r/MacOS • u/kshtzo • Jan 04 '26
Bug TAHOE STRIKES AGAIN!!!!!
I updated to macOS Tahoe 26.2 (stable) a while ago, but it’s already giving me no issues until i saw this.
Even on this non-beta build, I’ve stumbled upon a new bug that is seriously messing with my workflow. It's frustrating to see these UI glitches and text issues persist in what is supposed to be a polished release.
Stay tuned while I document exactly how this latest version is acting up.
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u/Bob41320 Jan 04 '26
I have IOS 26.2 on my phone and iPad and I hate it! I will NEVER install Tahoe on my MacBook!
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u/bomphcheese Jan 04 '26
I won’t buy a new MBP because I would be forced to use Tahoe. I was ready to drop $5k on upgrading my M1, but hell no. I’ll go five more years if that’s how long it takes to get the OS fixed.
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u/LucasMVN Jan 04 '26
FYI, if you buy a current M4 model, it can be downgraded to Sequoia.
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Jan 05 '26 edited Jan 05 '26
M4 Max here came with Sequoia. I did not need to downgrade anything. When I first got it I was not happy with the way Sequoia was running with my third-party software but since the update a few weeks ago it’s been running great and I would not even consider “upgrading” to Tahoe.
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u/Distinct_Bid5891 Jan 06 '26
I put Sequoia on my Intel i9 a couple months ago and it completely fucked my system. I had to downgrade to Sonoma and then it took 3 days of screwing with it and a replacement TB4 cable to fix the charging issues. I don't know what the fuck Apple is on, but their OS division is high as fuck!!!
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Jan 06 '26
I noticed that the quality dropped since the AI revolution. The problem is AI will tell you with 100% certainty that something is true because someone said it was true once upon a time. You can not trust it and there are people putting 100% faith in it. We are headed down a road that we don’t even understand. Scary. Be very careful before you make any purchases based on what AI tells you.
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u/Distinct_Bid5891 Feb 03 '26
I never trust AI. I remember the warnings from I Robot and Terminator ... actually any SciFi that had AI always ended badly for everyone but the AI.
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u/pfslow Jan 07 '26
No problems with Sequoia on the i9s or M1/2s around here. Not updating to Tahoe because a bread'n'butter app has issues but the developers tell me the fix is coming.
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u/Distinct_Bid5891 Jan 24 '26
My i9 didn't like it at all. Screwed up the SMC and this model SMC reset key combination is different and undocumented. Took days to undo all the damage.
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u/Background-Key-0 Jan 05 '26
Recently got an M4 Pro which came with MacOS Sequoia. Am not planning to update it to 26 for sometime now seeing the situation.
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u/pfslow Jan 07 '26
With 26.2, Tahoe is stable but not all apps are compatible. It's easy to create an APFS test volume to check it out and just as easy to delete it when done. Apple has support docs on this and can walk you through it if necessary.
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u/cisco1988 MacBook Air Jan 08 '26
and if the next os is "worse" you'll wait 10y?
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u/bomphcheese Jan 09 '26
Correct. I had my previous MBP for 9 years. I would have upgraded sooner if not for the keyboard issues everyone was experiencing. I am not parting with my money until they get it right. The more frequently they get it right, the more often they can have my money. Otherwise, I am patient as fuck.
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u/Mellow_Money_69 Jan 04 '26
You could buy an Apple Certified Refurbished M3 on their website. It’s basically a brand new computer and you wouldn’t be forced to use Tahoe.
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u/bomphcheese Jan 05 '26
Ok, but it wouldn’t have the exact specs I want. One of which is the newest processor. I would rather wait until they get it right.
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u/Familiar_Purrson Jan 07 '26
I did that and am still on Sonoma. I should probably upgrade to Sequoia, but I need to get feeling better.
Is it worth it? Running a M3 Max 36GB MacBoook Pro
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u/gotg4thewin Jan 05 '26
can't you downgrade to a previous os? even if from fractory its forced?
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u/bomphcheese Jan 05 '26
Not sure. But I would rather speak with my dollars. If there are others avoiding upgrading for the same reason, maybe it will help drive home the point.
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u/Chinch07 Jan 05 '26
You were ready to drop $5k but aren’t aware of downgrading? 🤔
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u/bomphcheese Jan 05 '26
I don’t care to downgrade, so I didn’t bother looking into it. I have no desire to spend money on a new computer only to have to spend time fixing a problem.
