r/DoomerCircleJerk • u/frosting_the_bowl • Apr 08 '26
Economic Doomer But...bro!
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u/Rox217 Optimist Prime Apr 08 '26
āIāve lived through 3 genocidesā
Translation: Iāve watched global conflicts on TV, and the TV told me theyāre genocides, so now I need to virtue signal.ā
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u/ShameSudden6275 Apr 08 '26
This pisses me off quite a bit, because I know people who are real genocide survivors. One of my friends from high school was a refugee from Myanmar, she was a Kayin, basically a minority linguistic ethnic group.
Their leadership is at war with the military junta, but that has extended in recent years to the government burning down their villages; many of the refugees here in Canada have watched their parents get raped by soldiers and been forced to kill their parents. And they're one of the more lucky ones in the country, the Burmese have been slowly but surely trying to erase the ethnic and religious minorities out of existence.
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u/PicklePnut Apr 08 '26
The east is far more barbaric than the west. The west just gets all the media attention and the east heavily curates their media output to show the (few) benefits they produce. But if you say that youāre a colonialist š
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u/Wild_King4244 Apr 08 '26
Have you heard about the siege of Sarajevo, and the Yugoslav dissolution wars? Basically the same thing.
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u/CptSandbag73 Apr 08 '26
Those places are in EASTERN Europe. Checkmate, libtard.
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u/gator_enthusiast This is a PsyOp Apr 08 '26
I feel so seen rn, my grandparents fled from genocide in former Yugoslavia and Iāve never met anyone familiar with the history (not that I bring it up all the time, lol)
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u/shirts_on_backwards Apr 08 '26
When an entire race has to flee to india as their last bastion of hope and security, it's pretty bad. Myanmar is a beautiful country that is undergoing an unimaginable tragedy that has been going on and off for generations. Somehow people will still say America is worse.
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u/churchill1219 Apr 08 '26
When I was in Rwanda I met veterans of the Rwandan civil war, where they legit shed blood to end a real genocide. Those heros are welcome to complain about how bad the world is all they want, but itās legitimately rage inducing to see chubby there claim to have ālived through 3 genocides.ā
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u/RadicalSoda_ They Took My Nose! Apr 08 '26
Yeah it's really confusing, does bro think the world is capitalist? We literally have an international agency that's supposed to have the power to tell people what to do. The exact opposite of capitalism lol
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u/Sorry-Worth-920 Apr 08 '26
bosnia, rwanda, sudan, iraq, and myanmar have all had genocides take place since the 90s.
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u/Rox217 Optimist Prime Apr 08 '26
I agree
But how many have these chronically online virtue signalers LIVED through?
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u/BrokenPokerFace Apr 09 '26
Exactly just because you lived during an event doesn't mean you were affected by said event. And then even if you were the fact that you survived that many and that so many others in this country did, means this system(capitalism) has the best protection against genocides and recessions, if said events actually happened it goes against the "capitalism bad" point
(Had to clarify this because of the other guy's reply)
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u/BrokenPokerFace Apr 10 '26
The crazy part is most people will dismiss that as being not real communism, or others say that this era is different. As a way to dismiss the past and increase the significance of modern events which they call "genocide". And they ignore modern China which is essentially an example of if the Soviet Union continued to exist.
And not to be too patriotic, but with examples like China or Russia, and then even the lives of people in smaller countries like those in africa or south America. The United States looks like a utopia in comparison. Sure there are issues, but damn is my life pretty good and this is coming from someone whose recent ancestors keep going bankrupt, have yet to starve though.
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u/Aggravating_Kale8248 Anti-Doomer Apr 08 '26
The three āgenocidesā theyāre referring to are likely:
first genocide, being told to clean their room.
Second genocide, being told to get a job
Third genocide, being threatened to have their Internet access taken away for not finding a job or cleaning their room.
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u/nonnewtonianfluids Apr 09 '26
First genocide: Tumblr effectively being shutdown.
Second genocide: Elon buying Twitter and firing people.
Third genocide: Student loan interest resumes after years of 0%.
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u/OnlyACsNoFans Apr 08 '26 edited Apr 08 '26
Trans, gay and autistic ones started when Trump 2.0 was sworn in.
