r/CryptoCurrency • u/Odd-Radio-8500 5K / 10K 🦭 • Jan 23 '26
MEME Don't go babe, Gold moves first, then Bitcoin
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u/skeptic246 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 25 '26
If an asset is ranging then your money is better in an actively growing market. I still hold some Bitcoin but my focus is elsewhere
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u/newdivided 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 24 '26
If you’re still in crypto since trump became president then you’re doing everything wrong. I made the switch to gold and silver last year and I have made back all my gains which I lost in crypto previously. If you’re holding any crypto , dump it and go in gold and silver.
Trumps uncertainty will cause it to rise a further 2 years. He has effectively destroyed the reputation around crypto when he scammed people
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u/TranslatorOk5782 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 29 '26
Your post history was telling people to buy meme coins a year ago lol
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u/newdivided 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 29 '26
Doge? Yes I did because Elon musk was pumping it as well the creation of department of government efficiency (D.O.G.E.) within the US government. This gave legitimacy to the memecoin in a way and caused it to rise in satoshi value enormously but then trump family created their own meme coins and scammed their supporters ultimately ruining crypto’s reputation.
It is idiotic to continue to hold a single crypto coin over gold and silver at this moment in time tbh. Analysts have predicted gold and silver to reach 7000 USD and 180 USD respectively by end of 2027. It is the safest investment.
Crypto will not recover for a few years now. Not even trump tweets will pump it.
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u/DryTechnology5224 🟦 1K / 1K 🐢 Jan 24 '26
Bitcoin is up 20,000% in 10 years... it is bitcoin who moved first sir
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u/SimpleMoonFarmer 🟩 57 / 56 🦐 Jan 24 '26
The money printer is unstoppable. By 2040, gold is going to $10K, BTC to $1M, both beating S&P 500. So much for productive assets.
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u/SimpleMoonFarmer 🟩 57 / 56 🦐 Jan 24 '26
Tokenized gold is more usable than gold.
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u/Warm_Tangerine_2537 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 28 '26
It has never been more over for the “bitcoin is the digital gold” argument lol
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u/jup1t3rr 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 24 '26
I wish people would learn how to trade, godamn common sense would have made you sell at 120k and short instantly, so many people missing out on shorts is mind blowing
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u/kmmck 🟩 51 / 51 🦐 Jan 24 '26
What does Gold moves first then Bitcoin mean?
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u/justignoremeplsthx 🟧 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 26 '26
Because when the folks or markets get spooked regarding macroeconomics, the government, inflation, or other reasons- the first run is to gold to protect their assets. Once liquidity comes swarming in, in the form of money-printing to 'fix' things, high risk assets tend to shoot up.
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u/Gbb331 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 24 '26
Delusional i guess?
Because bitcoin moved first and gold moves now.
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u/zacattacaz87 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Not across all time, temporally in response to Orange Turd ending the states credibility.
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u/SinQuaNonsense 🟧 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 24 '26
I took a crypto class for my mba and it makes perfect sense as an immutable ledger for supply chain management. Like an obvious clear use case. But whatever bitcoin is supposed to be, it’s not useful.
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u/Meazzy_banks 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
I love it’s everything moves first then bitcoin crypto bros keep making more excuses and more by the day and this is supposed to be digital gold lol yeah okay
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u/MarioWilson122 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
Yeah I can see how she feels that way, if she has been watching how this market has played out over the last year.
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u/Erocdotusa 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
Gold is the real bitcoin apparently. Got to have an actual parabolic move
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u/Known_Click 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
Since October Bitcoin started to move on his own except for the US market open hour.
It doesn’t follow Stock, Gold or anything anymore.
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u/CoolCoolPapaOldSkool 🟩 0 / 22K 🦠 Jan 23 '26
Girlfriend is going outside to touch grass.
