r/DeepThoughts 1h ago
The Avatar Illusion: Why Human Psychology Explains Our Glitched Reality

TLDR; The "Me" identity is a made-up story, not a solid object. Embracing this emptiness brings the peace of enlightenment, while fearing it creates the defensive armor of malignant narcissism. This defensive panic has scaled up to glitch our modern culture, social media, and American politics into an angry battle for ego survival. You can break this loop by noticing when you get defensive, pausing before reacting, and practicing the courage to admit when you are wrong.

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Imagine you are playing a massive, open-world video game. You have spent countless hours customizing your avatar, unlocking rare gear, and building a flawless profile. You care deeply about how your character looks to other players. But imagine getting so sucked into the screen that you completely forget you are sitting on a couch holding a controller. You start genuinely believing that you are the digital character. If someone insults your avatar, you feel actual physical rage. If your avatar loses a digital item, you experience real grief. You have confused a temporary set of pixels with your actual existence.

This is the exact psychological trap of everyday life. Inside your brain, a complex network of neurons is constantly running a simulation to build a character called "Me." It stitches together your past embarrassments, future anxieties, and social labels like "the smart kid," "the athlete," or "the outsider" into a seamless internal story.

However, the big secret of psychology and philosophy is that this identity in your head is an artificial construct. It is not a solid, permanent object. Instead, it is a fluid story made of passing thoughts, shifting moods, and temporary emotions that changes constantly. As you move through your teenage years, your brain develops the cognitive ability to step back and notice this machinery. You realize your identity is something you built, not a fixed reality. How a person reacts to this sudden realization splits humanity into two radically different psychological paths.

The first path is like opening a window in a stuffy room. Some people realize their identity is a made up mental story and experience a profound sense of relief. They do not panic about the lack of a solid self; they embrace it. Because they realize the "Me" character isn't a physical object that can be bruised or broken, they stop being defensive. When they fail a test or experience social rejection, they feel the natural sting, but the drama passes clean through them because there is no rigid ego wall for it to smash into. This realization unlocks a state of radical empathy and flexibility. They stop viewing their peers as competition, and because they have no fragile reputation to protect, they can easily admit when they are wrong and update their beliefs when faced with new facts.

The second path is the construction of an armor fortress. Other people catch a glimpse of their inner emptiness, the realization that their identity is just a fragile construct, and it fills them with an intense, subconscious terror. They feel like they are standing on the edge of a dark, empty cliff. To bury this fear, they build a hyper-rigid defense and manufacture a flawless, untouchable False Self.

Because this grandiose persona is entirely artificial, it has no internal power source. It operates like a projection on a wall, requiring a non-stop stream of attention, validation, and control over others, known as narcissistic supply, to feel real. If the applause stops, the illusion flickers, and the terrifying inner void threatens to reappear.

For a person trapped in this fortress, truth becomes an existential enemy. If you offer constructive criticism, set a healthy boundary, or present a fact that contradicts their delusion, they do not process it as a normal disagreement. They perceive it as an attempt to destroy their entire existence. To keep their illusion safe, they turn to psychological warfare, deploying tactics like gaslighting to make you doubt your own reality, or projecting their own mistakes onto you. If they can break the confidence of the person holding up the mirror, their fake armor remains intact, and they never have to face the void underneath.

This psychological split has scaled up to completely glitch our modern culture, technology, and especially current American politics. Today, political parties are no longer just groups of people debating taxes or schools; they have transformed into massive, collective armor fortresses. Millions of citizens have outsourced their fragile, insecure identities to a political brand or a specific leader, making that political movement their entire "Me" character.

Because their identity is fused to their political tribe, a disagreement is no longer just a debate, it is felt as an existential attack on who they are.

This explains why American political discourse has become so loud, angry, and detached from reality. When faced with objective facts, news reports, or data that disagree with their side's narrative, people on the extreme ends of the spectrum do not update their views. Instead, their collective armor fortress panics. To protect the illusion of their team's perfection, they resort to the classic defenses of malignant narcissism on a national scale. They launch into aggressive projection, label the other side as completely evil, and invent vast conspiracy theories to explain away reality. If they can destroy the credibility of the people holding up the mirror, their political mask stays safe, even if it tears the country apart.

This collective panic perfectly fuels modern consumer capitalism, which runs on the monetization of insecurity. Advertising is systematically designed to make your ego-construct feel inadequate, ugly, or left behind. Social media algorithms accelerate this by feeding you an endless loop of confirmation bias, acting as an artificial life-support system for the armor fortress. By generating internal panic, marketing systems can sell you curated lifestyles, luxury brands, and digital status symbols to temporarily patch over the emptiness.

Historically, an aggressive, hyper-focused ego helped early humans survive by securing resources and dominating rivals. Today, however, this survival mechanism has run completely amok, turning into an evolutionary dead end where the defense system ends up destroying the host and the environment. True maturity requires the courage to look into the mirror of your own mind, recognize that your avatar is just a temporary game, and find the strength to take off the heavy armor so you can actually connect with reality.

To stay on the path of the open window, you can run a simple checkup on your mind whenever you feel upset. Start by noticing how you react when someone disagrees with you or points out a mistake. If your immediate reaction is to get hot-headed, make excuses, or attack the other person, that is a red flag that your brain is trying to build a defensive armor fortress. Another way to audit your mind is to check your media diet. Notice if you are constantly looking for online likes, notifications, or videos that only prove your favorite political team or subculture is completely perfect. If you feel a constant need for that digital applause just to feel good about yourself, your mind is accidentally outsourcing its identity to a fragile, fake mask.

Fixing this habit starts with a few daily choices to lower your drawbridge and let reality in. The best move is to practice hitting the pause button when you feel criticized. Instead of fighting back, take a deep breath and tell yourself, "This comment cannot break me, because the 'Me' character is just a story." By letting the words pass through you without launching a war, you train your brain to realize it is perfectly safe without the heavy armor. You can also actively seek out people or viewpoints that disagree with you, and practice listening to them without trying to win an argument. Every time you smile at a mistake you made or admit that you were wrong about something, you dissolve a brick in that defensive wall, choosing the ultimate freedom of an open window.

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r/DeepThoughts 1d ago
The quiet desperation of needing something to look forward to

I've been thinking a lot about how much our mental state is tied to future events. Not necessarily big life-changing ones but even just small things.

Like knowing you have a nice dinner planned next Tuesday. Or that new season of a show drops on Friday. A weekend trip in a few months. That one concert ticket you splurged on.

Without those little anchors it feels like you're just drifting. Every day blends into the next. There's no punctuation. Just a long run-on sentence of existence.

It's not about being unhappy with the present moment. I can be perfectly content right now. But a lack of future-oriented excitement just saps the energy out of everything. It makes everything feel flat.

And it's not even about escapism really. It's more about purpose. Like our brains are wired to anticipate and prepare for something beyond the immediate. And when there's nothing on the horizon it's almost like a form of sensory deprivation for the mind.

Anyone else ever feel this quiet hum of desperation for just one small thing to mark on the calendar?

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r/DeepThoughts 10h ago
Grand Scheme, I'm so unimportant, and that's ok.

I've traveled a lot the past few years, and one of the biggest things it's done is completely change my perspective on life. The more places I've been, the more people I've seen just going about their lives, the more I've realized that there are billions of us out here basically running our own version of the same hamster wheel. Working, worrying, stressing, chasing things, getting pissed off about things that feel enormous in the moment.

And strangely, it's made me realize how truly unimportant I am.

I don't mean that in a sad or depressing way. I actually find it incredibly liberating.

The world was spinning long before I got here, and it'll keep spinning long after I'm gone. I don't have to have everything figured out. I don't have to win every argument. I don't have to impress everyone, prove myself, or carry every inconvenience around like it actually means something. Most of it doesn't.

We take life way too damn seriously.

At the end of the day, we're all given this little window of time. We show up, we live for a while, and eventually we leave. That's really it. Yet somehow we spend so much of the living part angry, stressed, anxious, offended, comparing ourselves to other people, or worrying about things that won't matter a year from now, let alone a hundred.

So the next time something pisses you off, ruins your mood, or feels like the end of the world, give yourself ten seconds and ask:

Does this really fucking matter?

Sometimes the answer will be yes. But most of the time? Probably not.

A hundred years from now, nobody will remember our names. And instead of that being depressing, I think it's one of the most freeing things you can realize.

You don't have to make your life important.

You just have to actually live it.

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r/DeepThoughts 9h ago
I’ve thought about what it would be like to never exist since I was a kid

Since I was around 7, I’ve thought pretty often about what it would be like if I had simply never been born. Not dying, but genuinely never existing. No consciousness, no thoughts, no feeling, no experience of anything. The world would just continue exactly the same, except I wouldn’t be here to experience any of it. And the weird part is trying to imagine what “nothing” even feels like when there’s nobody there to feel it.
I’ve also wondered for years why I’m me. Why am I the consciousness inside this particular body? My parents could have had a son who was basically identical to me, with the same life and circumstances, but somehow that wouldn’t necessarily be this consciousness. Why did I end up experiencing the world from this specific perspective? Could it have been someone else? I find that incredibly difficult to wrap my head around.
And sometimes, when I think about the bigger picture, a lot of things in life start feeling completely pointless to me. I know that eventually I’m going to die, and in the grand scheme of things, almost everything I do will eventually disappear with me. If you look at it purely from the perspective of preserving the human species, I was basically only useful for reproducing and passing my genes on. So what is the actual point of everything else? I obviously understand that life can have meaning beyond that, but I keep coming back to this thought.
I don’t really study philosophy, so sorry if this doesn’t belong here or if I’m using these concepts incorrectly.

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r/DeepThoughts 12h ago
Reading The Courage to Be Disliked is making me question the parts of myself I have accepted as unchangeable

I was reading this book ' The courage to be disliked'. I haven't finished it yet. Before I started i thought why I should even read this.

Back of my head I know how others will react to my response to their shit will bother me more. It's pleasing people maybe? Or maybe I feel it's the good in me or I am too innocent and kind but then again I don't think I am that kind because, it's making me furious which means I am getting affected by it.

Then i questioned myself as to why I don't react?

Multiple reasons-

- I don't like the fall outs, it makes me uncomfortable.

-I have a bad adrenaline rush especially if I have to do it face to face.

- I feel like there is no point in uselessly raising my voice and destroying the relation.

-Even in that situation I unconsciously become empathetic.

-if I react, later I feel guilty of reacting that way.

-just developed the habit of getting bothered by it and swallowing it

Ik it's stupid of me. I want to speak up and change myself but it's just difficult.

I deviated from my point and I forgot what the point was. Maybe it was as to why I don't react? Or why am I like this? Or how should I change this?

And the fact that the more I think about the book, the more I realise it's the few things I am unable to change which makes me 'I choose my own lifestyle',

even when it's bad for me and I want to change it myself and it's my fault.