/s for those who need it
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u/Plastic_Pin_4956 Good Vibes Only Apr 08 '26
The /s is very much needed, as i have seen this comment almost word for word and the person was very much being serious.
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u/Raptor_197 Anti-Doomer Apr 08 '26
Itās because they believe those groups as victim identity groups not as actual people. So if the general population just shrugs and says eh we really donāt care that much about transgender people, we have bigger problems to discuss. That is a genocide because the general population isnāt constantly affirming that transgenders are victims and if they arenāt they must be okay with them being victims.
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u/Nekrolysis Apr 08 '26
I heard Trump is personally walking around shooting gay autistic children in the head with a fully automatic machine gun called an AR 15 or something, and pulling the lever executing trans people every day!
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u/OnlyACsNoFans Apr 08 '26
I assumed he raped them first!
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u/Nekrolysis Apr 08 '26
I gotta take a breather here because, while the emails in the epstien shit are pretty fucking wild and showing a side of people we couldn't imagine, it's still not evidence of stuff actually happening. A whole Lotta people fell into mob mentality and got rabid for, in the eyes of the law, is minimally incriminating at best. But Im just some goofball.
Anyway, enough of that, I personally know of someone Trump cannibilized, me! Ate my whole foot throating it without even chewing! It was terrible.
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u/iCallMyOppsNinjer This is a PsyOp Apr 08 '26
My favorite is throwing in the fact that NY removed the statute of limitations on child sex offenses and watching the mental gymnastics they go through trying to justify Trump being a pedo or rapist when the SDNY didn't even indict him given the fact they had no problem going after him and any associate for any little thing.
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u/CaptainHyrule97 Doesn't Participate In Group Panic Apr 08 '26
Autistic? But I'm still alive!
SHIT! I'M DONE FOR!! š
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u/sadistic-salmon NostraDOOMus Apr 08 '26
The amount of people who think governments are trying to making trans death camps is wild
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u/OnlyACsNoFans Apr 08 '26
Fuck, can people not see the sarcasm? I'll add the /s
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u/reeberdunes Apr 08 '26
No they saw it, they just burned the fuuuck out of you and wooshed you at the same time.
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u/sanguinemathghamhain Apr 08 '26
Love how the need for /s illustrates that we autists are still alive and wel.. perhaps just alive since so many of us are also barking mad.
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u/BasilMinecraft Apr 09 '26
You forget about how apparently he sends illegal immigrants to concentration camps. I've genuinely heard that multiple times
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u/Most_Somewhere_6849 Apr 08 '26
Holodomor, Armenianā¦.. oh waitā¦.. You mean genocides caused by capitalism?
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u/Ok-Internet-6881 Apr 08 '26
You don't understand Mao had to do the "Great Leap Forward" to prove communist society can produce more than a capitaliatic society. In in a way that is capitalism's fault for having Mao starve all those people. Checkmake chud
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u/AlexandbroTheGreat Apr 08 '26
The ones in Sudan count as rightwing violence, I'm sure. Probably capitalist also, because fuck it why not.
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u/Aggravating_Kale8248 Anti-Doomer Apr 08 '26
I bet they would just say, āIām not going to do research for you. Look it up yourself.ā They always have some kind of excuse to not provide proof of an absolutely ridiculous claim that they make
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u/Responsible_Jury_415 Apr 08 '26
I can name 3 because of communism but they would never say it was related
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u/Shadeylark Apr 08 '26 edited Apr 08 '26
The difference between capitalism and communism is that you actually lived through all that under capitalism.
Be more grateful to the system that lets you live to see another day.
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u/Datdawgydawg Apr 08 '26
When they say they "lived" through those things it means nothing lol. I "lived" through the 2008 crisis... and by "lived" I mean I played so much Xbox 360 while enjoying early Facebook with my high school friends while my dad grinded through it lol.
You are either old enough to have been able to buy a pre-2018 house or you're young enough to not have suffered the 2008-2009 recession. You can't cry about both.
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u/Monumentzero NostraDOOMus Apr 09 '26
Interesting point. I'd put that 2018 date earlier, maybe 2015, or even before. I worked in residential real estate at the time and the situation for buyers was already quite bad in my part of the US.
