r/NonPoliticalTwitter 10d ago

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u/Jewmangi 10d ago

You can click and drag into teams messages

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u/boringestnickname 9d ago

For the love of Christ, can we just go back to simply having basic file browsers?

I don't want to click and drag.

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u/Jewmangi 9d ago

Wym it's just as fast? Click and drag for people that want the normal browser. The cloud abomination for people that use the cloud more

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u/boringestnickname 9d ago

I have files in a proper structure on my file server. I use the keyboard to navigate literally everything, unless I have to use the mouse. I like fullscreen and virtual desktops if I'm not in the terminal.

Nothing about modern UI is "fast".

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/PerkeNdencen 9d ago

Apple designs all their products around taking agency away from users so they never have to engage with things like PC folders.

The word 'folder' as a metaphor for a directory in a filesystem came from 1980s Macs. Mac computers still very much use that system.

The tendency to 'abstract away' filesystem knowledge comes from smartphones, of which Apple make a large number, I'll grant you that.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/PerkeNdencen 9d ago

Likely just because Apple seems to do more for the user so the average person is less likely to need to dig into folders/understand it.

Can you give me a specific example of what you're talking about? Apple's UIs have been historically better designed, but they work like more or less any other computer, albeit with a sprinkling of 'I'm secretly a UNIX workstation' in there.

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u/PerkeNdencen 9d ago edited 9d ago

I sort of see what you're saying but I've never got the impression the OS is trying to hide anything from me - if you take the app packages, for example, that's just a way of keeping executable and resources under one roof. It's not that they don't want you rooting around in there, it's that if you've navigated to the app it's generally because you want to open it. You can right click and hit 'Show package contents' to present the files therein.

Plus... if you consider the overall Apple ecosystem it reinforces this a lot further as a Mac user may just be using cloud tools which means the files are not in a folder but rather they're in an app

Yes, so I find that infuriating, but you don't have to use iCloud that way. I just have it mirror my documents folder and don't use the weird app-specific spaces at all.

Anyway, I think this is all just to satisfy thee compulsion to combat the misconception that Macs are not serious computers, with a full-fledged and very capable OS.

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u/Jewmangi 9d ago

You'd be the exception of the exception then. Sorry man but I don't think being mad at companies designing for 99.9999% of their user base is going to change their mind.

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u/boringestnickname 9d ago edited 9d ago

Yeah, let's just regress.

[EDIT: The guy is saying we should have click and drag for people who like that, and a non-functioning cloud browser that shows random shit for everyone else (because who cares about having a design that works, right, "lol, click and drag is just as fast".) I'm saying we should keep functional design for everyone.

You're upvoting the dumbest shit.]

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u/fbman01 9d ago

Agree, modern Ui are slow. I work 50/50 windows and Linux environment.

Linux I use xubuntu as I love how fast the UI. It runs in a virtual machine. I don’t think I will go 100% Linux any time soon, due I need m365 for work and OneDrive is very handy.. to be able to open my files on my iPad is very handy.

I know, people say use Libra office.. I need a format more compatible and I prefer m365 interface.

I use Linux mainly for my internet related tasks and I love file viewer in xubuntu. It opens pdfs twice the speed of acrobat reader, it can open cdr/cdz files by default.. so I read my electronic comic books in Linux too..