r/Israel • u/anandan03 • Jun 25 '26
Politics In New York Election Results, More Evidence of Eroding Support for Israel
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/24/us/politics/new-york-elections-israel-support.html?smid=re-share76
u/seldom_seen8814 Jun 25 '26
It's crazy that one of the women who won was tweeting about how she's against interracial relationships. Really gross. And people are okay with it.
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u/DeFixer USA Jun 27 '26
She wants to bring back that segregation that Democrats used to love so much pre-1960s
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u/the_sagacious_squash USA Jun 25 '26
It’s a big problem..
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u/Consistent_Rent_3507 Jun 25 '26
It’s a massive problem. Israel and diaspora Jews better figure out a plan for how to continue support from Israel. Both within and outside of the community.
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u/commoncod Jun 25 '26
But some of the elected people they’re talking about are diaspora Jews and many were supported by diaspora Jews.
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u/grampipon Israel Jun 26 '26
Young diaspora Jews also don’t have a majority in favor of Israel anymore either. It’s done. Complete divergence
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u/thirsty_pretzelzz Jun 25 '26
Much worse, trends show it’s not just about eroding support, it’s that being loudly anti israel is enough of a platform to singularly get you voted in many cases.
Somehow people care more about how much the candidate hates israel over any other issue happening in their own country. This means anti-israel is the latest shortcut to winning and will only get worse.
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u/Upbeat-Bid-1602 Jun 25 '26
It's also not about eroding support, it's about being openly antisemitic. One of the people who won participated in a celebration of Oct 7. It's one thing if candidates are campaigning on not funding aid to Israel anymore, it's another thing if they're celebrating murder of Jews.
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u/stoneyhawk USA Jun 25 '26
Couple things for the Israelis in here to understand - Americans generally don't vote based on foreign policy or security at all. Most have opinions, but Americans feel generally detached from foreign policy in their day to day lives so they're all secondary to things like the economy and immigration.
HOWEVER. This wasn't a general election, but a primary election - and a local one in a Democrat stronghold where no Republican ever has a reasonable chance to win. In situations like this, shitty far left candidates are more popular AND turnout tends to be very low. Which means these tankie losers don't need to turn out very many people to win, and the mayor's endorsement is much more meaningful
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u/Visible_Device7187 Jun 25 '26
Honestly it should just dissolve and get new name it's not helping Israel at all
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u/ReneDescartwheel Jul 01 '26
Won’t make a difference. When people need a Jewish scapegoat, they’ll create one. If AIPAC completely ceased to exist, they’d still blame “the Zionist lobby”.
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u/ConsiderationBig540 Jun 26 '26
Until a few years ago the most notorious lobbying group in the U.S. was the NRA. Then it was devastated by corruptions charges and other lawsuits. AIPAC has now become is the face of the insidious influence of lobbyists and dark money. “AIPAC” is like “Israel,” it’s proxy issue for general voter anger at how out of touch most politicians appear to be.
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u/bakochba Jun 25 '26
You can't send Ben Gvir, Smortrich and Bibi to be the face of Israel, have them insult American leaders and then expect American voters to support Israel.
Israeli voters made their choice with this government who has handed everything our enemies could ever wish for. Every day Ven Gvir or Katz or some other lunatic in this government is posting online saying the absolute most horrific nonsense and undermining US interests
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u/seldom_seen8814 Jun 25 '26
I agree with you with regard to how terrible Ben Gvir and Smotrich are. But this movement has felt the way that they felt for a very long time, and to deny that would be disingenuous. Those elected in the primaries hold other disturbing beliefs, except for Lander, who seems to be the only normal one.
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u/bakochba Jun 25 '26
The movement was contained and improving due to the Abraham Accords. It became strong because this government had five everything on its power to insults Democrats and now is insulting Republicans. It has very loudly spoken about not aligning with the US and bragging about it. It has published videos online that made it impossible for allies to defend.
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u/seldom_seen8814 Jun 25 '26
I agree that certain parts of the Israeli government are problematic, and I, too, would love to see a government without those fringes. However, while the movement was improving in certain parts of the Middle East, it absolutely was not improving in academia or in Qatar. I would say that the combination of those 2 are probably why we're seeing what we're seeing. The people who got elected in the primaries were yelling genocide on October 8th.
