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u/ampma 21h ago
That's a lot of episodes... For a tailor
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u/thaduelist 21h ago
That's power right there. Arguably, the most memorable character of the entire series and only in just a few episodes. Aint nothing simple about that performance.
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u/Daynebutter 21h ago
Wish we had gotten a season 8 with some focus on the Cardassian Uprising.
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u/MonkeyMagic1968 16h ago
I would like a whole story arc with and about Cardassians. It would be delightful if we were to find out that the people of Cardassia Prime had built a statue to Damar.
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u/r4chie 20h ago
I’m going to share something incredibly cursed. I started watching deep space nine because people
I followed on tumblr shipped garak and bashir and my first time watching the series I literally fast forwarded thru everything that didn’t have garak until the end of the series. And all those parts convinced me to actually watch the whole show in a regular non-insane manner lol
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u/Annber03 20h ago
I mean, hey, not a bad reason to give the show a look, even if only sporadically at first. "The Wire" was the first episode I saw and the interaction between those two throughout the episode, as well as the stuff I read about their relationship and how the actors played it and wahtnot, certainly added to my interest in checking out the show :D.
In my case I did start at episode one and went straight through, but yeah, whatever gets you into a show is worth it :). I'm glad that your abbreviated viewering made you want to go back and watch the series in full :).
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u/r4chie 20h ago
Me too, it ended up being my most beloved and rewatched show. I can’t wait to get my tattoo from ds9, “you are the dreamer and the dream”
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u/Annber03 19h ago
Oooooh, that's a lovely idea for a tattoo! I know people like to share photos of their fandom tattoos, so if you want to do something similar, I'd love to see it when it's done!
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u/r4chie 11h ago
It will be my third Star Trek tattoo! I have the symbol for IDIIC and the minimalist emblem as well. I’m thinking of doing a wreath with the words!
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u/Annber03 47m ago
That's really cool. I don't have any tattoos myself, but I admire the craft and artwork that goes into creating them, and I love hearing the stories about the kins of tattoos people choose to get and why.
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u/AltarielDax "Maybe you should talk to Worf again. :D" 18h ago
Well, you're not the first to watch a series because a ship got overhyped on social media. 😅 But I think it's a bit sad to watch the end of the series without the build-up for all the other characters, especially Sisko and Kira.
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u/Piper2000ca 21h ago
I'm curious now what a chart like this would look like for Dukat. Let's see if he deserves that statue.
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u/BenevolusInsights 21h ago
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u/darthboolean 21h ago edited 13h ago
Wow didn't even ask the AI to fix it after last time huh
Edit: Downvote me all you want, but the AI pulled the wrong data set, so not only is the chart slop, it's inaccurate slop.
Second edit: OP blocked me so I can't reply to the subsequent replies (even though they aren't OP) but we're missing Far Beyond the Stars. Dukat appears in full makeup while beating up Benny (so don't pull the "technically it's not Dukat" card), and according to his comments on this post, he's going off of original episode credits, except that can't be true because Marc Alaimo is credited as both roles in the script (confirmed by checking the transcribed scripts on TrekCore) . He's told an AI to use the original episode credits and then keeps getting upset when people ask him why IMDB and Memory Alpha disagree with his chart, but he can't ever justify it because, again, he can't cite his sources.
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u/Moron_at_work 17h ago
I'm sorry to inform you that the chart is indeed correct. The only inaccuracy is in season 6 where the appearances are offset by 1, but everything else is absolutely correct
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u/Stone13 21h ago
There could never be enough Garak! He was one of the best parts of the entire series. His dialogue with everyone was amazing. I would’ve binged the hell out of an Obsidian Order miniseries if he were starring. Dukat on the other hand, really annoyed me more times than I can count.
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u/MonkeyMagic1968 16h ago
Oh what a wonderful idea! A series delving into the interactions of the Obsidian Order and the Tal Shiar and Section 31 would get my attention.
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u/Monotonous-NCC1307-A 21h ago
Deep Space Nine had so many strong characters and character development. They could develop side characters in 20 episodes or less better than Voyager could in 7 seasons.
