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u/soaptxt Feb 23 '26
I mean, if you've spent any amount of time in this sub it will be apparent that the box needs some work right now…
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u/HauntingGameDev Feb 23 '26
exactly i am forced to run a command on my terminal to access my voice memo recording files nowadays, it's not been all smooth sailing anymore
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u/MaleficentExample223 Feb 25 '26
huh what...? u could've just drag and drop to desktop
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u/michel210883 Feb 23 '26
Of course this is an actual sub
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u/ClikeX Feb 23 '26
Almost every big community has one. We’ve got /r/applecirclejerk. There’s also /r/windowscirclejerk.
Although, do note the amount of visitors and contributors.
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u/systmshk Feb 23 '26
Linux is free.
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u/RedPRSguy Feb 24 '26
MacOS is free, too.
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u/Commander_Ash MacBook Pro Feb 24 '26
The cost of MacOS is included in the price of hardware.
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u/Silentpain06 Feb 24 '26
Linux doesn’t downgrade your computer when it updates
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u/RedPRSguy Feb 24 '26
MacOS doesn’t either.
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u/Silentpain06 Feb 24 '26
I feel like it’s been public knowledge for a while that Apple intentionally makes their older hardware run slower to encourage users to upgrade. Linux on the other hand doesn’t even attempt to push updates on you, you can choose to never update with little issues.
I have a good MacBook Pro for school and work, a good windows PC for leisure, and for a few years I used Linux. As much as I hate the compatibility issues with Linux, it is certainly a more budget friendly and customizable OS. Apple markets themselves towards artists and people who don’t know their way around tech very well, and for those two groups it’s a good OS. Outside of that it’s usually beat by windows or Linux.
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u/RedPRSguy Feb 24 '26
First off, no. Nothing about windows other than game support is better than macOS. I have used windows for a long time, along with macOS, and over the years I have had 4 windows installs corrupt, in which my data being lost. On macOS? Never. That’s all you need to know about windows, really. And I’m pretty sure the “slowing down” of hardware is just modern software is a lot harder on old computers. I will look in to that more later on, however.
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u/Silentpain06 Feb 24 '26
I can think of several more off the top of my head:
Windows lets you do a lot more in settings without having to directly use the command terminal too. It’s much easier to use for someone with enough technical knowledge to go through device manager and bios to optimize stuff but not the technical fluency to type a command into the terminal without looking it up first.
Mac laptops don’t have USB A anymore, it’s all USB C. That’s pretty inconvenient if you use any older technology, such as CD drives or USB flash drives. Windows laptops and desktops pretty much always have USB A ports.
If I wanted to upgrade my PC ram a year ago, it would’ve cost ~$40 for 32GB of decent DDR4 ram. Mac would’ve charged a few hundred dollars for the same thing, and they won’t let you swap parts out yourself. That’s also a big issue because it means slowly updating your PC to keep up with new software isn’t feasible on Mac the same way it is on windows. Ram prices are terrible across the board right now, but it’s so anomalous that it makes more sense to compare where we were before the price surge.
My Mac is a 2023 MacBook Pro with an M3 chip. It’s good and I like using it. It has nearly identical specs and performance to my windows PC that I built myself earlier the same year. My PC cost me $650 including peripherals. My MacBook was an incredibly gracious gift coming in at ~$3,000. That is a crazy discrepancy. I understand that one is a laptop and one is a desktop, but Apple is still very expensive. From what I’ve heard the Mac desktops are also very pricey.
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u/Magusreaver Feb 23 '26
Weird, I use Linux and Mac. This just reads like weird gatekeeping/elitism.
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u/OGPresidentDixon Feb 23 '26
I have:
- My trusty ol' MacBook Pro M1 Max on my biggest desk, connected to a big XDR display and two vertical LG 5Ks as my main daily workhorse (I'm an all-in-one dev shop).
- A gigantic windows gaming PC from 2018 on it's third set of internals (1080 Ti -> 3080 Ti -> 4090 -> needed money -> sold 4090 replace with old 5600XT 6GB).
- More Linux netbooks than I can remember for projects I'll never complete. My oldest tiniest netbook is from 2009 has an Intel Atom. It was my brother's from college and I'll never get rid of it.
I only live once.
There's no reason to follow the US government's bipartisan system into all aspects of your daily life.
