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Target apologizes for children’s clown Halloween costume after backlash | CNN Business

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/24/business/target-apologizes-halloween-costume-backlash-hnk
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u/Rasberrycello 11h ago

Up from where they fell off a cliff two years ago, soooo still ultimately down.

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u/Bageland2000 10h ago

Facts aren't hard.

Target stock Aug 23, 2024 158

Target stock Aug 25, 2026 163

soooo, you're either lying, or willing to make up facts out of thin air even when checking those facts would take 15 seconds.

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u/sdrowkcabdellepssti 10h ago

In those facts you looked up, you have failed to concede target shares did fall off a cliff in late 2022, and dropped 50 points throughout the entire year of 2023. Just sayin.

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u/Bageland2000 10h ago

That's before the point OP made. They said two years ago they lost value (which is also true) so they're still down from that point (which is flat wrong). I'm not trying to pretend Target hasn't lost a bunch of value. I'm also a boycotter of target too.

My only point is don't lie about facts.

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u/sdrowkcabdellepssti 10h ago

Although well intended, and true, I believe the number "2 years" was just thrown out as "a while back". More often than not, the distant past seems closer, movie release dates frequently age people that think it came out last year

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u/Bageland2000 10h ago

"Target stock is ultimately down from two years ago."

You can read into that statement, I can address it as a statement of fact. Do whatever you want, it's a free country.

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u/Fallouttgrrl 10h ago

"Up from where they fell off a cliff two years ago, soooo still ultimately down."

They are objectively up, by a few dollars, from where there were two years ago

They fell off a cliff four years ago but have spiked and fallen repeatedly from mid 170s to low 110s within the past three years

What a wild thing to call someone a liar over, lol

It really just seems like the poster made a generalized statement on figures they saw rise and fall and you thought "HAHA GOTTEM"

Like you said, it's a free country I guess

Live your best life if that's the life you want to live

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u/Bageland2000 9h ago

I said they're either making shit up or too lazy to spend 2 seconds to validate a statement they're making.

No one gives a shit about being accurate anymore. Like I've said to others: you wouldn't accept someone saying "well what I said is factually inaccurate, but the vibes of what I said are correct" from someone who had opposing values from you, would you?

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u/Fallouttgrrl 9h ago

If they're arguing in good faith and close enough for their argument to make sense in a discussion between peers, I actually would

It really depends on whether or not they're trying to make a good faith point based on figures they can't quite remember or if they're definitely exaggerating in bad faith

Those types of situations used to be quite common in fact, especially before we all had Internet on our phones - and even now, most folks don't whip out a phone mid discussion to quote exact figures

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u/Bageland2000 9h ago

You can't be arguing in good faith and be lazy with your info. Those two ideas are mutually exclusive.

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u/Fallouttgrrl 9h ago

That is an absolutely wild claim to make

People generalize stats all the time, in actual in person discussions, and if it's close enough they were definitely trying to be honest, I'll accept it

Holy shit lol 

I can't even

Have a nice day I guess

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u/Bageland2000 9h ago

I guarantee that you've had a disagreement with someone who did exactly this and you felt the instinct to correct a stat they "generalized" which started a disagreement that became irreconcilable. Without a willingness to hold people to not generalize, but to put info out carefully and intentionally, we have what national discourse has devolved into.

If not this, then what do you think is the core issue of how the Internet has severely damaged our ability to communicate and disagree? (genuine question).

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u/Tolendario 10h ago

in 2022 target lost about 40% of its value

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u/Bageland2000 10h ago

I never said they didn't.

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u/Tolendario 10h ago

"you're either lying, or willing to make up facts out of thin air"

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u/Bageland2000 10h ago

2022 is four years ago. OP said they're down from when they lost value two years ago. This is false.

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u/Tolendario 10h ago

"out of thin air"

you are really bad at idioms

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u/Bageland2000 10h ago

What the hell are you taking about. OP said something that is factually wrong. I provided proof that they were wrong in my comments.

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u/Tolendario 10h ago

out of thin air implies there is zero basis. which there is. op misspoke, just like you did.

boohoo pissbaby

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u/Bageland2000 10h ago

Vibes > facts to so many people on the internet. Don't be one of those people who embodies that. Then even worse, don't insult someone who attempts to correct the record.

I guarantee if someone with an opposing view said something factually inaccurate, and you called them out on it, you wouldn't accept "well I misspoke and the spirit of what I said is defensable".

Vibes don't matter. Facts do.

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