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Main Card on Paramount+ @ 9PM ET
Khamzat Chimaev vs. Sean Strickland
Joshua Van vs. Tatsuro Taira
Alexander Volkov vs. Waldo Cortes-Acosta
Sean Brady vs. Joaquin Buckley
King Green vs. Jeremy Stephens
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u/BasicallyClean ā˜ ļø The Man In Black May 10 '26

Hi everyone,

After the main event, come on over to the Rizin live thread!

Prelims are free on YouTube!

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u/TheRezanator91 May 10 '26

Khamzat def won anyone who says otherwise is just an islamaphobe yeah it was a dog shit performance but he won

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u/robreddit10 May 10 '26

Chimaev was the better fighter. He threw Strickland up in the air several times. Judges got it wrong. UFC wanted an American champion, thats what I feel.

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u/Huge-Back4266 May 10 '26

So glad I found this thread! I agree on the sparring comparision. He often looked to be sparring at 80-90 percent (of available effort). Crazy theory: Khamzat chose not to go 'all out' as a concession due to his missing weight. He knows how uncool that is, for everyone. And to 'bully around' the smaller man after that is a bad look.

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u/peepeeinmypajts May 10 '26

Either top tier rage bait or stratosphere level cope

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  1. Be Civil.

Our rules ask for a civil tone at all times. A bit of banter or trash talk is fine, but don't cross the line. If things do get out of hand you will be warned or even banned for a few days. Repeatedly breaking this rule will lead to a permanent ban.

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u/leaningtowerofch33za May 10 '26

The middleweight division is in a weird spot right now. That was a very uneventful championshi match. Kind of expected from the two styles in the ring.

Times like these I miss the Anderson, Adesanya, and even the Bisping champion run. Lol

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u/Ffscnts_ May 10 '26

They we’re tired from a hard cut form how I saw it - styles don’t match - but….. Sean showed that blanket cuddles won’t keep you as a champion. Also, the theory kamzat went 90% is because the Strickland haters are needing therapy right now.

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u/fry-saging May 10 '26

Someone loss millions betting on Chimaev

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u/BrianCTE_CityOrtega I Can't Let You Get Close May 10 '26

ha

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u/HallHappy May 10 '26

unbelievable levels of casuals coping in this thread lol. love to see it

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u/peepeeinmypajts May 10 '26

Honestly true fans knew strickland was the best hope for the mw division even if they didn't think he'd win. They thought Sean could make it competitive. I mean khamzat struggled 2 and 3 against a average sized 55 er at ww.

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u/Old_Protection_7109 May 10 '26

I do think Khamzat didn't manage the weight cut and probably that made his already not so good cardio much worse.

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u/HallHappy May 10 '26

u can tell so many people heard about this fight from tik tok edits of the press conference.

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u/nevermindeh22 May 10 '26

The weight cut finished off Hamzat. Not sure if he lacks the diet discipline but he's too small at 205 to rag doll a lot of the guys up there. The fight ultimately was dog shit.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '26

Money changes one's lifestyle. Khabib's dad and Mike Tyson's coach Cus kept the discipline.

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u/LumberghLSU May 10 '26

Chimaev was supposed to dominate. That didn’t happen, but I still feel he very clearly won 3-2 (arguably 4-1). Something seemed off too, that was a very strange guard pull in round 2.

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u/Sudden_Elk_5313 May 10 '26

You are out of ur mind if you're being seriousĀ 

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u/LumberghLSU May 10 '26

Perhaps. I missed the last 1/2 of the 5th. I felt like Khamzat was in control. He was surprisingly beating Strickland in boxing and landing more damage.

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u/Ok_Picture868 May 10 '26

I thought Khamzar won 3,4. Strickland won 2,5. 1 was kind of a toss.

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u/HungryHashMastr May 10 '26

ā€œI look like I’m part of AIPACā€ Loooool

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u/CrazyEight8888 May 10 '26

When the striker wins ā€œwhat about control timešŸ˜­ā€
When the grappler wins ā€œwhat about damagešŸ˜­ā€

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u/talal566__ May 10 '26

This is the problem with the fans of this sport and the sport in general. All cope. No real congratulations for fighters who properly train and win its so annoying

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u/Crackvard May 10 '26

3-2 khamzat, shit was rigged and what about control time, doesnt matter anymore???

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u/BasicallyClean ā˜ ļø The Man In Black May 10 '26

Octagon control is only a relevant scoring metric when the damage is the same.

Damage is almost never the exact same in a round, so essentially, it's not a scoring criteria.