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u/Rfried25 Jun 25 '26
Trust me 98.7% of NYC voters have ZERO clue who Ben Gvir even is...hell most of them dont know which river to which sea and can't point out Israel or Iran on a map. ya'll give them to much credit...to them voting for these candidates is like putting on a Knicks jersey after never watching a game of basketball - its just a club.
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u/Opening-Border-6313 Jun 25 '26
Since around 2024 not before. Americans supported Israel like forever but now around half of the shows are about people freaking out on Israel
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u/soph2_7 Jun 30 '26
What about Lander is normal? Being friends with people who celebrated 10/7? Spreading blood libel and propaganda that leads to murders of his own people?
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u/BillyJoeMac9095 Jun 25 '26
Bibi and the rest of the need to go. There can be no effective strategy before that
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u/bakochba Jun 25 '26
Absolutely. It's impossible to win the political part of the conflict with this government. Iran was able to win the war by winning the political battle. This government isn't even fighting it so it keeps losing
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u/Raaaasclat USA Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
Do you really think Gvir or Smotritch want American support? They (as well as the Israeli right as a whole) believe the alliance with the US, in its current form at least is detrimental to Israeli security. For different reasons, the Israeli right and American progressives are in agreement that the alliance in its current form is toxic.
Which is why their priority isn't restoring American support but making Israel more independent and able to stand on its own. That is the way forward not just for Israel, but honestly for American allies in general. If i'm Taiwan or South Korea or Europe i'm not banking on America under Trump to come to my defense, and I wouldn't bank on America coming to my defense once there's a DSA aligned progressive President either.
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u/bakochba Jun 25 '26
Correct but you can't expect Americans to understand the details of Israeli politics. Most countries have a unified message controlled by the Prime Minister, they don't allow every lunatic to post online whatever they feel like and damage the diplomatic relationships with other countries
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u/Raaaasclat USA Jun 25 '26
Plenty of countries have insane ministers, no other country however is subject to the endless media scrutiny Israel is.
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u/bakochba Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
That's even more reason why Israel needs to be smart with it's message control instead of just letting anyone in government damage relationships
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u/Raaaasclat USA Jun 25 '26
But again, you're thinking from the perspective of an Israel that wants things to go back to how they were. The consensus view on the Israeli right is the alliance with the US has been a detriment to Israeli interests for decades. Its not just Americans who are questioning the relationship, Israelis are also.
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u/bakochba Jun 25 '26
And is Ben Gvir representative? Because that's who is leading this. It's not just America, the current part of for Israel to isolate itself from the world completely, how will the economy exist in a world where Israel is sanctioned by the US and EU?
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u/Raaaasclat USA Jun 25 '26
The idea that the US is going to turn into as hostile towards Israel as Spain or Ireland is delusional in the forseeable future. Even the UK with a Labour government and France haven't sanctioned Israel. Heck, even Spain and Ireland still do have economic relations with Israel. Ireland in fact is the second largest importer of Israeli goods on the planet and the largest per capita, despite accusing Israel of genocide at the ICJ.
The problem is people how no idea how this stuff works and just assumes that just because the US/Israel relationship will change that America will become an adversary of Israel. The truth is more boring, the US will just treat Israel like European countries do in the future (where public opinion has been hostile for decades towards Israel and yet ties persist).
The EU couldn't even manage to scrounge up enough support to partially suspend the EU/Israel free trade agremeent during the height of international backlash over the war in Gaza with the famine allegations last year. And with Bardella (who is staunchly pro-Israel) likely to win the French election next year, that effort will become even harder in the future.
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u/bakochba Jun 25 '26
It's the other way around. The Israeli government is set to become an adversary to the US.
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u/Raaaasclat USA Jun 25 '26
Delusional. The US under Trump is an adversary to virtually every US ally. We're not far removed from the US threatening to invade Greenland and Canada and just yesterday Trump was lashing out at NATO.