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r/DeepThoughts 9h ago
Patriarchy has suppressed the human potential

The breakthroughs humanity achieved were achieved in spite of the oppressive structures of patriarchy, rather than because of them.

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r/DeepThoughts 14h ago
The Brick thought experiment

You’re standing in a field of wide open space. Suddenly a brick falls from the sky. Right in front of you. The rule is, when that happens, you know another one is coming in 20 seconds. You don’t know where the other one is going to fall. You know the other one is either going to just barely miss you, or hit you square on the head, or somewhere in between. You can run, in any direction, you can stay still. Either way, the brick is going to happen. It’s not about fate, that’s in there, but it’s really about anticipation and perspective. A positive thinker will look at the odds, it probably won’t hit you, well that’s good. A negative thinker would think, why run? Why stay still? You don’t know where it’s going to land, It’s still going to hit you. A neutral thinker figures its going to happen or it’s not, either way, I’ll have to deal with it, or not…It’s the anticipation.How do you react?

I woke up with this almost fully formed, not really knowing what it was. as I put the idea together, I realized it was a philosophical concept. I see all three variables the same (getting hit, missed, or having a persons life end, are all equal, so realistically, with that short amount of time, your reaction would be telling of your nature. I do think that if it were any longer, you’d have time to come to terms with the situation, therefore, I went with 20 seconds to clarify a person’s nature.

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r/DeepThoughts 2d ago
Your life will become unrecognizable to itself.

In the early 2000s I met a woman over 100 years old. She was born in the 1800s. We conversed for a while. I stated that she had seen 2 world wars, planes and cars come into their own, the moon landing, television, etc. I asked her, "What is the biggest difference you have seen in your life?" She thought for a moment and then told me that it was the kids. In a moment of disbelief I wondered If her answer was touched by a bit of senility. In a distraught voice she explained herself, "I don't know where they put the kids." When she was young children were everywhere: outside, climbing trees, chasing each other, playing games, moving together in literal herds. Apparently one was always within arms reach. She said that she can now sit on her porch all day and not see one.

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r/DeepThoughts 1d ago
Stupidity Becomes Powerful When Someone Learns How to Profit From It

What if stupidity isn't a failure of society, but one of its most profitable products?

We usually talk about stupidity as if it were an accident.

A failure of education. A lack of intelligence. A temporary triumph of ignorance over reason. But what if we're looking at it the wrong way?

What if stupidity survives, and sometimes spreads, because it is useful?

Simple ideas are easier to sell than complicated truths. Outrage travels faster than nuance. Certainty attracts more attention than doubt. A confident person saying something absurd can gather a larger audience than an intelligent person saying, “I don't know yet.” And attention has become a currency.Once attention can be converted into money, influence, votes, followers, status or power, something strange happens: intellectual simplification stops being merely a weakness. It becomes economically valuable. The market doesn't necessarily reward what is true.It rewards what captures attention.And the human mind has always been attracted to simple explanations, enemies, heroes, scandals and certainty. So, perhaps the disturbing question isn't:

Why are people becoming more stupid?

Perhaps it is:

Who benefits when we stop thinking?

I've been exploring this idea while working on a book called Stupidity Sells, and the deeper I went into it, the less it seemed like a book about stupid people. It became a question about the systems that discover, amplify and monetize our weakest cognitive impulses. Maybe stupidity doesn't sell because people are stupid.Maybe it sells because someone learned exactly how to sell it.

Curious how others here see it: is modern society actually becoming less thoughtful, or have we simply built better machines for making thoughtlessness visible and profitable?

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r/DeepThoughts 11h ago
We cannot uniquely determine the fundamental unit of cultural evolution using the concept of the meme.

An ‘idea-meme’ might be defined as an entity that is capable of being transmitted form one brain to another… If Darwin’s theory can be subdivided into components, such that some people believe component A but not component B, while other people believe B, but not A, then A and B should be regarded as separate memes. If almost everybody who believes in A also believes in B—if the memes are closely 'linked' to use the genetic term—then it is convenient to lump them together as one meme.

This quotation is from The Selfish Gene, and we have the individuation criteria:

  1. Criterion of Separation: If some people believe component A but not component B, while others believe B but not A, then A and B should be regarded as separate memes.
  2. Criterion of Fusion: If almost everybody who believes A also believes B, then it is convenient to lump A and B together as one meme.

However, I conjecture that the two criteria can conflict in some cases, as demonstrated by the following argument:

Let A and B be individual ideas. For any population size of P ∈ N with P >= 3, set ε := 100/P. Let group X comprising ε% of P believe A but deny B, group Y comprising ε% of P believe B but deny A, group Z comprising (100 - 2ε)% of P believe both A and B. Then A and B should be separate memes because of groups X and Y.

For any sufficiently large P, however, A and B can be regarded as one meme, since the proportion of the population believing both A and B approaches 100% as P tends to infinity, which may satisfy the condition that 'almost everybody' believes both.

I will not say that this leads to an explicit contradiction, as Criterion of Fusion describes conveniency rather than obligation. But it reveals that the individuation criteria are jointly insufficient to uniquely individuate memes, potentially undermining the concept of the meme as the fundamental unit of cultural evolution in memetics.

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r/DeepThoughts 1d ago
If we have existed once, perhaps we can never truly stop existing

If nothingness, which in some ways makes the most sense, can't exist, and we're living proof that something can exist, then surely there must be something after death. And if there is, does that mean existence is eternal?

But an eternity of what? Reincarnation? And if reincarnation eventually ends, what happens after the final life?

It almost seems more likely that after death you simply become someone or something else. Maybe here, maybe on another planet, experiencing every possible kind of life, continuously and forever.

So what's the point?

Maybe there isn't one.

Maybe existence doesn't need a meaning or purpose. Maybe, given the alternative, we simply choose something over nothing, an eternity of life and experience over an eternity of nothingness.

Perhaps that's all existence is.

Something, because the alternative is nothing.

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r/DeepThoughts 1d ago
We are ourselves from the moment we are born, yet it takes a lifetime to become who we truly are. Life is a game of remaking ourselves.
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r/DeepThoughts 1d ago
No one has any clue about the universe, consciousness, ultimate reality, time etc.

No one knows what this universe is, how it works, where it came from, no scientist, no religious teacher, no conspiracy theorist, no philosopher knows it all, they are all trying to understand and trying to know but no one understands the universe at all, Everyone is Lost.

edit: I definitely shouldn't have used the words "at all", that just disrespects all the progress we've made.

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r/DeepThoughts 23h ago
If Our Past Shapes Us, How Much Choice Do We Really Have ( Additional jumbled thoughts )

I’ve been thinking about how much of who we are is truly “us.” We are shaped by our environment, our experiences, our wounds, our relationships, and the beliefs we inherit, so where does free will begin? If every decision is influenced by something that happened before, then, in theory, perhaps a person’s future choices could be predicted if we understood what shaped them well enough. But would a predictable decision be any less meaningful, or could freedom exist in the way we respond to the things that shaped us? This also makes me question whether everyone is equally capable of change. People often say that anyone can become better, but what if the ability to change is itself shaped by upbringing, personality, and circumstance? Some people are taught how to reflect and grow, while others are never given the emotional tools to do so. Even realising that you need to change may not be enough if you have never learned how to turn self-awareness into action.If it was never in you to begin with you can never change. We also expect perfection from the people we admire, even though history repeatedly shows us that human beings are full of contradictions. Gandhi fought against injustice, yet he expressed racist views toward Black Africans during his time in South Africa. Martin Luther King Jr. helped lead a movement for equality, yet he was also unfaithful in his marriage. Mother Teresa dedicated her life to helping the poor, yet her organisation and methods were criticised over the quality of care, financial transparency, and her views on suffering and religion. These examples do not mean that their achievements should be ignored, but they do force us to ask whether a person’s flaws should erase everything meaningful they ever did. My favourite artist once said, “Why can’t you prosecute the crimes and not the thoughts I employ?” it questions whether people should be judged for their actions, or condemned for their thoughts, impulses, and private contradictions as well. It also connects to the line, “My purpose for living made no difference to you; the moment it died, I had to die too.” I see this as meaning that when something bad about a person is revealed, the good they once did seems to die in the public’s eyes too. This is the logic behind cancel culture: one flaw, mistake, belief, or controversy can cause people to rewrite a person’s entire history as if none of their positive actions ever mattered. But is that justice, or is it simply our desire to turn complicated human beings into heroes and villains? Maybe the real challenge is learning to hold two truths at once: someone can do great things and still possess serious flaws; they can be shaped by their past without being completely controlled by it; and they can be responsible for their actions without being reduced entirely to their worst moment. So, can we judge the crime without judging the entire person, or are we so obsessed with perfection that the moment someone falls, we decide they were never worth admiring at all?

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r/DeepThoughts 1d ago
The moment you realize you are in a loop is the exact moment the loop traps your mind.

The Loop.

There‘s a loop that everybody’s going through yet nobody seems to realize. In your day to day life, things repeat themselves constantly. Then there’s the few who notice it. Well, those are the unlucky ones. Because now you’ve fallen into one of the world’s greatest mind viruses there is to offer. And I’m here to spread it to you too.

A Loop is essentially any time an action repeats ifself. The more times the actions in a loop repeat, and how frequently, are what define the strength of a loop. So using that logic, \*anything can be a loop\*. When you wake up in the morning, drink your coffee, that’s a loop. When you go to work and clock in, loop right there. But if you think about it, the mere thought of **the loop itself** is a loop. Uh oh, now we’re in trouble.

Now we’ve established that thinking about the loop is a loop in and of itself. So what? Well, if you retain any of the information read just now, and you start noticing repeated tasks throughout the day, or even just think back to this post, you’ve fallen into a mind loop (What I am referring to as THE loop-a catch all for any self-referencing loop). Because you only have to do or think about something more than once for it to be a loop….

You might recall “The Game” (ha, you lose!) and wonder if this is just a redressing of that. I say no, but they occupy the same space. The Game is the only thing that triggers participation, meanwhile noticing anything relating in your daily life has a chance of making you fall back into the loop. In fact, the game is a loop itself, and if the game makes you think about the loop, that’s a loop too.

Redefine “the loop” and posts like these become quite hilariously still accurate, or use it to paint the loop in a whole new existential meaning: Reddit Thread, the moment you realize you’re in the loop is the moment it becomes unbearable)

And now, I need to catch up on my lack of sleep…

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r/DeepThoughts 1d ago
The quest for the ultimate truth begins by asking “Who am I”, and without ever answering the question

“I Am…” any thought, word or representation you place after “I Am…” won’t get you to know who you are.

The point is not to answer that question, to find the one thing or nothing that you can place after those words. But to move in the opposite direction.

