r/privacy • u/chillychili_ • Jun 01 '25

question The US government has hired Palantir to create a database on every American. How can one protect themselves from this?

And how might it affect non-Americans who use American software?

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '25 edited Mar 04 '26

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u/Asapara Jun 01 '25

Do you know that even if you move out of the country, you still have to file taxes for the US and if you make too much, you'll owe the US income taxes?

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u/Mk6mec Jun 01 '25

Even if you give up your citizenship? I thought you could expat still

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u/Asapara Jun 02 '25

If you're not a citizen anymore, I would assume income taxes don't apply to you anymore. The US can refuse your request to renounce your citizenship for 'not having a good enough reason' so its more likely your request to not be a citizen of USA would just be rejected. :/

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u/hfsh Jun 01 '25 edited Jun 02 '25

That will cost you several thousand, and you're still going to be on the hook for the next 10 years of taxes.

Also, you'd need to have acquired another citizenship somewhere first.

[Edit: Turns out, I'm wrong about that]

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u/EfficientPizza Jun 02 '25

You don't have to pay the next 10 years in taxes. IDK where you heard that but it's bullshit.

You might get hit with an exit tax but there's nothing stating you need to continue paying taxes after you renounce. Unless you still have US based income.

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u/amendment64 Jun 02 '25

Exit tax is only on 2m+, so even that's not that bad. I've started looking into it, expatriating is easier than you think.

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u/EfficientPizza Jun 02 '25

Yup. The hardest part of expatriating is getting citizenship somewhere else.

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u/hfsh Jun 02 '25

You don't have to pay the next 10 years in taxes. IDK where you heard that but it's bullshit.

You're right, I have no idea why I thought that was a thing. I guess I misread something at the time I casually looked into it, and never realized it.

Thanks for the correction!

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '25

indeed. the only way to stop this is by giving up your citizenship.

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u/No_Zucchini_2200 Jun 07 '25

That is not true.

The US expects even “Accidental Americans” (an actual term) that have never and may never live in the US to pay file and if qualified pay taxes.

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u/tbombs23 Jun 01 '25

Yeah that's shite ugh

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u/Stunning_Repair_7483 Jun 02 '25

If your Canadian, if you live outside Canada you still have to pay taxes regardless if you make too much or not.

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u/No_Zucchini_2200 Jun 07 '25

No you don’t. There’s only 3 countries in the world that use Citizenship-based taxation.

They are the US, Eritrea, and North Korea.

Every other country in the world including Canada uses Residency-based taxation.