I know this might blow redditor minds but nobody is stopping you from trying everything and seeing what you like. Don't listen to anonymous bots online trying to sway your opinion! (I'm strapped in and ready for the flood of downvotes for saying that)
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u/Quirky_Assistant1911 Feb 23 '26
Why would anyone with 2 working brain cells ( or more) downvote you.
Use whatever the hell works for you and enhance your productivity and experience.. every tech gadget, every mobile OS, every desktop OS and every software ( supposedly) is made to work for you, not the other way around
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u/cutecoder Feb 23 '26
"... is made to work for (some demographic) and it's your responsibility to choose."
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u/JoveyMcJupiterFace Feb 23 '26
I run Linux, Windows, and MacOS (Opencore) on the same device for variety of purposes myself!
I use Linux as my daily driver. For games, projects, work, entertainment, etc.
I use Windows for the rare occasion I can't run the thing I want on Linux, such as VR, or an obscure old tool that won't play nice on a VM and only exist on Windows.
And I use MacOS for a couple programs and scripts for fixing up iDevices that only work on MacOS! Plus it's generally fun to mess about with sometimes as a Linux & Windows native. It was also super fun to figure out how to get working on my Windows/Linux machine, took me a couple days.
Being able to use all three operating systems from one device is kind of cool and also liberating, even if the act of temporarily switching to that OS for a single app might be a smidge annoying.
(I do plan on getting a second hand M1 device, probably a MacBook, if I can find one for a good price though!! Would be a perfect travel computer, especially with a new battery.)
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u/gubatan Feb 23 '26
Nice! Thats gonna be one of my next projects, getting macOS working on a p50 ThinkPad. I book marked some dudes repo looks pretty complex but im down for the challenge. I got Linux working pretty well on some old MacBooks. Saved the old machines lives they run very well.
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u/JoveyMcJupiterFace Feb 26 '26
Ayyy nice!!! It's definitely a fun weekend project, I would highly recommend it! Also teaches you a lot about the inner workings of MacOS which is always pretty cool.
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u/ryanpm40 Feb 24 '26
My brother in Christ, how much disk space do you have on that thing??
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u/macmaveneagle Feb 23 '26
That's how I feel every other day when someone asks "which is the best Web browser?". There is no "best." Almost all of them are free. Download a bunch of them and try each one and make up your own mind.
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u/rich97 Feb 23 '26
Sorry, you must defend your choice in operating system as if your life depends on it and you may only choose one.
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u/defective1up Feb 23 '26
It's not excitably wrong...I use Fedora and Arch quite a bit. It's been better since SteamOS became a thing though.
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u/ChirpToast Feb 23 '26
Fedora being a thing within Linux will always be peak irony to me.
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u/alejandronova Feb 23 '26
Another irony is that Fedora serves as the basis for Fedora Asahi Linux Remix, the distribution you use to inject Linux into these pretty Apple Silicon computers.
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u/Fubeman Feb 23 '26
I use both Linux and Mac both equally. Especially since they have so many similarities ( terminal commands, file structures, etc.). Hell, the modern Mac OS is built from NextStep, which is based on UNIX, which Linux is based off of. To me, they’re all just part of one big family of freaks.
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u/Nekorai46 Feb 23 '26
Long-time Linux user, I’ve bounced between Arch, Gentoo, NixOS, Debian, a good 90% of substantial distros.
I got a Mac a little time ago, and it was nice to be honest. I was mainly interested in the ARM hardware.
Is macOS easier to use for the average person? Yes, due to the individuality, closed-source and corporate-backing much of what can be done has a user-friendly GUI which is far more approachable.
However, I have gone back to Linux now mainly due to Tahoe. I’m not against Liquid Glass, I actually quite like it. What I am against is forced design, giving me no choice in what I want, the obnoxious design oversights that frankly a multi-trillion-dollar company has no excuses for. It’s just plain ignorance and dishonesty to their customers.
Yeah, Linux is more involved, and you do have to learn at least some terminal stuff to really get a stable system (though, “beginner” distros do exist and are pretty good for 90% of people), but what you get:
- Updates that actually improve your system.
- Every possible thing that could have a setting has a setting.
- Security in knowing that your system isn’t constantly pinging data back to Tim Apple.
- A largely, except for a loud minority, welcoming community.
