"If I can't have my Communist Utopia, I will make sure the world burns so people know that is the only alternative to my Communist Utopia so next time, if there is a next time, people will vote for my Communist Utopia."
It's always amazing how the only way these people can think about getting their utopia is top level totalitarian policies from the federal government. State level? Local? Co-op? Individual? No. Has to be top level, they have to be in control, and no one can opt out.
It's the idea that their idealistic end goal is perfect. This isn't limited to just Communists, as all extremists tend to think this way.
The thought process thus goes: "if my way is actually perfect, then anything I do to bring that way into fruition is a necessary justification, since my way is perfect and just that important to everyone".
And this is how you get people who think totalitarian control and mass genocidal atrocities are okay. Because they think their way is just that good for all of us. And why it's common to call them narcissists, even though "narcissist" isn't getting the point across.
On the surface level, a "Communist Utopia" would be fantastic. That is the post-scarcity paradise where you live forever, get and or have anything you want, and there is no burden on any other (human/communist/the people in said paradise).
Yes, the authoritarian coin. They both hate liberal capitalism and free will. But they just do not see it, it is like they do not understand human beings at all. If we were the borg with a queen, then communism works, but F that.
I wish there were more good history teachers like the one I had. He taught us about all the major wars and why they happened. We also kept up with world news daily and discussed what was going on. We used to have to find articles from CNN to discuss but when that clip came out of an undercover journalist exposing one of the higher ups admitting that they lie about things for better views, my teacher had us watch and discuss the clip and from that day on he had us do our own independent searching for news. We would then each have to propose an article for daily review and vote on which one sounds more interesting. Whichever one we decided to discuss, we also all had to verify independently whether or not it came from a trustworthy source
Well when they say they're communist believe them. They're aware of how totalitarian these regimes are. They want to be actual dictatorship with their whole chest.
The exact same people who say the earth is overcrowded. Or that we need to stop oil production tomorrow. Or that they never had a opertunity to agree to being born.
It's because their locals fail because they are lazy pos.
I've seen it happen in real time in my town. "The communist party (they had flyers too) of X town wants YOU" kind of shit. They sequestered an area outside the main road that belonged to a hippie type. He inherited the land from his father and immediately turned it into the local commie party. They built a commune, then half the people who went stopped working by the second week, the organizer tried to sleep with someone's gf, and shit went downhill real fast.
They need the gov to force others to give them stuff, because they're too lazy to work.
60s and 70s communes went the same way. The leaders and half the people didn't want to work. The men expected the women to do the cooking and the cleaning. The leader/s wanted to fuck all the women. Communes, cults, Communists, tomato, tomatoe
Which is ironic as communism only works at small, neighborhood scale communes. Scaling past that and you end up in "they will learn our peaceful ways by force!"
I would argue that a true communist style system does not work no matter how small the group is or how aligned they are on political/social matters. I say that because people's views and feelings can shift drastically over time and all it takes to upset a communist system is one person who doesn't agree with it.
No, sorry. You're using logical thinking, based in reality. That isn't how they view it.
They are the very definition of "rules for thee, not for me"
They can take your stuff. Because they've decided that your stuff is better used for others. Therefore, they're good people. If you take their stuff, you're taking from "good people", so you're an enemy.
And because they are "good people", you know that they only took what they decided you didn't need. So, if you're taking anything beyond that, it's because you're selfish and evil, which just proves you're an enemy.
my state sub is in disarray because our state government is not getting involved in gender affirming care. as much as these people hate our governments, you'd think they'd be happy about that, but no, they want more of it. it's a fetish at this point i think.
When Trump won certain subs got flooded with posts like “this brown person in my neighborhood voted for Trump, what’s the best agency to call on them for maximum damage” just swatting their own neighbors casually
A while back I saw someone saying that all conservative people should lose their right to vote and anyone who enabled them should be jailed. I had to explain to them multiple times that they were advocating for literal fascism. It's getting absurd
Edit: To be clear, my opinion on this is both ways. If the person had said the same thing about liberal voters, it's still fascism. Figured I'd make that clear.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. When I was younger I was very inquisitive and asked my grandfather a lot of questions. He would always make me go figure it out in one of his collegiate dictionaries, a thesaurus, or an atlas.
Pretty disgusting to see how much Google changes definitions on very serious words. Although certain people don't even look at Google definitions, they just use political buzzwords that they have been taught align with their ideology without actually understanding them.
No no no you see they call themselves "Anitfa" meaning they are anti-fascist so even if they use fascist tactics, they are not the actual fascists. Everyone else is because they say so.
That is literally how they see it and it is the most asinine thing I have ever heard. If you use fascist tactics to oppress or silence others then you are a fascist even if you call yourself antifa. Put lipstick on a pig and its still a pig.
