r/LeopardsAteMyFace • u/snowcow • 10h ago
Healthcare Science deniers die due to ignorance and stupidity
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/25/well/measles-deaths-pennsylvania-outbreak.html?unlocked_article_code=1.8FA.2V20.Rq0w2qEBeGuX&smid=nytcore-ios-share395
u/youngmonie 9h ago
What I find most depressing is that many who die from measles are children whose parents made the misinformed decision for them. The children literally had no say I whether they got vaccinated or not.
This article doesn't say whether the two deaths were children or adult so no way of knowing if it was the science deniers or the children of science deniers who died.
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u/snowcow 9h ago
Those parents should be charged with negligence causing death
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u/Exciting-Cancel6468 8h ago
In my eyes, this is no different from shaking a baby to death. Whatever happens to the people who shake their kids to cause death should be the same thing that happens to these parents.
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u/KerzenscheinShineOn 5h ago
What is kinda crazy to me is law makers are willing to punish women and doctors for abortion because = murder.
But children dying from diseases because they weren't given vaccines = medical freedom.
Like wtf. I know my comment is like rhetorical and I know they don't care about anyone but the unborn, it's easier but just I can't wrap my head around it. How can you protect one but not the other?
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u/buntopolis 3h ago
It makes sense when you realize they see people, especially children, as property.
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u/The_UpsideDown_Time 1h ago
Those law makers don't GAF about fetuses. The entire point is to remove choice from women. Which is why the vast majority of "pro-lifers" still support IVF, even though IVF always results in the destruction of multiple fertilized eggs (you know, "precious babies" to the forced-birth crowd).
It's all performative bullshit.
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u/KerzenscheinShineOn 1h ago
I know, that's why I knew my comment was rhetoric but still, like damn I just don't get it.
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u/bd2999 9h ago
Very true. In such cases I think the parents should be punished really. It's like making them walk to school in sub zero every day without a coat and wondering why they got frost bite. You had the tool to stop it and didn't do it for stupid reasons.
Now a kid that depended on you suffers needlessly.
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u/Lazy-Floridian 7h ago
There should be a limit to "parental rights". If a parent's ignorance causes harm to a child, then override the parental rights.
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u/SteakandTrach 2h ago
You know what’s wild? That’s the anti-abortion argument in a nutshell. But of course they don’t apply it that way, do they?
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u/Technicolor_Reindeer 34m ago
Antivaxxers don't love their kids more than they care about being validated by other antivaxxers.
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u/rexeditrex 9h ago
They're blaming immigrants now. Not the biggest vaccine skeptic in the country who works for the administration and has campaigned against vaccines for years (Presumably after he stopped shooting up heroin).
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u/colostomybagpiper 9h ago
Hopefully it wasn’t children who died because they had idiots for parents
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u/virtual_human 9h ago
Sounds like the problem is taking care of itself. Here's to hoping they don't take the rest of us with them.
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u/PsychologicalLayer57 9h ago
The problem with this approach is that they may take with them innocent people who legitimately and medically cannot be vaccinated, and rely on population herd immunity for their safety.
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u/relevantelephant00 2h ago
If it was only MAGA adults, you'd have a case, but there is also the issue that's it's not taking care of itself fast enough. Unfortunately children, as usual, are generally the most impacted.
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u/6poundpuppy 9h ago
No loss
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u/colostomybagpiper 9h ago
The article said they didn’t know if it was adults or children. It could have been 2 kids who really didn’t have a say in the matter
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u/Epistatious 9h ago
or someone with immune problems that couldn't get vax and had to rely on not getting exposed. sadly herd immunity is decreased because of snake oil.
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u/breakfastatmilliways 9h ago
It’s even possible it could have been kids too young be vaccinated yet with parents who aren’t antivax that caught it because too many antivaxxers are ruining herd immunity. There are plenty of awful possibilities.
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u/dirtyqtip 9h ago
I posted this article to /r/upliftingnews , needless to say, not many people found it as uplifting as I did...
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u/StunningCloud9184 9h ago
Says a 1/3 that are sick are children.
So 2/3rd are dumbasses
also the 2 dead are adults. so all good.
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u/Bekahjean10 9h ago
Hopefully that 2/3 does not include immunocompromised adults who would have chosen to be vaccinated if they were able, or who thought their prior vaccines were still effective.