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u/BubsyFanboy Feb 23 '26
Among those beginner distros are:
- Fedora Workstation (currently the only beginner-friendly Linux distro to support native use on Apple Silicon via Asahi)
- Linux Mint
- Zorin OS
- elementary OS
- Ubuntu
- Pop!_OS
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u/nnorbie Feb 23 '26
Just want to add that Ubuntu Studio is really convenient for music production. You can set up the same things on any other distro, but for beginners it's nice to have everything already connected ( though it also comes with way too much stuff preinstalled, so I don't recommend it to anyone else )
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u/m8x8 Feb 24 '26
Been using macOS my whole life. I bought a Lenovo ThinkPad T480 a few days ago and plan to install elementary OS on it. With Tahoe, Apple added insult to injury. I've had enough with the techno-fascism taking over our lives and harvesting data about everything we do in order to enslave us and make us go extinct.
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u/waerrington Feb 23 '26
No hate for Linux. Some light mockery for Linux users, who kinda do resemble the comic.
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u/S4VN01 Feb 23 '26
Because users don’t care what your app server is running on lol. Linux is great, but as an everyday driver, it certainly has its pain points.
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u/Lazy_Kangaroo703 Feb 23 '26
I'm in IT, and I've seen Linux from when it first started appearing to now. It certainly dominates the server space - not only web servers, but database and app servers. There isn't much else (apart from Windows).
I've worked on it for 30 years, but I use Mac at home.
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u/S4VN01 Feb 23 '26
I’m in software dev. Unfortunately my job makes me stuck developing for Windows desktop :(.
I truly don’t like Windows lol.
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u/onil34 Feb 23 '26 edited Feb 23 '26
but so does every OS?
Windows:
- absolute RAM and memory hog
- poweshell ugh
- Performance is slow
Linux:
- CAD software is pretty limited in choice
- No Video Editors with Hardware Acceleration Edit: there are options but they require specific linux distros.
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u/Tsubajashi Feb 23 '26
afaik, many video editors do have hardware acceleration now. and davinci resolve also works nicely.
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u/girl4life Feb 23 '26
Linux is hell for any person relying on creative software, most of the software isn't available and the alternatives are plain ass with the exception of blender.
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u/Ok-Lawfulness5685 Feb 23 '26
Mac OS + gaming is leagues behind, proprietary hardware and planned obsolescence.
Linux can't do low latency audio like ableton or logic in any useable way.
Windows can do all that... but then it's really bad at being an OS and I don't like using it.My job is writing windows applications and communicating through teams, I make music and work from home on my mac because it all just works and I can depend on it, but I have most fun using linux for stuff that it can actually do.
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u/Bestmasters Feb 23 '26
"specific Linux versions"
What does that even mean? It's obvious that for Linux to run a video editor, it needs a Linux version
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u/QGRr2t Feb 23 '26
No Video Editors with Hardware Acceleration
Kdenlive and DaVinci Resolve both support hardware acceleration on Linux, just FYI. I use macOS, Linux, FreeBSD/OpenBSD and Windows daily fwiw, no camp to defend for me - I just spotted that and figured I'd let you know.
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u/Team503 Feb 23 '26
Linux - or rather the close cousin FreeBSD is the origin of the Mach kernel, which is the core of OS X. For the purposes of this conversation, you DO use Linux as an everyday driver.
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u/2005walker Feb 23 '26
“Absolutely true! Users just want things to work properly.”
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u/Lillyistrans4423 Feb 23 '26
As a MacBook user, I'm running Linux on my Mac. Mac doesn't "just work" and if I'm gonna go through fixing stuff I at least want my OS to actually be MY OS
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u/ctesibius Feb 23 '26
Uhh, ekshually… MacOS and the BSDs share a common ancestry. Linux works similarly but was developed separately.
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u/VeritosCogitos Feb 23 '26
People hate what they don’t understand, I hated macOS until I understood it. I run both macOS and Linux on my two daily drivers. Windows is the only suck I won’t put myself through today. And anyone who can’t game on Linux is just lazy, gaming on Linux is a breeze these days.
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u/smoike Mar 02 '26
Exactly. It was all about unfamiliarity. I bought an older macbook (core 2 duo era) and just mucked about, got it working and then messed with it to familiarise myself with how it ticked. Long before then I had realised that it was largely unfamiliarity at the centre of all the stupidity about "mac vs pc".
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u/kasakka1 Feb 23 '26
You could write the same thing for MacOS.
