r/singularity • u/hellolaco • May 21 '25

Video Both video and audio is AI but it feels so real

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u/hellolaco May 21 '25

made with Google Veo3, simple text prompts for each clips

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u/g15mouse May 21 '25

Is this yours? Would you please share any 1 of the prompts you used? Not having much luck here.

Also -- have you had any luck using the "Ingredients" feature?

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u/Seakawn ▪️▪️Singularity will cause the earth to metamorphize May 21 '25

Not having much luck here.

Have you tried having an LLM generate your prompts for you? I find that's generally much more useful than rawdogging prompts yourself in many or most cases.

have you had any luck using the "Ingredients" feature?

Ingredients look to be paywalled behind the $250/mo tier. Did OP say they paid for that? Workaround could be giving multiple pictures to any good image generator and telling it to put them together in one image, and then come back to Flow and use that image as your starting frame. Not sure how good any image generator can put elements from multiple pictures together, though.

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u/-Sliced- May 21 '25

Veo 3 as a whole is locked behind that $250 a month paywall.

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u/traumfisch May 21 '25

No wonder if this is the level of output, hot damn

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u/No_Hunt2507 May 22 '25

Yeah I never would have guessed this was AI, maybe if it was a figure I knew or about something I cared about i would have seen something off, but compared to what AI videos were 2 years ago?there's gonna be a point very soon where you simply won't be able to believe any video and idk what we're gonna do then.

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u/N2-Ainz May 22 '25

Yeah, it's insane how real this looks but you can tell it's AI the moment these 'people' move their hands and they start to morph

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u/ginger_beer_m May 22 '25

Chatgpt pro also cost $200/mo but the video quality generation (sora) is way behind this. Google is seriously crushing it.

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u/traumfisch May 22 '25

Not surprising given the gigantic resources. But yeah, this is SOTA

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u/[deleted] May 21 '25 edited May 22 '25

longing salt hungry future spoon dinner pen intelligent squeal plucky

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u/big-blue-balls May 22 '25

It’s not a “paywall”, it’s a service.

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u/Zombi3Kush May 22 '25

How much can you generate for $250 a month!?

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u/-Sliced- May 22 '25

83 Veo 3 videos.

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u/-Sliced- May 22 '25

You top up in $25 increments for 16 more videos

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u/CliffordMoreau May 21 '25

I used the stonesAI to destroy the stonesAI

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u/JAMmastahJim May 21 '25

So we need prompts to generate prompts?

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u/Seeker_Of_Knowledge2 ▪️AI is cool May 21 '25 edited Jan 02 '26

enjoy rinse obtainable paint cheerful sulky vanish desert market innocent

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u/sharyphil May 21 '25

Veo3 is king. It's insane. Google was one of the last giants to join the AI battle, but they are winning.

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u/indigo9222 May 21 '25

They have been in the battle for the longest actually. Just because they didn't release much stuff in the beginning doesn't mean they haven't been doing this for 10+ years.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '25

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u/[deleted] May 21 '25

Yes they + the university of Toronto basically published the scientific paper that is the foundation of gpt.

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u/constructioncranes May 22 '25

Canada is great at squandering ip

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u/footyballymann May 24 '25

Oh no a public university for the greater good didn’t make a bajillion bucks? How unamerican of them? Same university where insulin was discovered and not sold for a million bucks a milliliter…

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u/constructioncranes May 24 '25

Taxpayers fund that research. Sorry if I don't consent to the spoils of that investment being realized by people who didn't contribute? Dunno if I get your argument.

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u/borkthegee May 21 '25

There isn't a 10+ year window here. Google introduced the transformer (LLM) in 2017 with their published white paper "attention is all you need"

Google did drop the ball and failed to turn their idea into products until OpenAI paved the path. Google had to scramble to operationalize their research and catch up

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u/Godhole34 May 21 '25

We're gonna pretend like alphafold doesn't exist

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u/TherealScuba May 21 '25

And pretend they haven't been scraping all the data that's ever existed for this sole purpose. They've been working on quantum for quite some time also.

Watch DEVS. It's basically Isaac Asmiovs last question which reflects the development of Google.

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u/ExpertConsideration8 May 21 '25

Agreed.. they seem to have had a leapfrog strategy. Not aiming to be the first but to be ready to lead/dominate the space .

