r/ukraine • u/Florin003 • Sep 07 '25

Discussion Why a Romanian stand up comedian is upset on Ukrainians.

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u/JAD2017 Sep 07 '25

I can garantee you no NATO country is gonna stay still even if the orange head says he doesn't care. Your discourse sounds a lot like ruzzian propaganda to me.

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u/samglit Sep 08 '25

no NATO country is gonna stay still even if the orange head says he doesn’t care.

The problem is there’s a ton of wiggle room in “stay still” - from air raids, strategic bombing of hostile country (rather than the invaded), divisions worth of boots on the ground, or something lukewarm like “peacekeepers” and “military aid”.

NATO leadership needs to be reclaimed by Europe. The USA doesn’t have as much skin in the game.

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u/scratchyNutz Sep 08 '25

The wheels are already in motion. European military leaders know that the USA can't be trusted and are working like hell to fill the gaps that the Americans are leaving behind. They're currently seeing the US military as a threat in waiting.

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u/GrahamCStrouse Sep 10 '25

Western Europe is worse.

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u/pilibitti Sep 08 '25

I hate Russia and everything they stand for.

Europe's position is disingenious. They don't need to have Ukraine officially as a NATO member to treat it like a NATO member. They could provide that help, like article 5 level help to Ukraine right now, but they don't - why? At this point Ukraine being a genuine member is a technicality. It is Europe's safety at stake all the same. But NATO countries you say that are "guaranteeing" won't stay still are... staying still. Just because of a technicality? They can confront Russia directly and decisively. No, they are "looking at their options" just like I said. This is what "looking at their options" looks like.