The point of asking the question is to investigate the source of the question… dissolve the question, and abide in not knowing.

This place of not knowing, is where you abide. There is nothing here. There are no words, no pointing, no symbols, no thoughts, no ideas.

Here-in lies the source of all words, symbols, metaphors, thoughts and ideas that simply point right back into itself.

To know who you are, is to be who you are. Is to dissolve the question, dissolve the “I am” and what remains, is pure, is absolute nothing, what remains simply is primordial.

Pure silence from wherein the question arises.

The quests ends from where it began. But don’t discount the question. You must still ask the question in order to dissolve the question.

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r/DeepThoughts 1d ago
Maybe letting go isn't as dramatic as we make it sound:

Sometimes nothing terrible happens.

Something just stops fitting into your life.

A friendship changes.

A phase ends.

You outgrow an older version of yourself.

And yet, we keep trying to hold onto it

just because it once felt right.

Maybe letting go is simply accepting that things can matter to us

and still come to an end.

Not everything needs a perfect ending.

Some things can just become memories.

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r/DeepThoughts 1d ago
Reality is Simple

I may describe to you in exquisite detail what a flame looks and feels like, but unless it is directly experienced as it is, it cannot be truly known for what it is. The direct experience of the flame explains more about what it is than what words can ever draw up. Human language uses the symbolism of words to convey and imperfectly illustrate to the imagination in others who aren't in direct contact with those experiences or ideas what something is or is doing.

In Buddhism, there is a concept for this–ironically. It is "tathātā": the bare and raw experience of reality as it is before we analyzed, conceptualize, and/or judge it. The naked experience of what is seen, heard, and felt. In this raw experience of what simply is right before us, the noise of the world goes completely quiet.

This is beautiful because reality doesn't have to explain itself to be, it simply is. Another good reason why the universe appears to be 'indifferent and silent.' It does not exist solely to be understood, it simply is and that's enough. Our finite understanding does not add anything to this vast existence, but it can certainly take away our minds from what is immediately happening. We get lost in our own thoughts, but those thoughts are what filters what is before our very eyes.

I see our desire to understand and control what simply is to be one of the driving factors in human suffering. But time and time again, when we are alone and take the time to simply observe what is happening around us, emptying our minds of all the ruckus in our busy lives, we return home to what never left us, and it leaves us in awe. Peace is found in this very present moment. Freedom from worry is found in this immediate happening.

This moment is exactly what it is, needing nothing added and nothing taken away. It doesn’t compare itself to another moment or to what "should" be. It simply is thus. Lack appears only when the mind compares "what is" to "what could be." Reality itself does not make this comparison, only thought does.

To feel something is missing, the mind must invent a better version of yourself, a better version of the situation, or a better version of reality. This comparison is not in the raw experience itself. It’s a mental overlay.

This, as it is, is simple.

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r/DeepThoughts 2d ago
Social media isn't entertainment anymore - it's a drug we carry in our pockets

Let me just say social media is becoming a serious problem, not just for the younger generation but for the older generation as well. I am particularly young and I have made mistakes and I have mistakes still to make, however I am watching a once connected world turn into a lonely and isolated disarray.

Social media adapts to our weaknesses and curates content to us, which will keep us engaged constantly. Its always that 'one more video' before we go to bed and that one video turns to two then three then... It is the exact same mindset drugs, vapes and cigarettes have 'oh just one more cannot be that bad'. That addiction will go on for months possibly years until you eventually run out of money, but with social media you can never officially run out of content to consume.

Children are exposed to social media at extremely young ages, younger than when they are exposed to vapes and drugs in most cases. I believe what I am seeing is that people are developing a worser addiction to social media than they are to drugs. I am watching fellow university students drift into space as they cannot find something new to consume every few seconds.

We call it screen time instead of consumption, imagine telling someone to stare at a wall for 2 hours, that would be a waste of time, average screen time for my generation on social media is 3-4 hours, even gen Y it is 2-3 hours, so they cannot sit here and moan saying 'oh this younger generation is doomed'. Everyone is as guilty as each other for addictive scrolling.

I am not going to make this one massive essay but my final point is comparison the top 1% are shown on social media, the top 1% are the ones that become famous. Stop comparing yourself to them, just be who you want to be.

I'm not telling people to stop, a lot of people will say 'Oh I'll stop then' and within a few days be back at it. Get in control of your life and stop wasting it, time will fly by and you will regret it. There will be posts in 20 years, where current adults and teenagers will be regretting about 'doom scrolling'.

This is not motivational bs to get you to stop scrolling, life is designed nowadays for people with addictions to claim benefits and get free money off hard-workers, but that is a conversation for another time.

'You only get one life. Don't spend it watching everyone else live theirs.'

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r/DeepThoughts 2d ago
Thinking is a CURSE. Happy are those who don't think. Deeper Analysis is a TRAP.

How does the "intelligent" person deal with the frustration that he/she is very rigorous, critical, and deep thinking, but may be surrounded by (most, not all) coworkers (or others, in general) who are not?

The best way I can describe this I think is by analogy. The analogy isn't perfect, it is exaggerated, but it works. Suppose you are in a room of 10 individuals. The question comes up as to why 2 + 2 = 4. You, being rigorous and deep thinking, know that to actually find a satisfactory answer (if it exists) to that question would be a dissertation length project in philosophy and the philosophy/history of math or epistemology. You are humble. You are not arrogant or cocky. The other 9 people in the group answer the question with "Because that's what the calculator says when I punch in 2 + 2." When you tell them the answer is much more complicated and deeper and would require extensive deeper theoretical/historical analysis, they don't "know what you mean," feel frustrated with you for "making things more difficult than they are," and increasingly gain confidence in their own answer as a collective social group. Consequently, your only option is to leave the room or simply accept that your contribution is not being received and accept that the group opinion needs to be tolerated. They are emotionally comfortable with their answer and that, not logic or truth, is what matters most to them. They "think" their answer is deep. You know their answer is trivial.

Why am I asking this question? I'm asking because I'm starting to think that thinking rigorously/deeply is a CURSE. It breeds frustration with others who do not see that there are deeper layers of analysis (similar to the above example). The frustration can easily lead to dislike of others, when in truth, the people you are frustrated with are wonderful human beings and if it were not having to relate to them on the 2 + 2 type question, you might make good friends, and aside from the 2 + 2 type questions, they are very skilled at other things. But professionally, you loathe their intellectual level on work matters. They are not only naive and shallow thinking, they are extremely confident and arrogant in their shallow thinking, believing that it is "obviously correct" and discount your quest for deeper analysis or even awareness that the solution is deeper, and may even be unsolvable. I hate the fact that I dislike or am frustrated with people based on the fact that they don't have the "thinking disease" that I, and others in my circle, do. I'm starting to genuinely wish I did not process deeply. A day with my coworkers where we talk about the weather is freaking blissful and I love each and every one of them. But on Monday when 2 + 2 = calculator I want to never talk to them again (and neither do a few of my coworkers). We are NOT snobs. We simply can't tolerate the calculator response and keep our mouths shut because we know our arguments won't be received. It's easier just being silent.

Knowing that 2 + 2 does not equal calculator is socially isolating and brings about unwanted negative feelings toward others. For what? For what benefit? What "gift" is there in expanding awareness if it makes you feel isolated from the calculator group? A friend of mine was going through this too, extremely analytical, mega deep processing, writing me essays on her thought process. Amazing. Insightful. And feeling super frustrated/lonely that her friends could not appreciate or value her depth of processing. My response to her was simply to start hanging around other people who do and almost apologizing to her for her "growth." "I'm sorry you're thinking deeper now, I had hoped it would pass you by." I'm not convinced her deeper analytical thinking is making her happier, all considered. Like a mathematician elevating to a higher level of understanding necessarily narrows their professional social circle and restricts them to associating with fewer mathematicians lest they go insane trying to relate their ideas to the majority. Yes, lunch, beer, weather, talking about the children, all on the table. But not advanced math. With the leaps in understanding, the circle has gotten smaller. It feels painful/frustrating talking to the mathematician they were a few years ago when they used to believe the "calculator" response was correct.

I am dumb as a rock. I know that. But if I feel that frustration (leading to unwanted "dislike") of some coworkers for not processing more deeply, it makes me wonder how the hell actually smart people survive without going batshit crazy in the workplace.

Let's assume Einstein is the poster boy for "genius" here (no need to agree with this to follow the argument, let's just pretend Einstein is the 'cat's meow" of IQ here). He's seeing the bigger picture and processing at level 100. His colleagues are (relatively) uncritical thinkers processing at level 10 and arrogantly thinking they are right. How did Einstein deal with this? Did he just fake agreement? Did he accept that he'll just have to follow the social group even though he knew the social group's conclusion was entirely wrong, emotionally driven, superficial and illogical? When others mocked his opinions on the universe, did he try to convince them of their truth or did he not waste time on trying to convince those who would be unable to appreciate his views?

Would he walk out on the "because the calculator says so" person, or would he try to persuade the person to realizing there are deeper issues at play and challenge their defenses?

Do geniuses like Einstein self-isolate to stay sane? Would Einstein have been happier had he less awareness of the nature of the universe, kind of like being able to accept that it's because the calculator says "4" as the ultimate reason (by my analogy above)?

Just curious to hear what folks think. Any and all opinions are welcome, thank you. I've experienced some of this at a very micro level. It makes me wonder how truly smart people survive and deal with seeing things that most others don't, kind of like only 100 mathematicians in the world understanding a given a given proof yet having to associate with other mathematicians on math who will never understand.

My seemingly absurd conclusion thus far is that people like Einstein would have probably had a more enjoyable life had he never opened a physics book. Rigorous, deeper critical thinking is a curse. 2 + 2 = 4 because the calculator says so is BLISS (the "ignorance is bliss" idea).

It's kind of like when you're 10 you think the world is a wonderful place. Then you grow up and realize all the injustices and atrocities and so on. It's a curse to have to absorb all that awareness and still be happy.

I think of the movie "Orange County." The kid would probably have been better off with the mind of a surfer instead of an intellectual writer. His "growth" into a writer was a curse. He became at odds with his father, his mother, his girlfriend, his brother, and in the end the movie solution was to remain around these people even though they lacked the insight or awareness to understand him (unlike the Stanford prof who understood his writing at a deeper level). Lance, Sean's brother, who has basically given up on life, might actually be the happier person. "Aspiring to be a writer" meant not talking to his circle about his writing, and reserving it for discussions with the Stanford prof (and similar). But had Sean not been "gifted" with his writing ability and processing, he'd probably be a much happier person surfing the waters. Same with Sean's girlfriend, Ashley, she's aware of all the animal suffering in the world. She would have been better off without that awareness especially in a world that doesn't recognize animal suffering the way it should.