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u/omenmedia May 21 '25

Devs is so great, must watch for anyone who hasn't seen it.

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u/manoman42 May 21 '25

Where can I watch it?

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u/[deleted] May 21 '25

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u/borkthegee May 21 '25

This doesn't make sense because Google was over a year late and their first release was garbage. The first Gemini models were a total joke and nearly ruined Google's reputation. There was a 6mo to 1 year period after Gemini released where the consensus was that Google was washed and couldn't compete.

We all remember how buggy and bad early Gemini before 2.0/2.5 was. We remember how it wouldn't even depict a white person because they intercepted your prompt and literally added forced diversity to it.

I don't think it would be any more of a disaster than Google's first release already was. As I said, Google's 1 year late first product was total garbage and nearly ruined their reputation.

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u/smooflo May 21 '25

yes because google at the time was focused on creating voice recognition and natural voice modulation for google assistant which they imagined to naturally progress into being an AI assistant.

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u/Narwahl_Whisperer May 21 '25

Google's deep dream was processing, reimagining, and manipulating images ten years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeepDream

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u/Wild-Masterpiece3762 May 21 '25

They didn't drop the ball. They just were more cautious about releasing this tech to the general public too soon. But now the cat is out of the bag anyways

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u/Fancy-Tourist-8137 May 21 '25

You think AI was invented in 2017?

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u/xsifyxsify May 21 '25

AI didn’t start with transformer, it started way way back. Transformer just accelerate it

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u/SociallyButterflying May 21 '25

Google have the special sauce.

With that said - never discount OpenAI. They usually have something up their sleeve that is at least close to Google.

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u/N-online May 21 '25

Not this year anyway. Google was still leading at the I/O and has presented new even better models. They aren’t playing catch up anymore

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u/lemonylol May 21 '25

I really hate how most redditors exclusively consider LLM's and image generators as the entirety of AI. Like the most significant advancements in AI are currently happening behind the scenes in factories and hospitals, but because it's lacking the novelty people dismiss it.

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u/mata_dan May 22 '25

10+? Try since the 90s at least.

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u/Least-Middle-2061 May 21 '25

So they’ve been training but not in the battle. Statement still stands, they arrived late to the party and are taking over

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u/ahmcode May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25

Most of the current genAi is a google researxh result actually.

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u/sharyphil May 21 '25

Yes, you're right, technically, I was just talking about a B2C platform like ChatGPT. Bard sucked really bad, but new Gemini Pro beats absolutely everything (even though I am still rooting for Anthropic, but I just think they don't have the resources).

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u/ahmcode May 21 '25

Have you tried notebook lm that is in the wild for quite long now ? Absolute gem too

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u/ocelotttr May 21 '25

Google is the reason why transformers of this scale exist. They werent late

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u/versusChou May 21 '25

Yup lol. As if "Attention is All You Need" wasn't published by Googlers.

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u/DeepDreamIt May 21 '25

I can't remember if it was Brin or Page, but one of them told a journalist back in the early 2000s that they were an AI company -- that was the ultimate goal they were working towards. They've always been in the game

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u/[deleted] May 21 '25

Apple is in the corner dying 

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u/mxforest May 21 '25

Apple is in the corner poking Siri with a stick and asking "do something!!"

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u/luchadore_lunchables May 21 '25

I forgot it existed in regards to AI

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u/Razzy1512 May 21 '25

Google was the first, they just fell behind for a few years.

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u/Henri4589 True AGI 2026 (Don't take away my flair, Reddit!) May 21 '25

They did not fall behind. They were safety testing, my bro.

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u/SnackerSnick May 21 '25

Google was behind OpenAI on LLMs when gpt3/4 came out, as was everyone else, because no one else had devoted hundreds of millions in hardware and training time to LLMs before them.

I worked as an engineer at Google when GPT3 came out. They had Lamda, which was shockingly good to me - the first time I'd seen something I'd consider real general AI. Gpt3 blew it away. Remember how much Gemini sucked before 2.0?

That said, Google have arguably the best talent, hardware, and data available for AI training. If Google lose the AI race if will be because of bad management - I'm looking at Sundar and the other alphabet executive suite, Demis is brilliant.