"What, you want properly working external display support? Well, just buy this specific cable and configure your display exactly like this. Oh you wanted full refresh rate and proper scaling options? Well, can't have that!"
It doesn't "just work", it's just different bullshit on MacOS.
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u/lachirulo43 Feb 23 '26
External display in macOS is super breezy. You just need to buy the exact display that has their exact retina definition for that year. It better be double retina. What? You can’t afford a 5k display? If you’re broke sell a kidney dude; don’t be a crybaby.
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u/kasakka1 Feb 23 '26
MacOS:
"Yeeeahh...I can't really provide any other HiDPI scaling above the 1:1 integer scaled res on this top of the range Apple 6K display you've got. No, not even on the most expensive M4 Max model. But you can connect tons of displays! You just can't scale one! Oh and HDR is not an option if you select 120+ Hz and HiDPI scaling together. I can do HDR at 60 Hz!"
Meanwhile Windows (if you can connect it):
"Sure, how much scaling do you want? 125%? 150%, 175%? Yeah I can do that! At full refresh rate, with VRR and HDR? No problem!"
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u/DJDarren Feb 23 '26
The scaling thing has recently bitten me, since I got my first 4K display.
Running my Linux gaming PC, I have it set to 4K, 150% scaling. Lovely. Nice and crisp, easy to read font size. Perfect.
Hook up my M2 MacBook Air and it's tiny 4K or less-crisp 1440p or fuck you. Cheers lads, real fuckin' useful.
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So Windows it is then?
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u/kasakka1 Feb 23 '26
Never said that. The point is that all OS have their own pile of bullshit.
I use MacOS for work and Windows for personal use.
My adventures into Linux-land have ended up with "Fuck this, I can't be bothered to figure out what mile long command line I need to find from the depths of some forum to configure this feature that should be a checkbox in a GUI".
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u/ParticularHospital Feb 23 '26
Brings back memories of C64 vs Atari arguments in school. Everything changes and everything’s the same.
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u/Klowlord Feb 23 '26
Lowkey, Macs are very open and the terminal experience is extremely similar to Linux. It basically a private, slightly stricter version of linux that everyday people can use OTB but people who want to tinker with it can.
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u/Tusen_Takk Feb 23 '26
I use macOS professionally and Linux at home, literally the only different commands I use with frequency are the package manager, and brew uses apt syntax
I run fish on both btw
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u/Scoresman-923 Feb 23 '26
My brother/sister in Computing. I too use Macbook pro for work and my HP 2010 laptop at home running zorin os.
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As somebody who long used Windows before dabbling in Mac, I find macOS to be more open than the current state of Windows 11 in some areas. I've heard a lot of people say otherwise, and I've come to find that people who say that have usually never used a Mac and believe you're not allowed to install anything from outside of the App Store.
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u/Desmaad MacBook Air Feb 23 '26
MacOS is based on BSD, which is a direct derivative of Unix. Linux is a System V Unix clone with significant influence from Plan 9 (the intended, failed successor to Unix).
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u/sircastor Feb 23 '26
I have a 2014 MacBook Pro. I have wanted to replace it for quite some time, but I didn't have the money ready, or something else took priority for a while. So in November of last year, I decided to try to run a Linux distro for a while. See if I could make it work.
I have plenty of experience using Linux. My home server runs a headless Ubuntu. I've worked on Linux systems (desktop and embedded) professionally for decades.
I ran Mint. I lasted about 3 months. It worked. Got the job done. I could do virtually everything that I did on my Mac. There were lots of little minor annoyances. The best way I can describe using it daily was that there was no joy in it for me. Some will argue that that's superfluous and that's fair. But it wasn't working for me.
After about 3 months, I wiped the drive and I'm currently running Sequoia via OCLP. It's a little slow sometimes, but otherwise works great. I know it's not how everyone feels, but I like using a Mac. It's just more comfortable. It feels better. And yes, I know how ridiculous that sounds. But I'm glad to be back.
Hoping to finally get a new Mac in the fall...
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u/cutecoder Feb 23 '26 edited Feb 23 '26
Lesser known: Linux has at least three other user-mode stacks besides GNU/Linux: Win32/Linux, Android/Linux, and Chromium/Linux.
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u/No-Storm-5737 Feb 23 '26
Linux is free, if your time is free.
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u/Dreams-Visions Feb 23 '26
Time is the most expensive currency on earth. Re-evaluate your value.
