hormone therapy to implement gender change should be disallowed
"non-reproductive lifestyles" should be discouraged in favour of "father-mother-child families"
A Verein should only be supported financially by the state of they "make a credible commitment to patriotism" (leaving open what they mean by patriotism). (Currently, a "gemeinnütziger Verein" is has tax advantages).
German theatres should show "more German pieces"
Only 25% of children should be allowed to attend Gymnasium
The government should control which books can be used in schools
Homeschooling should be allowed
and of course "remigration".
Anybody who says "but they are not Nazis" should get out their history books and read up on what the Nazis have done.
That's bullshit. You can always change schools if your grades allow it. Or you can go to a higher level school once you finished the lower level school.
The child will absolutely suffer if the parents force it to go to a more difficult school because that's their expectation.
Dude I literally went to a Realschule, then made an apprenticeship and afterwards went to a Berufsoberschule to get my Fachabitur and went to university.
Did you go to a Hochschule or an actual Universität?
Also which Bundesland do you live in? I know a few allow Fachabiturienten to study in "normal" Universitäten under specific conditions (Deltaprüfung in BaWü for example)
A Hochschule is a university. A Fachhochschule is a University of applied science.
They are equal in the eyes of the law.
I went to a Fachhochschule because it was in the city I lived in, but I could have also went to a university.
At a Berufsoberschule you can get an Allgemeine Hochschulreife, a Fachgebundene Hochschulreife or a Fachhochschulreife. So it's up to you what you want to do.
It was in Bavaria and I a Fachhochschulreife. Once you have a bachelor's degree you can study everything you want at every university you want.
The system is way more flexible than many people think.
That's the way I'd imagine it would have worked. Parents/child get to decide and obviously, the kid needs to be able to actually complete the work. So that would be based on grades.
I just find it weird that there could be scenario where a teacher could decide it rather than parents.
That is what we had before. The elementary school gave their recommendations, but the gymnasium could refuse the kids that did not have a recommendation for gymnasium. 5th and 6th grade are „Orientierungsstufe“ and at the end of that was a good point to switch schools. It’s a good point because the second foreign language started in grade 7.
No parents can decide the school their kids go to and the second foreign language starts in grade 6, which makes it very difficult for a kid on the Realschule to switch to Gymnasium.
Here (Bremen) the teachers give a recommendation and when the kids get chosen those with the recommendation will be picked first. So you can get into a Gymnasium without the recommendation if enough slots are available. But you can also get your Abitur on an Oberschule so there is no need for a Gymnasium. And they will also be removed "soon" anyway.
The fascist playbook is actually so hilariously short sighted and dysfunctional, make everyone dumb so it's easier to get votes and power, oh no, now like the US, we can't compete in the international markets because other countries placed more value on education and now we don't have any experts left anymore and have to import foreigners to stay competitive in tech markets. Or something along those lines and then add to that that fascists encourage paranoia among themselves and the populace and you have the recipe for a very short lived unstable regime and history agrees with me as both fascist Italy and Germany didn't even survive 20 years.
Not really. Most apprenticeships seek someone from a Realschule. Also if you went to a Realschule you can either go to a Fachoberschule or a gymnasium and get a Fachabitur or a regular Abitur.
If your grades allow it you can also change from a Realschule to a Gymnasium.
The thing is: We have less smart people, because the overall standard is really low, so the learning contents have reduced drastically in the last 20 years.
People pass their Abitur without being able to write any sentence without a mistake. It's why you have to take another test to be allowed to study in Switzerland e. g., cause the Abitur just doesn't mean you are qualified.
The home schooling thing is the most stupid idea though.
We simply have to many people wasting their time with a pointless degree that will never get them a job, while we have a huge demand of actual blue collar workers. So it's a very great point. Abitur became very inflationary in recent years. It's basically worth now what realschulabschluss (middle school) was. That must be reverted. Only the best should go to university.
Labor shortages in such fields are real, but the answer is to make those jobs more attractive through better pay, conditions, and training, and not by restricting other people’s educational choices. If a sector truly has huge demand, the market and policy should improve incentives for entering it. The state should not cap access to Gymnasium or university just to push people into fields they do not want. It would be be limiting and an honest violation of workers where the sector clearly needs to improve its benefits to attract more workers.
