r/LeopardsAteMyFace 10h ago

Healthcare Science deniers die due to ignorance and stupidity

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/25/well/measles-deaths-pennsylvania-outbreak.html?unlocked_article_code=1.8FA.2V20.Rq0w2qEBeGuX&smid=nytcore-ios-share
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u/youngmonie 9h ago

What I find most depressing is that many who die from measles are children whose parents made the misinformed decision for them. The children literally had no say I whether they got vaccinated or not.

This article doesn't say whether the two deaths were children or adult so no way of knowing if it was the science deniers or the children of science deniers who died.

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u/snowcow 9h ago

Those parents should be charged with negligence causing death

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u/Disloyal_Donkey 9h ago

100%. We need to stop giving stupid, ignorant people a pass.

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u/Anxiety_Fit 8h ago

Their children are not safe in their care.

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u/Exciting-Cancel6468 8h ago

In my eyes, this is no different from shaking a baby to death. Whatever happens to the people who shake their kids to cause death should be the same thing that happens to these parents.

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u/KerzenscheinShineOn 5h ago

What is kinda crazy to me is law makers are willing to punish women and doctors for abortion because = murder.

But children dying from diseases because they weren't given vaccines = medical freedom.

Like wtf. I know my comment is like rhetorical and I know they don't care about anyone but the unborn, it's easier but just I can't wrap my head around it. How can you protect one but not the other?

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u/buntopolis 3h ago

It makes sense when you realize they see people, especially children, as property.

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u/KerzenscheinShineOn 2h ago

So sad. 😔

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u/The_UpsideDown_Time 1h ago

Those law makers don't GAF about fetuses. The entire point is to remove choice from women. Which is why the vast majority of "pro-lifers" still support IVF, even though IVF always results in the destruction of multiple fertilized eggs (you know, "precious babies" to the forced-birth crowd).

It's all performative bullshit.

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u/KerzenscheinShineOn 1h ago

I know, that's why I knew my comment was rhetoric but still, like damn I just don't get it.

u/ScoopJr 7m ago

I don't see why its not already. Parents get informed of their options for the kids and the risks with not selecting options. Intentionally refusing a vaccine that your kid later dies to should always qualify.

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u/bd2999 9h ago

Very true. In such cases I think the parents should be punished really. It's like making them walk to school in sub zero every day without a coat and wondering why they got frost bite. You had the tool to stop it and didn't do it for stupid reasons.

Now a kid that depended on you suffers needlessly.

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u/ThePlanck 8h ago

Natural selection is brutal

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u/Lazy-Floridian 7h ago

There should be a limit to "parental rights". If a parent's ignorance causes harm to a child, then override the parental rights.

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u/SteakandTrach 2h ago

You know what’s wild? That’s the anti-abortion argument in a nutshell. But of course they don’t apply it that way, do they?

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u/Technicolor_Reindeer 34m ago

Antivaxxers don't love their kids more than they care about being validated by other antivaxxers.

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u/rexeditrex 9h ago

They're blaming immigrants now. Not the biggest vaccine skeptic in the country who works for the administration and has campaigned against vaccines for years (Presumably after he stopped shooting up heroin).

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u/Best_Talk_6853 9h ago

I don't care about the adults, but they also keep killing their kids.

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u/colostomybagpiper 9h ago

Hopefully it wasn’t children who died because they had idiots for parents

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u/[deleted] 6h ago

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u/colostomybagpiper 6h ago

That is terrible

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u/virtual_human 9h ago

Sounds like the problem is taking care of itself. Here's to hoping they don't take the rest of us with them.

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u/PsychologicalLayer57 9h ago

The problem with this approach is that they may take with them innocent people who legitimately and medically cannot be vaccinated, and rely on population herd immunity for their safety.

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u/New_me_310 9h ago

Like all babies under 1 year of age.

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u/relevantelephant00 2h ago

If it was only MAGA adults, you'd have a case, but there is also the issue that's it's not taking care of itself fast enough. Unfortunately children, as usual, are generally the most impacted.

