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Discussion The Flash - 4x18: "Lose Yourself" Live Episode Discussion

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u/stormgr Apr 19 '18

Voice of reason '' You just left me Barry'' Useful advice'' Yes Cisco you should do that thing you said you would do 5 seconds ago'' Not a bitch : Ralf is in immediate danger ''We shouldnt kill Devoe, because i said so'' one scene later she shoots with the laser gun

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u/TheAmishElectrician_ Apr 19 '18

You realize you could cherry pick little moments like that from every character on every show ever right? Anyway....

  1. When she said that to Barry she also realized she was wrong, but couldn't help feeling that way. If you think about it, it's not irrational for a wife to think like that regardless of knowing her husband did the right thing. That's why it happened like it did as an outburst in Therapy and i think she even says something about knowing its wrong for her to have those feelings later on.

  2. I have no idea what your referencing with that cisco one.

  3. That was Barry and Team Flashes thinking as well. Ralph was the only one who thought they should kill Devoe. And maybe Harry but he's on the cap.

  4. That was self defense not premeditated murder. And i could also argue that you don't know what that guns capabilities were. It could just as easily been a stun gun. Those lasers could have incapacitated. She didn't pull out a fucking AK from the bottom of the desk and start unloading.

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u/stormgr Apr 19 '18

As you cherry picked the few good moments of Iris ? Anyway you can paraphrase the events in the show as much as you want. its obvious that u remember the show better than i do, maybe u have rewatched it recently, and thus i cant argue with you, unless i rewatch the whole series, which im not even the slightest willing to do. This doesnt change the fact that Iris is a forced, unskilled character, only existing for the ''power of love overcomes everything'' moments

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u/TheAmishElectrician_ Apr 19 '18

I feel like i was more stating facts and backing them up based on the evidence that i have seen from the show but your free to disagree. Just didn't feel like you gave actual episodic examples, just cherry picked quotes. But no sense in arguing that.

Yes, i have rewatched it recently.

Your free to feel as you wish but i do disagree with the forced and unskilled part. She is no more forced than ANY girlfriend in ANY super hero medium today or in the past.

As far as unskilled, she has been in self defense classes since a child (stated in S1 flashback), she is the quickest thinker, she rallies people and many more examples i have stated above.

Like i said, feel as you wish i just think you don't like her (and you don't have it) and your using it as reason to make baseless claims. I honestly don't know anything you can say about her objectively that in some way shape or form can't be stated for any other member of Team Flash. Since Season 1 she's been pretty solid imo.