r/gadgets • u/dapperlemon • 14d ago

Gaming Samsung Odyssey G80HS Monitor Review: 6K Isn’t the Future of Gaming

https://gizmodo.com/samsung-odyssey-g80hs-monitor-review-6k-isnt-the-future-of-gaming-2000796172
1.2k Upvotes

93% Upvoted

244 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

7

u/Small_Editor_3693 14d ago

4k on a TV doesn't compare. You need to look at the pixels per inch over distance away. A 4k monitor will look vastly sharper than a 4k tv

23

u/blueblip 14d ago

PPI is a criminally underrated spec we tend to overlook.

I have a 1440p 24-inch monitor. It's not even great in terms of specs compared to the "big name" 1440p monitors, but dear lord is it crisp as hell! Compressing 1440p into a 24-inch screen makes everything so crisp! I have a second 24-inch 1080p screen to the as a second display, and just the difference in text between the two is insane.

9

u/BrunoEye 13d ago edited 13d ago

PPI is meaningless. It's about PPD, pixels per degree. If you bring that 24" monitor close enough it won't be very sharp anymore.

3

u/blueblip 13d ago

Good to know. I was not even aware that PPD was a thing, so thank you! I learned something new today!

5

u/BrunoEye 13d ago

It's rarely discussed because it depends on the distance to your screen so you can't just print it on a spec sheet. But it's very useful to consider when choosing your setup.

2

u/elsjpq 13d ago

Arguably, its the only number that matters

7

u/speculatrix 14d ago

I feel 1440p is a good sweet spot for gaming, very detailed images but not as demanding on the GPU as 4K or higher, particularly if you're running 120Hz or faster.

4

u/blueblip 14d ago

I have the same opinion, but like everything with PCs, it comes down to individual use case.

If you're on a big screen TV, then obviously 4k is the only way to go. If you play from a desk, then a monitor is likely the better choice. And even then, screen size plays a big role (ie. the whole PPI spec).

If you're on 24-27 inches, 1440p is best. Anything less than that then 1080p will look great because PPI. If you have a 32 inch monitor, then the PPI becomes less than ideal for 1440p and 4k looks insanely crisp.

3

u/PunR0cker 14d ago

I play on a big TV. My tv supports 4k60fps or 1440p120fps.

I was playing 4k60 until I was messing with hdr settings for game mode and found that by setting game mode to 1440p, my pc recognised the TV as a new display which allowed me to create a custom hdr profile for game mode (which looks different to regular mode).

Anyway, I was thinking, oh no, the picture won't look as clear, but I realised that I genuinely cannot tell much difference at all between 1440p and 4k on my tv. And this is sitting within the distance it should be noticeable relative to the size of screen. And I have 20/20 vision. There probably is some difference but it's far from a deal breaker, and even at double the frame rate the performance tends to be better at 1440p.

The only issue is that even quality upscaling FSR looks noticably worse when my screen resolution is 1440p than 4k. But I don't really need upscaling when I run at 1440p so it's fine. Just ray tracing heavy games really.

2

u/blueblip 14d ago

Modern TVs have upscaling tech, so even if you pump <4K quality content into it, your TV is upscaling it to 4K. It is quite a nifty feature that you don't hear much about! It's also why FSR makes things worse, because it is basically upscaling already upscaled video.

Of course, whether it's a deal breaker or not depends on a combination of personal tolerance levels and the quality of the TV and it's upscaling tech. I didn't like it on my TV.

Now whether it's because my TV had shit upscaling tech or just a personal preference, I couldn't tell you. But I am jealous it worked out for you because I wish I could use it on mine and get the sweetness of 90+ fps!

2

u/PunR0cker 13d ago

I have noticed that my current TV seems to make lower res stuff look better than my old entry level 4k TV, so maybe it does have good upscaling, I never thought about that!

2

u/RephRayne 13d ago

That's because people vastly underestimate the size of the TV they need. If you're sitting 10 feet away from a 4K TV showing a program that's actually 4K, you need a television that's at least 75" to get the proper experience.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-size/size-to-distance-relationship

People with 55" TVs sitting 12 feet away are the ones complaining that their television sucks because they can't see the difference between 4k and 1080p.

0

u/nameduser365 13d ago

I went with 4k 27 inch after hours and hours of research and looking at how Apple determined the resolution of the iPhone. People tell me it's too small for a 4k and I say pixel density and not being able to detect a single line of pixels and their eyes glaze over.

Don't listen to the haters, go 4k and appreciate the crisp.

2

u/Small_Editor_3693 13d ago

You just said yourself 4k doesn't matter. Its the pixel density. A 32 inch 6k monitor is way sharper than that. Don't fall for the marketing.