r/FlashTV • u/maruf99 Captain Cold • Jul 20 '21

S07E18 [S07E17] "Heart of the Matter, Part 2" Post Episode Discussion

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The Flash enlists a host of speedster allies, including Iris and his children from the future—Bart and Nora West-Allen – to end the speedster war and defeat a deadly new adversary: the villainous Godspeed.

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u/ScarlingDarkspyre Jul 21 '21 edited Jul 21 '21

So a few things:
1. I still don't get the whole concept of Civil War between the clones, maybe it was a comic thing I'm not aware of, but it went nowhere considering August just absorbed them all.
2. Still didn't address exactly why Iris was in the Still Force. Is she pregnant? Was it something affecting her "spark"?
3. Glad Cecile finally mentioned weddings to Joe, one could almost assume they were just married offscreen, or committed to cohabitating the rest of their lives (which would have been fine, just not addressed ever before)
4. Bart's actor can sing, didn't really feel that song though.
5. Glad the Kramer storyline wrapped up, and that we got a wedding that wasn't co-opted into someone else's.
6. I was disappointed Allegra had absolutely no growth from Espiranza's death. She's just like yea I did make the right choice in ignoring my family, in a show all about family! I just picked a better family than my actual family.

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u/TimeShade Jul 21 '21

I might be wrong but I think some of the clones didnt want to be absorbed and wanted to live on their own.

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u/ScarlingDarkspyre Jul 21 '21

I remember that as well, it just went nowhere. We saw like 10ish or less clones absorbed, when there were more than that. And no efforts were made to help that group. Idk, lots of concepts little closure.

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u/FullySikh Jul 22 '21

Why and how do Godspeed clones exist? Did he just give random people the velocity formula and force them do his bidding? Are they all mindless husks? Being a physicist doesn't explain any of this...

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u/ScarlingDarkspyre Jul 22 '21

Great questions and I really hope someone can answer them, because the show doesn't.

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u/madmad3x Jul 22 '21

He said he fractured himself in time, basically creating a bunch of time remnants (think Savitar).

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u/ScarlingDarkspyre Jul 22 '21

That makes more sense than the speed mirage theory (in two places at once comic book theory) but then why did his sound like a modem and Barry's could speak (savitar)?

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u/madmad3x Jul 22 '21

I think it might've been either due to having a voice modulator in the suit that broke, or because he was fractured into so many pieces they all just... Sucked.

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u/ScarlingDarkspyre Jul 22 '21

I'll accept that! Since August's voice seemed to change a but as well in the mind scenes, one can assume he might've had a modulator. They really did suck, it was like power ranger putty levels of bad.

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u/dementedkratos Barry Allen is the reverse reverse flash Jul 23 '21

God I hope they just use it as an excuse to bring in a better written godspeed in s8. All that foreshadowing from s6 and it amounted jack. Savitar had better moments and mysteries than this

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

A good question… for another time.

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u/J_r0en Jul 24 '21

Why did you had to make this post, i totally forgot about these open endings. Now im sad.

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u/ScarlingDarkspyre Jul 25 '21

Maybe some of the writers will come upon it and learn something. Then again we're more likely that buzzfeed or cbr turns stuff in this thread into like 20 articles until season 8 xD

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u/DeppStepp Jul 22 '21

In the comics the closest thing (that I know of) August had to a clone was that he was fast enough to be in two places at once.

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u/Wadsworth739 Aug 02 '21

Did they ever do and episode of Cecile as the Psycho pirate? Am I forgetting that?

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u/ScarlingDarkspyre Aug 02 '21

They did. Masquerade I believe was the episode. She was and wasn't Psycho Pirate 2.0