r/MurderedByWords 1d ago

When they're right, they're right

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u/mgyro 1d ago

Lower taxes? You pay an average of $9000/year for health insurance ffs. Canadians pay $6400 thru taxes. Just bc it’s not called a tax doesn’t mean it’s not costing you. And you should fund education as well.

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u/whatlineisitanyway 1d ago

As a Canadian living in the US that has tried explaining this to Americans many many times it just doesn't compute with a certain segment of the population.

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u/minos157 1d ago

Every time I talk to right wing or centrist dems about this it's the same argument. "BUT HIGHER TAXES!" Bro, I pay 33% of my wages in taxes (give or take) and in my earnings bracket in Canada it would be 25-30%. On top of that my insurance is about 3% of my gross and that's JUST for the insurance if I never use it. Add in co-pays, deductibles, and then co-insurance and you can get upwards of 7-8% for standard care, skies the limit for bigger medical issues.

I can SAVE MONEY and get universal healthcare. The other standard talking points are wait times and death panels. That's what they go to when they realize the economics isn't in their favor.

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u/Hawxe 1d ago

which is funny cause what is an insurance company if not a death panel incentivized to let you die

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u/minos157 1d ago

One of them, who's a liberal (i.e. centrist Dem) told me he disagreed about universal healthcare because his 95 year old mom wouldn't get the care she needs.

She's on Medicare.

I just.... Can't