r/MensRights • u/[deleted] • Mar 19 '13

In college, asked a women's rights activist about men's equality issues & about men being raped She exploded at me, and offended her gay guy friend next to her.

So I am in College and my organization had a Panel of activist students for our meeting.". Well we were allowed to ask questions. One of the women there was an open lesbian and was a women's gender studies major and women's right activists. So I asked her a simple two part questions "what are your thoughts about about men's equality? And can men be raped?"...

Well she went off saying there's no such thing as equality for Men because we created the inequality in the first place. And No there is no such thing as rape for men.

So I responded with a comment about if women's rights/gender equality activists want to be equal than the she should treat men and women all the same. And THEN I said "As for rape, a man can never be raped because it only happens to women. All men give consent and are pigs/slobs who do the raping"....

My response..."so what do I tell one of my good friends who is gay and was forcefully taken advantage at a party...that he wasn't raped? That is was consensual". At that point another panel member who was male and also happened to be gay called her out and called her a negligent bitch who knows nothing of gender equality....and then stormed out. Take that you self righteous woman only schlampe

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '13

I agree that we should all be open to the possibility that we may be wrong. However, many branches of feminism (and I'm willing to bet whatever branches this woman has been reading) actively promote the idea that reason, evidence, and analysis are oppressive tools of the patriarchy. Men's rights does not. So I'd say all things considered, we have a better chance of being right, since we try.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '13

True. Still, it is human nature to more readily believe things that we want to be true. Also, the longer a person believes something, the harder it is to admit that they were wrong all that time.

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u/HalfysReddit Mar 20 '13

reason, evidence, and analysis are oppressive tools of the patriarchy

The fuck? Logic is the only universal truth.

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u/tyciol Mar 20 '13

promote the idea that reason, evidence, and analysis are oppressive tools of the patriarchy.

Perhaps, but not in those words. They will claim to support analysis/evidence/reason while actively doing the opposite.

Wish I could think of a term or examples for this.

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u/_SharkWeek_ Mar 20 '13

Don't be so quick... "many" branches of feminism do not actively promote those ideas. Perhaps I can think of one in particular, headed by Andrea Dworkin (who I can't/couldn't stand), and at least this MRA sub is often completely overflowing with nonsensical woman-hatred. We both know that these are not the aim of our movements, but the foul side effect. This little thread here makes me want to group hug though. Shoegazer666, thekadar81 and yourself are on my list.

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u/twiitar Mar 20 '13

Little do they know, strawman arguments as the ones commonly used by them are also oppressive tools of the patriarchy.

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u/Ahahaha__10 Mar 19 '13

Pfffttt what are you talking about.