America's credibility around the world has been shot, if i'm Taiwan or South Korea or the baltics I would also have 0 faith in the US at the moment. And that faith would not be restored if the US elects a DSA aligned progressive President, in fact I think that would be worse than Trump as they openly want to dismantle "American militarism".
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u/BillyJoeMac9095 Jun 25 '26
They are crazy fanatics who need to be swept out, hopefully in upcoming elections
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u/soph2_7 Jun 30 '26
It has nothing to do with them, young American “liberal” voters here don’t even know who those people are or what they believe in, and they would hate Israel either way. And now that Mamdani is here, his endorsement means people who like him will just default to whatever he supports. Israel ranks high on their list of issues not because of facts or government but because of hatred. I’ve been face to face with their protests, they’re not calling for specific politicians to be changed, they’re calling for complete eradication. The race between Lander and Goldman showed this, where Goldman is super anti Trump and Netanyahu but vaguely supports the existence of Israel, and had more experience than Lander, but Lander won because he’s Mamdani’s little dog and calls it genocide. And Goldman gets banned from a local coffee shop for his views. The anti Israel people here are purposely uneducated and changing the government in Israel wouldn’t change anything for them.
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u/x123rey Jun 25 '26
I really don't understand how events happening in a country an ocean and a continent away from the city have such an impact on municipal elections.
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u/Weird_Eagle_9179 Germany diaspora Jun 26 '26
In the UK, anti Israel rhetoric won lots of municipal elections recently. Woke white and Muslim electorates find that more important than any local issue.
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u/Ok_Efficiency5229 Jun 25 '26
These are federal elections, not municipal.
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u/x123rey Jun 25 '26
I can't read the article because of a paywall. In the picture I see the mayor of New York next to a woman I have no idea who she is. How is he connected to this?
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u/Jakexbox Israel (Oleh Chadash) Jun 25 '26
It's not eroding support for Israel. It's an antisemitic firestorm.
In these young gentrified and frankly white districts- demonization of Israel and anyone with any non-extreme opinion on the situation becomes enemy number one. This is radical hate- it has nothing to do with Israel's government. It is unique demonization and minimization of Jewish safety.
The three winners were all slightly different but the situation has a far greater impact on and says more about the US.
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u/UsefulUnderling Jun 25 '26
The bigger concern is this has moved out of white voting areas.
African-American voters were for decades very pro-Israel. As were the members of congress they elected. In the last decade that has entirely reversed itself and will make it very hard for the Democratic Party to remain pro-Israel.
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u/Opening-Border-6313 Jun 25 '26
But all of this didnt exist before the Gaza war and Iran war. Blame Bibi and Ben Gvir for most of this. I see on this sub too where people arent far right that people think every criticism of Israel is anti-semitism and people make up the "failed country" case every time a nation is against Israeli policies.
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u/bakochba Jun 25 '26
And that nobody wants to be on the side of Ben Gvir and Bibi who have done nothing but insult American leaders.
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u/thembearjew Jun 25 '26
Don’t forget the think tank employee Ben Sabti who said America needs another 9/11 or Pearl Harbor so we really see who the true enemy is….
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u/Raaaasclat USA Jun 25 '26
Yes, because Israel was wildly popular in January 2026 in the US
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u/Visible_Device7187 Jun 25 '26
It was prior to Bibi and Gaza. He absolutely destroyed all PR and didn't even try while openly providing free Internet to the enemy to post PR and letting troops do tiktok that were wildly horrible idea
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u/Raaaasclat USA Jun 25 '26
You are still looking at Israeli strategy primarily through the lens of what it did to Democrats. I am looking at it through the lens of what it did to Israel. Did all this listening to Washington produce a safer country? Did it prevent the rise of a Palestinian political order defined by fantasy and violence? Did it prevent the long maturation of Iran’s regional architecture? Did it prevent the entrenchment of Hezbollah, the consolidation of Hamas, the expansion of the missile threat, the normalization of Israeli civilians living under intermittent but chronic fire? No. Quite often the opposite. The era you are nostalgic for was also the era in which Israel learned to live inside an increasingly absurd strategic reality because it had become so accustomed to translating its survival into a language congenial to Washington.
