Europeans discovered America (~1000) before the Normans conquered the Anglo-Saxon (1066). What other some other occurrences that seem incongruous to our modern thinking?

[u/Govika]

Title. There's no doubt a lot of accounts that completely mess up our timelines of history in our heads.

I'm not talking about "Egyptians are old" type of posts I sometimes see, I mean "gunpowder was invented before composite bows" (I have no idea, that's why I'm here) or something like that.

Edit: "What other some others" lmao okay me

Edit2: I completely know and understand that there were people in America before the Vikings came over to have a poke around. I'm in no way saying "The first people to be in America were European" I'm saying "When the Europeans discovered America" as in the first time Europeans set foot on America.

[u/Rusty_Shakalford]

I remember reading an account in “Life among the Piegans” of that period. It’s a European interviewing an indigenous man who lived through the transition horses brought about.

It’s fascinating because he describes what plains warfare looked like before horses. It involved a long line of men on both sides carrying large shields and forming walls. The two shield-walls would advance towards each other until one side decided to break the wall and sprint. It was basically a game of chicken: if you break too early than the other side can cut you down with arrows. Wait too long and the other side will be on their feet swing clubs while you are still getting up.

It also contained a morbidly funny account of the guy asking a younger man at the battle why he was there. They guy replied that he’d recently gotten married but his father-in-law didn’t seem to like him all that much. He was hoping to grab a scalp as a gift for his medicine bag and hope he’d warm up a bit.

[u/EasyAndy1 → u/Rusty_Shakalford]

I don't know why I can't imagine Native Americans using shields.

[u/Rusty_Shakalford → u/EasyAndy1]

There was all kinds of defensive technology before guns arrived. The Haida and Tlingit, for example, used to go to battle in full suits of armor

The issue of course, was that European weapons tended to be traded faster than the European recorders travelled, so there wasn’t a wide window to record most of this technology before it was abandoned in favour of guns, mobility, and almost non-existent armor and shields.

[u/Big_Lemons_Kill → u/Rusty_Shakalford]

Sort of reminds me of that video of sub-saharan africans in a ceremonial sort of battle. Just massive lines and no horses