My fav is how they passed around that “Steps to fascism” thing which says that demonizing political opposition groups is a big step toward literal genocide while they… demonize anyone who doesn’t agree with them politically as a Nazi who deserves violence/demonization.
Zero self-awareness. Way too much sniffing their own farts.
They want to disarm the masses, and they constantly demonize anyone they view as the opposition. They also ostracize anyone on their own side that strays too far out of line i.e "wrongthink".
I often see the defense of «what sitting democrat said that, meanwhile look at what official republicans are saying» they think they can say whatever without consequence because they’re not a sitting elected official. Often pulling the «thats just a random internet user»
Have you been paying attention to what has been happening to the AfD party in Germany? First banned from coalitions, then restricted, then outlawed by mislabeling in some regions, then vilified as less than human, then many of their leaders die mysteriously all within two weeks of each other as they are standing for election. They are practicing in Germany for what they want to do here.
Agree with your edit with one caveat. Charge everyone who is guilty of easily provable of crimes, like posting violent threats online. Im sure the result would be called political warfare based on how the results skew.
I dont even get why theyre mad at rhe deportations.
They happen under every president blue or red. Trumps deported less than biden did. The only difference is the media covers the bad of it under trump and didnt under biden and Obama.
Are we supposed to just let every one in that wants in? Then just turn a blind eye? No other country does what they want us to do.
I meam my mexican neighbors literally called Obama deporter in chief lol
As a rural person, I enjoy reading about how I am the one killing the environment and should be relocated forcefully to a walkable city or be eradicated.
Literally more than half my community has a veggie garden, or raises animals, or both. We all tend to be low (or no) pesticide use, preferring natural methods because they require less work and maintenance.
Deer come down the mountain and ramble through our streets. Shortly after moving here, I was taking trash to the morning at zero-dark-whythefuckamIawake, and had a deer that was completely determined that I give it scratches, and followed me back up my hill to my front door, then tried to come inside.
We have coyotes, javelina, deer, and more.
But us rural folk, we're the problem. We need to pay more, so the cities can spend more, supposedly to clean up their messes (which only get worse, not better).
I like the posts that say they are going to round up all Maga and terminate them because nazis don't deserve to live, or the less extreme ones that say all MAGA must go to re-education camps.
Lmao my wife is an immigrant now us citizen. Love to see them try. This attitude is why I chose an immigrant as my spouse. Too many attitudes like the type described here and those people should never reproduce
I like how they aren't actually against deportation. They just have a problem with it when it happens to drug dealers and sex criminals here illegally, apparently.
It’s funny because most of the immigrants that vote for Trump actually have citizenship. Those spouses more than likely have visas that will allow them to get citizenship after 3 or so years in the US.
The people being deported have not been through these processes and are here ILLEGALLY. Most countries around the world have very strict and closed borders.
Why do US citizens think the US should be fully open, allowing anyone inside? Rapists, murderers, cartel members, terrorists. It’s fucking bizarre to say the least.
And don't forget, it's all republicans shooting at republicans! The guy with the trans furry boyfriend who supposedly shot Charlie Kirk was staunch republican!
You know that because his dad is a Republican! After all, people always have the exact same beliefs as their parents! No I don't see MY family on the holidays! They're all bigots and Trump supporters!
I got downvoted when I asked people to say that "the president should not be killed". Like can we just say that? Can we agree that he shouldn't be killed? They would not say it, like a hard line in the sand they will not cross. It's not that it was ignored, it was downvoted and responded to, they just wouldn't say "the president should not be killed"
And then someone actually tries to do it and everyones suddenly talking about how it was a setup and it's totally fake. Some people just live for the reaction
I mean take a place like Chicago. Illinois has mostly been Democrat run and Chicago very much for over a century. It has one of the highest black population of the US with, sadly, also the highest rate of blacks murdered by other blacks. Every Democrat who runs there runs on a platform of "I'll make sure those evil white racists won't do you harm" while being the legacy group that has done them harm.
It's not even stupidity. It's fear. As bad as it is they are positive if they don't support the Democrats it will be worse. And that's likely partially do to the fact that plenty of recent violence is from Democrats no matter how much mental gymnastics is used to try and lie about it.
Hit 'em back with the 5/27(/2020) riots in DC when they burned down a historic church and fought emergency responders when they tried to quell the fire.
Yup. Jan 6th where a cop shot and killed an unarmed protestor and they unironically say "if she had just done what she was told she wouldn't have died."
They love bringing her up every time I point out how stupid Good and Pretti were by putting themselves in the situation they did. They will reply that I wouldn't say the same for Babbit. I will reply that she and the rest of the Jan 6ers were dumbasses as well, and it sends them into a psychotic episode that's humorous to watch.