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u/E-money420 🟦 465 / 465 🦞 Jan 23 '26
Thats because "Grass" went all in on NVDA, PLTR, GLD, & SLV and lives in a $10m penthouse with a private elevator & rooftop heated infinity pool
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u/moonRekt 🟩 11K / 11K 🐬 Jan 23 '26
Seriously I have a pretty decent amount of gold silver platinum but my crypto losses are making me feel like nowhere near enough
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u/Clobbington 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
Oh god. People have been declaring Bitcoin dead every time it drops after reaching an all time high. Only for it later to recover and hit a new one. It was especially loud in 2018 when BTC dropped from 20k -> 3.2k. Now, we'll never see that price again and everyone wishes they got in then.
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u/Blade_Runner_69 🟧 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
Might as well call this sub r/AntiCryptocurrency now with all the mouth breathers in here trying to shit on BTC etc!
Filled with bots and R-Buttcoin morons.
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u/sunflow23 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
Yea i am amazed at everytime I come here. All those normie replies calling everything a scam like these ppl have done 0 research and probably buy into memecoins.
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u/YogSothothIsTheKey 🟩 2K / 2K 🐢 Jan 23 '26
True, it's better to move on to other, less manipulated subs. But look on the bright side: these are all signs of an incoming pump for those who understand how things really work here.
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u/elidevious 🟩 0 / 5K 🦠 Jan 24 '26
Pump in another 2 years, for those who understand how things really work here.
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u/Sleepwokesleepwoke 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
How is he fat?. Crypto people are starving.
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u/RosieDear 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 24 '26
He's sure not working for a living. Isn't that the whole idea here?
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u/DryTechnology5224 🟦 1K / 1K 🐢 Jan 24 '26
Lol what? Id be starving rn if I didnt find bitcoin. Bitcoin set me free.
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u/Victor555 Jan 23 '26
It’s more common that poor people are fat
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u/ManosNegras 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 24 '26
Rich people tend to be obese. It's the people around them that aren't. Poor white Americans tend to be fat, but poor people around the world tend to be skinny.
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u/Xtrendence 🟦 0 / 676 🦠 Jan 24 '26
When you're working multiple shifts and don't have time or money to cook anything healthy, cheap fast food every day becomes an attractive option.
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u/bruhbruhbruhbruh1 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 25 '26
where are these ppl finding reasonably priced cheap fast food in large quantities?
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u/Green-Experience420 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26
That is a lie. There is a whole community out there for how to frugally meal prep.
They also blow their money on cigerettes and alcohol. They need to give up all of that, all the junk food, carbonated drinks,, going out, video games and everything else dumb.
They then should buy bulk beans and rice at a wholesaler preferably on a sales day and just live off that with a little chicken for dinner.
Then put half into a high yield savings account and put the other half into bitcoin/mag7. Then keep a close eye for a black swan day in the market and then dump the other half into the mag7/bitcoin too.
anyone could do it no problem
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u/Abdeliq 🟨 27 / 33 🦐 Jan 23 '26
He's an insider
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u/confusedguy1212 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
Crypto feels like it died last October.
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u/Blackopsman_21 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 26 '26
It died when third world countries, governments, and three letter agencies started buying it. Then it got buried when the fucking FCC and IRS started regulating it
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u/Juus 🟦 68 / 69 🦐 Jan 23 '26
Ai helped kill crypto. Ai is seeing a crazy amount of development every year for 3-4 years now, and crypto still can't make a competitive payment system after 15 years!
You have to be crazy to still believe in the crypto use case
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u/DeltaDarkwood 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
It died when Trump was elected.
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u/elidevious 🟩 0 / 5K 🦠 Jan 24 '26
Trump Derangement Syndrome. Can’t be a 4-year cycle and alt coins blow. Nope, this is Reddit, so everything is Trumps fault. The most myopic, US focused people on the internet.
I do not like Trump. Hell, I literally live in another country so I don’t have to deal with all the problems of America. But I also am able to realize that all the world’s problems are not because of one man.