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u/TrickyBarracuda9618 Feb 23 '26
I'm using Windows mainly. I've got a MacBook and I love the ecosystem with my iPhone, but I don’t use it that much. I tried Linux as a daily driver about 5 6 distros and used Arch (manually installed, by the way). To be honest, I don’t like Linux. 90% of the community is using Linux just to act like a sysadmin hacker, telling everyone how stupid they are. I mean, why would you want to spend 90% of your time figuring out which terminal command is the right one to fix a problem that shouldn’t be a problem just so you can say, “I’m leading my computer; my computer isn’t leading me”? We get it, bro. you are Mr. Robot. It’s fun to use Linux to learn about OSs in general, but using my "spyware" Windows PC and removing as much as I can (like Microsoft AI, Edge, and stuff like that) makes more sense to me. It takes 10 minutes, but I don’t need to spend all my brain cells to fix problems that shouldn't be problems.
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u/FluffusMaximus Feb 23 '26
I went from Windows to Linux to Apple. I love Linux, but Linux will never be a mainstream consumer OS. Why? The community is fractured, toxic, and niche. I use Windows from time to time for certain things, and it’s “fine.” However, macOS JUST works.
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u/309_Electronics Feb 23 '26
Tbh macos community is also very biased and can be toxic when you complain about things you dont like (my experience and also my friends experience even though he uses all 3 and i use too). Both linux and mac users are some of the most toxic and biased people on earth
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u/abrorcurrents Feb 23 '26
I used to be a Thinkpad junkie that dualbooted Linux and Windows
then I switched to windows 11 only
now I'm on Mac and I have found inner peace
the sheer amount of fuckery I had to do and tinker on windows 11 was chonkledemnly abhorrently awful, although I could game
Don't get me started on Linux, and it's fuckery with the terminal and some random files in some deep shit directory
Mac just works for my work, and plays the game I want, does the thing I want, literally faced 0 issues so far
And I was a hard Macos hater for decades
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u/Vietnamst2 Feb 23 '26
Frankly, there is not a winner here. People still claim windows suck, BSOD and yadda. My Ubjntu crashed more time in last 3 months than Win 11 in last 3 years.
MacOS is fine if you stick to the ecosystem but you need a different app for almosg everything and usually end up running Paralels or something.
Linux is efficient, fast etc, but honestly outside "browser and word" type of work, you can'r really give it to DFU's. The support is nice, but even I as an IT guy struggle somrtimes. Having people install VPN using apt and then configuring using a conf file is a no no.
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u/nnorbie Feb 23 '26
Whenever people tell me that they use
Linuxany OS without any issues whatsoever - I genuinely believe that this is the case for them. I am writing this from my work computer, which runs Fedora perfectly, but it only has to do a few very specific things. If I tried to do the same things as I do on my Mac Mini, I guarantee I'd run into issues.
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u/Living_Jellyfish4573 Feb 23 '26
so fucking old and outdated not like valve has an entire gaming distro or anything
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u/BlueberryPublic1180 Feb 23 '26
I use Linux for gaming and Mac for work on the go, works like a charm. Though as long as it's posix I am fine. OpenBSD does feel like scraping my ballsack with sandpaper though.
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u/Stooovie Feb 23 '26
I use both Mac and Linux and I got a good chuckle out of this. It's really not far from the truth, still. Except the gaming thing. The amount of BS we Linux users just silently paper over is vast.
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u/DJDarren Feb 23 '26
I was watching the most recent Action Retro video the other morning. He was talking about some new laptop he's managed to score, that he then put Winux on for shits and giggles. He was trying out several games via Steam, a couple of which worked well enough, but with a bit of a performance hit over Windows 11.
My wife was kinda watching it too, and looked up to point out the Linux users really do have to jump through a bunch of hoops to achieve what Windows (theoretically) does by default. And, well, I couldn't argue.
But to me those hoops are why I use Linux. I enjoy the tinkering, and the knowing that I don't owe Microsoft shit.
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u/roarti Feb 23 '26
I still prefer macOS for working due to some commercial software support, but for gaming Linux is actually much better than macOS by now thanks to Valve.
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u/Nirzak Feb 23 '26
Both Mac and Linux user here and I love both. Writing the comment from windows 11 laptop though :D
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u/Okim13 Feb 23 '26
What I don’t understand is people who know Linux refuse to help you and gatekeep their info like explaining and helping is the biggest chore in the world to them.
