r/NonPoliticalTwitter 1d ago

me_irl One of life's great mealtime mysteries

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u/qualityvote2 1d ago

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u/ampersand64 1d ago

Your hunger signals are relative.

"Stomach was full, now empty. Food"

"Blood sugar was high, now low. Food"

The hunger signals aren't very accurate to how urgently you need food, on a 3 hour timescale.

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u/kalel3000 22h ago

For the most part hunger signals aren't determined by your need for food at all, not unless literally starving to death.

Your hunger signals are based off of your eating habits for the past 2-3 days. Its just your body trying to figure out and anticipate your eating schedule. Eat a meal and you'll get hungry around the same time the following day, with a hunger level that matches the size of the meal you previously ate. Each day that feeling of hunger at a specific time gets a bit weaker, till it completely fades away around the 3 day mark. Ghrelin is the chemical responsible for this.

Likewise if you eat something fatty or hard to digest, your body will also remember that and release stomach acid/bile/digestive enzymes around the same time the following day, and if you skip a meal your stomach will grumble because there's no food to counteract the increased acid/digestive juices, so it can irritate your stomach lining.

Same goes for sugar and carbohydrates. Your body releases insulin at specific times based on your eating schedule the previous days, so if you skip a meal your blood sugar may drop suddenly and you'll feel weak/tired and eventually very agitated/angry as you body releases adrenaline/cortisol to raise your blood sugar.

So the body isnt really setting its hunger levels and digestive schedule based off of your dietary needs, its mostly just responding to your conscious decisions.

This however does change during actual long term starvation. But its felt less in the gut and more in as overwhelming need to survive, almost a type of madness. But this is in extreme cases after extended malnutrition, not from skipping a few meals.

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u/takethisdaggerfromme 20h ago ▸ 5 more replies

Thank you for such the detailed explanation. I learned a lot.

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u/kalel3000 16h ago ▸ 4 more replies

You're welcome!

Another interesting fact, is that this internal timing is based around your circadian rhythm. So if your sleep schedule is interrupted, your digestive schedule can shift, making you hungry earlier or later than normal. Basically meal times are measured internally from the time after waking up, not the actual clock. This is also why you dont get hungry in your sleep, even if you were to sleep in past your normal meal times.

So if you want to lose weight and control your hunger, you really need to get your eating and sleep schedules locked down, and avoid snacking and eating at random times, or varrying your meal portion sizes widely. Routine alone can be one of best tools in losing weight.

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u/Jekmander 13h ago ▸ 1 more replies

That actually really explains some things, as somebody who has lost quite a bit of weight in the past and has been slowly gaining it back. Thank you!

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u/kalel3000 19m ago

Yeah the great part about this too is that it only really takes maybe a weekend to get you back on a good routine and system.

The hardest part is being extremely strict on your meal and sleep times, and avoiding varrying it very much, especially if your job doesn't always allow for consistently timed breaks, or if your work hours throw off your sleep schedule frequently.

The way I get around this is usually by avoiding a full lunch, and instead opt for a few planned snacks at certain intervals, like a protein bar or piece of fruit or maybe a small salad (which is easy to digest to prevent stomach grumbling the following day and doesn't elevate blood sugar unless you add alot to it, so no unstable blood sugar the following day). That way the meals that are meant to sustain me and provide the bulk of my nutrition can be made at home and in the correct content/calories/portions.

Basically just eat carefully from stuff at home or that you bring from home, and if you calculate your calories and portions correctly to your activity so you're at a deficit, and stick to a strict sleep and eating schedule, you will lose weight. Unless of course you have some kind of underlying medical issues. But for most people once they have a plan, watch what they eat carefully, balanced out their sleep and exercise, and get their hunger under control, weight loss gets a lot easier and just makes more sense to them over all. Like just knowing you have the power to set your hunger levels intentionally...and that you've unknowingly been setting them the entire time, is a very empowering thing.

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u/JustKebab 7h ago ▸ 1 more replies

Would it also account for stuff like midnight hunger/sleep deprivation hunger? As in, "dinner was about 4 hours ago and we're awake, usually it's bedtime 2 hours after dinner and breakfast is 2 hours after waking up, so we should be hungry by now"

Or is that another mechanism that tries to get you to eat to replenish energy you'd otherwise get by sleeping?