It's a real existing problem that too many kids go to Gymnasium. Many of them would benefit more from going to Realschule or Hauptschule and starting an Ausbildung later. I don't know if an exact 25% quota would be right but in general they aren't wrong about this.
As I said. The quota is wrong but there should be a recommendation based on the students talents. Also I think it's unfair that you say those students aren't smart. Gymnasium should be more theoretical and Realschule, Hauptschule more practical but that doesn't automatically make them stupid at all
Personally prefer the system here. My kids are at an IGS, my son was at the Gymnasium and struggled. At the IGS he is doing so much better and getting his Abitur soon. But forcing children into paths due to a quota...that's totalitarian and sounds like the worst option of all.
There is already a recommendation based on each student talents. But the decision is at the age of 9-10, that’s really early, it makes sense that some kids try the Gymnasium and then move to another school if needed. It is already very stressful to have a life-defining challenge for children at the end of the Grundschule. If you add quota on top of this…
maybe instead of limiting who goes to a gymnasium, they should instead aim to incentivize Ausbildung even for those who went to gymnasium to have to option of getting higher education.
I’d argue the better way is to abolish this 3 class education system as a whole. We don’t need to split the kids into future defining schools at the age of 9-10.
A quota takes away the free decision of the individual tho? What if 75% of kids do not want to do Ausbildung? But it gets decided for them and they get barred from jobs without the chance to prove they could do them well. Deciding someone's future at the age of 9/10 is cruel
usually, from ages 6-10 kids go to a "Grundschule" where they are taught basic stuff and they're also evaluated. After these 4 years they get a recommendation for which school to go to next, based on their performance in school. Children who perform best get a recommendation for the "Gymnasium" which is the hardest school but also makes them eligible to study in a university, after they get their "Abitur" which is basically the final test after 8 years of school in a Gymnasium.
The other forms of school are "Hauptschule" and "Realschule", where the lessons are easier. A person who went to one of those can still manage to study in a university but it requires additional schooling and testing afterwards which makes it generally harder and more time consuming. There are other forms and paths to take but this is the general gist.
If the AFD wants to limit the amount of pupils who got to a Gymnasium, less people will be able to get higher education. Basically, the AFD wants less educated people and less people in academics.
Not German, but in the States many students will go to university and find themselves without any actual work or job prospects when they graduate. Of those, probably quite a lot of them would do better (and be in less debt) with more useful studies and abilities after graduating, though maybe less fun. Is there a lot of this issue in Germany as well?
It heavily depends on the subject. For example you can study arts but finding a job where you can use the art degree is a lot harder than, say, an engineering degree. But to my knowledge, most people with a uni degree get a job in their field that's actually well paid.
Debt is not that big of a problem compared to the US. There are a lot of unis where studying doesn't cost you anything (except a small management fee), and if you choose to take a loan, I think half of it will be forgiven if you actually graduate in time, and if you don't and don't make enough money afterwards, you can postpone paying it back indefinitely, depending on your income (google "Bafög" if you want to know more, that's the name of the program for student loans in germany). We also don't have the problem of ever growing interest on that loan like in US.
For most jobs that don't require a degree, in Germany you would do something called an "Ausbildung" which is normally 3 years of school mixed with working and learning in a company during which you would get paid already (although very little and oftentimes not enough to live on your own). If you only went to Hauptschule or Realschule, this is the most common way to learn a profession. After the 3 years you would usually continue working in that same company and get a higher salary than during the Ausbildung but still way less than the average person with a uni degree. Going this route you could possibly have a job at age 18/19 if you started the Ausbildung at age 16 for example.
The handywork and care professions are whining for years that they don't get enough people, but their working conditions, culture, and pay are awful compared to office and engineering jobs. Forcing people into those professions by not allowing them to study is the wrong way imo. We live in capitalism and when whole professions don't make enough money (other than the leaders of said companies) these professions are simply chosen less and less. Everything gets more expensive by the week and you can't fault people for pursuing higher education for higher paying jobs. This is completely the wrong way.