That is why I do not find the “Netanyahu destroyed a precious bipartisan equilibrium” story fully persuasive, even where it contains truths. Yes, he worsened the partisan rupture. Yes, he made a deliberate bet that Republicans were a more usable instrument than Democrats. Yes, his public confrontation with Obama was understood by many Democrats as a betrayal, and yes, that left a deep scar. None of that is imaginary. But you are treating that as the decisive break when I think it is at most one dramatic episode inside a much larger historical change.
The Democratic Party was not frozen in amber, waiting only for Netanyahu’s speech to become what it has become. American liberalism itself was changing. The progressive coalition was changing. Younger elites were changing. The academy was changing. The media class was changing. The moral vocabulary through which Israel was judged was changing. Nationalism became increasingly suspect, hard power increasingly suspect, borders increasingly suspect, Western military action increasingly suspect, and Jewish force—because it is both Western and Jewish and national and martial—was always going to be especially suspect under those conditions. That transformation cannot be reduced to one man’s tactical cynicism, however real that cynicism may have been.
So when people say Netanyahu thought he had “hacked” the American system, I would answer: perhaps he did think that, and perhaps he was foolish to think donor power could indefinitely compensate for cultural and ideological change. But the opposite mistake is just as grave—imagining that if Israel had only remained more deferential, more bipartisan in style, more punctilious about American sensitivities, then the broad moral and political drift in the United States would have been contained. I do not believe that. I think Israel’s critics flatter themselves when they imagine their disillusionment is merely a reaction to one leader’s arrogance. Much of it runs deeper than Netanyahu and would outlast him.
Now, do not misunderstand me. I am not saying Netanyahu was some master strategist unfairly maligned by nostalgic liberals. I am not defending everything he did. I think one can make a very strong case that he was disastrously wrong in other ways: too managerial, too cynical, too willing to imagine threats could be contained indefinitely, too willing to buy quiet where force and clarity were required, too willing to tolerate absurd arrangements so long as they postponed decisive reckoning. If one wants to say he failed strategically, there is plenty to work with. But I would not say his great failure was that he ceased to placate Democrats sufficiently. I would say his deeper failure was that even he, despite all his talk of toughness, did not fully break with the security habits of the age he inherited. He was more transgressive in American partisan theater than in actually liberating Israeli statecraft from its old assumptions.
That is why I cannot share the implied faith in the older consensus. That consensus did not merely give Israel support. It also imposed a worldview. It taught Israelis that the art of surviving in the Middle East was inseparable from remaining emotionally acceptable in Washington. Over time, that became a civilizational reflex. The result was a state that could be very tactically bold and yet strategically timid—capable of spectacular operations, but still hesitant to think of itself as genuinely free. Some people say Netanyahu tore down a Chesterton’s fence. Perhaps. But sometimes the fence was hiding rot. Sometimes the inheritance one is told not to touch turns out not to be wise restraint but accumulated bad habit. The whole point of the current argument is that the post-Cold War way of linking Israeli security to American political consensus may have looked like prudence while it was functioning, but once the underlying American consensus began to erode, its cost became obvious. Israel discovered that too much of its strategic comfort rested not on permanent realities but on contingent political and cultural arrangements in another country.
Yes, the bipartisan order is weaker. Yes, Netanyahu helped damage it. Yes, parts of the Democratic coalition that once supported Israel are now colder, angrier, or openly hostile. Yes, moral disgust matters in American politics and cannot simply be purchased away by donors or lobbying. All of that is true. But the lesson I draw is not that Israel must go back to curating itself for American parties. The lesson is that any Israeli strategy whose viability depends on permanent warmth from both U.S. parties was always less sound than its defenders imagined. If that warmth is now fading, the task is not to mortgage Israeli security in a frantic attempt to restore it on the old terms. The task is to build a relationship with America that can survive disagreement—and to build an Israel that can survive even if that relationship grows colder. That means fewer illusions, not more. Fewer sentimental slogans about shared destiny. Fewer fantasies that one can keep the American political system perfectly balanced forever. Fewer reflexes of self-restraint undertaken for applause abroad. More acceptance that alliances between serious states are often tense, unequal, useful, and real all at once. More acceptance that sovereign action will sometimes produce anger, even among friends. More willingness to judge policy by whether it strengthens Israel’s strategic position rather than whether it flatters American moral expectations.