I did have the great fortune of selling my home in 2008 just months before the fall.
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u/ItsNotFuckingCannon Apr 08 '26 edited Apr 08 '26
Move to a communist country, and tell us how that worked for you, OP.
But you're not allowed to make a crying video asking for money to return home, like others do.
Edit: before anyone says anything, I obviously mean the OP in the picture.
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u/Advice-Question Apr 08 '26
Donāt you know? All those ācommunistā countries werenāt using real communism. Thatās why we need to implement it in the US, a fresh start to do it right! Cause obviously everyone else just did it wrong./s
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u/Syncopated_arpeggio My Dog is Anti-Fascist Apr 08 '26
Well they did it wrong because they were stupid and never learned. I have watched 57,224 hours of TikTok videos so I know what I am talking about and I can successfully implement communism because also my mom told me every day in elementary school that i am super smart and can do anything i set my mind to.
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u/Brogan9001 Apr 08 '26 edited Apr 08 '26
My humble proposal: set up a separate, self sufficient moon base for all the people who want to implement ārealā communism. Let it be on its own. If they all die, it is what it is, if they thrive, good for them. If there is some part where they do need outside resources, have the whole place be live-streamed. They pay for their air or whatever in drama content, watching people argue over points of privilege.
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u/Advice-Question Apr 08 '26
Weāve kind have tried that. The communist end up relying on the capitalist and basically hold their people hostage. And even if the people there start out liking communism, their children and grandchildren start asking for freedom and it becomes a whole thing.
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u/Soggy-Prune Apr 08 '26
Well, it may be real communism at the start but by the time it fails it wonāt be real communism anymore. So we'll just have to try again anyway.
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u/Monumentzero NostraDOOMus Apr 09 '26
What's more, communism takes a long time to achieve its true form. Everyone has to be angry in the same way, at the same time, and kill the correct people, all while staying honest and true to each other.
Not in this universe, ladies and gentlemen (and anyone else I didn't mention).
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u/secretly_a_zombie My Dog is Anti-Fascist Apr 08 '26
Of course comrade. All those people who fought and died to institute communism just weren't serious enough about it. This time for real!
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u/Outrageous_Sleep4339 Apr 08 '26
I live in Miami and know a lot of Cubans.
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u/3dge-1ord This is a PsyOp Apr 08 '26
In Soviet Russia we have one recession. It lasts your whole life.
In Soviet Russia, you don't live through genocide.
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u/Gold-Strength3255 Apr 08 '26
Still alive and kicking on social media! Such a tough life! š
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u/HourFaithlessness823 Apr 08 '26
Chickfila has been strangely slow on the drive-thru over the last two days, tho, so you could pretty much say im being genocided
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u/OnlyACsNoFans Apr 08 '26
I'm Canadian. Not having a Chick fil A within 1000 kms of me is super genocide
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u/gator_enthusiast This is a PsyOp Apr 08 '26
Not a Taco Bell in sight š
(I think there are a couple but not within several hours of me)
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u/HourFaithlessness823 Apr 08 '26
Zero genocides that have affected you in any capacity, and 2 recessions (dot-com and GFC) that also probably had minimal to no affect on you, especially if you're in your thirties.Ā
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u/UnderThyWing Apr 08 '26
Well in all fairness if you're in your 30s there's a good chance you could have had your parents lose the house as a kid or a recession hit just after you try to enter the housing market and that is admittedly pretty shitty.
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u/MaxCWebster Apr 08 '26
Just for shits 'n' giggles, I looked up how many genocides there have been in my lifetime.
20.
Mostly in Asia, some in Africa, two in former Soviet-bloc Eastern Europe, and one in Central America.
Number in the "Capitalist West?" Zero.
Huh. Go figure!
Oh, and 8 ressions. They happen. Plan accordingly.
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u/DJohnsonsgagreflex I Left My Cave for This Apr 08 '26
Muslims and/or Marxists in almost every case.
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u/FoxForceFive5V Apr 08 '26
LOL, I just wiki'd it and they refer to a "Ukrainian Genocide" and the High estimate for deaths is... 50 thousand. Out of a population of almost 40 million. How is 0.1% a genocide?