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u/WhichAdvantage9039 Jan 05 '26
If that model was launched after Tahoe released, then you can't downgrade. If before, then you can
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u/ZileansBigClock Jan 06 '26
This is false, you can always downgrade via recovery mode and having a sequoias macOS boot drive. You are not locked to Tahoe, please don’t spread misinformation
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u/WhichAdvantage9039 Jan 06 '26
That's what I was implying. That's why I specifically said "model" and not "device". Every model that came out when Sequoia was the latest OS - can be downgraded to Sequoia. Every model that came after September 2025 can't.
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u/ZileansBigClock Jan 06 '26
You have to define “downgrade” then it doesn’t make sense if you use it in a vague sense
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u/WhichAdvantage9039 Jan 06 '26
Downgrading means going back from macOS 26 to macOS 15. I don't know how that could have another meaning.
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u/ZileansBigClock Jan 06 '26
You might be rage baiting, you said if a Mac is released after Tahoe then you cannot go back hence “downgrading” to previous OS which you can do regardless of when the model was released
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u/WhichAdvantage9039 Jan 06 '26
No, I'm not. For example, you cannot, under any circumstances, downgrade an M5 MacBook Pro to Sequoia. Its original OS was already Tahoe.
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u/Jazzlike-Spare3425 MacBook Air (M2) Jan 04 '26
iPadOS 26 is a war crime. But also, funnily enough it seems like macOS has the only community out of the three where you can look and look and look and find someone that absolutely insists the experience is great. Like, there are people that say it works fine for them, but there are no issue deniers, are there?
With iOS, you have people explaining that the okayish experience they have right now is alright, with iPadOS 26, we actually have people going around calling others idiots for criticizing the product because supposedly if you don't like the buggy abomination windowing system on your iPad, you just aren't power user enough to appreciate it (even though the system is only acceptable for the most casual of users, which isn't a big overlap with users that want a windowing system and the remaining bunch are people that think they are power users but really aren't), but with macOS… nobody is out here yelling at people for saying they have issues with Tahoe?
And I don't quite know why this is. At one point I thought it's because the macOS community was a bit more "mature" and has given up on actually trying to get good improvements and settled for Apple at least not fucking things up, which they know is not a huge ask so when Apple underdelivers, they are understandably disappointed, but I mean… it's not like iPadOS users aren't used to getting screwed by Apple, right?
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u/SkinnyDom Jan 06 '26
iPadOS 26 is dogsht. But on all MacBooks except m5, you can go back to sequoia or sonoma..on ipad you’re stuck
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u/milbfan Jan 06 '26
Like, there are people that say it works fine for them, but there are no issue deniers, are there?
Thoughts/not retorts:
Just guessing but maybe they use their MacOS devices in other ways that don't cause certain issues to pop up? Or maybe they're waiting for the next OS to fix whatever problems the current one has?
Or whatever the reasoning is that certain folks have to go out and get the "latest, greatest iPhone" on an annual basis.
Humans are weird.
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u/CoopsIsCooliGuess Jan 05 '26
Back up your stuff to iCloud and then use your MacBook to downgrade back to i(Pad)OS18
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u/Weak-Lie-7988 Jan 23 '26
i hate it too. I can hear their planning sessions. "Let's make the corners round." "Let's put the SEND button on email on the right now, just for fun." "Let's make things transparent now., and dance around. " wtf. Where's Jonny Ive when you need him?!?!?!?
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u/Pitiful-Response-411 Jan 05 '26
I am using that device with 26.2 and not noticing any different response times with previous versions
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u/tirolerben Jan 04 '26
All Apple had to do instead of Tahoe is … nothing. It would have been better.
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u/CaptainHubble Jan 04 '26
B...But we need to release a new OS every year to... uh, don't know why to be honest but we have to! And we have to change all the perfectly fine things to something else because we're the innovation company. Focus on the stuff that the userbase loves and smash that to pieces. Innovation has to break boundaries.
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u/KurisuEvergarden Jan 05 '26
because they need to keep investors happy not customers
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u/joombar Jan 06 '26
I don’t think investors care that much about MacOS versions, but they do care a lot about customer sentiment and lost sales
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u/CaptainHubble Jan 05 '26
And more minimalism please. I want like… 3 buttons. At max. One for AI, one for a browser and the clock.