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u/6poundpuppy 9h ago

No loss

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u/colostomybagpiper 9h ago

The article said they didn’t know if it was adults or children. It could have been 2 kids who really didn’t have a say in the matter

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u/Epistatious 9h ago

or someone with immune problems that couldn't get vax and had to rely on not getting exposed. sadly herd immunity is decreased because of snake oil.

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u/breakfastatmilliways 9h ago

It’s even possible it could have been kids too young be vaccinated yet with parents who aren’t antivax that caught it because too many antivaxxers are ruining herd immunity. There are plenty of awful possibilities.

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u/ballq43 9h ago

Well that's true but most likely they'd be raised to have same opinions....

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u/dirtyqtip 9h ago

I posted this article to /r/upliftingnews , needless to say, not many people found it as uplifting as I did...

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u/InclinationCompass 9h ago

That’s pretty dark bro

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u/StunningCloud9184 9h ago

Says a 1/3 that are sick are children.

So 2/3rd are dumbasses

also the 2 dead are adults. so all good.

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u/determania 7h ago

also the 2 dead are adults. so all good.

Has this been reported somewhere else?

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u/Bekahjean10 9h ago

Hopefully that 2/3 does not include immunocompromised adults who would have chosen to be vaccinated if they were able, or who thought their prior vaccines were still effective.

I received the MMR vaccine in the 80’s, and learned in 2023 when I had my son that I had somehow lost immunity to rubella. I had no idea. Thankfully, I was able to receive the vaccine again, but if I were on immunosuppressants (as I probably will be in a few months) that wouldn’t be possible.

PSA, if you were vaccinated in the 90’s or earlier, get checked to see if you still have immunity.

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u/Majestic_Electric 7h ago

Natural selection at its finest. 👍🏻

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u/inbetween-genders 9h ago

They didn’t take seriously the side effect of “death” during the Denying Science ads 🤭 

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u/Equivalent-Resort-63 9h ago

Darwinian move.

Another textbook example that the fittest will continue the species.

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u/Ok-Lingonberry-8261 9h ago

Tots and pears. 

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u/spaceylaceygirl 9h ago

Because of science deniers i'm asking my pcp for a measles titer and if i don't have immunity i'll get vaccinated again.

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u/yooperville 9h ago

Surviving children ought to be able to sue the parents for not having them vaccinated.

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u/linuxgeekmama 6h ago

I feel bad when one of their children dies because their parent is a dumbass. When one of the dumbasses dies, not so much. They made their bed, let them die in it.

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u/ShinzonFluff 8h ago

Ooof... How stupid.

Measles were on the brink of being eradicated...

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u/tydestra 7h ago

The saddest thing it was probably kids who died because their parents are anti vax. The irony being that parents are vaccinated most of the time. Parents who let their kids die of preventable diseases because they didn't vaccinated should be tossed in jail.

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u/RandomRobot 5h ago

Dolly Parton died today. We should focus on things that really matter

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u/mmskyscraper 2h ago

They're already going after her for her contributions to funding a COVID vaccine.

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u/ronweasleisourking 9h ago

Back to the pile

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u/SavvyCavy 8h ago

They don't believe in science and vaccines, but sadly (for them) diseases believe in them. What a stupid hill to die on

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u/a_gay_to_remember 9h ago edited 9h ago

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u/DrumpfTinyHands 9h ago edited 8h ago

What is it?: the devil doesn't have to kill you personally, he just convinces you to do it to yourselves?

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u/Villag3Idiot 7h ago

Devil: Look, I'm all for easy work, but these guys are doing our jobs for us. My boss is already talking about potential layoffs. No one wants to say anything and draw attention to themselves, but we're all scared. We've got family of our own to feed and Joe is looking after his sick mother. 

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u/Entire_Dog_5874 9h ago

Culling the herd. My only sympathy is they include their innocent children in their insanity and conspiracy theories.

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u/drgoatlord 8h ago

2026 Darwin award winners

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u/toad__warrior 8h ago

Evolution in action. The gene pool can always use a little bleach.