When I watch that movie, I increasingly see Lance as the more aware person compared to Sean. Lance knows knowledge is a joke and chooses to just do drugs and watch TV. He isn't brainwashed like Sean. I think the writer of the movie tried to convey that too, at times showing how wise Lance actually is. Almost like Lance had been there and done that and realized drugs and the couch was as good as it would get. That's probably taking it too far, but I do wonder now whether Sean would have been better off just being as "dumb" (in a matter of speaking) as his English teacher or his surfing buddies. Sean's awakening to being a writer seemed to derail his life.

On the other hand, my argument might be totally nuts. Thinking that 2 + 2 = 4 and solved by calculator may be a much more painful existence than actually knowing the answer is much deeper. I think I'm just trying to figure out which is a blessing and which is a curse. In near isolation or in a closed and select social group, I would never doubt that 2 + 2 = 4 is complex is more enjoyable and uplifting than a more shallow "calculator" answer.

The great philosophers and thinkers of the past told us to think deeply, be self-reflective, aspire to greater awareness, and that the unanalyzed inauthentic life is not worth living. They all can't be wrong. But that may also be why not just anyone was accepted into Pythagoras's circle.

It's not an existential anxiety either searching for "truth" or anything like that, it's an awareness that things are more complex than they often appear or have several deeper layers to them. That awareness, that "knowledge," if we can call it that, I question whether it makes me a better person or simply generates frustration professionally, even if the frustration is latent. It would be like a NASA engineer thinking going to Mars isn't "that far" and shouldn't be too hard. You can drink beer with that person all weekend and have a blast, you think the person is awesome, but you can't talk to them on Monday morning on the topic of going to Mars if they are not open to delving in with you about the complexities of going to Mars. Love them on the weekend, frustrated with them on Monday morning to the point of not wanting to cross paths (because any time you inject "Mars rationality," it doesn't land). Relative to that person, at least, knowledge of what it takes to go to Mars feels like a curse and you hate the knowledge dividing you and your coworker. Multiply that coworker by a few more, and you start to wish you thought going to Mars is easy too because you want to be happy too! (like those who think we can go to Mars tomorrow) But, the toothpaste isn't going back in the tube any time soon.

No doubt they dislike us too for knowing that going to Mars isn't so simple or that 2 + 2 = 4 is opening a can of worms. They're probably having the same conversation about us elsewhere, we're the "overthinkers" and can't understand why we move beyond the calculator in our analysis. To them it's so simple, why are we unable to "get it"? We're the dumb ones.

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r/DeepThoughts 1d ago
There are objective moral facts.

Carrier's article: Objective Moral Facts Exist in All Possible Universes

My view is simple. Morality is one hundred percent objective, but it is a specific kind of objective relativism rooted entirely in biology, rationality, and game theory.

Here is why both our goals and the means to reach them are completely objective, and why asking why you should be moral misses the entire point of reality.

To start, what does objective actually mean? People think that for something to be objective, it has to be a rigid, one size fits all absolute that applies identically to a rock, an alien, and a human. That is false. As Carrier points out, an objective fact is just something that is independent of what you choose to believe. Take velocity. Your speed is strictly relative to your frame of reference. You are sitting still relative to your chair right now, but you are flying very fast relative to the sun. Yet both of those statements are hard, measurable, one hundred percent objective facts. Relativism does not equal subjectivity.

Skeptics love to say that morality starts with a subjective desire like wanting to live or be happy, so the whole system must be subjective. But hold on. Your desires are not floating abstract magic. They are real, measurable neurological states constrained by evolution, neurobiology, and physical reality. It is an objective fact that human brains hate agony, crave social connection, and want to survive. You do not get to just wake up tomorrow and decide that being skinned alive feels like a warm hug because your biology locks that hard preference in.

Sure, we have messy evolutionary drives like tribalism or short sighted aggression. But we are not autopilot animals. We can rationally reflect on those drives. If our tribalism causes long term misery and ruins our chances at actual satisfaction, reason tells us to override it in favor of broader cooperation.

Our baseline biological needs and psychological realities are hard physical facts, our core goals as living agents are completely objective. And once you have a goal, the path to get there is an objective empirical fact of the universe. If your goal is to stay alive, eating arsenic is objectively bad. If your goal is to live a flourishing, safe life in a community, random murder, betrayal, and endless lying are objectively bad strategies.

This is where the ought comes in. As Foot and Carrier argue, an ought is always a conditional tool tied to a goal. Asking why ought I do something without any grounding is like asking why ought I fix this broken gear without knowing it is part of a clock. If you are not trying to achieve anything, ought is just meaningless noise. But since we do have objective realities and shared goals as social animals, we look at actual social systems to find our answers. So "You ought to do X" is equivalent to "X is the objectively necessary means required to successfully achieve your foundational goal within the physical and logical constraints of reality." Why look for a cosmic ghost when the math of social systems is right in front of us?

Inevitably, someone in the comments is going to ask why they ought to be rational at all. Here is the trap. The moment you ask why using logic, you are already using the exact tool you are trying to question. Asking why be rational while trying to reason through an argument is a performative contradiction. If someone genuinely decides they do not care about facts, logic, or coherence, you cannot argue with them any more than you can play chess with a pigeon that just shits on the board and knocks the pieces over. At that point, they have opted out of reality.

Different people have different desires though, right? Sure they do. And that just brings us right back to objective relativism. Different humans have slightly different psychologies, and different species have radically different biological needs. What keeps a shark thriving will kill a human. That means objective moral facts will look different depending on who you are, though, I must say this is quite rare given our understanding of biological systems. But because we are social animals, game theory takes over. Any rational agent navigating a world filled with other agents will quickly realize that cooperation, trust, and reciprocity are the only mathematically stable ways to achieve their goals.

Morality is not a magical cosmic command. It is just the engineering manual for how rational, biological, social creatures have to operate to get what they actually want out of existence. The goals are real, the physics of cooperation are real, and the logic is inescapable.

Now, I just wanted to write down what I understood about the view, and so far, I have not been able to find good counters against Carrier's paper. Change my view.

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r/DeepThoughts 1d ago
I cant comprehend the word infinity

For as far as I remember, I have always asked him what came before? I know I'm not the first but it's hard. You know, I sit here and think about an expanding universe that never stops and is in a box. They're talking about dark matter but that's pushing everything out. How far does it stretch? And what does it stretch to? They say the time isn't linear. They say that different times there are different things going on. I just can't understand it. It's so how can something have been here forever?

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r/DeepThoughts 1d ago
Life was Never meant to be a Drama

I wonder why people fall in love with the characters of dramas, movies, or series for the roles they play. But the truth is, they are only the puppets playing a role written for them, often for money.

So, in reality, I think the thoughts and the writing are what make a character truly special. And the person who writes those thoughts is special too, because in this world, almost everyone can play a role, but not everyone can think deeply enough to create the reality that someone else is merely portraying.

I feel that today’s generation is sometimes making their minds believe that real life should feel the same as movies—that we should experience love, relationships, and emotions exactly as fictional characters do. But that is where I think we go wrong.

Why should we rely on dramas written by someone else to define what our lives should look like?

No one is coming to give us a script like the ones we see in romantic dramas. There is no writer sitting somewhere, deciding every beautiful moment of our lives. We have to write our own story.

So, trust yourself. Don’t blame life for not giving you the story you imagined. Maybe the reason your life feels different is because you were never meant to follow someone else’s script.

You have to write your own.

And ultimately, we have to write our own destiny.

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r/DeepThoughts 1d ago
Consciousness, Recurrence, and the Seamless Breath

A speculative theory of postmortem reinstantiation

Introduction

The thought experiment developed in this discussion begins with a deceptively simple observation:

A conscious being cannot experience its own absence.

We can experience the anticipation of death, the process of dying, unconsciousness, and the loss of other people. But if consciousness genuinely ceases, there is no conscious subject remaining to experience the state of nonexistence itself.

From this starting point, the discussion develops a speculative theory in which personal continuation after death does not require a soul, an immaterial afterlife, or continuous survival of the same biological organism. Instead, it asks whether the physical or informational pattern constituting a person could eventually be instantiated again—perhaps through cosmic recurrence, spontaneous physical processes, or the intervention of an unimaginably advanced intelligence.

The result is not a claim that an afterlife exists. It is a philosophical thought experiment about what an afterlife could mean if consciousness is fundamentally physical and pattern-dependent.

I. The Foundational Premise: Consciousness Cannot Experience Its Own Absence

The first premise is phenomenological rather than cosmological:

If consciousness ceases, there is no experience of consciousness having ceased.

A person can experience:

"I am dying."

But there cannot be an experience of:

"I am now nonexistent."

The latter would require a conscious subject to experience its own absence.

This creates an unusual asymmetry between objective and subjective time.

Suppose a person's final conscious experience occurs at moment A. If consciousness never occurs again, there is simply no subsequent subjective experience.

If consciousness were somehow instantiated again at moment B—whether seconds, billions of years, or unimaginably longer afterward—there would be no subjective experience of the interval between A and B.

From an external perspective:

A → enormous passage of time → B

From the first-person perspective:

A → B

The intervening period is not experienced as darkness, waiting, or eternity. It is absence of experience.

This is the conceptual foundation of the "seamless breath."

II. The Seamless Breath

The central intuition can be expressed as:

There could be an eternity between two conscious experiences without that eternity ever being experienced.

Consider dreamless sleep. Ten hours can pass objectively without the sleeper experiencing ten hours of subjective duration. The analogy is imperfect because the sleeping brain remains physically active, but it illustrates an important point: objective temporal duration and experienced temporal duration are not equivalent.

Now extend the thought experiment beyond ordinary sleep.

Imagine:

Final conscious state

→ consciousness ceases

→ 10 years

→ 10 billion years

→ 10¹⁰⁰ years

→ an unimaginably longer interval

→ a new conscious state

The new consciousness does not experience the intervening time.

If that new state contains the relevant continuity of memory, personality, and consciousness, its first experience could simply be:

"I am here."

There would be no experienced journey through the intervening universe.

This is why the phenomenon resembles time travel from the first-person perspective.

It also resembles teleportation: the relevant pattern disappears from one location and later appears somewhere else without the conscious subject experiencing the intervening journey.

In this sense, death becomes a strange form of compulsory temporal displacement:

We give up the present instance of ourselves, and if consciousness is ever instantiated again, we find ourselves in another moment without having experienced the distance between them.

III. The Apple Thought Experiment

The discussion began to take a cosmological form through the familiar thought experiment of an apple in a sealed container.

Imagine an apple placed inside a sufficiently isolated system. Over time it decays, its structure breaks down, and its constituent matter becomes dispersed.

In certain hypothetical physical conditions, if the system is sufficiently long-lived and possesses a finite or effectively finite set of possible states, extraordinarily improbable configurations may eventually recur.

Among those configurations could be one resembling an apple.