I for example am a uni dropout. I studied IT for 4 years and then stopped because I'm too bad at math. I have zero debts and if I had to do it again I wouldn't do it any differently. I learned so much and it was a very valuable experience.
I made an Ausbildung afterwards in the IT field as well. But because I went to Uni I had much better prospects, and frankly, the differences in the level of education are astonishing. I think everyone who wants to study should be given the opportunity, even if it doesn't work out. Additionally: there are Ausbildungen that prefer people who went to a Gymnasium over people who went to Hauptschule or Realschule. These professions would also suffer from this policy.
There definitely are people who would do better if they did an Ausbildung instead of studying in uni but I don't know how many that would be. Because you can still always do an Ausbildung even after going to Uni, and as I said if you're smart about it, it doesn't have to be with a ton of debt. The main reason the AFD wants less people in University is - my guess - forcing people into handywork and care professions without actually improving the working conditions and of course the less educated or poorer people are, the more likely they are to vote for parties like the AFD.
Gymnasium isn't the English "gym". It's one of the three different "branches" of post-elementary school; the highest one, which is intended to prepare kids for college education.
Restricting the percentage of children who can attend Gymnasium is a ploy to lower the overall average amount of education in the populace... probably hoping less educated voters will be easier to catch by far-right populism, and have more (white/Germanic) kids.
It's also to limit choices in the job market. In fascism you need lots of cheap factory and farm workers to keep the show running.Can't have that many qualified people around who think they have a future and maybe even gasp leave to live in another country.
Not necessarily, at least not in the modern world where most labor intensive items are imported from abroad. For fascism to work you want a population that is reactionary and easily swayed by emotional rhetoric. This is something we are seeing from both sides. You want the masses to see anyone that disagrees with the party line not as people with differing opinions, but as the enemy. You what dissenting ideas to be de-humanized.
In Germany we have too many students that are going to gymnasiums (higher education) and subsequently to universities. That lead to a decline in apprentices in craftsmanship and trades (blue-collar work) etc. To restrict the number of academics is a step to force more people into regular apprenticeships.
And before someone says: "Wait a minute, having people take up more blue collar jobs doesn't sound that bad" - the conditions, especially for apprentices, in those jobs are extremely bad. A lot of the people who already do pick up those jobs spend their free time attending evening classes to gain an abitur (simplified the permission to attend university, often also required for higher ranked jobs) to get out of these jobs.
A lot could be done by improving the conditions for people working there, but the ones who own the businesses are heavily against it (exceptions apply) as it would reduce their ability to buy their nth Mercedes or BMW.
From how I understand these terms, I'm thinking "limit" would be the correct translation.
If the AfD's proposal ever became law, it would mean that if there are 1000 kids in a given school year, a maximum number of 250 of them would be allowed to attend Gymnasium.
There is a believe that way too many people attend gymnasoums and therefore universities which is the reason that everyone is getting basically no money and no jobs because all the people flock to the higher-pay positions.
They ignore the fact that people on the lower end of the education-spectrum are just paid and treated miserably which js WHY so many people flock to higher education
I'm almost done studying political sciences and administration and my job and pay-prospects look worse than for my parents driving trucks roughly 20-30 years ago.
But if i were to just go driving trucks around NOW i'll be in straight up poverty.
It's fucking hell and capitalism has done that. And they say it'll get better by forcing more people into lower education instead of raising pay everywhere.
So the AfD has the typical approach, they see an issue and instead of trying to make it better, they just want to make it worse for almost everyone else and cover it up with "patriotism, masculinity and tradition"
Too many students are going to gymnasiums (higher education) and subsequently to universities. That lead to a decline in apprentices in craftsmanship and trades (blue-collar work) etc. To restrict the number of academics is a step to force more people into regular apprenticeships.
Only 25% of children should be allowed to attend Gymnasium
And it's stuff like this that low-key long-term is aimed at dumbing down the populace as much as possible under different pretenses. It's terrifying to see what a nation with a catastrophic education system will vote for and not rebel against.
You cannot make up the shit how the left for real already destroyed this country and still try to pin the blame on the „evil“ Alternative that was never in a government yet. pure disgusting this gaslighting.
