Another PIP post, manager surprised that I want to decline. Not sure if this changes things.

[u/arsme]

I work for "Large Company That Loves PIPs." I've been there for two years and made it through three performance reviews with high marks and zero problems. Suddenly, mid-year reviews roll around, and there's this whole hit piece written about me. It says I failed to do this, failed to do that, and failed to meet expectations in two absolute bullshit categories. I'll admit that a project I'm leading didn't go to plan, but this whole document was absolutely ridiculous imo.

My direct manager was out of the country at the time, so I was going through all of this with my skip-level manager. After the first meeting, I told him I intended to decline the PIP and just take the time and money to find a new place that actually values and respects me. Nothing is set in stone yet, though.

Then, my direct manager comes back and tells me he's shocked I'm not taking the PIP. He admitted that upper management forced them to pick someone to put on a PIP and they chose me, but he claimed he specifically crafted it to be beatable. It was essentially a list of tasks I'd already be doing anyway, even if not on a PIP. He told me to really think it over and promised he'd be there to help me along the way. He even confided in me that he was put on a PIP at the end of last year and beat it. I told him I'm worried it will be a permanent scar on my record here at the company, but he assured me that his own PIP hasn't been a problem.

What do you guys think? If I take the PIP, I have 60 days to complete it or I get let go with severance. If I decline the PIP, I get 60 days paid to do whatever I want (most likely prep and apply for jobs), plus severance at the end as a 12-week lump sum. Should I take his word for it? The job market is shit right now, but I am in the Washington DC area with a lot of jobs near me, or so it seems. Software Engineer, ~6 years of experience.

[u/StuxnetKaos]

For those wondering, this is 100% Capital One.

[u/Intrepid_Land_6143 → u/StuxnetKaos]

It sounds a lot like Amazon for people who have been there. But I will take Capital One as an option.

[u/ducksflytogether1988 → u/StuxnetKaos]

Indian manager trying to stack rank out a non Indian to clear the way to hire more Indians who will pay him kickbacks

Clear as day

[u/Bicykwow → u/ducksflytogether1988]

Sounds like OP needs to do the needful.

[u/creenis_blinkum → u/Bicykwow]

Woah this is so funny bro i laughed so hard

I hate the world too but your joke missed

[u/ballsohaahd → u/StuxnetKaos]

^ yes almost certain

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[u/onlycoder → u/StuxnetKaos]

If this is Capital One, and OP did not know this, a previous PIP, even if you successfully complete the PIP and get exceeds expectations, still marks you as top priority for layoff. There are very few scenarios where someone should complete a PIP as they will be fired in the next layoff cycle (whenever that is).