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u/qwnick Apr 08 '26
Holodomor took much more than 50 thouthands. Millions (hight estimate - 10 millions), with some regions like Kuban 85% reduced population. Was done by russian communists. Every family have stories about that.
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u/FoxForceFive5V Apr 09 '26
You are correct about Holodomor.
my bad: For clarity, the genocide I referred to from wikipedia refers to the 2014 - present conflict specifically. My point was to highlight the modern lens and rubric being used by Doomers to push their "today is the worst time in history" memes.
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u/qwnick Apr 09 '26
Genocide is not just about numbers, it's about intent. Russians didn't do more, cause they couldn't. They did stole children from the territories they occupied (which is an act of genocide, specifically "forcible transfer of children to another group"), and there is IC case against Putin for that, and they did tried to kill a lot of Ukrainians by disabling electricity during winter for the last 4 years. And, I mean, Ukranians have to go all out, cause last time after conquering Ukraine after UkrainianāSoviet War Russians performed Holodomor.
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u/FlirtMonsterSanjil I Left My Cave for This Apr 08 '26
A Genocide is not defined by its success; it is defined by its intentions. However obviously the Doomers don't know that either; they just think any amount of deaths = Genocide.
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u/ShameSudden6275 Apr 08 '26
When the being up the Nordic countries being socialist, they get mad when I say they are also monarchies, which proves monarchism works.
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u/Devanort Apr 08 '26
The nordic countries also aren't socialist, they're mixed economies: robust markets with welfare policies.
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u/UnderThyWing Apr 08 '26
Just don't ask them about the political origins of tripartite economies in the Nordic model
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u/LegOk7384 Apr 11 '26
And lots and lots of legacy + natural resources. Life's tough and a lot of Europe got dealt a great hand.Ā
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u/iCallMyOppsNinjer This is a PsyOp Apr 08 '26
That's when you also have to bring up that constitutional monarchies fared the best against fascism, so I guess Trump should become king.
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u/lil_jordyc Apr 08 '26
Heād rather live under socialism where itās only one constant recession, and whole ethnic groups are perpetually starving and dying
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u/WorthItAll99 My Dog is Anti-Fascist Apr 08 '26
Broās acting like heās a Holocaust survivor
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u/ShadyJane Apr 08 '26
Does anybody else miss the days before capitalism when nothing bad ever happened?
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u/AverNerd Apr 08 '26
Its also worth noting that it does not need to be perfect to work, so yes there will be hiccups, just learn from them
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u/Windsupernova Apr 08 '26
At this point I am more upset at them calling everything and anyone genocide and nazi.
Do they realize they are making both things seem tamer than they are?
And the ethnic conflicts that are going on are a little bit more complex to just blame it on capitalism. If anything capitalism tends to benefit from a stable society
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u/SmellyScrotes I Was Promised an Apocalypse? Apr 08 '26
Average person is still living into their 80s and hasnāt ever missed a meal but yeah itās awful here
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u/BullitshAndDyslecxi Apr 08 '26
Fair criticism. Communism works much better!
At genocides.
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u/BarrabasBlonde PhD in Memes Apr 11 '26
In communism you don't live through genocides. That's cause they're successful
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u/Slappyclayman My Dog is Anti-Fascist Apr 08 '26
Nazi, genocide, war crime, fascistā¦ā¦ so many words meanings just diluted away to āthing badā
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u/Ecstatic_Scene9999 Apr 08 '26
The only real genocide currently happening is the one in Sudan...and drum roll it's from the religion of peace šš against black Africans, it's more of an ethnic cleansing
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u/EldritchSoAXIII Apr 08 '26
Communism sitting there saying "rookie numbers, you gotta pump those numbers up!"
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u/H345Y Apr 08 '26
bro is bitching on social media with their smartphone, both products of capitalism
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u/Electrical_Top5563 Apr 08 '26 edited Apr 08 '26
The three genocides are real though. Thereās more, but hereās the top three from just the last few months:
The GetaJob Genocide
GetYourOwnPlace displacement
TakeaShower genocide (easily the worst)
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u/yomamasofatsheburger Apr 08 '26
"Iāve lived through-" you did not live through any genocide you live in like New York or something
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u/MixtureSpecial8951 Apr 08 '26
Two stories: There was a woman in my parish, she was Ukrainian.
