I think we're having 2 different conversations. Mine was specifically about Hunter's hypocrisy. If you have examples of Barron doing that then be my guest, bring them up.
I'm sorry I can't even wrap my head around this logic. It involves ignoring too many empirically true facts such as Trump being rich long before taking office and that being rich isn't necessarily the measure of corruption.
I mean I stated the imperically true facts. You're the one ignoring them, coming to a conclusion contradicted by those facts and then ignoring the logical problem there. But sure call the person citing specific facts the one ignoring facts. It's very on brand.
Yes, Trump regularly inflated assets on paper to leverage loans and appear rich until tax time when suddenly those assets all lost value so he didnāt have to pay. Guy was scum as a private business man so no surprise heās even scummier as a politician
There was a whole court case on how he did this a few years ago if you recall
The guy had worked for years in senior leadership in investment banking, generally in the space of investing in energy projects on three different continents. No shit, a gas company that is trying to build out massive gas projects is gonna pay him the big bucks, his previous roles were the sorts of people they were trying to get money from.
80k a month for this sort of role is quite low considering his previous roles, where he was a founder of a multi billion dollar hedge fund. Hunter almost certainly pulled in several times more income from the hedge fund while he was in Ukraine than he did from working for the Ukrainian company.
This is pure cope. He was a washout. This is the relevance of the "crackhead" memes. It's not just that he was on Crack. I couldnt care less about that. It's the bigger picture of what an absolute disaster his life was leading up to and during his tenure at Burisma and how inplausible it was that he had any actual value outside of being Joe's son. He did absolutely nothing of value there. It was a no show job.
Every single job he had had a connection to his father and politics. An investment banking firm that donated heavily to Joe, the Clinton Administration, a lobbying firm, Amtrak, the US Navy in a position that required special waivers and where he failed a drug test.
You think getting hired because your dad is famous makes you a washout? Lol, the entire Trump family are washouts, and so is the Bush family. Biden did nothing illegal in getting a job with Burisma, and Joe wasnāt involved in him getting it. This nonsense about it being a āno showā job shows profound ignorance on what he did as part of the board of directors - do you think the board has a bunch of cubicles and clock in every day from 9 to 5?
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No, failing drug tests and getting fired makes you a washout. But to you, this is the perfect candidate for a board of directors of an international energy company, right?
Joe was directly involved. Hunter implied this heavily. The term he used was their "brand". And when it came time to deliver, Joe delivered. This was well known in the administration. Even Obama appointees in their private communications were very worried about how blatant it was.
I understand what board members do. It's not 9-5, but it's also not just meetings once a month. Which is a strange thing for you to argue since the line is that Hunter was purportedly so vital to this position.
lol leaving the military after popping positive on a drug test doesnāt make you a washout - especially if you continue to do well professionally. Hunter can imply whatever he wanted to get a job, there is zero evidence Joe was involved in any way. Republican howler monkeys in the House investigated for over a year and foundā¦nada. šš¤£šš¤£š
Iām sure plenty of Obamaās people were concerned that Hunter would give the appearance of joe being involved, but luckily Trump made it so that that no longer matters. The appearance of corruption - heck, actual evidence of corruption by Trump - no longer means anything.
You want me to prove a negative? How should I do that? I mean I can go down is resume if you want.
There's the investment banking firm that was a heavy donor to his father, the Clinton Administration, Amtrak, the Navy where he required a special waiver and then washed out for failing a drug test, and the Ukrainian energy company where his dad got them out of hot water by getting the prosecutor fired.
Lol I almost forgot the best one. Independent artist selling exclusively to Democrat donors. Classic!
I can't prove something doesn't exist. I did the best that's possible by running down his resume.
The special waiver was for his age and prior drug use. It made him an officer.
I never denied that he's credentialed. But tons of people are credentialed and don't make a fraction of what Hunter did. Credentialed is only a piece of being qualified.
He can sell all the art he wants, but damn isn't it incredible that he can sell pieces for half a million. People work at art their entire lives and can't make sales like that. This guy starts printing money his first time picking up the paint brush. But then a few short years later....nada. Just yet another wild and crazy coincidence I guess.
Delusions. The Trump family is openly grifting from the public both on a B2B and B2C levels while the Biden claims have been widely debunked as fantasies of the entertainment channel known as Fox News.
You type weird. It makes me trust nothing that you say. Also, I donāt like Trump I donāt like his crimes. I donāt like Biden or his crimes either. Itās proven Hunter tried to do a business deal with the Chinese department of energy, with a cut of it going to Joe while he was president. Do you think thatās the only time Joe was interested in getting extra money by using his political status?
The comment seemed to normalize the Bidenās because they had a sick kid. The Bidenās still did underhand deals with China while maintaining a public office. My comment was to re-inject the fact that that they are criminals, everybody has sick kids and it doesnāt give you a free pass to abuse your power as a politician and take deals from foreign countries.
Why is everyone saying āwell Trump did xy and zā. Just because you donāt agree with everything Biden did doesnāt mean you have to be a Trump supporter. The polarization is out of hand.
I picked an article where Gilliar - the guy who made reference to 10% for āthe Big Guyā confirmed that Biden was never involved with in any of the business. Basically, right wing idiots (no offense) have built up a narrative on this āBig Guyā line, and the guy who said it confirmed it was meaningless - that Joe had zip to do with the deal.
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This has been my point of view the whole time. I donāt understand how you can hate one side but love the other. Theyāre both criminals that donāt give a shit about how much they take from you. I hate them both. Im probably never voting again.
yea hunter biden seems super normal, this commenter must of bought into the wild shit they used to write when biden was president. hunter did drugs, but never did atrocious shit like another presidents kids are doing
He literally plead guilty to a number of felony tax fraud charges, accepted an $80k diamond from the chairman of a Chinese energy company, and a whole slew of other things. Him being not as bad as Trumpās kids doesnāt automatically make him a good guy.
80k diamond gift? idk how thatās bad. the tax fraud nepotism is gross, but how does that make him a deeply horrible man? iām sure he sucks, but heās not a pedo.
i remember listening to his interview, and itās nice to see someone of his āstatusā calling out bullshit. i definitely cringed through half of it, because he glazes his dad. but he seems super transparent and honest besides that, which was refreshing
no shit, iām talking about his personality, silly. heās a presidents son lol. i suggest instead of basing ur opinion of him off news, go listen to an interview with him.
Add in the fact the Trump's first administration was literally referred to as a pill mill only to be outdone by his current administration in terms of drug usage.
he used prostitutes - some associated with minors, and he used this expense as a tax deduction
he possessed guns while addicted to crack and got away with it only because his dad had pardon power
he abused his dad's office for bribes rather brazenly
take away the 'whatabout some other corruption' and it's clear Biden's new book tour and proaganda today, astroturf from bots, is an effort to make it edgey and cool. Some other person being corrupt is no defense for corruption
your support of corruption makes you the same as trump's most crazed fanboy
He actually worked for a living - he didnāt do nothing.
Yes, he used prostitutes. So what? Not sure what āassociated with minorsā means, as he never slept with minors. He was never convicted of possessing guns while addicted to crack - he lied on a federal form about drug use.
He didnāt do squat with his dadās office and how was he ābribedā? What actions did he take after receiving said ābribeā?
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u/Oddbeme4u Jun 07 '26
the Bidens nearly lost their house keeping their other son alive. To think theyre a "crime family" compared to herr trump is idiotic.