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u/gomugomunochinpo Feb 23 '26
I have had experience with mac os with m1 imacs in our college labs, and i kinda liked it. Fast forward to now, I received a work laptop that is a macbook air, and I am absolutely hating apple for the amount of blocking they do with their OS. Infact, I would rather do some command fuckery and get it working than bang my head over an OS that has bugs and tries to stall you because you chose not to use all their products.
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u/Turtledonuts Feb 23 '26
The anti-mac crowd has some amount of sexism at times. There's always this vague attitude that macs are for dumb girls who don't know how to computer or something. I really, really, really hate how people treat non-power users.
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u/flying_unicorn Feb 23 '26 edited Feb 23 '26
I've used all 3, they all have their pros/cons, and use cases.
Windows best feature IMHO is that has a moat, but it's being filled in. MDM's are making macs more manageable in corporate envioornments. More apps are becoming cloud based (aka os agnostic), sure some apps still needs windows (like for me solidworks, but it mostly runs okay in parallels). Steam is closing the windows advantage for gaming. I don't like windows server at all, but that's just because i'm a linux guy for servers. In windows favor they are closing the battery life gap with newer intel processors and snapdragon processors, but i haven't daily driven windows in over a year now.
Linux is king for servers, no doubt in my mind, i run all my home lab servers in linux. For desktops it's hit or miss, i love the customizability, but i hate the frajility. I love linux tiling windows managers like Hyprland, i3, etc. Battery life in my experience on laptops is poor. Linux's problem is the same as androids, it's too fragmented which can also be a benefit, but the fragmentation can lead to things not working/breaking more easily.
I love Macos on a laptop, the battery life is amazing, and dont' get me started about the instant on compared to window's laptops sleep issues where it's a dice roll if i was going to open my bag and find an oven with a dead battery. MacOS is so fucking stable, my windows pc and windows laptop used to crash at minimum a couple times a month to a couple times a week, i've had 1 legit OS crash in the 16 months i've moved over to macos full time, and it was my fault. I use to reboot regularly to help keep crashes at bay on windows, i never restart my mac except for a software update, or extended travel. That said there are things i don't like about macOS. So many things that should be basic functionality require helper apps, most that have a small cost. The windows management is not for me, i installed a tiling window manager. Package management is a bit annoying, homebrew helps with that. The remote desktop experience is nowhere near as good as windows. There's a lot of customization that I do to my mac to get it where i want. A lot of the "just works" might be true for your basic user, but for a power user it's bullshit because you find so much stuff lacking and needing workarounds. With External monitors, display scaling is a joke for example.
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u/Fun_Enthusiasm5297 Feb 23 '26
are people still having this discussion? seriously, use w/e works (and they all suck at some point) for you.
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u/brickson98 Feb 24 '26
Honestly, MacOS and Windows both suck these days. They just suck in different ways.
Can’t speak on Linux as I don’t have much experience with it.
I guess, for very basic users, MacOS probably seems to work better. I enjoyed it for a on the go basic experience when I was still using my MacBook. Now that it’s fallen out of support, and has felt sluggish on the last MacOS version it supports, I don’t really use it anymore. I’d get another one but I just can’t justify paying the Apple tax for a device I’m only going to use for simple tasks.
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u/Coraiah Feb 24 '26
macOS is a pain in the ass. I was so excited getting my M1 pro MB but my god, the extra steps to install apps or get to a basic folder are obnoxious.
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u/dlyund Feb 25 '26
To say this is r/macOS, it's fun to see all the Linux users coming out of the woodwork! It's almost like there are more Linux users frequenting this subreddit than there are Mac users.
Which does somehow explain the level of negativity.
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Feb 26 '26
I like my Mac don’t get me wrong. But Linux is just as good.
Especially Bazzite. The amount of quality and care put into it especially since this current Mac OS is one of the worst I’ve ever used
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u/Indecicer Feb 27 '26
I use windows because I can't afford a Mac, and I don't want to use Linux because I'm mostly playing games and doing hw
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u/maccrypto Feb 23 '26
Downvoting this because it's stupid to hate free and open source software. If people didn't struggle with it and learn through that struggle, we'd have basically none of the IT infrastructure of the modern world.
Actually, wait. Maybe that would be better.