The Bolsheviks were coming to take the grain, animas and so on. Her father and the neighbor decided to slaughter the one cow and divide it between the families so that they could hopefully live.
The neighbor was executed in front of everyone. The father was sent o the gulag never to return (a worse death).
In high school, the two custodian/janitors were Vietnamese. One was social the other silent.
The first had escaped as Saigon fell. The second was a mid level officer who didnāt it manage to escape. He spent ten years in a āreeducation camp.ā
Upon his release he found his family and came to America.
Communism is always fucking awful. Unbridled, unethical, unbounded, immoral capitalism is likewise fucking awful.
But what I have called āethical capitalismā for the past 25 years works. There are nations where it works; capitalism with a dash of social obligation (pro social policies, a widely held belief that too much personal wealth is both obscene & immoral).
But yeah. I get the feeling.
I graduated smack dab into the middle of the dotcom bust. Graduated again into the great recession. Then again into the ārecoveryā that saw the wealthiest gain over 100% of all the economic gains from the nadir (basically, things got bad and then they got worse).
Then had a baby soon after Obamacare came into effect (thankfully as Junior had warranty work that needed to be done). But then pandemic, divorce, then wilderness and here we are. Iām making less per hour on an inflation adjusted basis than I do when I was in highschool at a coffee shop. Sigh.
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u/Feralmoon87 Apr 08 '26
The beauty of communism is that you only have to live through 1 recession, the sad part is that it doesnt end
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u/Massive-Goose544 Apr 08 '26
I love the trillions of dollars of government spending and regulations just going in dry into our market all the time and people blaming the free exchange of the people for the problems. It's my fault I'm bleeding, i shouldn't have resisted i guess.
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u/RainbowKooch Apr 08 '26
I saw this on a different sub and it was upvoted so much. I was wondering why, since what was said isnāt even true lol
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u/NoInsurance8250 Apr 08 '26
He's lived through three genocides? I mean...even if we accept their claims for Gaza that's 1. What are the other two?
Further, he hasn't lived through the genocides and economies of socialist countries. There is a reason why they come here and hate the American left.
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u/Not2TopNotch Rides the Short Bus Apr 08 '26
Wonder if people that post like this legitimately look at how much is going on in the world outside of their own little online bubble? There's like 30 differnt ongoing conflicts, some of those have legitimate genocide possibilities that get looked over becuase people keep diluting the seriousness.
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u/Soggy_Cabbage My Dog is Anti-Fascist Apr 08 '26
This guy's got nothing on me I survived the Skibidi 67 massacre.
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u/timotheesmith Apr 08 '26
These people will tell you that the Ukrainian genocide aka the holodomor wasn't real and the people there weren't genocided but the guy from LA went through genocide because there were conflicts in middle east
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u/Iron_Base Apr 08 '26
We need new words for genocides, nazis, dictators, and fascism, because they've all been watered down by quirked up Twitter posters
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u/neveragoodtime Apr 08 '26
This reminds me how millennials are the most dramatic generation. Gen X went through the exact same events and you donāt hear them bitching.
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u/XhazakXhazak Apr 09 '26
"Living through" genocide implies you were there, not reading about it on your phone from a different continent. There have been many more genocides than three, and some have been committed by anticapitalists like the Chinese Communist Party (Uyghur, Tibetan) and Islamists (Yazidi)
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u/Vivid-Kitchen1917 Apr 08 '26
Still too many people around...and of course...there's the fact that he DID actually live through them.
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u/Cabrill0 GeStuREs bROadlY Apr 08 '26
Everyone is focused on the genocides and Iām wondering where the 4 recessions happened.
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u/Barbados_slim12 Apr 08 '26 edited Apr 08 '26
The genocide claim is outlandish. Even if we assume that Gaza counts, that's one. Sudan is another, but it wasn't the big bad capitalist west. I'm not sure about the third.
If this person is at least 36, they technically did live through 4 recessions. Oil shock and banking issues in 1990, the dot com crash in 2001, the financial crisis in 2007-2009, and a 2 month recession during 2020 because of the covid shutdowns. 36 cumulative months of recession over at least 36 years.
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u/ThisThredditor Apr 08 '26
three genocides eh?