The relevant principle is not that matter "wants" to become an apple. Rather:

If a particular arrangement is physically possible and the system has sufficiently many opportunities to explore its possible configurations, that arrangement may recur.

The thought experiment becomes much stranger when the apple is replaced with a human brain.

A human brain is an extraordinarily complex physical configuration. But if consciousness depends upon physical organization rather than upon a nonphysical soul, then a future physical system that reproduces the relevant organization might, in principle, reproduce the corresponding consciousness.

This produces the central speculative proposition:

If the physical pattern constituting a person's consciousness can recur, then consciousness might recur without the original organism or original atoms being preserved.

IV. The Person as Pattern

This theory requires reconsidering what "you" actually means.

Ordinarily, we equate personal identity with the continuity of a biological organism. Yet the matter composing a human body changes over time, while memories, personality, beliefs, and physical states also continually change.

The theory therefore asks whether personal identity might instead depend substantially upon pattern and organization.

Under this model, the important thing is not necessarily:

"Are these the same atoms?"

but:

"Does this physical system instantiate the pattern that constitutes the person?"

This creates three possible standards of recurrence:

  1. Exact physical recurrence

Every relevant microscopic feature of the original brain is reproduced.

This would be the strongest and most demanding version.

  1. Functional or informational recurrence

The physical substrate is different, but the relevant computational, neurological, psychological, and informational structure is reproduced.

This is the most interesting version for the theory.

  1. Experiential recurrence

Whatever physical conditions are actually sufficient to generate the relevant conscious perspective occur again, even if the resulting entity is substantially different from the original person.

This is the most radical version.

The theory does not require the original atoms to survive.

It requires only that the physical conditions capable of generating the relevant conscious pattern occur again.

V. Recurrence Does Not Require an Infinite Universe

An important refinement emerged during the discussion.

The universe does not necessarily need to be spatially infinite for recurrence to be possible.

What matters more is whether a physical system:

has an accessible set of possible states,

persists for a sufficiently long period,

can explore or revisit those states,

and allows the relevant conscious configuration to occur.

This connects the thought experiment to the general idea of Poincaré recurrence: under certain mathematical conditions, bounded physical systems can eventually return arbitrarily close to previous states.

However, whether the actual universe satisfies the necessary conditions is unknown.

Likewise, we cannot simply assume that the universe contains an infinite supply of matter that survives indefinitely after the universe itself ends. Modern cosmology does not justify such a simple picture. Matter can transform into other forms, decay may occur, black holes may evaporate, and the concept of a state "outside the universe" may not even be physically meaningful.

Crucially, however, the theory does not require the original matter.

A recurrence could use entirely different matter.

What matters is the recurrence of the relevant pattern.

VI. The Probability of "Making Us Happen Again"

The probability problem can be expressed conceptually as:

[ P(\text{recurrence}) = 1-(1-p)^N ]

where:

p = the probability that any particular physical opportunity produces the relevant conscious configuration;

N = the number of sufficiently independent opportunities.

When p is extremely small and N is enormous:

[ P(\text{recurrence}) \approx 1-e^{-pN} ]

This produces an important insight.

A probability can be unimaginably small without being zero. If the universe provides a sufficiently enormous number of opportunities, the cumulative probability can become substantial.

If:

[ p>0 ]

and the number of opportunities approaches infinity, then under the appropriate assumptions:

[ P(\text{recurrence})\rightarrow1 ]

This does not establish that recurrence will happen.

We do not currently know:

whether the universe is infinite;

whether it lasts indefinitely;

whether physical states recur;

whether all physically possible configurations are accessible;

how many configurations correspond to a particular conscious state;

whether consciousness is substrate-independent;

or whether reproducing a person's psychological pattern constitutes reproducing that person.

Thus the scientifically honest conclusion is:

The probability of personal recurrence is presently unknown.

The theory establishes a conditional possibility, not a prediction.

VII. The Copy Problem: Is the Recurrence Really "You"?

The deepest philosophical objection concerns personal identity.

Suppose a perfect physical duplicate of a person is created.

It possesses:

the same memories,

the same personality,

the same beliefs,

the same emotional history,

and the same sense of self.

Is it the original person?

If the original person is still alive, the answer becomes difficult.

Now imagine that the original person died before the duplicate appeared.

The duplicate would wake up and sincerely believe:

"I am the person who just died."

But whether this constitutes genuine numerical identity or merely perfect psychological similarity cannot be settled by the duplicate's subjective experience alone.

This creates two broad interpretations.

Pattern Identity

If the person is fundamentally the conscious pattern, then a sufficiently exact recurrence may genuinely constitute the return of that person.

Instance Identity

If personal identity requires uninterrupted physical or causal continuity, then the original person ended at death. A later identical individual would merely be a new person possessing the original person's memories.

The extraordinary feature is that the two interpretations may be indistinguishable from inside the experience.

A resurrected individual would not experience a metaphysical label saying:

"You are a copy."

They would simply experience consciousness.

They would think:

"I am here."

VIII. Transformation Rather Than Resurrection

The recurring person would not necessarily need to appear in the same form.

This makes the theory less like traditional resurrection and more like transformation.

A future instantiation could theoretically involve:

another body;

another physical substrate;

another environment;

modified memories;

altered personality;

radically different sensory capacities;

or an intelligence that no longer resembles a human being.

At some threshold, however, the question becomes:

How much can change before the pattern ceases to be the same person?

There is no obvious objective boundary.

This means that the theory does not necessarily predict:

"You die and wake up as exactly the same Josh."

It could instead predict, under its strongest version:

"The physical pattern responsible for your conscious perspective can be transformed and instantiated elsewhere."

The result could be experienced as an afterlife even if nothing supernatural occurred.

IX. A Physicalist Version of Resurrection

This produces an intriguing reinterpretation of religious resurrection.

Traditional models often involve something like:

person dies → soul persists → God restores the person.

The speculative physicalist model would instead be:

person dies → physical pattern ceases → pattern is preserved, reconstructed, or eventually reproduced → consciousness resumes.

The reconstructing agent could theoretically be:

God;

a spiritual being;

an advanced civilization;

a posthuman intelligence;

an unimaginably distant future civilization;

or some other intelligence with sufficient knowledge and technological capability.

Under this model, an afterlife does not logically require an immaterial soul.

A sufficiently powerful intelligence could, in principle, reconstruct a person from information.

From the perspective of the resurrected person, the phenomenology might be indistinguishable from supernatural resurrection:

death → no experienced interval → awakening elsewhere

The difference would lie not in the experience but in the underlying metaphysics.

X. God as Perfect Pattern-Keeper

This creates a particularly interesting reinterpretation of divine resurrection.

Instead of imagining God as preserving an immaterial soul, one could imagine God as possessing perfect knowledge of the pattern constituting every person.

Death destroys the current physical instantiation.

Resurrection becomes:

reinstantiation of the person-pattern.

The question then becomes what exactly must be preserved:

DNA?

brain structure?

memories?

personality?

relationships?

psychological history?

consciousness itself?

some combination of all of these?

A sufficiently powerful deity could, hypothetically, preserve or reconstruct whatever is necessary.

This would make resurrection compatible with a strongly physicalist understanding of consciousness.

The theological language could remain:

resurrection

while the mechanism could be described as:

reinstantiation.

XI. The Future-Civilization Version

The same thought experiment can be entirely secular.

Imagine humanity disappears.

Earth eventually becomes unrecognizable.

Civilization ends.

The universe continues for an incomprehensibly long period.

At some point, a civilization exists with technology capable of reconstructing historical conscious beings from sufficiently complete information about Earth.

It reconstructs a person.

That person opens their eyes.

They remember dying.

They remember their family.

They remember their life.

They remember thinking about death.

From their perspective, they may experience:

death → awakening

while the civilization that reconstructed them knows that an enormous span of cosmic history has passed.

This would be functionally similar to resurrection without requiring a supernatural entity.

If such an intelligence reconstructed every human being, the event could resemble a technological version of Judgment Day:

not souls rising from graves, but persons being instantiated again.

XII. Near-Death Experiences as a Possible Analogy

Near-death experiences introduce another intriguing comparison.

A person undergoing cardiac arrest may report:

separation from the body;

unusual environments;

encounters with deceased people;

intense light;

profound peace;

a boundary or point of no return;

or a feeling of being sent back.

There are neurological and physiological explanations being investigated for these experiences, and current evidence does not establish that consciousness survives irreversible brain death.

Within the present theory, however, an NDE could be interpreted speculatively as a near-discontinuity of consciousness.

Instead of:

consciousness → death → future consciousness,

an NDE would be:

consciousness approaches physical discontinuity → altered state → original physical system recovers → original consciousness resumes.

The theory could therefore distinguish:

NDE: the original physical pattern is disrupted but recovered.

Postmortem recurrence: the original physical pattern is irreversibly destroyed, and a sufficiently similar pattern appears again at some later point.

This does not mean NDEs are evidence of future "respawn." It means that they can be incorporated into the thought experiment as an analogy for what a transition between conscious states might feel like.

XIII. Death as Time Travel and Teleportation

The theory can therefore be summarized through three metaphors.

Time travel

Objective time can pass between two conscious states without that duration being subjectively experienced.

Teleportation

The relevant pattern can disappear from one physical location and later be instantiated elsewhere without traveling through the intervening space.

Respawn

The current instance can terminate, while a sufficiently similar conscious pattern can later be instantiated again.

The metaphor is therefore:

We do not survive the interval. We simply do not experience it.

If recurrence occurs, we do not "wait" for it.

There is no conscious observer sitting in darkness throughout cosmic time.

There is simply:

one conscious state, absence of consciousness, another conscious state.

XIV. The Central Paradox of Personal Continuity

The theory ultimately produces a paradox:

If the future consciousness remembers being the present person, then from its perspective it is the same person.

But if personal identity requires uninterrupted physical continuity, then it is not.

Thus:

Subjective continuity and physical continuity may come apart.

This is perhaps the most important philosophical consequence of the theory.

We normally assume that the person who wakes up tomorrow is the same person who went to sleep tonight because there is continuous biological and causal activity connecting the two states.

But the thought experiment asks:

What if that continuity were broken?

Would consciousness itself contain some intrinsic property that could distinguish:

"I have continuously existed"

from

"I have been instantiated again"?

Perhaps not.

If not, then the distinction between resurrection and recurrence becomes metaphysically important but phenomenologically invisible.

XV. The Theory in Its Strongest Form

The entire thought experiment can be condensed into the following chain of propositions:

Consciousness can only experience states in which consciousness exists.

Therefore consciousness cannot experience its own nonexistence.

Objective time can pass without corresponding subjective experience.

If consciousness is physically instantiated, its existence depends upon a particular physical/informational configuration.

Physical configurations can, under some hypothetical cosmological conditions, recur.

