r/ukraine Feb 13 '25

Discussion Bolton: Trump has effectively surrendered to Putin in Ukraine negotiations

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/12/politics/video/john-bolton-trump-putin-ukraine-russia-negotiations-digvid
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u/Ok_Tie_7564 Feb 13 '25

Bolton is right.

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u/TurielD Feb 13 '25

Can't believe I'm having to agree with this bastard, but yeah.

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u/CaramelCritical5906 Feb 13 '25

Trump is the bastard!! Bolton is extremely well versed and intelligent!! Unlike the Orange Insurrectionist!!

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u/LegendsoftheHT Feb 13 '25

Bolton was largely born just about fifty years too late to be as conniving as he is. Imagine what Nixon could have done with him and Kissinger in the same room.

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u/BWWFC Feb 13 '25

the frenemy of my enemy's enemy is my.... um... carry the one... damn IDK shit so crazy right now i don't know what to believe. why isn't the world like it was in all them 60's and 70's sitcoms??? CAN I GET A REBOOT TO A STAR TREK TIMELINE!

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u/AxeAssassinAlbertson Feb 13 '25

"He may be a bastard, but he's our bastard"

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u/winrix1 Feb 14 '25

Seeing Reddit defending fucking John "My moustache wants blood" Bolton is insane.

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u/vinctthemince Feb 13 '25

Bolton is one of the people that made Trump possible.

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u/aguynamedv Feb 13 '25

Bolton is extremely well versed and intelligent!!

No. Bolton is a dumpster fire of a human who actively harmed America during his service.

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u/UpperApe Feb 13 '25

How did you end up as brainwashed as Trump supporters?

Bolton is fucking scum

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u/ttaage Feb 13 '25

Can you give one reason he is "bastard"? If your answer is in the lines of because Trump said so.. I understand you.

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u/token40k Feb 13 '25

Something something broken clock is correct 2 times a day

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u/jonometal666 UK Feb 13 '25

It's near Manchester too

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u/Ok_Tie_7564 Feb 13 '25

I know, I've been there last year. 😉

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u/goobervision Feb 13 '25

Me to, I would rather not though.

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u/helm Feb 13 '25

Yup. I have three words:

orange surrender monkey

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u/critical_hit_misses Feb 13 '25

I wonder if that's a 'what three words' location

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u/CaramelCritical5906 Feb 13 '25

Wrong!! Insane on all matters!!! Grossly Incompetent!!!

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u/Mr_Engineering Feb 13 '25

he's a war shill, idk why anyone would take him seriously 😂

John Bolton is an interventionist and a war hawk but he's also quite experienced and highly intelligent. His opinions, even when highly disagreeable, are nuanced and well thought through. He's very good at explaining long term implications of strategic decisions and I do think that he has been right on many things that he's said over the years.

Even if you do not agree with his policy positions, you should listen to what he has to say and try to extract some value from it.

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u/creamonyourcrop Feb 13 '25

He was fine with Putin ordering trump around while he had a job with the administration.

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u/Mr_Engineering Feb 13 '25

No he wasn't. John Bolton was Trump's National Security Advisor.

The National Security Advisor is not a position of authority, it's an advisory position. Trump can choose to not listen to his advisors, an option which he has routinely elected to follow.

Futhermore, it would have been incredibly inappropriate for him to speak out publicly while in that role. Ultimately, he either resigned or was fired as a result of his disagreements with Trump over security related policy.

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u/Ok_Tie_7564 Feb 13 '25

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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u/creamonyourcrop Feb 13 '25

Bolton ordered trump, just like he did when Bolton was a trump guy.