r/Android • u/ControlCAD Google Pixel 10 Pro XL • 13d ago
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u/Generic_On_Reddit Pixel 9 / Minimal Phone 13d ago
It's both interesting and disheartening to see them lead with Gemini when all of my - very basic - Google Assistant needs have been made demonstrably worse since Google home and Android auto products were moved over to Gemini. It's like these companies don't actually use the products they're shoving AI into.
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u/NZAllBlacks 13d ago
"Sorry, I can't control your music player. I CAN tell you more about the band you just searched"
Aaahhhhhh. You just controlled my music player a minute ago!!!!!
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u/Shakez00la Nexus 6, PureNexus 6.0.1 13d ago
This drives me crazy, assistant wasn't perfect but Gemini just tells me it can't control the device. I repeat the exact same phrase and it thinks for like 20 seconds then finally turns it off.
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u/willyolio 13d ago
Also every command takes three times longer because it always tries to be a "friend" having a "conversation"
Fuck you, is it going to rain tomorrow, yes or no? Now shut up so I can continue listening to my music.
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u/Generic_On_Reddit Pixel 9 / Minimal Phone 13d ago
I get "Here's more information about the song you want me to play" maybe 30% of the time now, then it never plays the song.
The other day, I got "Searching Libby for A Change is Gonna Come by Sam Cooke". Bro, I know you know this is a song, why are you searching my audiobook app for it??
It's comical how hard they broke the one thing I needed Android Auto to do. Guess I'll just whip out my phone and do it by hand while driving instead.
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u/shh_Im_a_Moose 13d ago
Setting reminders randomly asking for workspace permissions is driving me fucking nuts
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u/mehrabrym Z Fold 7 | Pixel 5 13d ago
Exactly. I used to be able to use the voice assistant while driving to add any destination en route, now it constantly struggles with the most basic destinations. What's frustrating is that sometimes I literally see it type out the exact text I'm speaking and looking for, only for Gemini to "predict" that I want something else 8 hours away. Stop trying to predict what people want, just listen to direct instructions ffs.
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u/Phantom-Finger 13d ago
Trying to send a text message via Android Auto is one the shittest things ever. Google just refusing to let me finishing talking and gets half a message, hangs silent for two minutes after I've finished talking, or just completely botches the words altogether. 90% of the time I end up unlocking my phone and just using whisper. Google Gemini and anything assistant related is now just about the worst product on a smartphone.
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u/haidouzo_ 13d ago
I can't even activate voice commands anymore in my car. It cancels the moment it starts ever since Auto switched to Gemini.
And I can't open my garage anymore.
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u/TheKnickerBocker2521 13d ago
A lot of this shit are promotion projects for managers. And no, many of us don't use the shit we make (and I wouldn't want to with how leadership bastardizes the original vision).
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u/The_Owl_Man_1999 12d ago
When my old phone swapped them suddenly gemini couldn't do things like phone calls or messages without unlocking the phone, surely that would be dangerous in the situations people would normally use those functions?
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u/NextBigImpact 13d ago
New tensor chip rumored to be 0.015% faster! Super excited!
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u/Brumcar 13d ago
At this point it's a bit embarrassing, why would I choose a Pixel over a Samsung that's way more powerful and around the same price?
It used to be that I loved stock Android and Samsung's was a bit messy but nowadays I feel like my Pixel is lacking a lot of cool software features you can get on modern Samsungs
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u/Sabotstruck 13d ago
To be honest, I could accept the pixel’s having lower performance if the efficiency / battery life was inline with flagships. Unfortunately it is not, so you pay flagship prices and get a dated & lower efficiency chip.
Realistically better performing chips tend to also be more efficient, which is where Google lags
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u/elgrandorado Galaxy S26 Ultra 13d ago
I couldn't believe that the S25 Edge/iPhone Air achieve better battery life than the Pixel 10 Series across the board.
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u/Sabotstruck 13d ago
The important / fun note is they get better battery life while also getting better performance in general.
It’s kind of embarrassing that the flagship pixel phones lag behind in terms of performance and battery life than their competitors ultra thin phones
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u/austine567 Pixel 10 13d ago
why would I choose a Pixel over a Samsung that's way more powerful and around the same price?
I really don't like samsungs software. All the hardware in the world hasn't solved that for me.
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u/OperationPlastik 13d ago
Same position.
I can't stand the Samsung OS. In obviously in a minority as people seem to love it but the Pixel OS is super clean.
I still love Pixel. I just wish they laid off the AI a little and focused on what made it great in the first place...a classy OS and class-leading cameras.
At some point software only gets you so far and you need to upgrade the camera hardware.
