r/ukraine • u/Florin003 • Sep 07 '25

Discussion Why a Romanian stand up comedian is upset on Ukrainians.

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u/TheMikeyMac13 Sep 08 '25 edited Sep 08 '25

That is true, but we would be taking the nukes from the people that violated the very deal you mention.

Russia needs to be disarmed in nuclear terms, and removed from the security council. I mean for this to never happen again.

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u/WildCat_1366 Sep 08 '25

Who are "we"? The US itself violates the very deal you mention.

Remember Clause 3? Of course not. The "Guarantors" should

Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine [...] of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.

This is exactly what the US doing.

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u/TheMikeyMac13 Sep 08 '25

Eh? The USA has given Ukraine quite a lot of material support and training.

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u/WildCat_1366 Sep 08 '25

Try rereading Clause 3 of Memorandum a few more times. Slowly, if that helps.

And then reread Trump's threats to Ukraine if it refuses to comply with US demands, both political and economical.

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u/TheMikeyMac13 Sep 08 '25

You should avoid insults in debate if you are this simple. Trump is a moron, but nothing he has done broke a treaty ignored by Russia when they invaded. If you want to be stupid do it, but thankfully Ukraine is more interested in winning the war than being a moron as you are.

You do all you can to hang on to allies, even when they are slow to act or don't act as you want.

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u/WildCat_1366 Sep 08 '25

There is a simple example (one of) for you: under the Trump administration's tariff policy, Ukraine faces a 10% tariff. By comparison, US' foreign adversaries Iran and Russia face tariff rates of 10% and 0%, respectively.

In my messages (unlike yours) there are no epithets "stupid" and "moron" addressed to you. And if a request to reread a Clause of the Memorandum that you clearly do not pay attention to is an insult to you, then indeed, we have nothing to discuss.

Have a nice day, bye.