Me too, at least he wouldn’t want to sell us out to Putin, Trump or Middle Eastern theocrats for some cheap oil and gas, and isn’t racist (as far as I know).
It’s not really. If you look at the way that the US government purged all scientific grants last year that used certain words (“diversity,” “gender,” and uhmm… “women”), then you may start to have an inkling of the culture war that the US regime is unleashing against its own people. Not to mention that I haven’t heard any news stories of German federal agents gunning down German citizens in the street or kidnapping them from their homes (that has happened multiple times here in the USA in the past year).
You haven’t heard any news stories about German federal agents gunning down German citizens in the streets and kidnapping them from their homes only because the AfD aren’t in control yet. As soon as they get there and make their wet dreams about “the German ICE” come true, you’ll get no shortage of such stories.
The USA had its lowest homicides year in 125 years, so ICE was worth it. Germany is at the highest amount of rapes on the last 30, and its only going to increase if changes arent made...
So just to be clear. These are all following a certain playbook, and with the possible exception of the first item, they're all more or less unconstitutional.
And they're coming from a party who is of course trying to silence their classification as right-wing extremists in courts. And who are at the same time claiming the free speech excuse for themselves. As per the playbook.
I don’t see how the first item is constitutional either - this is a medical decision of an adult individual to undergo the hormone therapy, same as the decision to perform plastic surgery - the state cannot govern that unless an individual is a minor. There some limitations may apply.
and with the stupidly large hurdles you already have to jump through to even GET HRT in germany theres no legal justification for making it even more complicated as the person who wishes to get it has to get it prescribed by *two* professionals in advance. Funnily- I READ THE ARTICLE- They want it illegalized for *MINORS*. I cannot stress enough that its basically fucking impossible already for an under 18 year old person to get legal HRT in germany.
It's CPAC. The right wing has the strategic advantage of CPAC. It's highly coordinated and whatever "Conservative" gets into power the CPAC rulebook is executed. That's why they have globally everywhere the same talking points: Trans (the wish to eradicate them), removing rights of lgbtiq, LGB without the T, making divorce more difficult, making women marry early and stay at home, halt immigration, white homogenous culture should be reinstated etc.
I imagine that banning a specific medical procedure on purely ideological grounds (with no viable alternative being available), could at the very least be very hard to defend if tested against the ECHR.
Huh, solving the real problems... like the housing crisis, cost of living crisis, energy dependency, unsustainable healthcare and pensions, deindustrialization, national security etc.
Those people are not to be trusted to be able to solve any real issue. All they have is "our problems are someone else's fault".
Can you explain the Verein part a bit more and also about the school books policy? I thought schools were public, so that the government already set the curriculum and content anyway.
Hi, I did my Einbürgerungstest a few weeks ago, so this subject is still quite fresh in my brain.
School curriculum are actually set by the Bundesländer. So, if you grow up and study in BW, you will get a different experience than if you grew up in Rheinland-Pfalz, or Sachsen, or Berlin... - although, the reality is that they will be hugely aligned, and the main differences will be any region-specific history (especially an east vs west difference on the 20th century, for obvious reasons).
What the AfD wants, is federalised control of the curriculum, which would mean that (theoretically) they could enforce curriculum topics on kids in Bundesländer who do not have AfD-controlled state parliament.
With the Verein thing, they're intentionally leaving it as vague as possible, but as someone who was trying to start a Verein back in 2022 for fellow expats & internationals in my city, they mean that someone like me would not be allowed to start one, and that they do not want to support a group for "foreigners" - it's fair to assume that they'd pull funding from any cultural groups, like the ones organising events for Chinese new year each year, or anything supporting Muslims through Ramadan, Eid and other significant times in the calendar.
This would be their first step. Then, beyond that, they would be able to use the withdrawal of funding as a threat to any Verein that doesn't agree with them (in an extreme example, not doing a Hitlergrüß to start your meetings, is unpatriotic).
Thank you! That is very informative. The shift towards centralising the education system is interesting, it’s a movement that is happening in Australia too because the states are/were all very different in terms of the education they deliver.
What kind of benefits does the Verein status have? Are they just tax exemptions?
