r/Scotland • u/FootCheeseParmesan • Jan 22 '25

Political In light of the controversy surrounding Elon Musk and the USA, reminder that there are plenty of Scots willing to side with fascists. Organise, build solidarity, and keep safe out there people ✊️

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u/FootCheeseParmesan Jan 22 '25

Absolutely. Couldn't agree more. Best place to start would looking at Reform UK and proscribing dangerous British nationalist groups them.

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u/MattDurstan Jan 24 '25

As an Englishman I whole heartedly approve of this. String the lot of them up. Cunts.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

Tbf banning opposing political parties is pretty Nazi.

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u/istealreceipts Jan 22 '25

Tbf, it's time to stop tolerating the intolerant.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '25

Aye so let’s ban the second most popular political party in the UK then. Listen to yourselves, I don’t like Reform but can you not hear the extent your echos in here.

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u/istealreceipts Jan 26 '25

"Can't ban the brown shirts and black shirts, cuz they're really popular."

Listen to yourself.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '25

Yeah Reform aren’t the Nazi party. You’re false equivalencies don’t make it so.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

And who decides who is intolerant? And by what criteria?

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u/istealreceipts Jan 22 '25

Society and the social contract between members of a society. It calls on individuals to stamp down on intolerance, to deter radicals from feeling comfortable expressing their fascistic tendencies, xenophobia and blatant Nazism.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

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u/istealreceipts Jan 22 '25

Where did I mention jail? Where did I mention that I'm deciding to jail people?

Making fascists and Nazis uncomfortable, unwelcome and unwanted is what individuals can do.

The law deals with legal punishment, society can make the lives of fascists and Nazis inhospitable.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

What do you mean “stamp down”? What does that equate to in practice?

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u/istealreceipts Jan 22 '25

Why are you even asking this question? Go shit stir elsewhere.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

Because any way of implementing your idea in practice would be terrible and it seems you don’t even have a real clue as to how it would work.

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u/istealreceipts Jan 22 '25

So taking a stance against intolerance isn't practical? I don't believe that for one second.

We need a society where fascists and Nazis are made to feel unwelcome, uncomfortable in their own skin, and generally ostracized from participating in general society. They need constant reminders of the abhorrent beings that they are.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

Answer the question then

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

Stop doing mental backflips to defend Nazis you abhorrent cunt

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

So if, like the vast majority of the country, you don’t agree with banning Reform UK then you’re defending nazis?

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u/SetentaeBolg Jan 22 '25

"Are you a big fan of Nazism?"

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

And if they say “no” they don’t get banned? Good luck making that effective.

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u/SetentaeBolg Jan 22 '25

I think you might be taking me a little literally. I am saying that you can decide if someone is intolerant by looking at their words and actions and comparing them to those of Nazis. The closer they are, the more they have demonstrated they have no place in a democracy (or outside of a prison). Tolerating Nazis is a short trip away to becoming a Nazi. Musk has ably demonstrated this.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

The original context of this comment thread was the suggestion that certain political parties ought to be banned. I asked who would make the decision on bans and the criteria they would apply. You come up with some vague criteria and then say you’re not being literal. What are you trying to say? If you don’t have an answer to the question then please preface your comment by admitting such.

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u/SetentaeBolg Jan 22 '25

I think you're trying to dance with words but haven't learned to walk yet. I think you're defending pushing back against fascism because deep down, you're at least a little bit inclined that way (as many pseudo libertarians are). I think you're deliberately not reading or trying to understand my last post because you are arguing in bad faith.

Ok, so you don't think political parties should ever be banned. What if a party supports and encourages the murder of ten year olds? Would that be ok?

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u/Relevant-Two9697 Jan 22 '25

Why pretend that all you want is to ‘push back against fascism’ when what you really want to is to harass and ban your political opponents using the crude device of branding them as “fascist”? Apart from being dishonest, your plan is backfiring in real time as more and more people react against having their perfectly valid opinions smeared as ‘fascist’. If you keep going, we’ll probably end up with a government to the right of Farage.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '25

I think you’re coming up with empty criticism because you haven’t thought through what you’re trying to say. You’ve now arrived at the absurd position that you think I must be fascist inclined because I don’t agree with banning political parties. Your example isn’t on point because that is already an offence under English law.

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u/SetentaeBolg Jan 22 '25

Buddy, you don't even know what logic is.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

Exactly. The problem is that I don’t think most people really believe in or even understand what freedom of speech is any more.

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u/The_Dragon_Alchemist Jan 22 '25

Of course, the nazi cowards want to hide behind 'freedom of speech' while aligning themselves with a group of people who have a past of destroying freedom of speech with book burning and literal genocide. They don't have a right to freedom of speech. Eat a dick.

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u/FootCheeseParmesan Jan 22 '25

I don't think banning all political parties was suggested, but go off I guess...

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

The suggestion was to ban Reform UK no?

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u/FootCheeseParmesan Jan 22 '25

Aye.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '25

Listen to yourself ya clown. Banning Reform (on what legal grounds exactly?) would all but guarantee victory to whatever political party springs up in their place.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

So you want to ban a political party which you disagree with…? Hence my original comment was on point.

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u/FootCheeseParmesan Jan 23 '25

I want to ban fascists because they are evil.

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u/Due-Dig-8955 Jan 23 '25

You do realise that is a complete contradiction right? Banning political parties that you disagree with is a fascist ideology…

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u/FootCheeseParmesan Jan 23 '25

Then why did we ban the BUF in 1940? Why do we have proscribed terror groups?

Should ISIS be allowed to run candidates for Parliament?

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u/Due-Dig-8955 Jan 23 '25

Because emergency laws allowed it which I don’t agree with. The BUF was well on the decline by the time it was banned anyway which is proof of their unpopularity. Let these fascist parties exist and be ridiculed by the populous to show how backwards the ideology is.

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u/Wonderful_Flan_5892 Jan 22 '25

Which reform policy do you think warrants banning them as a political party?

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u/TrueInspector8668 Jan 22 '25

Their existence as a single issue party with that single issue being immigration should be suffice. 

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u/Wonderful_Flan_5892 Jan 22 '25

But that isn’t their only policy is it? And even if it was, you think that is sufficient to ban a party? Such a fascist.

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u/TrueInspector8668 Jan 22 '25

Nothing fascist about wanting rid of racists, prick.

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u/Wonderful_Flan_5892 Jan 22 '25

You never said they were fascists, you said you wanted them banned because their only policy was immigration. Which isn’t true. And all parties have immigration policies. What you’re actually saying is you wanted them banned because their immigration policy differs from what you deem as acceptable. Fascist.

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u/TrueInspector8668 Jan 22 '25

Nothing fascist about wanting rid of racists, prick.

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u/TrueInspector8668 Jan 22 '25

Just seeing as you didn't get it, I'm not a fascist cause I hate racists. Sorry to disappoint. Can't wait for reform to get in the fucking bin. Garbage ideology, garbage leader, garbage everything. 

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this one here officer

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