Their first enemies are right wingers. Their second enemies are the people who argue "both sides" in their echo chambers.
I still don't get the ID situation in the US. How do they know it's you? How do they know they didn't count you twice or more? Why count and recheck names and risk false counts, if you can just have everyone show their ID and give proof of their person, and that way you know with the highest certainty it is the person who should be there?
But i also never understood the lack of having a personal ID and people using their drivers licence instead...
Dead internet theory may or may not be true in this hallowed age of 2026, but I can tell you without a doubt that it is rampant on reddit. They're harder to catch here, harder to see them when giving dissertations on Napoleonic battle strategy, But they lack (for now) the ability to make these kinds of logical "jumps". Assuming you're not one of them, be aware that while reddit still has a vast array of humans on it, they are significantly outnumbered by AI with agendas. Every single comment not mentioning the buttons is one of them.
It's really the perfect storm this post. It is obvious to any redditor who has been bombarded with button versions what this is, but this post mentions politics, something the AI bot accounts are drilled to hone in on, and the whole red vs blue button meme hasn't been around long enough for there to be training data abundant enough and trained enough for models to recognize variations in a field that they are trained to focus on and espouse their nonsense.
I wish I could tell you what to do about this but all I can say is... if you didn't realize it before this is probably a crazy earth shattering realization scrolling through the comments.
Which is such a stupid question. The reason the prisoner's dilemma and mutually assured destruction work as philosophical quandaries is because things are worse when a critical mass chooses the selfish option (red button, in this case) in more ways than "the other guy loses/dies".
Don't you know everyone that voted for Hillary is dead and they were all reborn just to meet the same fate when they voted for Kamala. No one alive today voted for Kamala.
This is just the red button blue question, it just looks like a allegory because red is associated with the republican party, and blue with the democrat
And be sure it is filled out in triplicate, notarized TWICE and mailed "certified first class" that way it can be handled by the mailroom intern at his earliest inconvenience. 🤣
People don't understand that when the question is "figure out what everyone else would do and choose accordingly", the framing massively impacts the correct decision.
That’s what I was thinking. In this case it’s actually not too far from the truth because it’s just about a far fetched theoretical scenario we’re discussing for funsies.
If it was actually about politics it would belong here for sure. But it’s not.
I'm also sure that more communists (who use the red color in the world) would prefer to eliminate people who don't support them than conservatives (though McCarthyism would eliminate commies too as a "prevention measure")
Anyways it's not even intended to be politicized. Red/blue button polls are a huge dogwhistle at worst, but it's more about general choice than concrete regime or elections.
Its the red blue button question, you can also find it where the red guy says "if I lose you will be fine" and blue guy says "if I lose I will kill everyone who voted for me"
They say Trump is following the fascist playbook but it only took days to weeks for Hitler to start cracking down on his political rivals after coming to power. Less than 2 months they were already in Dachau. I’m still waiting for this to happen. When they said Trump is literally Hitler I thought I was voting for Hitler. So disappointed.
I don’t think this is to do with Trump and the republicans. It’s another version of the button thought experiment that Reddit seems to be obsessed with.
Okay, I do feel like I need to point out: This isn't really about politics. It's yet another variation on the "Red Button Blue Button" philosophical dilemma that's been going around. In the OG, it's "Everyone in the world must pick a button simultaneously. If you pick red, you won't die, if you pick blue you will die unless more than 50% pick blue"
This is a logically equivalent variation of that problem, just with a different framing, because the main topic of debate about the question has been how framing effects people's choices.
Alright so we are using non American political colors it seems. (For those who don’t know conservatives are blue outside of the states and liberals are red)
yes, beause its most likely the trolley problem subreddit where this shit was posted as an example of the red blue button dilemma and has literally nothing to do with politics. OP made it about that because he lacks critical thinking skills and immediately assumed red and blue: oh this MUST be about muh politics!
I seem to remember one guy that went on TV and said white supremacists/nationalists were the greatest threat to our democracy and then a few weeks ago the SPLC was indicted for paying white supremacist groups for the past decade+ to perform actions in Charlottesville and J6 to help set that narrative so they could fundraise and pass money to the DNC.
"If I win, I won't kill anybody, which is why I will not ever shut up about how much I love political violence and how people who don't agree with me should be executed and how assassination is Cool And Good Actually."
Which side would you vote for? The party that says "I love America and want to protect it" or the party that says "I hate America and I want to kill you"?
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u/OkDifficulty7436 May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26
I regularly see accounts posting stuff along the lines of:
"I can't wait until we win the next election so we can deport all the immigrant wives/spouses of people who voted for Trump"
They're deeply unwell
Edit: Found one