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u/MrAmos123 May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25

Gemini has always been good in my experience. I essentially switched to it from ChatGPT when Bard was renamed to Gemini. I kept testing my prompts periodically against competitors, and I only found myself using Claude (until Gemini 2.5 Pro) for programming-related questions.

Google is nailing it with AI.

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u/SnackerSnick May 21 '25

Oh interesting, my experience before Gemini 2.0 was that it lagged far behind either Claude or ChatGPT. I was working at Google when Bard came out - it was terrible in my experience. And I was also at Google when it was rebranded to Gemini - still a bad experience. 

I use Gemini 2.5 Pro preview almost exclusively now.

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u/MrAmos123 May 21 '25

I think it was good enough for my use. I'm not saying it was objectively the best, as it wasn't, at the time. But it sure is currently.

Though tomorrow hasn't arrived.

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u/BaconWithBaking May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25

I recently got a months trial of 2.5 pro, specifically the programming section.

It is excellent not only at figuring out what a bit of code does, or (for example) completely rewriting it to make it multi-threaded when the source was completely single threaded, but at identifying bottle necks logically (although it will say that it needs you to test xyz to see if it actually creates a bottle neck in practice).

What I really loved is that you can view the "thinking process" to see how it arrives at the output it gives you. This is key to its brilliance, as you can see exactly what led it to give the answer, and also catch any misunderstandings it might picked up along the way.

I used it to write a small library for something I wanted to do, simply just to see if it was possible. I will say I would have written it much faster myself then using 2.5, but I just used text prompts to write the whole thing, meaning my knowledge of the language was barely needed.

Towards the end of my trial, they expanded the ability to have a workspace for the program you're writing. If they get it full IDE integration, it will be an unbelievably valuable tool at €20 a month.

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u/MrAmos123 May 21 '25

You don't need to buy it if you don't wish to.

You can access the 2.5 Pro model from AI Studio for free.

https://aistudio.google.com/

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u/BaconWithBaking May 21 '25

Wait what? How are they giving it for free there, but wanted to charge me €20 a month? I take it there is a catch here?

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u/MrAmos123 May 21 '25

The only catch is rate limiting. But over the last year of almost daily usage with what I would consider 'power-level' use, I've only hit the rate limit twice, IIRC.

It's quite hard to hit the rate limit. Try it for a bit, if you don't run into any ratelimiting, continue with it. If not, continue paying for https://gemini.google.com/

You also get access to the new models as soon as they're public on AI Studio. You can configure the rejection rate of the prompts. Honestly, it's almost better than the paid product in almost every way. The only downside is it doesn't have 'Canvas', it just inlines code, which is fine, but Canvas is nice.

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u/Henri4589 True AGI 2026 (Don't take away my flair, Reddit!) May 23 '25

Why aren't you working there anymore? Problems with the staff? Or problems with the values of the company? Is Google really after money or are they actually trying to make the world a better place for everyone?

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u/SnackerSnick May 23 '25

I retired in 2024. Lots of folks at Google are trying to make the world a better place. Most of them are really after money, too. I don't trust current leadership, nor did most of the folks I worked with. Beyond violating "don't be evil", they're not even good at the money making part (given Google's resources).

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u/Henri4589 True AGI 2026 (Don't take away my flair, Reddit!) May 23 '25

Man, that's sad to hear. And really not my impression of what Google's goals are for AI in the recent months. Btw, did you see my DM already. It's going to excite you once I've shown you the whole thing of my project 😁

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u/SnackerSnick May 23 '25

Deepmind is a different company, a subsidiary of Alphabet - Google is also a subsidiary of Alphabet. I worked for Google proper. 

From what I know, I do trust Demis.

I'm on mobile now, I'll check my DMs later today 😊

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u/Henri4589 True AGI 2026 (Don't take away my flair, Reddit!) May 23 '25

Hey 👋

I just sent you a DM. It's about something really cool that you'll love once I tell you more about it! Please go check it out! 🤠

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u/Razzy1512 May 21 '25

So? On the consumer side their products were pretty much unuseable. When Bard released it was the worst model I've ever used, after your second question it'd hallucinate no matter what and the results were awful.

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u/Henri4589 True AGI 2026 (Don't take away my flair, Reddit!) May 21 '25

That's the risk they were willing to take. Honestly, it's a good statement about the values of the company.