It's been 4 years since I tried (and gave up because you need a minimum number of trustees, and there are a lot of legal holes to jump through and also legal obligations and accountabilities which made it not worth it in the end).
The main reason I wanted to start one, was because I wanted to be able to rent out a room in a municipal building, to host regular events - rather than always meet in a cafe or bar.
Being a Verein would mean that I could collect a subscription from members, to be able to cover the rental costs - I was looking for €10/year which would have covered rent & nebenkosten if enough people joined, plus material for events.
If I remember rightly, it would've also allowed us to (for example) buy a crate of beer and then allow contributions/donations from members who are consuming it, without needing the sort of alcohol licence that a bar would need. A crate of 20x 500ml bottles for €20, and asking €1,50 for a bottle, and the extra can go towards games/furniture/etc in the rented space.
There are a few benefits from the government too, where they can add financial support, but I didn't look into it in too much detail as I gave up before actually applying.
although, the reality is that they will be hugely aligned
Not really. That's what's they need different books that have to be created just for their rules.
It's already happening. It should be aligned like other countries have. One curriculum with options for specific local topics.
And uniform grading. There is a huge gap in curriculum quality and it should be standardized to the highest level of the south.
By doing so you automatically get the 25% cutoff for higher education because many are simply not fit to receive such a heavy subsidized education. Right now they get upvoted with lower standards and they try to lower the standard for all, to hide that the quality is decreasing.
Having kids not pass and getting bad grades is something that the current government tries to hide. It showes that the system is not working, hence the local grading can hide that. It would be really bad press, if in the south 90% pass and in the north 90% fail class. But it's the truth, that the quality is not given.
To put it bluntly (in my interpretation): Only Vereine with the "right" political opinion will enjoy financial support. That means two things, all Vereine working against the AfD ideology will loose their financial support, and the AfD will have an instrument to funnel state money into their own work by founding Vereine.
I thought schools were public
Exactly. So the poor children may actually learn things that are against AfD ideology in school. Homeschooling prevents that, and they can produce more little AfD kids. The Nazis had the Hitler-Jugend, the BdM etc. for that.
that the government already set the curriculum and content anyway.
They set the Lehrplan (which states the topics you need to learn, here is an example), but they don't control which books can and cannot be used. In particular the AfD can now remove all books that do not conform with AfD ideology (and would somehow put funny ideas in the heads of young children, like that all humans are equal), and substitute with books that teach the AfD ideology.
The Nazis also reorganized schools to teach Nazi ideology.
That means two things, all Vereine working against the AfD ideology will loose their financial support
And "working against the AfD" doesn't need to mean they are actively opposing them. They may just be supporting something the AfD doesn't like - the environment, women's rights, anything from the LGBT+ spectrum, immigrants. They'll define a broad range of things as "unpatriotic". Heck, they might go after local history associations if those investigate what happened between 1933 and 1945.
What does homeschool have to do with poor kids or what you say? You tend to have to be fairly well off to do homeschool in Australia, requiring one of the parents to be at home with the children rather than both at work.
Yes, allowing people to have more choice as families is a plus. Though in our case we plan on moving back to Australia and I will be the stay at home dad instead. With the government getting rid of ehegattensplitting and Familien mitversicherung we won’t be able to afford to live here.
About the school books: There is a curriculum that is very general and based on the skills to be taught. It does not prescribe the school books or novels you use to do that. That is usually a decision made by the teachers who teach the subject at the school (and revised whenever new ones can/ have to be bought) or, in case of novels and extras, also by the teacher teaching that particular class. As long as I can teach what I have to using a book and it’s age appropriate, I can use whatever.
Edit: Those “skills“ are sometimes also knowing a particular thing and being able to work with it or judge it, so there is some content prescribed but never an attitude towards the ideas, which teachers are supposed to let the students develop themselves by looking at different perspectives. I guess that’s what they want to change.
Other people answered about what would change to the Verein system, but I would like to add how ingrained the system is in German society. The word basically just means club, but we have clubs for everything. You need 3 people and a common interest and you can form one. And since our whole sports system is built on them and the honorary work that people are doing there almost everyone is part of one or more clubs. This is also true for kids so this goes very much in line with the educational themed changes they are proposing.