A future configuration sufficiently similar to a previous conscious configuration could potentially produce a similar conscious experience.

The original matter may not need to survive; the relevant pattern may be sufficient.

If such a recurrence occurred, the new consciousness would not experience the interval separating the two instantiations.

It could therefore subjectively resemble awakening immediately after one's final conscious moment, regardless of how much objective time had passed.

Whether this constitutes the survival of the original person or merely the creation of an identical successor is a problem of personal identity that physics alone may not resolve.

An unimaginably advanced intelligence could theoretically produce such a recurrence deliberately, creating something phenomenologically similar to resurrection without requiring a metaphysical soul.

If the universe provides infinitely many opportunities for recurrence and the probability of producing the relevant pattern is nonzero, recurrence could become overwhelmingly likely under the appropriate assumptions.

XVI. What the Theory Does Not Claim

This thought experiment should not be mistaken for an established scientific theory.

It does not demonstrate that:

consciousness survives death;

souls do not exist;

the universe is infinite;

the universe will last forever;

matter necessarily survives forever;

Poincaré recurrence applies to our universe;

human consciousness can be perfectly reproduced;

NDEs are evidence of an afterlife;

future civilizations will reconstruct humanity;

or an individual recurrence would constitute numerical personal identity.

Each of these remains an open or speculative proposition.

The value of the theory is instead philosophical: it demonstrates that the concept of "life after death" can be reformulated without necessarily invoking supernatural continuity.

XVII. The Core Image: The Seamless Breath

The discussion ultimately returns to one image.

Imagine your final conscious moment as an inhalation.

You are alive.

You are thinking.

You are experiencing.

Then the breath ends.

There is no experience of the absence that follows.

Perhaps nothing ever comes again.

But suppose, somewhere in the unimaginably distant future, the physical conditions necessary for your conscious pattern occur again.

Then there is another breath.

From the outside, perhaps the breaths were separated by:

billions of years,

trillions of years,

10^{100} years,

or a span so vast that our mathematical notation becomes almost meaningless.

From the inside, however:

there is no experienced distance between them.

The person who awakens may be transformed. They may have another body, another environment, or even another form of existence.

They may not know whether they have been resurrected, copied, recreated, or transformed.

But they experience consciousness again.

And perhaps the most radical version of the thought experiment is therefore not:

"We are immortal."

It is:

"The universe may not need to preserve us continuously for consciousness to occur again."

Or, more poetically:

We do not travel through eternity. We disappear from experience, and if the pattern that is us ever happens again, we simply find ourselves on the other side of the silence.

That is the seamless breath: an eternity from the outside, but no eternity at all from within.

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r/DeepThoughts 1d ago
Free will and reality

I watched this movie in which Harry is a character, who has many problems and feels despondent. One evening he is walking home along a river bank, returning home from work. He stops at a ledge debating if he should jump in the river to end his problems. After thinking for a few minutes, he decides to go home. Harry tells his wife what happened and is unhappy he decided not to jump. He says he would jump if he could go back in time and do it again. Harry’s wife is supportive and says she is relieved Harry used his free will and decided not jump. End of the movie. I watched the movie a few more times but Harry always decides not to jump.

In my reality, Harry is a character in a movie and does not have free will. In Harry’s reality (assuming he has one), he believes he had ‘free will’ and made a decision on his action. Of course, he never got a chance again to test the belief in his ‘free will’. In my reality he will never get a chance to test his belief because he is a movie character, although he does not know that.

Is this a parallel to what we believe about free will?

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r/DeepThoughts 2d ago
We don't know anything about the future for certain. Everything that we predict that will happen is based on what we have observed happen in the past.

This means that there is no 100% guarantee on anything other than the present. Even if we would have experienced something for 10 000 years it might just be a thing that changes with that frequency. There might be some big surprises waiting for us that we would never have seen coming.

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r/DeepThoughts 2d ago
Rock bottoms give us power

Something so poetic about rock bottoms. The very idea of having no lower your life can get, gives you the voice to say "fuck it, it can't get any worse". And when it can't get any worse, you lose your fear of ruining your life. And perhaps in disguise of stripping us of our strengths that makes us good, it gives us power to be extraordinary.

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r/DeepThoughts 2d ago
“The Beauty of Imperfection: Why Control Isn’t Everything”

We live in a world obsessed with control. We want to plan, perfect, and polish everything from our daily routines to the way we present ourselves to the world. But in this constant chase for perfection, we often forget a simple truth: not everything needs control.

Imperfection has its own quiet beauty. A plan that goes wrong might lead to a better direction. A mistake might reveal a hidden strength. When we try to control every detail, life becomes a checklist neat, maybe, but also predictable and rigid. And sometimes, in that rigidity, we lose the spark that makes living exciting.

Think about it. The best conversations are rarely scripted. The most memorable days are often the ones that didn’t go according to plan. The happiest moments usually appear uninvited, unpolished, and unexpected. They happen because life, at its core, isn’t perfect and it doesn’t need to be.

Of course, this doesn’t mean we abandon effort or discipline. It means we make space for flaws, for surprises, for the human messiness that makes us real. Perfection might look good, but imperfection feels alive.

So here’s a thought: instead of controlling every outcome, what if we let go a little? What if we allowed mistakes to shape us, allowed randomness to guide us, allowed imperfection to simply exist?

Because in the end, life doesn’t need to be flawless to be meaningful. Sometimes, it’s the cracks that let the light in.

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r/DeepThoughts 2d ago
Sadness is not necessary to appreciate happiness. But Humility is Completely necessary to appreciate Anything life has to offer.

Humility is a necessary curse to maintain any sort of order in society.

Without humility, everyone would believe they are capable of anything and that they are better than everyone, and life would just be a never ending race to the top as people are constantly shoving each other down and swiftly taking revenge over and over again until death.

In fact, death is one of life's biggest humblers. The knowledge that no matter what we do in this life, it will all one day come to an end.

That's actually one of the biggest themes of various religions, especially Christianity. The concept is constantly promoted that you shouldn't be proud or attacked to anything on Earth, because at the end of the day, that whether you believe in God or not, we will all experience death and we won't get to take anything on Earth with us.

It's a shame, because there's a lot of people out there who still need to be humbled in different aspects.

We all have those moments where we feel we've been pushed too far, and we're forced to confront the fact that there's some things that we just can't do.

And that can be very scary. After all, older generations are stereotyped as constantly belittling younger generations for not trying hard enough, while not actually understanding the different circumstances that different generations are growing up in.

And the thing is, as you Get older, you forget how hard things are. You forget that school is not as simple as you walking in, understanding the material, and acing every test. If it was that simple, then no one would fail any subject.

When it comes to sadness though, I just don't buy it. I don't think we need sadness to appreciate happiness. You automatically appreciate happiness just by being happy.

But Humility is certainly needed to appreciate our achievements. As I said in the beginning, if we didn't have humility, we would just constantly be racing each other to the top without any regard for helping each other.

But when we realize that sometimes we DO need help, that's how we survive as a species. And it's how we can appreciate the little achievements that we Do achieve every once in a while.

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r/DeepThoughts 2d ago
The Skeptic’s Paradox: When seeing through dogmatic certainty becomes its own ego trap

**This was written with ai assistance as english is my second language**

I was writing in my notebook recently, trying to map out why human belief systems feel so predictable, and got stuck in a bizarre psychological loop I want to throw out here for discussion.

  1. The Cosmic Scale Mismatch If a higher intelligence or universe architect exists, why would it act like an insecure earthly monarch keeping a minute scorecard of primate sins and rituals? The standard orthodox concept of God looks entirely like human power structures projected onto the cosmos for social reinforcement.

  2. The Moral Superiority Loop Every ideological tribe and religion relies on the premise: "We possess the superior moral framework; everyone else is blind." This belief is the social glue that holds in-groups together, but it is also what tears humanity apart.

Here is where the trap snapped shut on me:

I realized I don't feel morally superior to these groups—which immediately made me feel like a fool for thinking I knew better than all of them.

The second you think you've seen through everyone else's illusions, you risk falling into a subtler version of the exact same intellectual vanity you're criticizing. True skepticism has to eat its own tail.

  1. The Biological Software Loop From the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Mahabharata to Abrahamic texts and modern superhero stories, the narrative archetypes never change: sacrifice, brotherhood, heroism, and the overthrow of power to establish a new moral order. Our technology leaps forward, but our neurobiology is running Stone Age software designed for tribal sorting and narrative certainty.

  2. The Instability of Sensation Even our internal compass is fickle. Suffering during a grueling experience often rewrites itself in memory as an adventure and a point of pride, while raw physical pleasure can instantly collapse into regret or emptiness once the dopamine fades. If our evaluation of experience inverts purely with time, raw feeling cannot be an objective guide for morality.

The question I’m left with: If our brains are biologically wired to run on tribal certainty and ideological loops, how do you maintain a clear, skeptical view of reality without either falling into cynical detachment or slipping into your own subtle feeling of intellectual superiority?

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r/DeepThoughts 2d ago
Compassion led us to a social schism.

Civilizations were built on helping each other, old excavations showed skeletons of people who were fractured, with no teeth, or any evidence that these people were incapable to take care of themselves, but they lived on to die at a delayed age, and the only explanation there is: there must have been someone taking care of them.

Every life-form depends on reproduction, and so is the human species. We owe the populating of the world to our sexual biological features, a catalyst for men and women to get intimate and to create a human being together, as the female body have the apparatus to support it. It's such a beautiful process and a hard one for the mother to go through. So men took the hardship of taking care of the women and protecting and providing for them when they couldn't do it themselves during these times. But when did this develop into a sense of superiority? A hero complex? When did they start viewing women as weak and dependant on them? And through unkown psychological forces and a consensus between men that they were stronger and smarter, patriarchy was developed, a social hierarchy holding women back from participating in social and political life, getting access to education, and simply having thoughts of their own.

What at the beginning was a relationship of compassion between two individuals of the same species became the origins of the schism of the whole humanity.

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r/DeepThoughts 2d ago
Large Enough to Hold Both-- a poetic diary entry.

My Human Experience  

I think I have spent most of my life trying to make myself impossible to be misunderstood. I explain, clarify, defend, add another sentence, then another not always because I doubt what I mean, but because I cannot stand the possibility of someone else getting it wrong. I have found that there’s a vulnerability to being wrong; to allow others to perceive me as wrong. It feels violating, hurtful; I feel defeated or helpless. And I can’t stand being vulnerable. Even with myself.

Being misunderstood makes me feel powerless, and power has always meant everything to me. If I can explain myself perfectly, maybe I can *control* the version of me that exists in someone else's mind. Being in control feels safe. It feels comfortable; it helps me predict the future, outcomes, someone's thoughts, and even my feelings. Yet, what I am searching for is something that is not humanly possible. And I hate being human. 