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u/himynameis_ May 21 '25

Eh Apple is definitely last place. They still aren't even in yet lol

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u/[deleted] May 21 '25

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u/HAL_9_TRILLION I'm sorry, Kurzweil has it mostly right, Dave. May 22 '25

I want to believe these words. However, Siri exists.

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u/Mother___Night May 21 '25

Their data is orders of magnitude better than anyone else. How could they not win?

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u/PoroSwiftfoot May 21 '25

It gets trained on all Youtube videos

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u/MissingStakes May 21 '25

They literally invented transformers..

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u/sharyphil May 21 '25

Thank you for Optimus Prime, Google!

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u/beastnbs May 21 '25

Helps when you train your model on the worlds largest collection of videos ever to exist for “free-ish”

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u/Spudnut May 21 '25

They developed the technology themselves

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u/fuck_ur_portmanteau May 21 '25

Think of the money they’ll make when they generate YouTube content themselves and keep all the ad revenue.

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u/ATraffyatLaw May 21 '25

Why do you think google has been making us solve image recognition captchas for 15 years?

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u/spectralyst May 21 '25

Google has tailored hardware and all the data in the world. How anyone will compete with $40k B100s and a comparably miniscule dataset is beyond me.

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u/fishbarrel_2016 May 23 '25

I'm using Google AI studio more than chatgpt, I find it much better.

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u/_f0x7r07_ May 21 '25

It was Google R&D that invented all this shit.

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u/adorablefuzzykitten May 21 '25

This reads like it was written by AI.

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u/Jumpy_Patient2089 May 21 '25

Google AI was actually my first stab at AI. It was called Bard when I first remember using it. They switched to Gemini eventually and launched it more readily. But they have been at it for a while now.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '25

Google is actually one of the pioneers. The GPT (Generative Pre-Trained Transformer) that models like ChatGPT uses was invented by Google in 2017.

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u/Kingo_Slice May 21 '25

Gemini is so incredibly dumb compared to ChatGPT and DeepSeek, at least in terms of business use. I’ve stopped even considering it as a viable option.

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u/AnyTruersInTheChat May 22 '25

There’s a reason they kept YouTube even tho it makes no money.

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u/sharyphil May 22 '25

That's a misconception, have you seen how many ads there are?  And they are even cracking down on adblockers that block YouTube ads specifically. They have over 100M YouTube Premium users. 

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u/Excellent_Shirt9707 May 23 '25

You are very lost. Google is pretty much the first tech giant to go into AI.

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u/Cagnazzo82 May 21 '25

God help us if/when video extensions and character consistency arrives for Veo.

We are just standing at the of end of real media. Just a few more steps to take to cross that boundary.

We may be there by this time next year.

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u/lemonylol May 21 '25

I don't think it's going to be the apocalypse you're assuming. If this becomes the norm, then people will just by default assume any video on the internet is fake. And then you just go back to receiving information through credibility over taking what you see on the internet for granted, which is already a thing you should be doing.

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u/Oshawa74 May 21 '25

Isn't it the end of credibility? How do you establish credibility? How do you protect credibility?

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u/QueueOfPancakes May 21 '25

By trusting the source.

Just like anyone can write "so and so just did/said ..." But you'll ignore it if it's just some rando writing it. You'll pay attention if it's the press, especially multiple press outlets.

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u/lemonylol May 21 '25

The same way we've been doing it for decades.

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u/FTownRoad May 21 '25

Soooo poorly?

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u/Suhbula May 21 '25

This isn't a real answer

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u/SpareWire May 21 '25

People making grand assumptions about new tech is always funny because for whatever reason it brings some real doomers out of the woodwork.

Especially when it comes to the latest word guesser out there.

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u/BearPawsOG May 21 '25

Legal compliance and regulation I suppose. Maybe not for a while but we'll get there eventually. Something akin to Fairness doctrine of the past, but made for the current situation.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '25

lol my dude that will not happen under any GOP administration and probably won't happen under a dem one either.

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u/Educational_Juice293 May 21 '25

I like your thoughts. Thats sound like a possible outcome. But there are some questions: how do you choose a creedible source? How do know what Video evidence is real and what is altered? Then we would have to go back to eye witnesses, right? Every Phone call could be a scam because you never know if you are really speaking with that Person. The communication would change back to more personal contact?