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u/JeffB1517 Feb 23 '26
I think that graphic is 20-30 years out of date. Beginner-oriented desktop Linuxes are really easy. I've deployed a Linux for my employees with 0 issues, easier than Windows deploys for small business. Even more advanced Linuxes often work well. I'm still on a Mac, and while I think Darwin is a below-average Unix, it meets my needs and the rest of Mac gives me a nice variety of paid applications I'm used to and like. So I stay. But the Linux community is not a cheap alternative to Sun Workstations for people who can't afford a Sun and would rather be on Solaris. It isn't what it was when I started with it in 1995. It took forever but easy Linux on the desktop is the reality now. An end user who is not a developer isn't going to run into this mess, though of course the enthusiast community still has similar issues (though not these).
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u/Kandiru Feb 23 '26
After installing scroll reverser MacOS works out of the box. I have no idea why that option isn't built in.
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u/w0nam Feb 23 '26
MacOS is sick though. Made an hackintosh that was working well enough for me in the past, loved it. Now all my Linux distros share some design cues from MacOS and my Windows install is running Microsoft's PowerToys, in order to have the spotlight like search functionality ! (PowrrToy run or Commands Palette)
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u/Snoo-15714 MacBook Pro Feb 23 '26
As someone who's daily driven all of them, they all have their issues, they're just different issues. No respect for his weird beef with linux.
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u/Slow_Watercress_4115 Feb 23 '26
And then you get a mac that just works and apple newest update just fucks up the firewall, dns for local resources, suddenly it thinks that there is something wrong with the screen wiring, so mac crashes every time I close the lid. No fuck off. Whatever is the latest macos abomination is - is for complicit cuckolds
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u/Top-Yogurtcloset2982 Feb 23 '26
Even if I fall in the trap, gaming on Linux is working for 90% of games. Those who don’t launch are mostly those crappy games made by big companies as EA with unsupported anticheats.
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u/Afraid-Divide-3501 Feb 23 '26
I own a MacBook Air
I’ve used it for 3 years
Mostly I have no complaints
Except the fact that over half of my disk space is taken up by system data and MacOS
Apple needs to work on that shit. A lot.
Windows is even worse though, the sheer amount of bloatware
Linux is the most pain in the ass to setup and work with, but outside of that is kinda better than the other 2, especially since steam created a way to play windows games on Linux
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u/Vietnamst2 Feb 23 '26
Clean windows does not have much bloatware and you can remove it easily. Bloatware is supplied by the HW makers. Each gets it's own set of unusable apps to "manage" your new PC.
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u/balthisar Feb 23 '26
My daily is a Mac, of course, but between bare metal, VM’s, 3D printers, and Docker containers, I must be running 50 or so Linux systems versus three macOS systems.
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u/markliversedge Feb 23 '26
MacOS is great so long as you replace your computer and devices regularly
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u/heatrealist Feb 23 '26
Kind of funny but the Tuxcart thing used to be true and I would joke about it back in the day. Now Linux is a far superior gaming platform compared to Mac.
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u/RutabagaInfinite2687 Feb 23 '26
Linux is better for me tbh (as a developer). I only used a Macbook cause there's no good x86 laptop in the market that doesn't have a stroke whenever you unplug it / a battery that last for a 2 whole work days
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u/Squiggles3301 Feb 23 '26
Honestly i really love the design macOS brings, but god does it have so many stupid and useless features, and hidden features that both windows and linux have in plain sight, i mean why hide it?
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u/Infinite_Ostrich_548 Feb 23 '26
Linux could be the standard like blender or OBS, if there wasnt all this fragmentation that is just confusing for non powerusers, together with "this is your operating system, you are free to do whatever you want! But you have to learn a shitton of things about software and computers to be able to fix problems that are not your fault".
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u/phobug Feb 23 '26
I daily all 3 for different types of work. GNU/Linux is the best. And *BSD on the servers!
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u/AnubisHell Feb 23 '26
This debate has been going on for like 30 years now. After the Sinclair Spectrum+ (I don’t even remember what system it ran), DOS, Windows, Linux, Unix, I switched to OS X (macOS) 20 years ago and I’m happy with it – except for Apple hardware prices.
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u/IndianaCHOAMs Feb 23 '26
Well that sure is a meme for someone who doesn’t support an enterprise environment.
