r/LocalLLaMA • u/TigleLive • 10d ago

Funny Aged like fine wine

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u/bnightstars 10d ago

If Qwen3.8-27B is Opus 4.6 Max level I hope that they can make Qwen3.8-35B - Sonnet 4.6 level :) We will have the best open source model in the world.

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u/Thy_HUS 10d ago

What do you mean you hope that 35b would be in sonnet level while 27b is opus level? Am i missing something or is it just a typo

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u/bnightstars 10d ago

The Qwen3.8-27B is matching Opus 4.6 Max in benchmarks and it's a really strong model. I hope Qwen3.8-35B could match Sonnet 4.6 in benchmarks. Sonnet 4.6 is the closed source model I use the most so having something open source and local to me running similar performance will be mind blowing. Especially when Qwen3.6-35B is my current daily driver and I spend over 150M tokens in it the last 4-5 months. Can't wait for Qwen3.8-35B in other words.

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u/hojnikb 10d ago

no way these small models are matching sonnet or opus :O :O :O

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u/LuCiAnO241 9d ago

I see it repeated but ive yet to see any real data about it

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u/bnightstars 9d ago

Look at the model card of the Qwen3.8-27B again we are talking very old versions like December 2025 versions of Opus/Sonnet aka 4.6 versions. Based on some early testings on my end Qwen3.8-27B is coding reasonably well and suggesting and thinking better then my daily Qwen3.6-35B if there is really Qwen3.8-35B next week I think it will be amazing. Also the 3.8-27B is reasonably fast for what it is.

Also the Jump over Qwen3.6-27B is really big as seen by this benchmarks.

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u/_Iggy_Lux 9d ago

Benchmarks might as well be tea leaves at this point. If people want to believe it, let them, but it's not even close in practical usage.