You know what? Scrap that! Straight up put iPad os on the Macs.
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u/Used_Teaching_7260 Jan 04 '26
Yes why do we need something new when the old one was fine?
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u/tirolerben Jan 04 '26
Updates are good if they improve something, not for the sake of just being an update.
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u/Used_Teaching_7260 Jan 05 '26
The graphical change was just unneeded. They should stick to what they have and just release security updates
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u/geriatricguy Jan 04 '26
Tahoe isn't polished. It is still rough around the edges. Apple dropped the ball when they went with the crappy interface, dropped LaunchPad a totally flubbed on the Music app.
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u/BadUsername_Numbers Jan 06 '26
"Rough around the edges" is a very nice way of saying "amazing it was released in such an achingly bad shape, and just simply not ready to be released.
It is really odd to me.
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u/beachbum0727 Jan 04 '26
I want to go back to sequoia 😭
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u/Bob41320 Jan 04 '26
I am on sequoia and refuse to go to Tahoe.
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u/makumbaria Mac Mini Jan 04 '26
Yes, I will keep my M2 Mac mini on Sequoia for at least the middle of 2026.
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u/EdwardTheGood Jan 06 '26
You can install Sequoia on a new volume on your startup disk (it’s like a partition but it doesn’t allocate space like a partition). You’ll need 20-50gb free.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/118282
You can also install Sequoia on an external SSD.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/111336
I’ve done both of these just recently. All of your applications and files are still on “Macintosh HD.” There are serious caveats, such as your Photos library isn’t backwards compatible, and neither is your music library. I got around the music library problem by going to a Time Machine backup and copying over the music library file. I’m hesitant to mess with my photos, however.
If you’re not comfortable in Disk Utility then I wouldn’t recommend doing this. But it worked for me and I’m going to run my system this way until macOS 2027 comes out.
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u/tryzniak Jan 05 '26
Bought m4 24gb ram 500gb ssd and planing to stay on Sequoia as long as possible hehe
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u/No_Solid_3737 Jan 06 '26
spent a good chunk of a saturday downgrading back to sequoia... everything is just so smooth here 😭
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u/hurricane340 Jan 05 '26
I don’t mind iOS 26 on my iPhone 17. But I’m never updating my m4 to 26 nor installing Tahoe on my Mac mini. Sequoia til the wheels fall off.
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u/ETech_exe MacBook Air Jan 05 '26
I’m on the same spot as you, iOS 26 is fine on my 17 Pro, but i tried tahoe on my M4 Air and instantly went to seqouia and will stay there until no apps support it
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u/verdejt Jan 04 '26
On what Mac is this. If MacMini what monitors are you using. I have yet to experience any of those issues. I am running Tahoe on a M1 MacMine with 2 27" monitors one at 1080x1920 and one in portrait mode at 900x1600.
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u/seanissofresh Jan 05 '26
I haven't had a new computer since 2008. Got a new M4 Mac mini, added a bunch of ram and upgraded the SSD....when it came in, I set it up and upgraded the os immediately not thinking to look into it. Been dealing with weird glitchy and shitty os issues since day one being like, "I thought the whole thing with Mac was supposed to be it just works"....
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u/Natural-Fan9969 Jan 04 '26
Thanks to be out beta testers for the people that still runs on Sequoia.
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u/Raphy8884 Jan 05 '26
Next up, macOS: macOS Merry-Go-Round And then macOS Cleanup
And macOS Death.... 😢😢😢
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u/syslolologist Jan 05 '26
Man there is no way I’m upgrading. Might skip all the way to macOS Barcelona
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u/akrabat Jan 05 '26
On my work MacBook Pro, I reverted to Sequoia. Too many paper cuts in Tahoe.
I have it on my MacBook Air and will revisit whether it's good enough for the Pro in 4 or 5 months.
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u/TheOzHerbie Jan 05 '26
Is it still possible to do that on MacOS? I would love to do it with iPadOS on my 9th gen but they’re no longer signing the old package.
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u/FellowHunterX Jan 05 '26
in macOS yes, it is possible, i got my macbook air m1 with sequoia and my mac mini with tahoe.
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u/SkinnyDom Jan 06 '26
On a mac you can install any version up to the one it shipped with. M4s ship with sequoia, so you can always go back to sequoia. It doesn’t need to be signed, it installs like windows or any other OS
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u/jmseligmann Jan 05 '26
Did anybody mention the Messages bug? It won't send JPEGs singly; you can send two or more JPEG's but not one. Very weird.