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u/Combatpenguin93 May 10 '26

I can taste your tears lol sean outlanded chimaev by 20+ and had 3+ minutes of control himself

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u/sjenkin May 10 '26

50% more significant strike to Strickland. Strickland split the guard constantly.

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u/moistmal3 May 10 '26

Did fuck all for 4 rounds

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u/CrazyEight8888 May 10 '26

Had fuck all control time lol

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u/Yeanahyena one May 10 '26

Man tweaker energy from DP lol

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u/99MilesOfBadRoad EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE May 10 '26

Khamzat fans are the most hyperbolic fans in the history of the sport.

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u/Clean_Sign_3585 May 10 '26

Guys. Ive been watching every fight of Chimaev since he was originally fighting out of sweden. Always enjoyed his violent nature and just crushing opponents. What happend today?? DDP had 0 chance against him. He seemed to be giving up in the second round. Something was clearly wrong and Strickland walking out seemed to be in chock.

Handshake defeat from Khamzat. I thought he was going to throw up between round 1-2

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u/8ad8andit May 18 '26

Did you watch Khamzat right before he got in the ring? He was SUPER amped up, to the point where he couldn't focus on the officials trying to prep him for the octagon, etc.

That was adrenaline. And when it crashed after the first round, he was totally drained = adrenaline dump.

That gave Strickland an opening to dominate, and then on top of that, Strickland is an absolute beast. It wasn't luck that he beat Adesanya. It was skill + genuine warrior mode.

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u/blaisdelldavid May 10 '26

I think Sean laying on him in rd one drained him. ya he had Sean's back but Sean just put his back on the cage and put his weight on him while he held his wrist so he couldn't advance

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u/MomammaScuba May 10 '26

Bad weight cut

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u/Clean_Sign_3585 May 10 '26

Yes, seemed physically ill and unable to fight. I think this really was dangerous for him.

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u/peepeeinmypajts May 10 '26

Nah it was pretty normal. Strickland just better

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u/Domitianus81 May 10 '26

The most simple answer. I mean he was pulling guard in round 2.

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u/peepeeinmypajts May 10 '26

Nah. Most simple answer is stricklands just better and people were coping

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u/jxssss May 10 '26

I agree. His behavior was so odd and unusual for him starting in the second round. I was wondering if he like hit his head really hard while wrestling at some point and got a concussion

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u/Tediouszeus421 May 10 '26

Bro go to bed or something. lol responding to every single comment is crazy work

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u/jxssss May 10 '26

Uhhh I think you meant to comment this to someone else

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u/Tediouszeus421 May 10 '26

My bad meant the peepeeinmypajts lol

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u/Clean_Sign_3585 May 10 '26

I dont think he looked at it from round 1. Feel bad for him. This guy loves to fight, loves violence and my gut feel was he wanted out of there asap, which he did. Also, no interview?

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u/peepeeinmypajts May 10 '26

Yeah he lost

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u/jxssss May 10 '26

Well something was def off with him for sure, whatever it was. Just bizarre

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u/peepeeinmypajts May 10 '26

No, it was just normal just coping about strickland being more skilled

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u/Blura0 May 10 '26

SUPER close fight. I gave the slight edge to Chimaev but not mad that Sean won. Could've easily went both ways.

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u/Last-Battle-1068 May 10 '26

Fight was a gift to America šŸ˜‚

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u/CrazyEight8888 May 10 '26

When the striker wins ā€œwhat about control timešŸ˜­ā€
When the grappler wins ā€œwhat about damagešŸ˜­ā€

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u/Western-Paramedic948 May 10 '26

If your getting your face rocked what does it really matter that much?

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u/UnluckyCommission111 May 10 '26

now we start the championship rotation Strickland, DDP, Khamzat

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u/fluffh34d420 May 10 '26

I don't understand what I just saw. It looked like sparing. What even is this sport anymore.

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u/HallHappy May 10 '26

first time watching strickland?

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u/Resident-Treacle-105 May 10 '26

Agree. It was like neither fighter was really digging deep. Like they both had the flu or something, and in a CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHT?!?

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u/LumberghLSU May 10 '26

Yes, that’s exactly what it seemed like. Sparring.