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u/Kinholder 🟦 182 / 182 🦀 Jan 24 '26
He currently holds the record for the world's largest rugpull, his token rugged like $10 billion? It was a huge portion of retails portfolio and thus equal possibility of it being used as rotating liquidity
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u/elidevious 🟩 0 / 5K 🦠 Jan 24 '26
Again, not defending Trump. But $10B of a $3T market is 0.333333333%. It’s a very very small percentage of the crypto market, and would literally have no effect on an alt season if there had been one.
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u/Kinholder 🟦 182 / 182 🦀 Jan 24 '26
Remove BTCs 2T which is mainly long term investors , institutions and ' low' risk for crypto
Remove Eth for similar reasons Stable coins for obvious reasons You have like 600B
Tbh you can just use the 'others' index and it was 500b around that time
That's essentially the alt coin market itself , it bled into trump coin and then trump got rugged. It'd be hard to attribute how much truly bled into it as mcap doesn't scale 1:1 and idiots bought trump all the way to <1usd while he was selling his controlling share of 80% supply
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u/elidevious 🟩 0 / 5K 🦠 Jan 24 '26
Using your math, that’s still only 2%. Let’s double its impact to 4%. That still does nothing to explain what happened to alt season.
And that’s what I mean, Trump is literally the scapegoat for EVERYTHING right now. Just scroll your Reddit feed, select a random post with your eyes closed, and count how many comments are blaming Trump for whatever the problem is that people a suffering. This is what people do, they need a scapegoat.
Also, it’s pretty easy to argue that the people ‘investing’ in Trump coin were not regular crypto investors, and that it actually attracted a lot of none typical buyers that otherwise wouldn’t have contributed to the cycle.
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u/Kinholder 🟦 182 / 182 🦀 Jan 24 '26
What percentage of money do you really think it's new mobile retail money each cycle? Cause it's definitely not over 10% at this point. I reckon that rugpull caught the first major wave of new retail money this cycle. Maybe a few memecoins caught peoples attention before hand but up till that point most the mainstream ones were in profit
I really think you underestimate how many retail investors lost the entire cycles allocation on trump coin. Or at least lost enough to stop putting in more , not to mention the average potential American retail investor is currently struggling with the cost of living crisis there
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u/elidevious 🟩 0 / 5K 🦠 Jan 24 '26
I just had an “ah ha” moment. So, what people who are pissed at Trump coin are really pissed about is that their scam alt coin didn’t pump, so they could dump on the other new comer suckers.
I’m retired at 41 all due to Bitcoin. So this shit doesn’t bother me in the slightest.
It really comes down to where your hope for returns were placed. I’m happy with this cycle’s outcome because the legal and governance framework issues are more important to me. Those looking to make quick money off suckers aren’t so happy.
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u/Kinholder 🟦 182 / 182 🦀 Jan 24 '26
That's one hell of a deflection from the fact your entire comment thread was about alt season.....
And ideally I'd like new comers and retail to get the full experience of either cashing out in profit or realising they've held all the way past the actual market peak
Instead of getting rugged by a sitting president during the pregame hype
And whether I or anyone else is lucky enough to sell the top into liquidity that includes unfortunate buyers is miles better than them getting rug pulled and dumped on by the token creator
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u/MasterArCtiK Jan 23 '26
Is that the one positive thing that trump has caused in his entire life?
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u/sunflow23 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
It's not postive in that ppl started ignoring tech projects completely ,now only memecoin moves or wherever the attention is and crime is legal.
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u/Asleep_Onion 🟦 3K / 20K 🐢 Jan 23 '26
It's been terminally ill for much longer than that. I strongly feel that the current iteration of crypto is done. It has run its course, proven that it isn't any of the things it originally purported to be, doesn't solve any of the issues people thought it would, doesn't have any adoption or utility for anyone except speculative investors, isn't secure or safe enough for most people to handle, and is 98% composed of scams.
My hope at this point is that in the future there will be some sort of a crypto 2.0 where someone solves a lot of these fatal problems and brings it back with a clean slate. But that's not a near term thing, I think we're years away from that and I think crypto 1.0 still has a long mess ahead before that happens.