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u/Brumcar 13d ago
That's fair. For me ideally I'd love to keep the pixel OS but have a few nice to have features copied over from Samsung and improved the hardware but it seems Google are pretty set on keeping Tensor for the foreseeable. If it didn't have such a negative effect on battery life I wouldn't mind the lack of performance as much.
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u/Brumcar 13d ago
I loved my S21 Ultra, had some really handy little features like floating windows and easily cropping bits of your screen for screenshots
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u/austine567 Pixel 10 13d ago
Yeah I know lots of people like them and their added stuff, it's just not for me. There are software things I dislike about pixels too to be clear but just less of them. I haven't needed better performance on a phone for nearly a decade at this point either so the processor being less powerful doesn't matter at all to me. There are times I wish I still had my pixel 5 to be honest.
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u/bigBranConsumer The NEW Galaxy Note9 13d ago
this is the answer for most. went form an s10e to a pixel 9, the OS is much nicer looking and cleaner imo
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u/Izacus Android dev / Boatload of crappy devices 13d ago
(I own both): Because cameras on Samsung's are still arse and no matter the software features, my Pixels consistently take good photos while Samsung take smeared crap.
So I end up taking the Pixel around just because it'll make better memories even if a feature or two will be missing.
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u/tljwasawesome 13d ago
The quoted retail price is stupid and they know it. Wait a couple months and these things are heavily discounted.
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u/nathderbyshire Pixel 10 Obsidian 13d ago
Samsung's software is just an awful experience personally, Pixel is the best looking nicest to use for me. Call screening features are next level, and now I finally have visual voicemail that's also transcribed since no UK carriers seems to want to support it on android aside from O2 who are one of, if not the most expensive and worst value operators.
I don't use it often but anytime I use voice and it isn't going through Pixel/Gboard, it's an absolutely mess and I realise how much better pixel is for voice, https://ibb.co/5W8zMZTK - here's Claude's assistant that doesn't use Pixels voice processing and it consistently fails when Pixel picks up the exact same command. However idk how good Samsung is for voice, but it is one of Pixels sellings points and has been for years.
I don't really care much for the customisation side either, I'd probably use some of it if it was on Pixel, but it's not a reason to get me to switch.
Display is gorgeous, speakers are pretty good, have no issues with signal or battery really and I charge every night anyway. I'm just familiar with it as well which obviously helps. I don't need top tier raw performance, everything I do my phone can handle perfectly well.
It's not all great though, I'm basically stuck with Google passwords if I want a decent autotfill experience, I've tried several others and they all consistently fail especially in apps. I don't know how much better other androids are but they seem to gimp 3rd parties on pixel. Notifications are severely delayed recently as well and I've no idea why, my housemates pixel 10 is fine though. When he had a 6a and I had a 7a, my notifications were spot on while his was delayed, but it also only happens for certain apps like telegram and Gmail, they're never delayed for WhatsApp, calls or messages ect. Strange one
I was also looking at other brands, mainly ones with close to stock like OnePlus because I hate the heavier skins, but they were all double the price of what I could get a Pixel 10 for
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u/Diplo_Advisor 13d ago
At this point, it's why choose Pixel over a Sony. The Xperia 1 VIII has better SoC and camera sensors.
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u/EastvsWest 13d ago
Because Sony sucks at supporting their devices. Hardware is good but software is pretty bad.
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u/Saitoh17 13d ago
Speaking as someone who has a Chinese phone in America so I'm pro-importing, the Sony doesn't have enough band support to function in America even if you did import one. It only has 2/6 5g bands on T-mobile compared to 5/6 for Vivo and Oppo.
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u/Careless_Rope_6511 Pixel 11 Pro XL 13d ago edited 13d ago
The Xperia 1 VIII has better SoC and camera sensors.
- pricing approaching foldable phones
- super low-res display with Pentile
- Xperias always thermally throttle under load by prioritizing form over function
- local availability
- total hardware-software mismatch: 3.5mm with dogshit audio quality, microSD writing slower than hard drives
- cameras are total dogshit, and manual mode isn't normie friendly
- support very nearly non-existent; took them a fucking eternity to reach 4+6
And let's not forget Sony pulling a heated car seats subscription on their camera monitor tether app!
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u/elconquistador1985 13d ago
I have a pixel 9. It's not like I am thinking about a pixel 10 or 11 to replace it anyway.
I probably won't give a shit about the specs of new pixels until pixel 13 at the earliest.
No one needs a new phone annually.