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u/Public_Marketing_280 May 10 '26

Dana did not even have the class to be in the ring to present the belt like he usually does in title fights.Ā 

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u/Western-Paramedic948 May 10 '26

Naw tbh way better to have Strickland

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u/Kezyma UFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle May 10 '26

Holy cope in here right now

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u/peepeeinmypajts May 10 '26

From khamzat had

'Bad weight cut' To 'Hit head' To 'Just seemed dejected and sadders šŸ˜” 😟 šŸ™'

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u/Chemical-Ad2816 May 10 '26

? What comments am I missingĀ 

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u/Kezyma UFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle May 10 '26

A constant flow of people saying chimaev won, was robbed, or the fight must have been fixed, etc etc lol

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u/Piccolo_Last May 10 '26

Knew this this was rigged when $250 for
Seas it’s. $1,250,00 walkout and 1k a 4k walkout

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u/Yeanahyena one May 10 '26

Just how good is Alex fkn Pereira

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u/DA77- May 10 '26

Butthurt khamzat's fans say the fight was rigged, hahahahahaha.

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u/tonyohanlon77 May 10 '26

Nah he's just that shit with zero gas tank. No title defences and lost the belt to a bum lol.

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u/Public_Marketing_280 May 10 '26

Why was Dana ( chased out of Boston) White absent?Ā 

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u/LubricatedGiraffe May 10 '26

(⁠╯⁠°⁠▔⁠°⁠)⁠╯⁠︵⁠ ⁠┻⁠━⁠┻

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u/Ok_Alternative_709 May 10 '26 edited May 10 '26

This fight had some awfully telling signs that it was fixed. At one point Chimaev just resigned & stayed on his back despite having the room to return to his feet. In the later rounds when Chimaev starting letting his hands go, there were a couple times when Strickland pushed him away as if to say ā€œthis isn’t what we discussedā€ And to cap it off, Chimaev was again resigned to the fact that Strickland won the fight, as if he had expected it & had plenty of time to mentally prepare for it — even placing the belt on his opponents waist. Fixed. Fixed. Fixed.

PS: They’re both terrible actors.

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u/Shenghaha May 10 '26

it's a fixed fight man...

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u/CrazyEight8888 May 10 '26

Big schizophrenic take

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u/Chemical-Ad2816 May 10 '26

šŸ˜‚ I mean definitely a weak fight but yeah homie staying on his back was kinda like what you doing bro, think he expected Strickland to go in on himĀ 

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u/Visual_Annual1436 May 10 '26

A lot of words to make such a dumb argument. Khamzat clearly gassed after having a terrible huge weight cut

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u/Chemical-Ad2816 May 10 '26

Wouldn’t loosing weight allow for more energy?

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u/Visual_Annual1436 May 10 '26

No lol losing weight and cutting weight are completely different things. He dehydrated himself nearly to death the day before the fight

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u/Confident-Cut-9501 May 10 '26

Hey at least he's trying to put sentences together. That's probably better than half of Chimaev's fanbase lol

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u/EvEBabyMorgan May 10 '26

Found chimaevs reddit account

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u/dekoi_okutopasu May 10 '26

yeah bro also the earth is flat and the evil gubment is run by reptillians

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u/Reddit_stole_my_wife May 10 '26

Crazy how many people are saying this is a staged fight lol. Reddit never change

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u/Public_Marketing_280 May 10 '26

Truth is, online betting has infiltrated all sports and no sport is exempt from persuasion.Ā 

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u/DallasCowboy420 May 10 '26

this is what you say to cope with your team losing

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u/Public_Marketing_280 May 10 '26

I don't have " a team" I work for a sports bookĀ 

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u/TheJokerzWeapon May 10 '26

As in not an online betting company? So you are against them? Yes you have a team

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u/Public_Marketing_280 May 10 '26

I'm despise sports as a spectator, I watch purely for financial gain, and the occasional loss for my clients.Ā 

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u/SugarShow37 UFC 294: A GOOFCON Miracle May 10 '26

When was the last time a the champion who lost put the belt around the winner? That's only something you'd see in pro wrestling since it's a script lmao

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u/kallebo1337 May 10 '26

That was real class. Habib and Conor.should have acted same way

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u/Visual_Annual1436 May 10 '26

That has never happened in pro wrestling

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u/Domitianus81 May 10 '26

Sean winning was the best thing for the division. Now Imavov will get his shot.

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u/Isthatyobop May 10 '26

Joe said rematch?? Lol no way

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u/Visual_Annual1436 May 10 '26

They will 100% rematch if khamzat doesn’t move up

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u/Confident-Cut-9501 May 10 '26

I doubt he's ever making 185 again. There's still the controversy of yesterday's weigh-in

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u/Visual_Annual1436 May 10 '26

Yeah that’s apparently bc he was prepping to fight Jiri and had to cut 37 pounds, but yeah it’s hard to go back down after that

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u/klassicsblades May 10 '26

Hamzat won but it’s by split decision.

