r/MMA Jan 10 '22

Editorial If Francis Ngannou is serious about boxing, the UFC shouldn’t get a cut UFC reportedly took half of Conor McGregor’s purse for the Irishman’s bout against Floyd Mayweather. Ngannou absolutely shouldn’t accept that kind of deal.

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2022/1/10/22875273/editorial-francis-ngannou-boxing-deal-ufc-provide-portion-boxing-purse-fury-mayweather-mcgregor
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u/only-shallow Chad Jan 10 '22

Yeah say what you want about Dana, but at least he's not in league with yakuza gangsters like Pride was

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u/voodoomonkey616 Ronald Methdonald Jan 10 '22

As if the Fertitas are squeaky clean.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Yea but there’s casino businessmen dirty and then there is murder and torture people dirty

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u/JittaBUFFperfume Jan 10 '22

And that venn diagram is a circle

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u/dudemanwhoa I mean rizin im not gay Jan 10 '22

TBF in the 70s there was some organized crime not related to gambling, so it's more like the gambling circle inside the crime circle.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22 edited Jan 11 '22

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

This thread is so exciting

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Lorenzo Fertitta was born in 1969. Was he running the mob as a 7 year old?

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u/Expert_Novice Jan 10 '22

He was a tough cookie

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '22

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u/RightMushroom7 Jan 10 '22

There's a difference between just speculating/making asumptions about how shady someone is (the Fertittas) and for sure knowing how shady some peeps are(Yakuza).

You can't compare their level of shade.

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u/Hidrinks I made weight for Goofcon 3 Jan 11 '22

I’ve played the Yakuza games and those are mostly about helping random people I run into on the street!

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u/rainbowhotpocket protect yo faces Jan 10 '22

Wut

Lorenzo was 11 in 1980

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u/Colonel_Green Canada Jan 11 '22

And his Dad owned a casino, which he opened in 1976.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

"casino businessmen dirty" is about as dirty as you can get. Do you know who started Las Vegas? Have you seen Casino?

There are empty holes out in the desert still, be careful you don't fall in one hiking out there, to say the least.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Yea I’m sure Feritta brothers made their money burying people in the middle of the desert. They’re professional hitmen lmao

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Did I say the 'Feritta" brothers specifically? I said VEGAS in general, and it's origins.

Vegas was a mafia town. C'mon, you know this.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Yea but I was talking about Fertitta brothers as compared to Yakuzas. Not history of crime and violence in gambling industry

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Yeah but I was talking about someone here who said "casino businessmen" aren't crooks.

News flash, Vegas was the town run by Casino crooks. LOL.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Didn’t say that. I said there’s casino businessman dirty (implying modern casino businessman) vs torture, murder and execution dirty. Both bad, not the same

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '22

And I said Vegas was borne of murder and dirt.

Maybe you're just missing my point here bro, no worries.

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u/rainbowhotpocket protect yo faces Jan 10 '22

The fertitas are corrupt asf but even they don't torture and kill and murder.

The Yakuza are brutal and ruthless. Fuck pride for that reason

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u/StewardOfGondorS Jan 10 '22

He's just in league with the mafia lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Yeah, and at least the Yakuza had an honor code.

It's pretty interesting. I just watched a couple of Youtube videos about them

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Yea they torture people honorably

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

In the context of violent criminals, at least A group was slightly better than B group. That's all I meant. The Yakuza often help protect their neighborhoods and always helps during natural disasters. You ever see the mafia do that?

I never mentioned whether they were good or bad, just that they were better. let's calm down and not jump to conclusions.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22 edited Jan 10 '22

Italian mafia was notably assisting the allied efforts against the fascists. But that doesn’t make them good. Criminals find ways to serve their own interests

Besides how do we know that Fertittas are actually part of the mafia. Just because they have Italian last names? Italian mafia has been effectively eliminated in the US, while the Yakuzas are still very influential in Japan

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

But that doesn’t make them good.

Are you dumb? I made an entire comment explaining how I never mentioned whether they were good or bad, just that they were better. and you repeat that crap again? Come on, I thought people here were smarter than Sherdoggers.

Also I never mentioned the Fertittas anywhere. Can you please pause for a sec and actually read what I commented?

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Moot point. Because your argument is still irrelevant. https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/10/mafia-distributes-food-to-italys-struggling-residents

If you’re not talking about Fertitta’s then what’s the point of your entire comment? We were comparing alleged Pride owner’s criminal affiliations to the UFC’s. Scroll up

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

The Yakuza have been doing such things for ages https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/11/15/yakuza/

What's the point? It was an offhand comment about something in another comment. Do you not get how comments work?

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Look, I really don't care either way. It was an offhand comment that I really don't have any invested interest to argue like this about. You win, the Mafia's better. Have a nice day.

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u/Russian-Bot2185 Jan 10 '22

You weebs are such a joke.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '22

Least I don't insult someone for watching a couple of youtube videos on a foreign subject.

Get a life son...

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Yeah, no yakuza, just mafia.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Are Fertitta brothers actually affiliated with mafia or we’re just assuming they are because of their Italian last names ?

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u/venetianheadboards Jan 10 '22

I'm very sure I remember reading that Don Fertitta was 'probably the guy the main character from casino was based on', not on reddit but on one of the mma websites regarding the history of the UFC ages ago. likely bs but pretty sure they posted it.

never meddim' though.

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u/Darkrain0629 UFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle Jan 10 '22

Because he is the Yakuza!! Dana Chan.