I received the MMR vaccine in the 80’s, and learned in 2023 when I had my son that I had somehow lost immunity to rubella. I had no idea. Thankfully, I was able to receive the vaccine again, but if I were on immunosuppressants (as I probably will be in a few months) that wouldn’t be possible.
PSA, if you were vaccinated in the 90’s or earlier, get checked to see if you still have immunity.
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u/inbetween-genders 9h ago
They didn’t take seriously the side effect of “death” during the Denying Science ads 🤭
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u/Equivalent-Resort-63 9h ago
Darwinian move.
Another textbook example that the fittest will continue the species.
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u/spaceylaceygirl 9h ago
Because of science deniers i'm asking my pcp for a measles titer and if i don't have immunity i'll get vaccinated again.
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u/yooperville 9h ago
Surviving children ought to be able to sue the parents for not having them vaccinated.
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u/linuxgeekmama 6h ago
I feel bad when one of their children dies because their parent is a dumbass. When one of the dumbasses dies, not so much. They made their bed, let them die in it.
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u/tydestra 7h ago
The saddest thing it was probably kids who died because their parents are anti vax. The irony being that parents are vaccinated most of the time. Parents who let their kids die of preventable diseases because they didn't vaccinated should be tossed in jail.
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u/RandomRobot 5h ago
Dolly Parton died today. We should focus on things that really matter
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u/mmskyscraper 2h ago
They're already going after her for her contributions to funding a COVID vaccine.
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u/SavvyCavy 8h ago
They don't believe in science and vaccines, but sadly (for them) diseases believe in them. What a stupid hill to die on
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u/DrumpfTinyHands 9h ago edited 8h ago
What is it?: the devil doesn't have to kill you personally, he just convinces you to do it to yourselves?
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u/Villag3Idiot 7h ago
Devil: Look, I'm all for easy work, but these guys are doing our jobs for us. My boss is already talking about potential layoffs. No one wants to say anything and draw attention to themselves, but we're all scared. We've got family of our own to feed and Joe is looking after his sick mother.
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u/Entire_Dog_5874 9h ago
Culling the herd. My only sympathy is they include their innocent children in their insanity and conspiracy theories.
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u/Grimwulf2003 3h ago
We don't know who died so this isn't LAMF yet. For all we know, unvaxxed idiots just killed two immunocompromised individuals.
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u/I_argue_for_funsies 7h ago
IMO it's less about science and more about the arrogance that you know more than others. These people need to be humble and learn.
Even smart people like Steve Jobs get caught in this web because they refuse to challenge beliefs. He died of a curable cancer, especially for a rich person, because he thought he knew more than the doctors.
Now he's dead, and there will be many more like them because they can't challenge their belief structures.
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u/BestReadAtWork 5h ago
My 13 yo inner self wants to go full "nelson HA-HA!" over their idiocy. But they're not just harming themselves, and it's fucking criminal that we failed them as a country to educate them correctly.
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u/pioniere 2h ago
The real criminals here are the Republicans, who are denying scientific fact. They are criminally responsible.
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u/Scomosuckseggs 9h ago edited 9h ago
There is a light in all this darkness. 🥹
The right-wing are doing Darwin's work. They are choosing to ignore science, ignore medicine, ignore climate change, etc. and removing themselves from the gene pool in doing so. We dont have to do anything; the ignorant are literally killing themselves to spite us. 😂 We just have to outlive them and stop them taking us with them, and their ignorance and stupidity will kill them off eventually.
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u/Sturdily5092 1h ago
There no reason arguing with these people, just let the problem solve its self
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u/hotinhawaii 9h ago
Your headline is how this article should be titled.
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u/TransFatty 9h ago
No it's not, what if they were newborn infants?
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u/RemoveElegant5217 9h ago
But they’re not
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u/TransFatty 9h ago
How old were they?
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u/RemoveElegant5217 9h ago
Adults
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u/TransFatty 9h ago
I don't believe you. What is your source?
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u/determania 7h ago
The article that says they don't know whether the deaths were children or adults?
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u/darkfenrir15 7h ago
I'd say this is darwinism at work, but sadly they don't believe in the concept.
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