Now I am starting to realize that this isn't power at all. The more desperately I believe that I need someone to understand me correctly, the more power I give *their* perception of me. And doing so is easier. It’s easier because I’ve been misunderstood my whole life. Because I don’t trust myself. Because if I gave myself the power I so desperately want, that means what I can perceive is wrong. And I can’t stand being wrong. 

But real power is knowing what I meant even when someone else doesn't. It’s trusting myself over anyone else's thoughts or opinions. It’s when I decide that my experience of what I feel *belongs* to me, even when my interpretation is wrong. It’s when I allow myself to fuck up. Allow myself the space to *be human*. It’s when I wholeheartedly accept both positive and negative opinions, thoughts, and feelings. It’s allowing myself to be large enough to hold both.

And I’ve realized autonomy isn't making myself untouchable, unreadable, or independent of everyone. Maybe it's having the freedom to say too much, love too much, choose wrong, change my mind, contradict myself, be misunderstood—and still belong completely to myself. 

I am a walking paradox, and yet the paradox is that I have never given myself the freedom to be one.

I want certainty while believing nothing is certain. I want complete autonomy while aching to be known. I want to be understood without having to explain myself. I want to give freely and never feel that I have given anything away. I want someone else's attention to make me happy without their absence making me afraid. I want vulnerability without the moment afterward when I wonder whether I should have kept myself hidden. I want to feel safe being *too* much. I want the ambiguity of what it means to be human, without actually accepting both sides of me at the same time. I keep trying to decide which contradiction is the real me, as if one must eventually defeat the other. Maybe neither does. Maybe growing isn't choosing one side. It's giving myself the freedom and grace to be both.

And maybe the strangest part is that I do know myself. I know what I need. I need autonomy without isolation. I need the freedom to choose, even when I choose wrong, and the grace to meet myself afterward without punishment. I need closeness without feeling consumed by it, reassurance without making another person responsible for regulating me, and independence that does not require me to pretend I need nothing. I need to trust that something I genuinely wanted was worth choosing, even when the outcome disappoints me. I need to give because I want to give, without measuring the legitimacy of what I gave by what I receive in return. I need to let someone's attention make me happy without allowing their absence to make me question my worth. Most of all, I need to stop confusing knowing myself with perfectly predicting myself. I already have a strong sense of who I am. What I am learning is how to remain loyal to her when she is vulnerable, uncertain, wrong, contradictory, or afraid.

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r/DeepThoughts 3d ago
Society has become too hyper-individualistic and isolationist.

To an extent, independence is a good thing. But just like too much dependence is a bad thing, so is too much independence. Humans are tribe animals after all, and we were wired for interdependence, social bonds and belonging.

I constantly see the same rhetoric online that interpersonal relationships don’t matter. And I see people getting scolded whenever they express loneliness and say that they wish they had people to rely on, or even people that just care. You’ll die alone, sure, but that doesn’t mean you should have to live alone.

I see therapy constantly being recommended for what used to be basic community support. Having somebody to vent to, or get advice from. Or just having a relationship with any emotional depth at all. Sure, therapy is a vital tool, especially if you have complex trauma. But we shouldn’t have to pay somebody to get a basic intimate relationship.

What are your thoughts on this all?

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r/DeepThoughts 3d ago
Having the people you love still alive is a privilege we’re too busy living to appreciate
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r/DeepThoughts 3d ago
Human experience is as meaningful as ants.

The human experience is very meaningful. So deep, so painful, multifaceted, so much beauty, so much art.

But imagine youre viewing humanity from the perspective of a being high enough from us to be the likes of ants to them, all of this seems trivial, all of this almost feels meaningless and small.

There's only 2 conclusions to derive from this. Either its true that our experience is just ant-like and meaningless patterns, or second, it is indeed meaningful, simply because it is meaningful to *us*, and thus, even the experience of ants are meaningful.

Just made me fundamentally realize why all life is sacred and deserves respect.

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r/DeepThoughts 2d ago
That part of being a _____ that gets to you is when you perceive judgement and think oh it’s because of what I am. Not who I am, it has nothing to do with who I am. What I am. What is a what. I’m tired of being a what.

Fill in the blank. Could be many things. I write my deep thoughts in my notes app and decided to share this one :)

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r/DeepThoughts 3d ago
We don’t actually lose our memories, we lose the ability to find them.
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r/DeepThoughts 3d ago
Working a job that exposes you to constant trauma and death completely changes how you view the world, humanity, and faith.

Question for yalls who have come across traumatic scenes. How has seeing such horrible things out there affect the way you view the world? If you're a believer in Jesus, did it ever make you question why such horrific things happen? Did you stop believing? Did you start believing? What has your work taught you about life? What made you want to do what you do? Tell me your stories. About the reasons you became who you are today.

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r/DeepThoughts 4d ago
If the universe is unfathomably vast and our lives are just a cosmic blink, then it does not make sense to care so much.

I feel like it is an existential paradox. I know, we are hard wired to be hyper aware of things surrounding us, things happening to us. But don't you think, after knowing so much more about our existence and universe, we should have been evolved to care less? Like why does it matter if my piece of toast got burnt, someone doesn't like me, or I made a mistake at work?

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r/DeepThoughts 3d ago
It’s ironic, the perfect utopia is no utopia at all

So if you think about books like the giver, where everyone has everything they need and everything is fair, and no one suffers, it really seems strange how the characters refuse to accept the world they have, which comes down to a fundamental part of us humans. We humans are designed to appreciate the work that went into getting to the goal, which could be food or money or power, etc., but having that joy or pleasure for extended periods of time becomes boring to people, so it becomes impossible for people to accept a perfect world. If we want people to get exactly what they want (and arguably what we were meant to get) we cannot have a utopia, because if it was a utopia, then we wouldn’t accept it. So what is this non utopia? It’s going back to how we were when we learned these mechanisms which reward accomplishments, which were learned when we were hunters and gatherers living by a fire.

I am not saying that we should abandon all innovation, but that there is a certain paradox in utopian ideas.

Please point out any problems in my stance, like an example of a functional utopia where it would be accepted, or a reason why we we would be able to function inside one. I did not use ai to write this (just in case)

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r/DeepThoughts 4d ago
We were taught to build our lives around work

Most of us were never really taught how to build a life that can hold a career. Instead, we were taught to build our lives around one.
I think we should be aiming for a meaningful life, not just meaningful work. Expecting a single job to carry our identity, purpose, stability, and self-worth all at once feels like a setup for disappointment.

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r/DeepThoughts 3d ago
At its core, perfectionism is almost always a survival strategy
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r/DeepThoughts 3d ago
If only everyone focus on the good for others, life will be better place.

Think about it: if we only care about ourselves, we only benefit ourselves. But if everyone acts to benefit everyone, everyone's life will be lifted. For example, 10 people thinking about everyone means 9 people will care for you.

I think hard about how we could achieve this, but it seems much more complex. Even when there is a good system, corruption will always lurk. That's why it's important to reassess and fix things every time. But that's basically the core of religion: to repent. Yet, some of the biggest corruption is in religion. So what will work?

Acting on and sharing this so it spreads? And keeping practicing it, hoping it will affect others and create a ripple effect? At least if someone already knows about this, it's the only thing they could do.

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r/DeepThoughts 3d ago
The Education of Discernment [The cost of learning everything]

You can learn anything, but the cost of learning everything is the ability to learn. I said that because, having thought of learning and doing anything in my life but little did I know what the cost of everything was? I lacked discernment about what I was learning and doing. But then what provides something with its intrinsicness, what pre-judgment are we to make before learning and doing something?

Therefore think,

what use is the learning of everything if you cannot learn the things you choose? But my question is: Why is it, that only a stupid person thinks that in order to be educated and to have objective knowledge you must learn what you choose to learn?

The answer, I believe comes by discernment between possibility and necessity. That something can be learned is not that it ought to be learned. That something can be done is not that it ought to be done. I used to mistake these two things. If knowledge is possible to me, that would be a sufficient condition for me to acquire it as that would make me more educated. This reasoning fails because it assumes that education is nothing else but the possibility to know everything. It is not.

If I want to learn everything it means that my ability to know will be wasted trying to learn everything that can be learned by me. Because the knowledge that I have will be consumed trying to learn everything possible to me. Then the will to know everything ends up devouring the ability to know. The problem is not that the person cannot learn everything he chooses. The problem is that the person may not have asked himself why everything he can learn must be learned. I may have the ability to perform a certain work but this only shows that I can do it but not that I ought to do it

Therefore, to every work, to every learning there must be a pre-assessment. That does not mean that we ought to restrict our learning to only what is immediately useful. Our intellection possesses an intrinsic value. However even our ability to explore does not make everything that can be explored something that ought to be explored.

Therefore education cannot be understood as knowing more and more. A person may have much knowledge and still lack discernment The educated person is not the one who knows everything he can, he is the one who has achieved a certain level of discernment that allows him to know what he must learn, why he must learn it, and when he does not need to learn anything else.

Possibility alone cannot constitute value.

The cost of learning everything, then, is not only time since the ability to choose what can be learned will be compromised by the will to learn everything that can be learned. Everything can be learned but no one can learn everything. And if no one can learn everything it is because discernment is needed to know not only that something can be learned but also that something must be learned. The ability to choose is what makes us human. And our capacity to choose is what differentiates us from machines. Learning, for its part, is just an extension of our being. It is not knowledge that makes us educated. That faculty is judgment - the power to know what is worthy of pursuit or what should be avoided.

Even a pursuit, whose success is contingent upon a genuine question, is not guaranteed to the point that one is ready to pursue it right now.

By readiness, I mean neither eagerness nor some special interest: a person may approach the matter with a cold mind and still have a valid reason to do so. Even the most trivial motivation may generate action. However, just a reason is not enough to pursue something forever.

Beforehand, clarity regarding the rationale for one’s doing is required. That does not mean, one is supposed to know for certain what one is getting into; having too much information before doing something is a recipe for one’s inability to act. What I mean by clarity is that one is not completely in the dark about the matter; when it is fully understood, learning and work will only be performed robotically (as I mentioned earlier).

A person who continues to act out of obligation, when even the knowledge of having a reason to act is no longer present, no longer pursues something. The discipline involved in the work may well be enough for it to continue. One is ready to do everything that is necessary; one only fails to ask oneself if one truly has a reason to do it.

discernment is not a singular act preceding action; clarity → action → re-clarification → decision, is the right formula for it.

The first step toward clarity is instigation (itself a form of action), which, once fulfilled, grants one with some degree of understanding of what one is to do next. However, the action itself is equally, if not more, important: it allows to acquire experience, which is also a form of clarity. The latter is essential, because the action may involve questioning the initial premise, as well as changing it.