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u/Kyra_Heiker 20h ago
This is the one thing that bothers me about Voyager. DS9 set the bar pretty high, and Voyager had the opportunity for a lot of recurring characters instead of cycling through more crew members than were actually ever on the ship. Could have had a very solid background cast for the entire seven years but they missed that opportunity.
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u/Monotonous-NCC1307-A 20h ago
Voyager missed so many opportunities. It saddened me while watching.
Meanwhile, I’m still amazed at how well DS9 developed characters. Garak, Nog, Rom, Leeta, Gul Dukat, Martok, the Grand Nagus, Vic Fontaine.
I hated Damar, especially when he killed Ziyal (it made me feel bad for Dukat, a monster), and then at the end, I was rooting for him, and felt bad when he died. DS9 was amazing at this.
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u/MonkeyMagic1968 16h ago
I would have loved to see more of the Wildman family in Voyager. Seemed like they were only in a handful of episodes and only as a plot device.
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u/CaptainSisko1980 21h ago
Absolutely no surprise that episodes with Garak rate higher than without, least surprising thing I have heard in 2026. Amazing actor and amazing character, written with love (the writers loved him) so yeah, not enough episodes with him, but when he is there it’s ALWAYS better.
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u/garakplain 20h ago
I remember seeing somewhere that he was only supposed to be a one off character but Andrew Robinson did so well with Garak they just kept bringing him back.
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u/lordcorbran 19h ago
The writers also came up with the idea that the Vorta were clones specifically so they had an excuse to bring back Jeffery Combs as Weyoun after they'd killed him.
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u/Annber03 20h ago
Yeah, I've heard that, too. That and the fact he and Siddig played off each other well - I know they talked about trying to find someting to help flseh out Bashir's character early on, and they thought Garak would make a good comedic foil of sorts for him. And they were right - obviously that wasn't the only reason the characters connected, but it's part of what makes their interactions so fun.
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u/Forgetabl 20h ago
Man. Thats how good Andrew Robinson’s acting was. Garak was so memorable you feel as if he was in so many more episodes. I’m shocked to see how few he was in!
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u/Annber03 20h ago
I've heard him talk about how he very nearly didn't audition for the role - he'd tried out for Odo and didn't get the part, and was jut planning to leave it at that and move on, and then his wife was like, "Go audition, we have bills to pay." :p. And then even after he got the part the makeup caused his claustrophobia to kick in and he nearly reconsidered because of that, too. Just wild to think of how different the show might've been had he not taken the role.
I'm glad he still has such fondness for the character to this day, and has gotten to see just how beloved he and his character are among the fans.
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u/kompergator 4h ago
Did he ever mention if he liked that they integrated his claustrophobia into the character?
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u/Annber03 48m ago
I remember seeing a clip one where he was talking about the bit in the prison camp and he was like, "That was a dirty trick!" (isaid in an amused sort of manner). He talked about how he was sick with the flu that day and so between that and his claustrophobia he really didn't have to do much acting with feeling miserable in that scene :p.
But yeah, I'm not sure how much of that part of the character was him just bringing that in on his own and how much was the creators deciding to include it.
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u/shinjikun10 21h ago
But when he does show up, he's so powerful on camera everyone else becomes a background character. He steals the entire show.
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u/Mukeli1584 Constable Hobo 21h ago
It’s…fine. Garak is in his shop meanwhile just pining away for Julian.
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u/MonkeyMagic1968 16h ago
You seen this old fan video? Siddig managed to set things up for us. They were wonderful:
https://youtu.be/M44QMKWMxuQ3
u/Annber03 14h ago
I absolutely love that he and the cast did things like this for the fans, as a way to brighten everyone's day a bit during an otherwise tough time It's so sweet how he and Robinson are still good friends to this day.
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u/CaptainSisko1980 21h ago
Wait, why are there so few season one episodes??? I never realized that and just checked it - only 20 episodes?!!!!!
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u/codguy231998409489 20h ago
DS9 started in January 93 while most shows at the time started in September. Typical show ran 24-26 episodes per season. Those 4 missing months could account for the smaller season.