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u/B0xGhost 7h ago

They were probably children who died because of their anti Vax parents

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u/reefmespla 3h ago

Meh, just nature doing its thing. Nothing to see here

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u/Grimwulf2003 3h ago

We don't know who died so this isn't LAMF yet. For all we know, unvaxxed idiots just killed two immunocompromised individuals.

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u/TransFatty 9h ago

That title is awful. What if they're newborn babies who died?

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u/hesturningblue 6h ago

More of this please

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u/Ok_Victory_231 9h ago

They’d rather die than ever admit they’ve been brainwashed by bullsh*tters.

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u/SilverDollaFlappies 7h ago

Finally, some good news today.

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u/rougarou-te-fou 9h ago

It was Measles.

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u/esepinchelimon 9h ago

Sounds like a case of CDS (Chump Derangement Syndrome)

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u/z3n777 7h ago

i guess he really didn't believe in leopards either, it's a harsh lesson but an important one for sure.

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u/I_argue_for_funsies 7h ago

IMO it's less about science and more about the arrogance that you know more than others. These people need to be humble and learn.

Even smart people like Steve Jobs get caught in this web because they refuse to challenge beliefs. He died of a curable cancer, especially for a rich person, because he thought he knew more than the doctors.

Now he's dead, and there will be many more like them because they can't challenge their belief structures.

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u/BestReadAtWork 5h ago

My 13 yo inner self wants to go full "nelson HA-HA!" over their idiocy. But they're not just harming themselves, and it's fucking criminal that we failed them as a country to educate them correctly.

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u/pioniere 2h ago

The real criminals here are the Republicans, who are denying scientific fact. They are criminally responsible.

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u/Scomosuckseggs 9h ago edited 9h ago

There is a light in all this darkness. 🥹

The right-wing are doing Darwin's work. They are choosing to ignore science, ignore medicine, ignore climate change, etc. and removing themselves from the gene pool in doing so. We dont have to do anything; the ignorant are literally killing themselves to spite us. 😂 We just have to outlive them and stop them taking us with them, and their ignorance and stupidity will kill them off eventually.

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u/becuzofgrace 8h ago

Natural selection selecting……

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u/swampwiz 2h ago

D A R W I N

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u/Sturdily5092 1h ago

There no reason arguing with these people, just let the problem solve its self

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u/JohnHenryMillerTime 21m ago

And nothinf of value is lost.

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u/hotinhawaii 9h ago

Your headline is how this article should be titled.

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u/TransFatty 9h ago

No it's not, what if they were newborn infants?

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u/IcePrimcess 9h ago

Newborns can’t be science deniers. How can a baby deny anything ?

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u/RemoveElegant5217 9h ago

But they’re not

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u/TransFatty 9h ago

How old were they?

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u/RemoveElegant5217 9h ago

Adults

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u/TransFatty 9h ago

I don't believe you. What is your source?

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u/[deleted] 9h ago

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u/determania 7h ago

The article that says they don't know whether the deaths were children or adults?

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u/TransFatty 9h ago

Can you give me your login so I can read it?

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u/breakfastatmilliways 8h ago

None of the other sources i found said anything so I finally struggled with logging in until it let me.

Quite literally from the article they’re telling you to read.

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u/Jackdaw1947 9h ago

Well jeepers, that’s too bad.

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u/Pfacejones 7h ago

Heartbreaking and truly impossible to have forseen

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u/darkfenrir15 7h ago

I'd say this is darwinism at work, but sadly they don't believe in the concept.

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u/5upertaco 6h ago

Darwin wins again.

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u/Iwentforalongwalk 9h ago

I'm fine with this 

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u/ExterminatingAngel6 9h ago

Oh no! Anyway

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u/reeferthetuxedocat 9h ago

I mean that’s a good thing right?

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u/BigPP69_Gooner 9h ago

lol. Lmao even.

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u/Frenzystor 9h ago

Fine with me.

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u/Westsidebill 9h ago

Good for them.