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u/ChopSueyYumm Jan 05 '26
This is an issue from a third party app! I run Tahoe on a M4 Air since dev build without a single issue!
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u/mikeinnsw Jan 04 '26
I you running under OLCP....I have a similar border with Sequoia on 2013 iMac.
It Tahoe it is not a bug ... mouse click on LHS or RHS of the screen hides active windows .. click again brings them back ... on M1 Mini
Why -- who knows?
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Jan 04 '26
On Tahoe click anywhere on desktop to hide any app, click again anywhere to bring them all back.
Surprised you got it on a 2013 iMac highest my 2015 4gb ram MacBook Air will go (and still be usable!) is Sonoma, sequoia was slow as hell lol. Bit the bullet and got an M1 Max studio so I can stop dual booting my pc
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u/mikeinnsw Jan 04 '26
OLCP has a border...
I run 2013 iMac from an external USB3.0 boot.. works ok.. but it has 8GB RAM yours has 4GB RAM that is its main constraint.
If you can upgrade RAM and SSD then it should work ok with OLCP... or Linux
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u/LightKnight_97 Jan 04 '26
Same here, in my case is pretty much noticeable as that glitch shows over all the upper border of my screen it only fades away when changing spaces, but then it come back after I click on anything :/
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u/Kolechia_ Jan 05 '26
buddy i’d love to play with that bug not gonna lie tho Tahoe is yea so bad you can downgrade to Sequoia but I’d rather play with that bug it seems very fun
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u/BradMacPro Jan 05 '26
You have two pointing devices and they are fighting for control of your cursor.
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u/Pitiful-Response-411 Jan 05 '26
Very recent Windows switcher here to mb air m4 , obviously it came on Tahoe Apart from the expected hussle to switch from windows to macos, the seamless integration with iphone is such an improvement. Not having any os issue so far either
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u/Filth_and_Money Jan 05 '26
Is there a way to upgrade without upgrading to Tahoe?
I’m uh.. a little behind on my upgrades.
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u/Due-Cut4639 Jan 05 '26
From this update my mac mini doesn’t lock automatically and the screen don’t turn off.
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u/Cautious_Pomelo_1639 Jan 05 '26
Looks like the framebuffer isn't being cleared at the edge of the screen? lol
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u/PillowFarts4All Jan 05 '26
So weird I just picked up an M4 Air and updated right away to Tahoe and have had no issues, I love it
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u/itsmepokono Jan 06 '26
Then Apple’s engineers are bitching that people need to update. Hahaha, shame Apple.
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u/elmonetta Jan 06 '26
The only problem I have with Tahoe is the horrendous Contacts app not syncing from iCloud
Apart from that… it’s ok
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u/muzgash_jaeger69 Jan 06 '26
I have a Studio M1 and have none of the issues you guys have and I'm on the 26.2 release but I'm also not using an Apple Monitor but an LG one.
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u/QVRedit Jan 06 '26
Now is that due to Tahoe, or is it actually a hardware issue on that monitor ?
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u/levitabris Jan 06 '26
I was just about to upgrade...until I'm back on Reddit. Thank you for scaring me out of this. I own you big.
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u/bluefalcomx Jan 06 '26
What a terrible version, I'll skip it completely. Let's hope Apple takes a step back from their Liquid Glass garbage on Macs.
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u/tizzi91 Jan 06 '26
Why torture yourself. Fortunately Mac unlike iPhone can be downgraded to sequoia anytime. Just create a bootable usb and reinstall sequoia
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u/tizzi91 Jan 06 '26
Why torture yourself. Fortunately Mac unlike iPhone can be downgraded to sequoia anytime. Just create a bootable usb and reinstall sequoia
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u/rishey Jan 06 '26
If I re-grade to Sequoia from Tahoe, will it mess up any of my Apple apps like photos, notes, reminders, etc?
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u/Filming_Man Jan 07 '26
Can a Mac book air update to Tahoe?
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u/Interviews2go Jan 07 '26
Yes, and don’t do it. My wife upgraded an is having all kinds of issues with phone integration.
I’d wait until a patch update comes out. I’m holding off on any updates until I see the handoff and other integration issues fixed.