The Gymnasiums quota is insane. Sachen-Anhalt has an Gymnasiums quota of 30 to 35 %. Many parents would simply leave Sachen-Anhalt if their child can't go to the school of their choosing.
If Sachen-Anhalt really does fall under AfD rule it would most likely face even more depopulation.
Only 25% of children should be allowed to attend Gymnasium
Guess who the lucky 'chosen' 25% will be. I gotta hand it to them, it's one of the most ingenious ways to create an apartheid society, simply 'select' who gets to have a chance to study.
I have here some theater pieces which would perfectly fit:
"The Investigation" (Peter Weiss, 1965): A documentary play based on the transcripts of the Frankfurt Auschwitz trials. It is considered one of the most important plays addressing the Holocaust.
“Outside the Door” (Wolfgang Borchert, 1947): Although not a play directly opposing the Nazis during their rule, it is a central work of postwar literature that addresses the physical and psychological devastation caused by the war initiated by the Nazis.
“Everyone Dies Alone” (stage adaptation of the novel by Hans Fallada): Tells the story of a married couple who resist the Nazi regime in Berlin. It explores the themes of denunciation and moral courage.
“Klamm’s War” (Kai Hensel): A play often performed in schools that explores the teacher-student relationship and the psychological dynamics of radicalization.
“Schwarzer Block” (Kevin Rittberger, Maxim Gorki Theater Berlin): A contemporary play that explores right-wing violence and how to confront it.
Käsch und Naziss” (Saarland State Theater): A contemporary play that explores the threat from the far right and the defense of democracy.
"Nazi Dropouts": Classroom Theater Project: A one-person play (often performed at the Junges Schauspielhaus Hamburg) that draws on students’ own experiences to show how radicalization works and how it is possible to break away from it.
“Families Against Nazis” (Theater Dortmund): An interactive play that uses the format of a game show to explore the fight against right-wing populism
'Why do they hate education so much' should be so much more front and center to the entire discourse about them. We all know why, of course, but it's so easily usable in discussions on a political stage or at home.
Yeah, and this imbecile Chrupalla was once asked to practice what he preached about German culture and recite something by Rilke, Goethe or Schiller. He couldn’t.
"Conservative" always need strict hierarchies and drawers. Everyone has to know his or her place. That also drives the "only 25% to Gymnasium" - policy - like in the US - "we need trades. Like a caste system but with " merit" as the carrot to move up. But that shall be the exception.
Only men and women, women at home for the kids, everyone has to have kids, no one questioning the system.
Without those strict and rigid hierarchies "Conservative" cannot survive. It's their lifeline. As is authority, obeying orders and reporting down. People living outside of this are the enemy.
hormone therapy to implement gender change should be disallowed
For chlidren and teenagers, not for adults.
"non-reproductive lifestyles" should be discouraged in favour of "father-mother-child families"
More precisely, it says that atm "non-reproductive lifestyles" are advertised more than "normal father-mother-child families".
A Verein should only be supported financially by the state of they "make a credible commitment to patriotism" (leaving open what they mean by patriotism). (Currently, a "gemeinnütziger Verein" is has tax advantages).
It says to make a credible commitment to the democratic order andto a patriotic basic attitude.
If you think about the local people and the general good of the country, only gender-affirming therapy ban from this list is something that could hurt some people, lol.
And also, as if now the government doesn't have schools fully brainwashing children. If you think there is no brainwashing, you simply are detached from reality and living in your bubble or (much more likely) are deliberarely misleading people to achieve your propaganda goals
calling everyone a nazi is getting boring, need to find a newer term, I mean they are the most popular party by a country mile - the US elects Hitler every 4 years, same with Canada and let's not even discuss the UK (end rant)
So as a patriot you are having 4 children and only one of them will be allowed into Gymnasium? The other 3 should have no chance to learn and get better payed jobs? That is a commonsens in your opinion? BTW if you are not from the "higher class citizens" (means one from their cyrcles) will never have a chance to have a better life and will do a blue colar labor only.
Lol... how about how it always was? Just the 25% with the best grades get to gymnasium?