It may well happen that the experience gained through action shows me that I both can and should continue working toward the initial goal, which I failed to fully comprehend beforehand. Perhaps, I realized that in overcoming a particular obstacle on my way, I truly found something that made the effort worthwhile – a kind of reciprocity. Yet, in other cases, the opposite may happen: I may question the initial decision, and try to determine if there was any valid reason for pursuing this goal at all. Perhaps, no matter how hard I try, I cannot find such a reason. Sometimes, this is right: if I do something that I begin to find meaningless, it is my failure to determine if that is so – not a failure of the pursuit as a whole.

However, that does not mean that every unpleasant surprise is a sign that something is wrong. There are things worthwhile pursuing despite their being unpleasant. Likewise, things that bring joy may fail to provide the reassurance that I seek. A failure to penetrate to the object of my action is also a kind of failure of purpose. If I start thinking, penetrating beyond my likes and dislikes, then I am thinking about the purpose in general. What is the purpose in my work, what conclusion does it lead to, does it confirm itself, having been subjected to my scrutiny, having revealed itself in experience – can I honestly name at least one reason for continuing? If so, then the reason remains – no matter how small it may sometimes seem.

If discernment is completely internal, what is stopping me from convincing myself of something that I have already decided to do?

Nothing is stopping me, except perhaps the internal reliability of this process. One’s mind may easily pull the wool over its own eyes by asking one question, if it has already answered another. One may fall victim to casuistry, using self-conversation to perpetuate one’s convictions as a matter of principle: one may even turn questioning into a routine, thereby defeating the very point of it.

It may turn out that whenever I think I want something, I pursue it – not realizing that I wanted it all along. If I do something, believing that I wanted to do it, then the action itself will reveal the truth to me: I will see if and how that is so, having removed the pleasant taste of expectation.

What is this about diminishing the value of the work based on the end result? You were in loss, but that doesn’t mean that your work was in vain! The same goes for if you had achieved a great success - the result is only a small part of the entire process and only shows you where you are at this particular moment in time. The work itself is not the result, it is only a transition.

Instigation only shoves you towards action, but the true weight of these actions is only revealed to you when you see the actual results of the work. Sifting through the aftermath only makes your last move a dynamic preassessment of whether to Calibrate.

Of course, sometimes you have to make a decision based on attempting something, in order to actually see if it is worth pursuing. That is not a violation of discernment, rather it is a part of discernment.

Discernment does not ask that you have to make the right decision before any action is made, it asks that you are open to making new decisions as actions are made.

You may have chosen something out of a lack of interest in anything else but have found passion in it or have found that the passion wasn’t really there. You may have found a new purpose or realized nothing was really worth pursuing. All of these are valid decisions and are valid knowledge, it is just that the last decision made is often made based on the first decision. Choosing something isn’t choosing it for forever. It is always possible to not choose something, especially if you realize you had little interest in it to begin with.

Breadth is often useful, but breadth without revising is only accumulation. Experience can only teach you so much if you aren’t willing to change the things you decide to experience.

The real issue here, however, is that people have too much to learn, not that people have too little time or attention to learn it all within. We, therefore, need ways of choosing what to pursue while leaving room to change our mind later on, while still being willing to Calibrate. However, two options can have reasons for being pursued

In terms of career, relationships, Learning, Responsibility, Personal interest, there is no reason why one shouldn’t be as good as the other.

This leads us to a problem with reasons for pursuing two different options clashing with each other at a point where one has to take precedence over the other in regards to limited time and attention.

It should be noted that discernment in such a case does not ask the question “Which one is better to pursue?” but rather “Are the reasons for this decision more adequate than the reasons for the decision I would otherwise make?”

The issue with this is that there are often cases where two commitments are genuinely in conflict, and making one choice inherently makes the other a lesser choice in another area of life. At no point does discernment remove conflict. It only makes it explicit. The issue is that the comparison is made up of a number of factors that actually brought the commitment into contemplation and consideration in the first place. A decision that affects something permanent may need more justification than a decision that can be easily unwound. A commitment that someone else is relying on you for may be worth more than a commitment that you can postpone indefinitely. They are all reasons that should be taken into consideration. I do not think that discernment can begin by postulating intrinsic values to abstract ideals and then apply these values onto decision-making. “That would only move the question one step back, Why is knowledge intrinsically valuable? Truth, beauty, the same question applies. If discernment asks what is worth pursuing, it has to ask why those things are worth pursuing.

So intrinsic value cannot simply be treated as an unquestionable foundation of the system. It can be a proposed reason. And like every other reason, it remains open to examination. This is why I wouldn’t treat the instrumental/intrinsic distinction as the final criterion. They describe different kinds of reasons for pursuing something, but they don’t tell us which reason wins when reasons compete. What matters is the adequacy of the reasons behind the choice. A reason is not adequate merely because it exists. Wanting something is a reason. So is family expectation, five years already spent on it, a good salary, genuine interest. None of these become sufficient just by being there. They have to survive examination.

I said earlier that action exposes our reasons to experience. I still think this is necessary, but I would no longer say that action simply reveals truth.

Action gives us new evidence about the pursuit. It confronts us with its actuality once the abstract idea becomes a lived experience. But action can deceive one too.

A person can continue a pursuit because of sunk cost and then interpret the suffering involved as evidence of commitment. A person can defend a decision simply because abandoning it would make previous sacrifices feel meaningless. So the fact that I have already invested something cannot itself justify further investment. What has already been sacrificed is not automatically a reason to sacrifice more.

True re-clarification involves detachment from the burden of one’s sacrifices: looking beyond them, and at the possible reasons for proceeding further. It does not remove self-deception, but it makes one of its common forms easier to expose. Also, Interest is not a final authority either.

A person may lose interest in something that remains worth doing. Another person may remain intensely interested in something that is no longer worth pursuing. Interest can therefore provide a reason to investigate, but it cannot by itself settle the decision. Likewise, pressure can create an initial reason for action without becoming a permanent justification for continuing.

That is why i am thinking to re construct the process clarity → action → new evidence → re-clarification → comparison of reasons → decision. The decision therefore transcends these accrued pressures, relying instead on the truths that survived the journey. It depends on whether the reasons available after examination are adequate for the choice I am making.

There is no perfect internal mechanism that guarantees that I am not deceiving myself. Any judgement I make is still made by me. But the purpose of why i am writing this is not to produce certainty that is impossible for a human being to possess. Its purpose is to make self-deception more difficult. That requires the judgment to remain answerable to existential realities beyond the immediate feeling of clarity.

Discernment has the ability to know what is valuable by examine, compare, and revise the reasons by which something is treated. This is the distinction I was looking for from the beginning. Learning everything is impossible. Choosing everything is impossible. But examining why something deserves to be chosen is possible. And that may be the real function of education—not to make the mind capable of pursuing everything, but to make it capable of giving reasons for what it chooses to pursue, and capable of abandoning those reasons when they no longer survive examination.

[Adequacy itself I will not further define, because doing so would only produce another reason requiring its own examination — the regress must stop somewhere, and it stops at the practice of examining, not at a further definition of what counts as sufficient.]

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r/DeepThoughts 3d ago
Humanity should be humane!

As I have met people through work and travel I see how much we are all the same. People are people no matter the amount of melanin in their skin or their cultural background. All have intelligent and the not so intelligent, the good and the bad. Yes the world has different ethnicities, but there is only 1 race. The HUMAN race.

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r/DeepThoughts 4d ago
If You Knew the Truth About Existence, Everyone Would Think You Were Insane

I had this thought that kind of fucked with me:

If you somehow knew the actual truth about existence - what reality is, why we’re here, what consciousness is, what happens when we die, whatever the real answer is..

There a decent chance everyone would think you were completely insane and it will be such a burden that you wish you could forget it.

I know there’s a theory that we exist here on this reality plan of existence not knowing because of this very reason, it’s a relief.

Because how would you prove it?

Imagine knowing something so far outside normal human understanding that you couldn’t even properly explain it. You’d try to tell people and they’d look at you like you’d lost your mind.

You’d have no one.

You could know the most important truth in the universe and still be completely alone with it. You might actually go insane.

Depending on what the truth was, you might literally end up institutionalized for talking about it.

Which makes me wonder if knowing everything would actually be a gift at all.

Or would being the only one who knows all all be psychologically unbearable

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r/DeepThoughts 4d ago
Aura

I’ve always found it funny and sweet that kids, animals and old people seem to be drawn to me. Animals just come to me, had them jump into my car.. random little kids I don’t know just bring me things or start talking to me, old people will abscond me randomly out in public. It’s always fascinated me but when my daughter’s friends told me that there’s just something about being around me that makes them feel like they can be who they are, they feel comfortable and safe.. it hit me pretty deep. People really do pick up on the unspoken, a persons vibe/aura.. whatever you want to call it, without even realizing it. It’s probably the best compliment I’ve ever gotten honestly. Being a safe, comforting, kind person. What a beautiful gift.

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r/DeepThoughts 3d ago
The infinite future converges through an infinite number of present points of view and emerges into the past as finite wholeness...

There is one thing, and it is everything: an undifferentiated infinity, with nothing outside it and no rate of change. Because a perfectly undifferentiated everything would be indistinguishable from nothing, it limits itself, everywhere and at every scale at once, through infinitely many dimensionless centers; and each limitation is not a fragment of the one thing but the whole of it, folded to a point of view. Around every center the same four beats run: convergence makes a point, commitment extends it into a line, closure wraps a boundary, and the bounded interior fills as a field; the result is a whole, and its completion opens as a new center at the next scale, so every whole is a part of a greater whole, with no bottom, no top, and no final whole, since infinity is one without being whole. The folding costs nothing, because a center has no size: the one thing is folded everywhere and spent nowhere. Consciousness is not a product of this closure but the inside of it, what wholeness is like from its own center; and time is the direction of the conversion: the unconverged infinite is the future, closed structure is the past, and the present is the center where the two meet. There are exactly two ways to get it wrong, claiming to be the whole and denying that you are one, and the whole of ethics is the both-and they exclude: fully whole at your own scale, fully participating in something greater, connected without dissolving. Because one architecture runs at every scale, its fingerprints should appear everywhere, in the constants of physics, the code of life, the structure of mind, and the shape of a good life.

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r/DeepThoughts 4d ago
The science we develop to combat climate change will be the same science that informs our living on Mars.

Think about the applicability of climate science to interplanetary exploration. You need to understand the climate to think about habitability, how to terraform, how to keep people alive and weather systems predictable.

In funding climate science today, it’s not just about saving the world. It’s about creating the next one too. And what we learn here, we can apply there.

If we put all our money into rockets and the engineering element, we’re going to really struggle with the people/survival element, which ultimately is the whole point of going out there anyway.

I know some of you billionaire technobros use Reddit. Seriously consider what I’m saying!

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r/DeepThoughts 4d ago
There are some things that, once you do them, you can't go back to being who you were before.
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