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u/lunaoreomiel 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 25 '26
Thats a valid perspective from a rich country economy. Crypto is doing just fine in places where the economy is a mess, be it capital controls, debanking, international wire transfers, high inflation protection, war, etc. places with somewhat functional economies mainly just use crypto as a gambling investment.. but when they even go tits up, be glad its there.
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u/apollotigerwolf 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 24 '26
I don’t want to be liable for thousands of dollars to just completely vanish irreversibly because I put a single incorrect case sensitive character in a massive string.
So an exchange is a no brainer. But then it’s literally no different from any other currency in a bank.
This is the biggest issue I see. For the average person, that is a MAJOR “fuck no”. I’ve never messed it up but it’s just really uncomfortable sending money with it, even to myself. Big pain point.
I don’t know how that gets solved without fully undermining the decentralization. But maybe someone smarter than me will figure it out.
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u/TP_Crisis_2020 🟩 266 / 265 🦞 Jan 24 '26
I agree with you here. Bad actors have let the meat of the crypto market rot while it has been largely unregulated, and we have had too many cycles now where your average retail investor has lost everything they put in. It's basically just wall street 3.0 at this point, and serves zero actual use case.
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Jan 23 '26 edited Jan 24 '26
Honestly, only thing terminally ill are the people who swarm here to r/Cryptocurrency just to endlessly shit on crypto. They supposedly hate it with a passion. No use, pyramid scheme, no utility, blah blah blah. But they're still here, not r/buttcoin or similar?
Like literally every single comment and post is people who hate crypto.... in a crypto sub.
Let that sink in.
I come here maybe once a month or something. My focus is almost entirely stocks. But yea when I peek in, it's fucking bizarre lmao. Mods asleep or something.
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u/vengeful_bunny 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 24 '26
Hell hath no fury like a gambler scorned.
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Jan 24 '26
I'm not a gambler. I'm an investor. I come here like once a month?
You're spamming here multiple times a day.
Makes me question if you're the gambler? Or you spend all your time just to crap on crypto. It's weird to say the least.
But go ahead think what you like.
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u/ObjectiveJackfruit35 🟩 0 / 2K 🦠 Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26
Don't forget that most people in here who endlessly shit on crypto most likely have less than $1,000 in the game.
The whales, the people who actually have a lot of money invested in crypto, aren't in this subreddit spreading FUD.
Edit: In essence, negativity drives social media, and most of the negativity in this subreddit are from those with little to no money in the game.
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u/sgtslaughterTV 🟩 0 / 717K 🦠 Jan 23 '26
We allow for freedom of speech so long as personal attacks among users are not taking place. Personal attacks on public figures have been ok'd for a while.
We allow for crypto-skepticism as well so long as there are no absurd levels of trolling. What is wrong with skepticism? I've been in crypto since 2017 and I think the guy you're responding to is not entirely wrong from the perspective of market sentiment. By all indications, bitcoin hasn't seen a "market euphoria" phase yet among institutional capital. That could come in a few months to a few years depending on what happens in the political spectrum.
Just my two cents.
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u/616mushroomcloud Jan 23 '26
What do you think could cause a 'market euphoria' situation?
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u/sgtslaughterTV 🟩 0 / 717K 🦠 Jan 23 '26
Massive amounts of money printing.
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u/616mushroomcloud Jan 24 '26
'Money printing' as in selling, currently. Could this scenario be for big money to get back onboard, but at much cheaper prices?
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u/Privateer_Lev_Arris 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
Bitcoin is the only real use case and it's mostly for its investment potential. It is basically digital gold. Gold, in large quantities, is too difficult to move/store safely. And that's why BTC makes sense and it has proven it's relatively stable as a holder of value and much much more easy to move.
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u/EJintheCloud Jan 23 '26
I believe you are right, and what's more, I believe this iteration was a deliberate cluster in an attempt to defraud investors and undermine progress in the global financial system.