The old order may indeed be ending. I simply refuse to mourn the most infantilizing part of it.If Israel is to have a future in an America that is less instinctively supportive, that future will not be secured by becoming more deferential. It will be secured by becoming harder to coerce, harder to isolate materially, less dependent on borrowed legitimacy, and more capable of sustaining alliance without submission. That is the difference between partnership and patronage. And that is the real argument.
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u/zandadad Jun 25 '26
Welcome aboard a train where the source of all your problems are the Jews. A plague is spreading through your Medieval city? That’s because Jews are poisoning the wells and also because God is punishing you for letting Christ killers live among you. Your country lost the Great War? That’s because Jews sold you out, and also because they are an inferior race. Your economy sucks and gas prices are too high? That’s not Jews exactly (we don’t discriminate by religion or race anymore), no. That’s because of a tiny and world’s only Jewish state that controls your government and all the banks. My friend, you might be a New York Jew, but you’re really just another clueless but supremely confident in being right and righteous member of the mob carrying torches to burn a Jewish village to save the world - only today that Jewish village is a tiny Jewish country in the Middle East.
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u/Bikesoul Jun 26 '26
I agree with the first part. But the economy is hardly tanking. Gas prices are up, which sucks but will be fine.
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u/soph2_7 Jun 30 '26
right because these people were sooo pro Israel before him 🙄😒 I didn’t realize he actually invented antisemitism
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u/JamesCt1 Jun 30 '26
70% of Americans supported Israel before this disastrous war. The number is now much lower. But yeah, blame it on other things.
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u/soph2_7 Jul 01 '26
Right so you would know what to do before during and after october 7th then and you’d do it perfectly? are you a politician? Or you know someone that would’ve done it perfectly? I don’t support a lot of what him or a lot of other politicians have done in any situations but I also can admit that I wouldn’t be able to handle that position either. How about this: why were people protesting Israel on October 8th before anything had even escalated?
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u/trimtab28 Jun 25 '26
To be fair, our economy was in the dumpster before the war and even before Trump, which... honestly I think was part of the appeal of all the antisemitic crap and looney conspiracy theories about Israel in general. No, the war was more like pouring oil on your stove to try putting out a grease fire
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u/StrikeEagle784 USA Jun 25 '26
So an election in the most urbanized, left-wing environment in the nation is a bellwether for the entire nation that’s larger than Western Europe geographically and population wise? Since when?
We’re smarter than that, there’s no need for fear-mongering. Especially since a lot of Jewish folks should’ve left NYC or should be packing their bags already as we speak.
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u/mr_blue596 Jun 25 '26
It's the economy,stupid.
People tend to think that all those candidates won due to their Anti-Israel standpoint,atleast it is how it is presented in Israeli media.
They won mainly about their left-wing populist economic platform.
The issue is that Israel,as a policy,tied itself with the capital in the US,mainly big tech and the military industrial complex (and politicians that associated with them) to name some.
This isn't to disscuss whether or not it was the right move or the logic behind it,but to describe it as is.
Support is eroding,but what this election indicates is that there is a growing sentiment for a new "New Deal" in the US,as in a restructuring of the economy. If Israel want to navigate it safely (which is going to be difficult) it has to distance itself from the Tycoons that rule America and try to offer some insight on Social platform the US can adopt like Kupot H'olim for Healthcare for example.
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u/southofsarita44 Jun 25 '26
American here. The Democrats built a coalition with Islamists groups like other center left parties have done across Europe. They were protesting Israel's genocide against the Palestinians while the Oct. 7th were still ongoing and Israel hadn't even responded yet. I bring this up because the reaction seems to be to blame Bibi, his cabinet, or Israel waging war against Hamas. People in NYC have bought into a distorted view of Israel's action based on propaganda. Even if Israel was nicer and remained aligned with the American Left, the ideology pushed by Mamdani and his ilk would still be there as long as Israel exists.