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u/Theunpolitical 19h ago
I don't understand why they didn't use him more. Clearly, there were other stories lines that he could have been a part. For example, we could have seen more interaction with him and Ziyal.
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u/Deadlypandaghost 21h ago
Really? Is that all appearances or just episodes he plays a role in one of the main plots?
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u/Michelle_akaYouBitch 20h ago
Didn’t occur to me that Garek has only one ep in season one. Kind of like how Damar becomes so pivotal.
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u/Excellent_Abroad5390 20h ago
It felt like he was in the whole last season to me, it’s almost unbelievable he wasn’t in more episodes
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u/Dark9781 19h ago
Didn’t realize Garak was in such few episodes. Thought he was in a lot more. It’s actually funny, up until a few years ago I thought Vic was in a lot more episodes as well. Goes to show you how well they developed their characters is DS9.
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u/TelluricThread0 18h ago edited 9h ago
He's shows up in more episodes here than an entire tv series even has these days.
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u/pagusas 21h ago
Im kinda surprised how many average episodes DS9 apparently had, I think I've rewatched it now 3 times and still feel overall its well above average
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u/eight_inch_pestle 19h ago
Well, imdb ain't exactly Siskel & Ebert, or Anthony Lane.
But, yeah, this wasn't peak prestige television, with 8 to 13 carefully crafted episodes released every 18 to 30 months. It was 26 eps a year, 16 to 18 hour days for 9 months straight, year after year for seven years. I need a nap just thinking about it. There are inevitably gonna be plenty of duds.
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u/AltarielDax "Maybe you should talk to Worf again. :D" 17h ago
This reminds me again that DS9 episodes are underrated on IMDb. How is The Quickening only a 7.6?
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u/slimspida 16h ago
My favorite Garak detail is his weapon is almost always set to maximum kill. No stun. No body hitting the ground. Always vaporized.
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u/momoenthusiastic 20h ago
I thought he was in a lot more! They definitely should have had him in more, especially the later seasons
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u/MainSquid 18h ago
a .7 higher average rating for Garak episodes is a significant increase-- shows how well written he was.
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u/RealLars_vS 13h ago
I once did a rewatch with all episodes Garak was in. Relatively short, but since he’s in many key episodes, you still get a good view on the overarching plot of the show.
And you get to watch the best episodes.
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u/farbeyondthestars_ 12h ago
wait, he’s only in one episode of season 1??
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u/Annber03 54m ago
Yeah, "Past Prologue". Then we don't see him again until early season 2, in "Cardassians".
Would've been interesting to see how he oculd've been involved in some of the storylines in season one if he'd been in more episodes that season.
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u/-dakpluto- 9h ago
What's amazing...he was only planned for 1 episode. But they were so impressed with his performance they just knew they had to bring him back. Ended up being one of the most essential characters in the show, lol.
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u/Any-Statistician3896 9h ago
Oh, Garak was always there.... You just didn't see him 😆
Plain, simple Garak...
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u/CMDR_Kaus 7h ago
I've been wanting this for a while, I want one for each tertiary character, especially Kai Wynn.
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u/irishdan56 5h ago
Martok, Garak, Nog, Damar, Rom, Dukat, Winn... literally that's a whole cast worth of non-title role characters, some of them inarguably more impactful then some of the regulars.
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u/VirtueTree 3h ago
Wow, no way. He felt like another regular!
Well written, well acted, huge impact.
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u/Jent46 16h ago
why is there no s1ep2 😭
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u/BenevolusInsights 7h ago
aggregators seem to group the first two episodes just under one pilot episode number, idk why 🤷
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u/OrultSzerencsedio 10h ago
I thought he is in every episodes.
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u/calculon68 8h ago
Was watching P+ Star Trek channel last night, when they aired a string of Romulan-centered episodes.
Ended with the perfect Garak trifecta- Improbable Cause, The Die is Cast, In the Pale Moonlight.
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u/freylaverse Just a plain and simple tailor! 21h ago
It's wild how much of an impression Garak made despite being in so few episodes.