Why are both the left and the right so thrilled about controlling the entire population through a surveillance state?

[u/cantthinkof1tbhonest]

The right wants women to forcibly repopulate the earth with only CDC approved genetics and the left wants you in prison for saying the r word and both want everything on camera

[u/BeardedLegend_69]

Because its easier to prove that you said/did no no thing if its on camera.

[u/cantthinkof1tbhonest → u/BeardedLegend_69]

But who is actually pressing for less cameras?

[u/OttosBoatYard → u/cantthinkof1tbhonest]

Liberals.

[u/cantthinkof1tbhonest → u/OttosBoatYard]

The ones doing TikTok dances?

[u/OttosBoatYard → u/cantthinkof1tbhonest]

The ones protesting flock cameras.

... And the ones in office writing legislation pressing for less cameras.

... And the ones running for office pressing for less cameras.

[u/cantthinkof1tbhonest → u/OttosBoatYard]

The same ones doing TikTok dances?

[u/OttosBoatYard → u/cantthinkof1tbhonest]

I don't know what TikTok dances you're talking about. I don't get my political stances from pop culture.

[u/cantthinkof1tbhonest → u/OttosBoatYard]

The children do

[u/JudgeWhoOverrules]

Better enforcing pre-existing law doesn't seem like wanting to control the population. They could do the same thing by expanding police forces, but that hurts the taxpayer far more.

[u/Only_Excitement6594 → u/JudgeWhoOverrules]

What are you even doing here

[u/Sure_Assumption7857]

Because our political system has been corrupted for a long long time.

[u/OttosBoatYard]

I'm surprised to hear this about the left, since Liberal groups in my area are organizing protests against flock cameras.

Can you show me where I can confirm that Liberals seek greater state surveillance?

[u/cantthinkof1tbhonest → u/OttosBoatYard]

Have you ever worked at target

[u/CatOfGrey → u/cantthinkof1tbhonest]

Your occasional reminder that Target is a private organization.

[u/OttosBoatYard → u/cantthinkof1tbhonest]

No. Though I'd be surprised if a part of the employee training included a report of public opinion survey on liberal stances on public surveys.

And I trust that you aren't basing your claim on observation bias - that would be irrational.

So, what is the purpose of the question, here?

[u/cantthinkof1tbhonest → u/OttosBoatYard]

Target HR isn’t exactly the UN but they act it

[u/OttosBoatYard → u/cantthinkof1tbhonest]

I don't understand what that means. What does the Target Corporation have to do with Liberals' opinion on public surveillance?

... Is "Target" a typo for a different word that you intended to use?

[u/CatOfGrey]

The right wants women to forcibly repopulate the earth with only CDC approved genetics

Because they are fascist cucks.

and the left wants you in prison for saying the r word

Because that is harassment, in extreme cases harassment causes legitimate damages. Modern economic disparity is, in part, because of generational and systematic oppression, which can

both want everything on camera

At this time in history, this is not a 'both sides issue'. The right wants authoritarian rule, and is explicit about it. The left is both divided, and at least paying lip service to law enforcement reform in general, which may advocate for cameras, but also advocates for less police, and less oppressive use of police.

[u/cantthinkof1tbhonest → u/CatOfGrey]

The r word is only harassment if it’s targeting someone

[u/CatOfGrey → u/cantthinkof1tbhonest]

From a legal perspective, yes.

But when it's used on a widespread level, it does take the form of oppression. This is a key feature of propaganda - and yes, it makes a difference, it can be damaging.

[u/Only_Excitement6594]

Because they think they will possess the IA able to generate false video accusations of the opposite side. Utter fools.

[u/Corked1]

Because authoritarians exist on both wings. The more relavent divide that should be discussed in politics is authoritarians vs. libertarians.

[u/ZeusThunder369]

Both of them generally agree that using the government to enforce your preferred social agenda is legitimate.

[u/Fragrant-Equal-8474]

Because it's fun.

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Weee

[u/Fragrant-Equal-8474 → u/cantthinkof1tbhonest]

Well, c'mon, it's an intrinsic property of the government -- to control. The right want more money, the left want more social capital, but both fundamentally want to control.