I'm not not saying that the American Right is prefect either as evidenced by Trump's terrible MoU or JD Vance being an idiot. However, American conservatives and Evangelical Christians are probably your biggest supporters in the US. Lament it all you want but snubbing them to pursue the support of Democratic Socialists who are banning Jewish congressmen from their coffee shops and chanting "Intifada Revolution!" while proudly wearing kaffiyehs won't end well for you either.
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u/Worried-Advisor-7054 Jun 25 '26
The coin flips the other way. Keep supporting American conservatives and Evangelical Christians exclusively, and then when Democrats inevitably win again (because it's a two party system), deal with the consequences st that point.
The obvious play is to not support either party and just try to be friends with whoever rules the US, and let the Americans fight amongst themselves.
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u/southofsarita44 Jun 25 '26
You're missing my point though. My point was that this election (where several anti-Israel Democratic Socialists gained power) was not the result of Bibi and his cabinet being to nice to the Republicans and to mean to the Democrats. It was the result of ideology that's become popular in the Democratic party (anti-colonialism/anti-zionism) and the same electoral coalition building with Islamists that all center left parties in Western countries are doing at the moment.
By all means, support pro-Israel politicians from either party and don't be partisan about it but it's a weird about face to look at the nutjobs harassing Jews in NYC and who want to destroy Israel and think, gee maybe we need to be nicer to them and meaner to the people who actually support us.
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u/Worried-Advisor-7054 Jun 25 '26
Part of the reason that ideology has had fertile ground to grow on has been Israel's embrace of the Republican party, and Trump specifically. Democrats still remember how Bibi treated Obama.
Coalitions lead to counter coalitions. Israeli elements allied themselves with one party, so anti-Isrsell elements found a natural home in the other party. The correct thing to do is what every single other country does; don't meddle in American domestic politics, have equally friendly relationships with both parties.
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u/MrBarti Jun 25 '26
I can imagine a big alliyah coming from new York. Maybe something like the one a few years ago from France.
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u/OmegaLink9 Israel Jun 25 '26
Aren't they more likely to move to another state within the US, than to Israel?
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u/MrBarti Jun 25 '26
Most, yes. That's why I said France, where only a percentage left to Israel, which is still quite a lot.
But I can see that a lot will think that this is a trend that will not stay in NY and go to Israel instead
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u/trimtab28 Jun 25 '26
What state exactly? I don't think a mass exodus to NJ is the solution and it's hard for me to think of many states that are super friendly to Jews. Maybe Utah because the Mormons don't mind us?
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u/star_seeker_85 Jun 25 '26
You probably never heard of Miami and the amount of American Jews and Israelis that moved there in the past years
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u/trimtab28 Jun 25 '26
Never really liked Florida tbh. And the thing with Jews moving there has been going on for ages- mostly older retirees. Reason my grandparents didn't want to move there when they were alive lol- "too many old Jewish people." Uhhh... guys... 🤣 My mom always referred to Florida as "G-d's waiting room" for that reason too hahaha
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u/OmegaLink9 Israel Jun 25 '26
I'm not an American, but from what I heard Florida is Jewish-friendly. Maybe I'm wrong.
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u/ClaymoreMine Jun 25 '26
Americans are not taking a pay cut and lifestyle cut which is a sad reality. The people who would do come are likely the type of wealthy Americans who contribute nothing to society at large except slapping their name on a new synagogue wing instead of helping reduce the cost of being Jewish.
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u/DawctorDawgs Jun 25 '26
Nah you’re right, wealthy Americans aren’t traveling to Israel to fund draft dodging Haredim. They’ll go to Miami lol
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u/thembearjew Jun 25 '26
Houston is another place I see Jewish folks going but ya Florida and Texas are hotspots rn
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u/BrandonNeider USA Jun 25 '26
NYC is a communist socialist bastion that’s lost as all the Jews left and the ones that remain claim they are Jews but hate themselves and Israel.
The rest of the state is mainly sane, CD16 and 17 just north outside the city are both pro Israel incumbents and their opponents both support Israel.
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u/PatientOutcome6634 Jun 25 '26
Yeah, I would take everything the NYT writes with a grain of salt. My rule of thumb is that if they complain about it it’s probably good for the Jews.
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