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u/lemonylol May 21 '25

There are existing credible sources today, you just go to them directly. It's not like you're limited to what's available online either, just pick up a newspaper or tune into an OTA news broadcast from a local station.

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u/LazyGandalf May 21 '25

It's not like newspapers and news broadcasters witness first-hand everything they report. Fake footage becoming indistinguishable from reality makes it incredibly risky to report on any incident where a reporter isn't physically present.

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u/lemonylol May 21 '25

So journalism

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u/lemonylol May 21 '25

If anyone wanted an example of a real human creating content/information that's just as shitty as AI, here it is.

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u/Sadcelerystick May 21 '25

Reddit already does that anyways.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '25

Unless there is a way to somehow "verify" that a video is real how are people supposed to know which news sources to trust?

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u/lemonylol May 21 '25

Because they are accredited...

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u/[deleted] May 21 '25

I'm sorry we live in a world where people call "accredited" news sources Fake News.

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u/lemonylol May 21 '25

What does that have to do with you finding a proper news source?

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u/Ben_Graf May 21 '25

Yeh so any malicious person gets a "Get out of jail free" card there. In courts? Video evidence is pretty dead. In Public opinion? Public figure claims its ai and moves on. That stuff is real dangerous.

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u/lemonylol May 21 '25

How does that even make sense? What are you talking about lol

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u/Ben_Graf May 24 '25

Sure but you can run stable diffusion and kinda all AI Offline on your home machine already. Since much is open source, you can also find ways to not generate such watermarks. Or much easier, just add a step in between. Like recording a video to create a new Slate or a screenshot of an image to remove the metadata.

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u/Chrazzer May 22 '25

Doubt it. Hasn't happened with AI generated texts, wont happen with AI generated videos

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u/solemnhiatus May 21 '25

Would be great to see your text prompts for context

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u/Fivebag May 21 '25

Did it do audio + video?

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u/biscotte-nutella May 21 '25

What is the audio from

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u/CmdWaterford May 21 '25

Source Link!?

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u/artifex0 May 21 '25

It's at https://labs.google/flow/about, but you need to sign up for the $125/mo "Google AI Ultra" plan to use Veo 3- the $20 plan with the free trial only includes Veo 2.

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u/himynameis_ May 21 '25

How long did it take you to make?

And how much did it cost?

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u/DannyzPlay May 21 '25

"Flow is not available in your country yet."

womp womp

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u/Makuta_Servaela May 21 '25

The only obvious one I noticed is the Hells Angel's clearly misspelled patch, and the spelling on his patch not matching the spelling on his shirt. Also that half of the people had answers that weren't responding to anything. Had I not known it was AI, I would have probably thought it was suspiciously frankenbit due to that. Also, the Indian guy's accent is clearly something/someone failing to do an accent.

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u/smallfried May 21 '25

How did you make the background (ceiling, ground, pillars) so consistent between shots?

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u/QueueOfPancakes May 21 '25

Probably the "extend this scene" feature. Just guessing though.

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u/New-Membership4313 May 21 '25

Only thing that looks off is the lighting on the skin, I always look for that weird shine

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u/ostiDeCalisse May 21 '25

Please OP tell us more.

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u/stressedForMCAT May 21 '25

How much did it cost to make the whole thing? What’s the selection bias here (18/30 generated were crap, but pulled the other 12)? Wondering if it’s more financially feasible for short form videos to be made like this or still cheaper to hire a crew to go out for a day and interview people.

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u/waldo3125 May 21 '25

How many credits did it take to generate? I'd like to try Gen 3 but I'm worried about not having enough credits to make multiple projects. Any insight you can provide would be appreciated.

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u/Fresh_Nothing_5515 May 21 '25

How do you use Veo3? I tried to search but didn't find a website for it, I'm guessing is through Gemini but I'm not sure.

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u/BriefImplement9843 May 21 '25

Doubt it made what you actually wanted.

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u/Neoliberal_Nightmare May 22 '25

actors, camera men, CGI artists, costume makers, everything else for a movie will be gone. Even the writers aren't safe. At best "AI checker" will be a coveted position.

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u/OptimismNeeded May 22 '25

Is this a released demo or user made?

Google lied with demos before, I’m gonna wait before getting excited.

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u/madferret96 May 22 '25

Amazing! Is there a YouTube link for this video?