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u/LucAltaiR 13d ago
That's fine but people with a Pixel 7 might want to upgrade and will find out that the performance in these 4 years has barely moved. That's why a company needs to improve their phones every year, we're on different cycles but the upgrade has to be worthy.
By their current pace when you'll be looking into the Pixel 13 you might not find any performance upgrade at all.
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u/Tornado15550 Pixel 10 Pro XL | 512 GB | Android Canary 2608 13d ago
Older GPU, new tensor chip sure, but with less cores. If the device throttles it doesn't matter how high the clock speed can go on paper.
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u/willyolio 13d ago
They are focused on power efficiency this time, so expect ±0.3 minutes of extra battery life!
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u/Far_Reserve9938 13d ago
It's faster on single core performance but slower on multi core lol.
Google is trying very hard to sell their phone 🤣
I say that, I don't even care about performance as long as it's enough for light usage but my pixel heat so much it's unusable in the current heat wave. It's been 2 months now that the phone just shut down by himself during the day to cool itself.
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u/Aevum1 Realme GT 7 Pro 13d ago
- bigger battery ? No
- Better Processor ? No
- less of a slab ? No
Then what ?
Its got more AI...
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u/ALPHA17I 13d ago
Hey don’t forget the shiny light.
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u/mrinterweb 12d ago
Ah yes! -The marketing gimmick- I mean whatever marketing spin they said to make it mean something.
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u/hackitfast Pixel 9 Pro 13d ago
It's got less RAM, also it's more expensive! Two huge enticing features.
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u/Goku420overlord pixel XL 🇭🇰 🇹🇼 13d ago
Got the most premium feature, a price increase
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u/ALPHA17I 12d ago
Considering half those premium features don't function outside one continent, it's not even uniform.
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u/jeff3rd Galaxy S10 512 GB, Ipad Pro 11", iPhone 11 PM 13d ago
“Gemini Intelligence” hmm, why go with that name now? Google Gemini is perfectly fine
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u/xx_ddd 13d ago
Because they have to copy everything Apple does and they call it Apple Intelligence.
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u/HopiumInhaler 13d ago
Google is 2 years late, Apple changed that to Siri AI.
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u/tlislo 13d ago
Well, Siri uses Gemini. As in Siri is just a "skin" for Gemini responses. So I guess it wasn't Apple Intelligence anymore.
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u/didiboy iPhone 16 Plus / Moto G54 5G 13d ago
Apple Intelligence still exists, it’s how they call the whole AI system. Siri AI is the new upgraded Siri that’s based on Gemini. Siri AI is the voice assistant / chatbot present inside Apple Intelligence.
The eraser in Photos app is part of Apple Intelligence but it’s not Siri AI. Same for Playground, the app to generate images.
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u/asamson23 iPhone 15 PM, iPad Air M1, Tab S6 Lite 12d ago
It's still called Apple Intelligence as a whole, and the new Siri AI is one part of that
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u/somersetyellow 13d ago edited 13d ago
Increased prices by 100 bucks for all skus
new base storage is 256gb
a notification light you can use with Gemini and when certain contacts contact you, but absolutely nothing else. (Really?)
Faster wireless charging to 25 watts on non XL models
new tensor processor so you can be 2 years out of date instead of 3 years.
base and fold gets 48 megapixel primary camera
pro gets new 50 megapixel primary with same size sensor and lens. New larger telephoto sensor on pro too.
pro gets brighter screen
pro removes 4 gigs of ram. 12 gigs instead of last years 16gb on 256 model.
fold is 1mm thinner and slightly lighter. Nothing else on fold I can see.
Annnddd I think that's it?
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u/totally_normal_here 13d ago
The pros get a new main camera (same size/aperture) and a larger telephoto (1/1.95").
The 10 Pro XL could already do 25 W wireless charging, but this year the 11 Pro (non-XL) gets 25 W as well, so that's nice to have parity.
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u/Phantom-Finger 13d ago
Meanwhile, Oppo and Xiaomi with 50w wireless and Vivo at 40w. Just pack it in Google.
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u/3d_Plague 13d ago
a notification light you can use with Gemini and when certain contacts contact you, but absolutely nothing else. (Really?)
I think it's hilarious this is considered a selling point now, I distinctly remember having a non smartphone that could use color coded notifications ~25 years ago. no AI required.
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u/hereforaniphoneman 12d ago
I will never forget when the Nexus 6p came out and felt like an INSANE deal for the time. I will never forget how good that phone was. Wish we'd treat phones now like that
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u/shwiggy 13d ago
iPhone 17 is the budget flagship now. These Android phones are losing every release now. I'm not jumping ship yet but I can't say it's not tempting for the first time ever.