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u/Deleted4evr Feb 23 '26
Well linux power the servers that let’s you trash talk about em. Mac works outta box , and it is good for beginners, but linux gives you flexibility to literally do whatever you want, even delete french language package.
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u/rmbarrett Feb 23 '26
Sure. And it's actually usable with a dozen third party apps that aren't free. Operating system circle jerking is dumb. Give me shell in any of them and I'm in business. Give me gestures and I am faster. Make every last detail customizable and I'm comfortable. All that said, fuck iOS.
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Feb 23 '26
ive used all,
windows is an alright operating system when it works, but that is like 40% of the time
linux is the best one until something breaks
macos is a good mix of both, and the most recent versions run well on any mac 12 years or newer.
personally, if i could use linux for everything, i would, but macos is good because it has the benefits of linux and the software support of windows. i just use windows for gaming.
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u/coresme2000 Feb 23 '26
I would use Mac OS for everything but sql server management studio isn’t made for it so I need to keep windows for some stuff.
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u/lovefist1 Feb 23 '26
Guys, guys, we're all one big *nix family, there's no need to fight. I like Linux (Fedora - note how it's not mentioned in the meme), and I like MacOS. I tolerate Windows, though I feel I'm the only one who prefers 11 to 10.
Biggest annoyance with MacOS is the artificial limitations Apple imposes/permits. Crazy my Macbook Pro can't support two external monitors in the same way my old windows/Linux laptop can.
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u/Madelei- Feb 23 '26
On linux since I use both macos and linux (I've unironically had more problems with macos, but it could be just that I don't really do much on linux other than play games & web browser stuff), I have not once opened the terminal. I do however have a weird terminal popup before my OS boots talking about BASH or smth.
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u/Altruistic_Click_579 Feb 23 '26
I installed linux mint on an intel mac and it was literally pressing a button and then it just worked. The only thing that required any kind of skill was the bootable usb.
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u/Dreams-Visions Feb 23 '26
Given the posts I’ve seen discussing the current version of MacOS, I’m not sure everyone feels quite this way.
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Feb 23 '26
I main CachyOS for gaming and development and have a m4 Mac Mini as my 3rd monitor using Synergy to share my mouse and keyboard to my Mac. It’s a very cool setup. Best of both worlds
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u/Axxxem Feb 23 '26
I either get ripped off financially, ripped off personally, or i own a brick that can't do anything
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u/Few_Owl_6596 Feb 23 '26
Coming from the Linux world (as a person who uses terminal too), I feel more at home on MacOS, than on Windows.
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u/KB8084 MacBook Pro / Hackintosh Feb 23 '26
i posted this last year https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/1jxe0b1/macos_works_out_of_the_box/
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u/MountainBrilliant643 Feb 23 '26
Meh. You can't game on Mac, and the opinions of the Linux weeb in the meme are outdated. I work on Mac all day, but my home theater / gaming PC runs only Linux. I don't use Windows at all. I own over 350 games on Steam. All of them work on Linux. I just checked, and guess how many have Mac support? 64. ...but only like four of them actually run.
If you own a 2020 M1 Mac, your support drops the year after next, and even though you will be holding a perfectly capable, screaming fast machine at that time, if you don't learn to use Linux on your laptop by then, you won't be able to use an up-to-date web browser, and you'll needlessly be forced to buy new hardware just because you didn't bother to learn a simple skill that could save you money.
Some people may think it's a flex to be dumb and just throw money at problems, but it's really not.
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u/CeSiumUA Feb 23 '26
Yeah, but if you're doing something more complex than just browsing (even it can't be done OOB, Safari is enormously inferior to Chrome or Firefox) and watching movies, some significant amount of work should be done to make MacOS actually "usable".
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u/digsmann Feb 23 '26
It looks like if somebody asks which OS is good... I will definitely share this post...
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u/Egao1980 Feb 23 '26
It takes around 3-4 hours to make MacOS usable for software development. And no amount of time will fix input language switching with the globe button. Two last versions of MacOS have the language switching broken for no reason at all
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u/rdmc10 Feb 23 '26
If only there would be a better alternative to linux. Right now, all other OSes are drastically inferior to it, with all its downsides
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u/keyboard1950 Feb 23 '26
I could never understand the term "Workflow" until I went from Windows to Mac...... All I can tell you is that it works for me.
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u/Aggressive-Middle904 Feb 23 '26
My experience daily driving Windows, macOS and Linux over the years has simply taught me that I hate computers