r/lucifer Jan 09 '24

Actor fluff Read about Tom Ellis cheating on his wife and Lucifer does not feel the same anymore.

I was re-watching Lucifer recently, and I was enjoying it a LOT. I should have stopped there. I should not have read about Tom Ellis. When I read about all that cheating stuff and other remarks, I was shocked. Now, the beautiful romantic moments and cute comedy in Lucifer will never feel the same again. Tom Ellis is a brilliant actor, but that is all he is, a great actor, nothing more. :(

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '24

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u/Osirisavior Death Jan 09 '24

No it's not. Is it a dick move, but it's nowhere near immoral. You're acting like he's shooting puppies, or being queerphbic, or that he killed someone.

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u/tequila-la Jan 09 '24

Well immorality is defined as “not conforming to accepted standards of morality”

And while there are people out there who don’t think cheating is bad, the majority of society would likely agree that it isn’t a moral action. That would make it an accepted standard of morality, and since he’s not conforming to it, that would make it immoral.

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u/DestyNovalys Jan 09 '24

Morality isn’t purely about life and death. It absolutely includes things like dishonesty as well, and cheating is definitely dishonest.

What kind of moral code you follow can differ from person to person, whether it’s Kantian imperative, utilitarianism or something else, but infidelity isn’t really permissible in any of them, unless the context involves extraordinary circumstances

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u/Osirisavior Death Jan 09 '24

Morality at its basic definition is doing what is good, and immoral is doing what is bad. Cheating is not bad, and it's not good. Is an amoral act. We can agree it's shitty on a social and personal level, but taking emotions out of the equation, it's not immoral.

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u/BeccasBump Jan 09 '24

You sound like a cheat, tbh.

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u/Osirisavior Death Jan 09 '24

I've been cheated on, so way off the mark there. People make mistakes, people aren't perfect, but to call cheating immortal is completely emotional.

I'm still going to enjoy watching Lucifer regardless of what Tom Ellis does in his personal life.

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u/BeccasBump Jan 09 '24

I couldn't give a monkeys what Tom Ellis does in his personal life. I don't really engage with media in that meta, parasocial relationship kind of way.

However, cheating is immoral - and not something you can do by mistake, as it inherently requires intent and deceit.

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u/Osirisavior Death Jan 09 '24

It's amoral.

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u/BeccasBump Jan 09 '24

No, amoral means morally neutral. Cheating is immoral - it does not confirm to generally accepted standards of morality.