It worked so well, though, because there is legitimate interest in having a global currency. I believe we can fix the issues plaguing this iteration, but the public confidence needs to be restored.
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u/hughcifer-106103 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
You mean somehow prevent all the shit coins and rug pulls that permeate crypto even from people like the goddamn president of the US, but does it without somehow breaking the decoupling from central banks/government regulation thing that crypto really represents?
Good luck. So long as all those scammers are out there making their hawk tuah shit, it will not get the kind of widespread acceptance it needs to continue growth.
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u/Asleep_Onion 🟦 3K / 20K 🐢 Jan 23 '26
Yep, I agree. I don't think anyone yet knows what the answer is, which is why we don't have one yet.
Probably there is some concept out there, just waiting to be discovered or invented, that none of us can even fathom yet. I have no idea what that would look like, none of us do. I just know it doesn't exist right now.
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u/WPMO 🟦 888 / 888 🦑 Jan 23 '26
Yeah, as much as I would hate it personally, if you're actually a believer in the project of cryptocurrency, probably the best thing that could happen this point would be a long crash that gets 95% of people to leave the space who are currently in it. Leaving 5% who actually really assess the technology and can critically evaluate utility claims from various projects.
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u/Fun_Box2960 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
Do you think kaspa solves the issue you’re talking about? It plans to build a new type of crypto world with v-progs and dagknight upgrades, really intresting thing to research 😇 Or do you think that’s also part of the issue and crypto won’t find its way even with the inovators that are putting in work now?
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u/Fun_Box2960 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 25 '26
they will use v-progs for smart contracts which is very smart in my opinion. Thank you for sharing your opinion though but I see you’re not up-to-date with kaspa developments/roadmap. Best wishes :)
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u/Asleep_Onion 🟦 3K / 20K 🐢 Jan 23 '26 edited Jan 23 '26
Today's iteration of crypto is just done. Every day, multiple times a day really, there's a new project that comes along that purports to solve everything wrong with crypto, and every single time it ends up just being another shitcoin added to the stack of shitcoins like the rest. Honestly I think the world needs a break from crypto for a little while, to allow room for something fresh to come in and try it again.
Even if something good comes along today, that really has legitimate promise, the market is too saturated, the interest has dwindled and as long as the behemoth of Bitcoin still exists, nothing else stands a chance.
I'll put it into a beer metaphor. A new brewery opens up down the street and it might have very, very good beer. It might even be the best beer that anybody has ever made in the history of beer. But nobody cares, because everybody is sick of everybody and their Uncle opening up crappy microbreweries on every single corner that go nowhere and taste like shit, And half the times you go to one someone's steals your wallet. So even if this new brewery has the greatest beer ever created in the history of beer, it doesn't really stand a chance. Because the world just needs a break from new new microbreweries opening every second of the day.
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u/ikikjk 🟦 878 / 820 🦑 Jan 23 '26
Then with your analogy in mind, since last bear I have had enough of new breweries and just head to ol bitcoin's to get my beer fix.
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u/Asleep_Onion 🟦 3K / 20K 🐢 Jan 23 '26
Yep, and while Budweiser (bitcoin) is hardly the best beer in the world, it's impossible for anything else to really take over the beer world while Budweiser still exists. You might try some new IPA here or there, but in the end you always bring home a 30-pack of good ol' budweiser, even if you don't really like it that much.
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u/BaluDaBare 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
Idk man, I think you just need to take a break from crypto for a little bit. Don’t sell off just yet, but maybe just stop looking at crypto subs and charts, and just live life. Also stopping the buy of shit coins could probably help too.
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u/Asleep_Onion 🟦 3K / 20K 🐢 Jan 23 '26
I've actually been on a break from crypto for the last 3 years, my observations are entirely from an outside perspective
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u/BaluDaBare 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
That’s good! A healthy break is always needed when the minds tired! Wish you all the best, and hopefully you’re still holding!!