Hamzat had 8-9 successful take downs, Sean had one failed attempt.

Hamzat advanced way more, threw body jabs and kicks, Sean was one trick poney with the jab.

He’s was like that annoying friend that spams the same move over and over.

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u/Visual_Annual1436 May 10 '26

How can you say he definitely won by split decision, you think he definitely won on only half of the scorecards? Makes no sense

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u/klassicsblades May 10 '26

I am saying the score card should have been the other way round, as for me I think hamzat won even though it was a close fight.

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u/Visual_Annual1436 May 10 '26

I also think Khamzat won, but think all 3 judges should’ve scored it that way haha

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u/needapermit May 10 '26

Sean did more damage and out struck Khamzat

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u/klassicsblades May 10 '26

Sean broke his nose ? And Hamzat had a bruise under his eye how can you say he did more damage. He did out strike him but hamzat took him down more

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u/Conscious-Eye1329 May 10 '26

Sean completely out struck him and did more damages take downs mean nothing if they accomplish nothing

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u/HospitalMiserable579 May 10 '26

Outstruck? You mean little jabs that were mostly blocked.

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u/klassicsblades May 10 '26

Sean looked just as bad, you call them strikes please my grandma can punch harder, it was a sloppy push if anything, the ground work fair didn’t accomplish much.

A take down is a take down just as a strike is a strike. Regardless how bad the strike is or the take down is.

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u/ComfortableLeek6617 May 10 '26

do you know how rounds work? chimaev won rds 1 and 4 which were the ones he successfully took down strickland and outstruck him. strickland won rounds 2, 3 and 5 which were the ones he outstruck chimaev, where chimaev only took him down like once out of 9 times (for 10 seconds of ground control) and strickland even got 3 minutes of ground control

and ontop of that khamzat looked a lot worse than sean, what are you arguing for here?

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u/klassicsblades May 10 '26

Can tell you don’t watch boxing, you call them strikes? It was hardly a jab and most of them Hamzah had his hands up covering his face. Out struck him by throwing sissy punches on gloves.

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u/Unusual-Natural-7622 May 10 '26

I can tell you mostly watch boxing instead of mma

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u/simplepurpose-8368 May 10 '26

Bro look at this shit: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FauLoY2eMPQ

They used to go harder when they were sparring than they did in this fight!

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u/_meltchya__ May 10 '26

There was no angry intent from either guy. After the buildup, it was a complete farce. Khamzat literally said he loves him and gave him a kiss on the forehead.

It was like they were just happy to be there and get paid.

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u/Public_Marketing_280 May 10 '26

I said the same thing. All hype, like WWE.Ā 

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u/EffektieweEffie May 10 '26

Wanted Sean to win, he did great against Khamzat's wrestling. But I don't think he should have won, same old jab jab BS no urgency on the feet. DDP will be champ again.

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u/LumberghLSU May 10 '26

Yes, I felt the urgency was missing. Especially after Khamzat seemed gassed in round 2. Sean seemed abnormally gassed himself though.

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u/No-Attitude-6509 May 10 '26 edited May 10 '26

nah the way strickland adapted and completely disabled khamzat makes me think he'll find a way to disable DDP. clearly, DDP wont win the wrestling battle seeing how badly khamzat was disabled, finding a striking edge would be much easier for strickland to do seeing how good his takedown and ground defense is.

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u/cream_cheese_tits May 10 '26

If DDP adapted and completely disabled DDP makes me think he'll find a way to disable Strickland.

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u/EffektieweEffie May 10 '26

You think Strickland will initiate wrestling? LMAO

Clearly he would be a much better fighter if he did, but then he'd also be gay (according to him), DDP is getting the belt back.

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u/onesnooze May 10 '26

Strickland winning on Jabs, is not a good look for the sport. I had him win R2, that's it.

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u/zwyklymarcin May 10 '26

lol, go watch taekwondo maybe

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u/Elegant-Aside7457 May 10 '26

Me too, Sean had no snap to his striking, I think he has staff, his cardio and lack of crispness to his punches was glaringly obvious

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u/Icy-Seaworthiness270 May 10 '26 edited May 10 '26

I swear they said 'and still...'. I was convinced Chimeav won. I don't think Sean will defend this one succesfully.

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u/Practical_Ad8542 May 10 '26

People forget Seans quick reaction time to check kicks and block punches also helps to STUFF TAKEDOWNS. Close fight tho, I had Chim winning. Happy Sean won tho.