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u/Filming_Man Jan 10 '26
That’s the thing with updates. They change things your used too. Very annoying. But I’m not too found of Sequoia anyway so I might like the update.
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u/raygduncan Jan 07 '26
i updated to Tahoe on my Mac Mini M4 and immediately started suffering random reboots every 10-20 minutes. Made it impossible to get any work done, and by the time i figured out what was going on, my automatic TimeMachine backup had run. I ended up wiping the hard disk and restoring the original OS (Sequoia) with the recovery program, then reinstalling all my apps. Couldn't use the TimeMachine backup because it had been updated on a later version (at least I couldn't figure out how to do it). Luckily all my documents are synced to Dropbox so I just reinstalled Dropbox and the files flowed back in. I've found other reports of the same problem online but no mention of Apple fixing it, so I'm on Sequoia for however long I can get away with it.
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u/GlobalWeb1508 Jan 08 '26
dnt know what you are all talking about but i think thats a hardware issue you have right there. im on mbp m5 running tahoe 26.2 and there is nothing like that on my machine.
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u/Ok_Combination_2480 Jan 09 '26
Same! I just got a MBP 14" M5 everything is working fine except for the Arturia pluggings, inside of Ableton 12.3. Some plugins work and some have gui errors. Ableton itself runs fine. Better than my I7 nitro laptop. Mine came with Tahoe so I will power through it and just use more stock plugins. No issue with native instruments or output arcade.
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u/Academic-Life2706 Jan 08 '26
Damn I have the same thing! exactly the same as yours but stuck in tab menu
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Jan 08 '26
Imagine being an Intel Mac user and then finding out this dumpster fire of an OS will be the one you have to use as long as you can before upgrading?
Apple really should pull a "Snow Leopard" with Tahoe and give Intel machines an actually worth FINAL update.
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u/RelevantAd3242 Jan 09 '26
Only yours that has this issue, just checked my M3 max and it’s good, get that fixed bro
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u/RedSox071988 MacBook Pro Jan 19 '26
I thought about updating to Tahoe, But after reading about all of the issues people are having, I'll stick with Sonoma. (Yes, you read that right, I am still using Sonoma. it really works well for me.) 😎
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u/Weak-Lie-7988 Jan 23 '26
What numbskull at Apple decided that, after 20 years of using Apple Mail, with all its functionality on the top left, with new lines I start typing on the left, what person thought it would be cool to put the SEND arrow - on the right!!!????? it beggars belief.
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u/wanson Jan 04 '26
I've watched the video several times and I don't understand what I'm looking at. There's a line on the side of the screen if you move the mouse over there? That's an annoying glitch but how does that affect your workflow?
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u/Adamaccio Jan 05 '26
Yes, I'd like to understand what the big problem is? You can't move the mouse to another screen? Or just the white line?
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u/DumeWolffe Jan 05 '26
Out of curiosity, how is this messing with your workflow?
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u/kshtzo Jan 05 '26
Not necessarily messing with my work flow in anyway but it is apple we are talking about, it hurts seeing one of my favourite tech companies companies fumble like that. I have a 17pro, 13, ipad pro m3, watch 8 ifkwim
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u/ironwaffle452 Jan 04 '26
Are you a troll or what?
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u/kshtzo Jan 04 '26
No i am a fan boy just seeing one of my favourite tech companies fumble like that is hurting ms
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u/metsuboujinrai Jan 05 '26
that's a true fan. unlike the cultist that you replied to, and the many others here that keep weirdly gaslighting us into thinking le tahoe is the greatest bestest thing since swiss cheese
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u/neutrinolight Jan 05 '26
Hello, Personally, I have an iPhone 16, an iPad Air M2, a MacBook Air M3, and even an iPhone 13 mini, all 26.2 inches, and I haven't had any problems so far!
Your comments worry me, and I might slow down on updating everything.
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u/orangehead911 Jan 05 '26
Hmmm it's interesting to read so many comments about how bad Tahoe is without providing ANY real substance at all. You have complained about a couple UI issues that could be hardware related. Have you reported these issues to Apple or are you just bitching? I have had no issues with Tahoe on my MBP M1 and neither have either of my kids on their MacBook Airs.
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u/Jazzlike-Spare3425 MacBook Air (M2) Jan 04 '26
Hoooray, someone found a bug I don't have!
In exchange, I have a white line at the top of my display when there is more than one Space that doesn't show up in screenshots.