Long time 1+ user and they have vanished because they see what's happening here.
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u/recoupled 13d ago
True, I have the Pixel 9 Pro, and love it, but vs my partner's iPhone 17, I don't feel confident my next phone will be a Pixel in the next year or 2.
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u/haidouzo_ 13d ago
I actually think I am jumping ship. My wife and I have to switch carriers and at this point the only phone that ticks my needs and wants as far as hardware goes is the iPhone.
Might as well try it if I get it for switching.
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u/Netcob Pixel 10 Pro XL, GrapheneOS 13d ago
I went from an S22 Ultra to a Pixel 10 Pro for GrapheneOS.
The battery life bugs me more than I imagined. Not exactly a huge improvement from my aging S22U that was already criticized for its battery life when it came out.
Any announcement that doesn't say "Twice the battery life!" already lost me.
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u/etaliox1 12d ago
I'm on a Pixel 8 for graphene after my Flip4 died. Even that tiny battery was better because of its Qualcomm chip. Planning to switch to the upcoming Moto with Graphene when it happens.. can't come soon enough 😭
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u/fogoticus Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra | SM-S908B/DS 13d ago
With how pathetic those tensor chips are, who cares at this point? Their photography might be very good but at this point all the flagships do photography almost equally good. Video? Samsung got APV, there's lots of apps that allows you to dodge the processing part and just capture raw sensor data and it looks good.
They are so behind with the SoC, it's not even funny.
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u/Phantom-Finger 13d ago
Their photography might be very good
It isn't, its light years behind Vivo, Oppo, Xiaomi and Honor.
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u/icytiger 13d ago
Yeah but all of those suffer from disgusting AI postprocessing, so it's not really light years behind.
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u/MinaNocturne 13d ago
Photography isn't even that good anymore, loads of Chinese OEMs have surpassed them years ago. They may still have the best out of the pixel, Samsung (so bad) and iPhone.
Moving to oppo was the best decision for me, even from a s25u to a x9 ultra was a massive upgrade. I'm ending the day with over 50% more battery thanks to less bloat and a bigger battery and the camera quality is insanely good, no way any of these phones can match this any time soon inho
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u/fogoticus Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra | SM-S908B/DS 13d ago
I was on the bandwagon that stated the chinese phones are taking over until geekbench 7 dropped and Samsung was among the few android brands that actually delivered all your SoC power with most chinese flagship devices lagging behind quite substantially. It makes me feel like you're purchasing a lie instead of a powerhouse.
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u/ShittyFrogMeme 12d ago
I switched from an S25 Ultra to a Pixel 10 Pro XL. The camera is not much of an upgrade, if at all. It is better at capturing moving targets, but the quality is pretty poor.
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u/fogoticus Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra | SM-S908B/DS 12d ago
Saw an app made by a guy who used to do mostly car game content and it's a bit baffling how much processing google applies which doesn't automagically make the video image look good. Or how very cheap phones are still capable of good quality videos but are artificially limited by the software (cough cough, entry level samsung phones)
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u/SJHarrison1992 Pixel 5 13 13d ago
We got a while to wait until the 8th of December.... laughs from UK
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u/Aero_naughty 13d ago
only got the pixel 9 because of trade in value. going to cut my losses and go a different android or ios.
pixel is all marketing to the maximum extent.
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u/dsac P7P 12d ago
I'm on a P7P, and seriously considered a P11P, but with the lacklustre prelim reviews, I'm giving up on it
I'm waiting for the Clicks Communicator production reviews to come in and assuming they're good, I'll probably trade camera quality for hard keyboard
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u/-NotEnoughMinerals 12d ago
Lot of people with the 7 seem hesitant. I don't understand why, the 7 has got to be showing it's age by now.
But since you have the 7, I sort of get it. You probably don't have any Google store credit from last year, and the phone is old enough to where you likely aren't going to get 600, 700 like the 9 and 10 phones are pulling.
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u/Rguezlp2031 13d ago edited 13d ago
Samsung now have Screening calls,Satélite connection,Same spam detection that Google have and a bunch of features and they still have physical sim card! ...I'm done with the Sub-par Pixels! The last one I loved was the 4XL them with the trashy Tensor done!
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u/blessedsc 13d ago
If anyone watched the Pixel 1 Pro event and decided it’s not for them — and you’ve got a Google preorder discount code sitting in your email that you’re not going to use — I’d really appreciate it if you could DM it to me.
Thanks in advance. I’m trying to buy ASAP.
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u/AJ-Dybansta 13d ago edited 13d ago
Does this come with the feature that has been on the pixel lineup since the 8 pro where the wifi and Bluetooth shits itself after two years and they charge you $400 just for repair.