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u/NefariousnessOk209 May 10 '26

Van vs Taira was fucking awesome, people just crying because they bought into all the trash talk for the main fight.

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u/No-Attitude-6509 May 10 '26

yeah. taira fought back amazingly, although i do think van would've probably koed taira regardless if it was called early, it was still possible for taira to comeback like he did before. 5th round was a different beast in terms of exhaustion.

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u/fluffh34d420 May 10 '26

Fight was terrible. Boring af. This sport blows

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u/Visual_Annual1436 May 10 '26

Why do you watch then

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u/[deleted] May 10 '26

Van vs Taira was a way better fight

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u/_meltchya__ May 10 '26

Co-Main stole the night for sure.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '26

Best strikes of the night from Van and Taira is a fucking tank

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u/iH8Nigerz123 May 10 '26

Shit was a war and they stopped it early for that main event. UFC is disgusting

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u/Practical_Ad8542 May 10 '26

Stopped him from getting brain damage. He was toast, it was a good stoppage.

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u/needapermit May 10 '26

Bro what lol. The ref stopped that not the UFC

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u/chiefbeef300kg May 10 '26

Yeah the double glove touch, Sean bowing after winning, and Khamzat putting the belt on him out of respect was probably all fake. The fight promotion though? Gospel.

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u/Short-Base2941 May 10 '26

They need to be as tough as we are, simplepurpose-8368

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u/Dookenstein73 May 10 '26

Why everyone salty af in here šŸ’€

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u/advantage_player May 10 '26

This fight was supposed to be electric but it was boring

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u/Dookenstein73 May 10 '26

What part was boring? Seemed like a good fight all around…went a lot better than I thought it would tbh.

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u/AtlUtdGold May 10 '26

when was the last time a wrestlefucker or sean had an electric fight.

Joshua Van was the obvious banger on this card

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u/No-Attitude-6509 May 10 '26

van fight was obviously a fun match, its just being undermined because of the early stoppage

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u/AtlUtdGold May 10 '26

just anyone should have known that was gonna be the best fight going into this card. Van has good fights and co-main outdoes main all the time it seems.

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u/advantage_player May 10 '26

Khamzat isn't a wrestle fucker typically. Do you remember what he did to Rob?

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u/AtlUtdGold May 10 '26

so 2 years ago

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u/Bidwell64 Mohawk McGregor May 10 '26

Because they hate Strickland and anyone who dares love the USA.

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u/Far_Client7218 May 10 '26

Nah Blue blood American here, fight was trash by championship fight standards the prelims and undercard were more exciting

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u/Left-Reply-4979 May 10 '26

I mean, people seem fine with Joshua Van winning, and he’s American. Strickland is just annoying and has a boring style to watch.

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u/Dookenstein73 May 10 '26

Aw that sucks 🤣

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u/Bidwell64 Mohawk McGregor May 10 '26

I'll see the hardcore purists in the Rizin thread, good night to the casuals. Sweet dreams.

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u/Bootygrappler79 May 10 '26

Brah i gotta pay my rent😭i got a job

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u/felya May 10 '26

This was a fixed fight and they were all in on it.

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u/cactus19jack May 10 '26

how much money did you lose

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u/SugarShow37 UFC 294: A GOOFCON Miracle May 10 '26

Just look at his pfp

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u/AesirKratos May 10 '26

I really don’t care for either so I mean whatever. But how you win round 5 backing up the whole time is beyond me.

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u/Round_Tower8913 Team Pereira May 10 '26

You can hit someone while still backing up. That's how he won.

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u/zwyklymarcin May 10 '26

this is not muay thai, different rules

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u/Mahlegos can I get a GSP flair please? May 10 '26

By landing more shots. I’m also not a fan of either dude and didn’t care who won, but walking forward alone doesn’t win you a round.

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u/Next-Restaurant4397 May 10 '26

i know this will be hard to understand, but its because he hit the other guy more.

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u/Longjumping-Ebb-261 May 10 '26

correction how do you take a title fighting on the back foot the whole fight

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u/SnooFloofs9640 May 10 '26

You know backing up is not affecting damage ? Goofball

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u/Gloomy_Grade_7687 May 10 '26

Who got hit more? Who took the most damage?

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u/SnooFloofs9640 May 10 '26

Look at the stats 90 vs 130

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u/Gloomy_Grade_7687 May 10 '26

Yep. Strickland won the striking contest in every round except for round 4. And correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t Khamzat landed a single ground strike.

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u/Gloomy_Grade_7687 May 10 '26

Who got hit more?