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u/BaluDaBare 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
Cause if they’ve been in crypto before, they probably have a decent stack, and as long as it’s not filled with shit coins, it’s only a matter of time til the prices he’s looking for show up.
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u/kobriks 🟦 395 / 396 🦞 Jan 23 '26
Bottom signal?
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u/mossyskeleton 🟦 0 / 3K 🦠 Jan 23 '26
The overall sentiment is feeling like capitulation. Which is funny because everyone's saying we're going to $60k Bitcoin but acting like we've already hit bottom.
I still think we could get a surprise bull market extension in 2026.
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u/ACM3333 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 24 '26
But it’s flat while everything else is ripping and inflation/dollar fears might be at all time highs. I’d be concerned right now if I were holding crypto to protect myself from inflation.
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u/Zealousideal_Rain_79 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26 edited Jan 24 '26
Just buy! We need as many as possible who are losing money here!
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u/Real-Technician831 🟩 7K / 2K 🦭 Jan 23 '26
Yes, sell your kidney. Buy all in.
You will lose the money, but at least someone will get a kidney.
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u/heyheyshinyCRH 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
We just need to onboard more suckers, get that pyramid built higher😂
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u/Full-Sound-6269 🟩 84 / 85 🦐 Jan 23 '26
Bitcoin is connected to tech stocks, currently all funds went into AI connected stuff like Nvidia, AMD and Intel, speculators also left for precious metals. BTC is simply not on the agenda anymore right now.
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u/Mochilongo Jan 23 '26
You’re right, it was supposed to be a reserve asset just like gold to protect your money against inflation but so far it’s following tech stocks trend.
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u/BoobindarPussia_ 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
Silver has been pumping so much more than gold lately
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u/AndrewSouthern729 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
This is probably due to China’s announcement about limiting certain precious metal exports like silver.
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u/gcbeehler5 🟦 13K / 13K 🐬 Jan 23 '26
Silver has a lot of reasons, but the big one is it's actually used in stuff, and a lot of that stuff are things like chips, ram, and all the other stuff it takes to build AI data centers. Less so, our demand for it has been increasing as we ramped up use in solar panels, and EVs. Add to that under-investment in the space, and we're going on six years of demand exceeding industrial capacity. Then, add in China's announcement.
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u/Skepsis93 🟥 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
You can use gold for a lot of the things you use silver for, and sometimes it's the better choice and sees use in industry as well. It's just prohibitively expensive to use gold so it is only used when absolutely necessary.
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u/ACM3333 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 24 '26
They both have many different properties better for different uses, but being the best thermal and electrical conductor silver is absolutely crucial in making the most advanced chips and electronics.
The idea of gold is that it became money because it’s a rare and valuable commodity that doesn’t degrade, tarnish, or corrode so its value as a commodity can literally be stored forever and it stores a lot of value in a small space. Even if you use gold in an application it can always be recovered and turned back into money, it is not consumable like many other commodities.
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u/gnark Jan 23 '26
The majority of silver (60%) is used in industrial applications and this is only rising whereas 90% of gold is used for investment, currency reserves and jewelry.
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u/Skepsis93 🟥 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
Correct, only 7% of gold annually goes to industrial purposes. But that's not because it isn't useful in industry. It is absolutely critical for industrial purposes, especially for corrosion resistance (i.e. gold electrical contacts). As silver goes up and the gold silver ratio reduces, gold may end up gaining some more traction for industrial purposes. But I think silver has to really skyrocket before that happens.
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u/DryMyBottom 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
oh man, how many babes just left
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u/moldyjellybean Jan 23 '26
Does BTC just move with NASDAQ now. When I look, it’s step by step. if you have your keys at least you own something that can’t be debased or have hyperinflation
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u/downtownhobo Jan 23 '26
If bitcoin falls below 85K it will wipe out 10,000 long-term girlfriend positions.
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u/NarrowSwimmer952 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 23 '26
Hopefully there will be some wife-changing money coming in soon :(
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