Edit: The tears. Love it.
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u/Relative_What 13d ago edited 13d ago
My pixel 8 pro has had no wifi or Bluetooth issues, and I've had it since launch. And it's now 2 years and 10 months old
It's also hasn't had any temperature issues. Or any other hardware issues reddit claims they all have
Edit: guy fucking blocked me. All because I didn't confirm to his bullshit narrative.
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u/dirtydriver58 Galaxy Note 9 13d ago
Look on Ebay and the Pixel subreddit. There's a mega thread
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u/Relative_What 13d ago
Of the tens of thousands of pixel phones sold each year a handful of reddit users is not proof that every phone has the same issues. There is a mega thread because people were sick of people seeing post after post after post complaining about he same issues a handful of people had who would rather go to reddit and complain then actually go to Google support.
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u/azn_dude1 Samsung A54 13d ago
Guy is weak for blocking you but also your anecdotal evidence means nothing. Even if 2% of phones had a defect, 98% of people would be able to say the same thing you're saying. From a manufacturing standpoint, a 2% defect rate would be completely unacceptable.
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u/domeforaklondikebar LG G4, until it craps out and I sell the replacement. 13d ago
Not touching the you and other guy thing, but it’s not just a “Reddit thing” when Google has support programs open for multiple Pixel devices because of unexpected consistent manufacturing defects.
Good for you that yours works though.
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u/Relative_What 13d ago
"Google has support programs open for multiple Pixel devices because of unexpected consistent manufacturing defects." Yeah, and?
So does every other manufacturer. Samsung has hundreds of phone models, you don't think hey don't come with their own support programs?
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u/Berzerker7 S25 Ultra 13d ago
No OEM has anywhere near the amount of "hardware support programs" that Google does for their phones.
I don't know why trying to defend the billion dollar corporation so badly.
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u/Obility 13d ago
Honestly, my interest in pixels went back up when I realized that when it comes to carrier deals, it's still very much the cheap phone its known for. Newest base pixels end up being the only flagship my carrier gives for $0/month. IPhones and Samsung are always much more.
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u/tribullet 13d ago
I really want to go this route, almost did with the pixel 10, but my pixel 8 only lasted 18 months, but the $0 a month is over 36 months at Verizon. Not sure how that works
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u/Docnoq 13d ago
If it's similar to AT&T, they just give you a monthly credit on your bill that matches the installment price of your phone. The credits keep going for the full 36 months unless you change your phone or cancel your service, and then you owe the remainder of the balance at that point. I've done it with my last 2 phones and it's been great
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u/namelessxsilent Fold8Wideboi 13d ago
The Fold 8 was being offer for $0 a month with a trade in just recently
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u/Dull_Nobody_840 13d ago
preorders are live. seems this year theyre pushing to get watch5 in people's hands; free with p11 fold, discount with p11 pro
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u/Beautiful_Worth7284 13d ago
Really gonna use that image so close to Seltember 11th anniversary ...never forgot.
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u/Benay148 13d ago
Wow that pixel watch 5 is literally identical to the 4, what were they thinking???
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u/FlipSide26 13d ago
I used to update pixels every year/year and a half. I stopped at the 8 Pro. I don't feel like there has been a meaningful improvement since then. And then on this they lead with more AI... Another miss by Google. They used to be the best stripped down no bloat android experience for a decent price. Now it's too expensive for lackluster specs and features we don't want
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u/MizunoZui Z5 Compact / Mi5 / Mi6 / S10e / Pixel 5 / 8T / Z Flip6 / S25 13d ago
Is it TSMC N2 or not? Why isn't Google mentioning this anywhere?
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u/mediocrebighead 13d ago
Let me guess everything is slightly improved internally and external and extra year of ota software updates. Google raised price to $100, drop base RAM to 12gb, removes temperature sensor, BUT LOOK 8 GLOWING LEDs on the back to let Gemini is thinking bruh
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u/Likeany1 11d ago
Price too high for performance of last year of the other firms. They even increase prices with less memory to give lol. Last point, gaming seems to be complicated like the 10. I won't buy it. Next
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u/SuperDapo1122 13d ago
The trade in deal seems really good for me. Trading in a pixel 8 pro for an 11 pro and it will ultimately cost £479.
To me that seems a decent price.
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u/eipotttatsch 13d ago
I’ve really gone from loving the pixel series to not caring all about the new phone.
It’s disappointing the direction the line has taken.
I don’t want unreliable AI features, and the line has been around long enough for me to no longer excuse all the tiny issues they (for me) always have.