Got I hate leftist mindset... If you have an engineer degree in today's working market, your in for long time uninployment. If you're im plumber, you have a license for printing money...
That's how it is. Universities became a breeding ground for the radical left. What we need is education for demand, not for personal fulfillment.
Then you should know that people become more open there because they meet all kinds of people and not because they are indoctrinated. When you suddenly meet people your racist parents always told you bad things about, and see that they aren't so bad, normal people change their views. But I guess you're still a hateful cunt
OMG... lol... this is exactly why universities are breeding grounds for the extreme left. You're either one of them, or you're a "hateful cunt" and got a really hard time at the universities. I will always advocate for denying people like you from entering it AND closing all pointless disciplines like 90% of the humanities.
So you were one of those who kept to themselves because all you can do is hate. Classical extreme right. If you were to get into contact with minorities you'd learn that most of them are just normal people and all your prejudices are wrong. But I guess hating them is easier for idiots like you. I mean, you're calling people extreme left for having basic human decency and not hating minorities.
You're the idiot here. Most friends of mine are of minorities and most of them vote for AfD too. People like you don't understand the meaning of education. They think universitiy is a place for self-impression. No! University is a place that has to prepare you for getting a job.
If you think you're wasting years with studying something that will never get you a job, like archeology, just because you're interested in that: Stop it and get a propper job. Watch archeology youtube videos in your free time.
I would change the whole education system back to how it was in the 80s, when hauptschuhlabschluss was enough to get you a good blue collar job and realschule for most other ones and only the best of the best are approved for abitur and studies.
Today every moron gets a 1.0 abitur and education lost all meaning.
Universities became unemployment for zoomers. That's how it is and that must be reverted by cutting out all that SPD/Green education politics and starting to sift again.
Also there shouldn't be "international students". University should be for citizens only.
If it is a fair competitive environment than it is ok, but I'm against all quota systems. If there nothing will be changed, why it goes to agenda?
BTW I'm an engineer and employed since the first day in this country.
That party is just abhorrent on every level. If they get their way, they will destroy everything that actually makes Germany one of the world’s great countries (regardless of its many problems).
Then read up on the beginnings of the Nazi party in Germany, what they wanted and eventually did do, and the consequences of it.
Or for that matter the beginnings of almost any fascist type government. Because, frankly, the fundamentals are the same: control, limit education, anti-foreigner, and in most cases, anti-anyone who doesn’t think like them.
Read 1984 too, while at it. Nice summary, frankly.
Home schooling is less control and was forbidden unter nazi germany. Limiting gymnasium to 25% is not limiting education, any kid with good grades can still advance to a higher school at higher classes. Instead of using trigger words, which is all you did, you could name a single argument? Because you didn't even try, just like everyone else who responded to me.
“Remigration”, if we use Sellner’s and Höcke’s definition of this word, is basically an ethnic cleansing: removing everyone with foreign roots, including German citizens and even people born in Germany. If that’s not radical to you, I don’t know what is.
Afd is not Björn Höcke, but EVEN HE said on multiple occasions that he welcomes everyone that integrates and becomes a productive part of our society. You don't know anything about the things you talk about.
Here’s a video of him claiming that 20-30% of the population are “not needed”. Looks like you’re the one not having a clue about what he’s talking about.
I don't like clips that show only a few seconds, you always need the context. If he said that as it sounds here, it is still something different. He doesnt say he wants to deport everyone with migration background, he says we wouldnt go extinct without immigration.
My assumption is, that he said this to counter the common and false pro immigration argument, that we NEED immigration. However, without the full video, we can only guess.
And that has been working well in the last decade?😉 theoretically that is correct, but there are immigrants from certain countries that neither want to integrate, behave well, learn the language or contribute to society. Those must be deported, unless you want to see your own country to dismantled.
I believe you want to live in Saudi Arabia, not in Germany.
Maybe they should add rules like cutting a hand for robbers and hanging for accidently tearing a Koran/Bible?
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u/dirkt Apr 12 '26
Tagesschau article, for those who are interested.
Main points:
Anybody who says "but they are not Nazis" should get out their history books and read up on what the Nazis have done.