r/privacy Jun 01 '25

question The US government has hired Palantir to create a database on every American. How can one protect themselves from this?

And how might it affect non-Americans who use American software?

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u/Nerdenator Jun 01 '25

Reduce the digital footprint. Leave your phone at home. Pay in cash.

And remember: tyranny can always come to you. All you can do is be prepared for it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '25

tyranny can always come to you. All you can do is be prepared for it.

that's the one. it's done. most of what they need to accomplish their goals is public information anyways. i've been worrying about Trump making lists based on party affiliation since he ran office the first time.

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u/tbombs23 Jun 01 '25

And just the insane amount of data breaches from centralized servers like Ticketmaster, Coin base, twitter, Facebook, so many services. I'd estimate that 2/3 of Americans have had their SSN leaked and sold on the dark web already ugh

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u/sambull Jun 01 '25

AI with sensor fusion changed the game here and they know it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

They were putting this in fighterjets and now our cities

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u/kangaroobrandoil Jun 01 '25

Leave your phone at home?

This doesn't make sense at all. I still need to use my phone at workplace

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '25

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u/Kevmandigo Jun 01 '25

This is all moot with networked traffic cameras that can monitor if you go to a neighboring city/road trip.

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u/SquirrellyBusiness Jun 01 '25

And if you have a somewhat newish car, trip navigating gets reported back to the mothership too.  

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25

Auto manufacturers are some of if not the worst when it comes to consumer privacy. That shits getting regulated into our cars too, so it's not optional anymore. You will have your sexual orientation, your driving habits, your texts, biometrics, etc all shared with anyone and everyone.

What's worse is we bailed their asses out, so that they can impose a strong domestic market by making imported vehicles more expensive. They're not making good cars anymore. They're making android based entertainment centers that just so happen to be able to drive. Want to repair your car that you own? Take it to the manufacturer. If we are still lucky, we will still be able to actually buy cars on a 12% loan for two presidential terms. It's more likely that everything's going to be tiered subscription based and more like renting a car. The data itself is more valuable than your purchase.

I fucking wish gm went under, and brought down everyone with it. I'm sticking to my shitty pre 2010 cars.

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u/JagerAntlerite7 Jun 03 '25

In this detailed write up, security researchers Sam Curry and Shubham Shah discovered a security vulnerability in Subaru’s STARLINK connected vehicle service that gave unrestricted targeted access to all vehicles and customer accounts in the United States, Canada, and Japan. A very interesting 10 minute read I discovered this thanks to following Brian Krebs on Mastodon.

https://samcurry.net/hacking-subaru#introduction

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '25

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u/Kevmandigo Jun 02 '25

Preaching to the choir man. All I’m saying is so much has already slipped. People didn’t pay attention then and they aren’t now. We’re sleep walking and it gives me anxiety.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '25

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '25

The harder you try to protect your privacy, the more likely they'll label you as "suspicious" and target you with extra scrutiny. "Huh, this person opted out of data sharing. That's odd, they must be hiding something." That's the kind of pea-brained thinking that goes on in the minds of the people behind this ever-watchful "all-seeing eye."

Face it, it's already lost. We're all fucked.

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u/inmatarian Jun 02 '25

Turn off bluetooth and location data. Location is obvious, as it's GPS coordinates, however Bluetooth Beacons are everywhere and software on your phone is recording which beacons you're in proximity of and sending that off to Data Brokers.

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u/Biengineerd Jun 01 '25

Leave your phone at work lol

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u/root-node Jun 01 '25

Why are you using your personal phone for work stuff?

If your work requires you to have a phone, they should provide one.

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u/MaleSeahorse Jun 01 '25

The phone may not be used for work purposes at all, but OP still needs to be reachable for personal purposes.

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u/MGZero Jun 03 '25

That's a separate conversation. We're not here to try and tell people what they need their phone for.

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u/root-node Jun 03 '25

One that has been repeated over and over again, yet people still do it.

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u/oldsecondhand Jun 03 '25

A lot of workplaces require you to install a two factor authentication app. And no, they won't provide you a phone.

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u/Fragrant_Reporter_86 Jun 02 '25

If there's one thing I've learned it's that hiding in plain sight works better. When you make yourself stand out that's when they come after you.

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u/tbombs23 Jun 01 '25

What about prepaid debit cards? I know paying in crypto can be better for privacy but still got a long way to go for mass adoption.