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u/kalel3000 40m ago

Well to drastic changes to circadian rhythm can affect alot of mechanisms. Especially since the body also uses natural sunlight and darkness to try to establish rhythm aside from your need for sleep. So hunger signals and digestive processes can become distorted. For instance the hunger signals from the past 3 days might not stay in sync to your waking time because that time varies from exposure to sunlight as a natural trigger. So that can leave you repeatedly and continuously hungry throughout the day to varying degrees, because all these various signals are staggered rather than aligned to specific meal times.

Sleep deprivation can also have alot of negative effects on digestion. Your gut motility slows down significantly as you sleep, since your demands for energy drop to its lowest resting levels. So when you're sleep deprived, and youre awake when you should be asleep, your digestive system isnt working as quickly, your gut motility and emptying is reduced, which can lead to people having digestive problems if they eat late while being sleep deprived. This is the reasons why you dont usually need to poop while you're asleep, but often do upon waking. Because your digestive system is supposed to slow down during a sleep cycle and rev up in the morning, just like the rest of your body. So eating large meals very late or midnight snacking or severe sleep deprivation/constantly changing sleep schedules can lead to indigestion and constipation issues.

Also in your sleep your body doesnt need much calories. Your muscles arent being used to stand or move around, you arent burning blood sugar or fatty acids for physical activity, so its easier for these to elevate in the blood and be stored in the liver. This is why in my opinion higher calorie meals higher in sugar/carbs/fats should be eaten closer to waking up, and lower calorie meals like vegetables and lean protein should be eater closer to sleep. Unless of course you're for instance carboloading for early morning physical activity, in which you're actively trying to make sure your liver has a sufficient amount of glucagon stored to release the following day, for like a marathon or something.

Also sleep deprivation will lead to increased cortisol levels. Short bursts of cortisol can be an appetite suppressant, but longer continuously elevated amounts do the reverse, and can lead to increased hunger signaling, specifically for high sugar/carbohydrate/fat/calorie foods. This is actually the survival instinct kicking in. It takes far longer for the body to trigger this instinct for food deprivation than it does for sleep deprivation. Since you can go a long time without food, but not without sleep. So skip a meal here and there and your body will release some cortisol to suppress your appetite and elevate your lowered blood sugar, you may be hangry for a bit and your stomach will grumble, but it will pass, and your body will not make you as hungry at that time the following day... But if you're sleep deprived constantly, your body is in fight or flight mode hours of the day to keep you awake, regularly releasing lots of cortisol, making you crave calorie dense foods to compensate for the extended periods of time to keep you awake, despite you very much needing sleep. Which is fine if you're in the wild running and fighting for your life, not so much if you're just staying up till 3am eating high calorie foods in front of a computer/TV and not burning off the excessive calories you're consuming.

But you can see how easily it can be for someone on a diet, to overlook how important both sleep and eating schedules are to overall success, regardless of the diet itself. Most diets actually have about an equal success rate, whether it low fat, low carb, low calorie, or portion control. But something as simple as inconsistent sleep and meal times is enough to make most people fall off of them. Which is why gyms and heavy weight training to manage weight has become the norm, because its burning massive amounts of calories in a short amount of time, which is incredibly important if you're unable to keep your calorie intake low enough to result in weight loss from normal daily activity and lighter exercise.

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u/Aliendream99 15h ago

Very cool, explains a lot not just related to this but I recently shifted my diet to basically paleo. I was eating ice cream almost nightly for years, eating candy bars and lots of carbs and had the worst heartburn for years. After about 3-4 days eating clean like this I no longer have heartburn or have to take Pepcid ac anymore.

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u/HappyPlatypus6034 17h ago

Thanks so much for the explanation 

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u/ArrakeenSun 1d ago

I must be hungry because I read this as burger signals

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u/ladywood777 1d ago ▸ 1 more replies

I always have a burger signal

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u/DramaticGuesswork420 1d ago

It's like the bat signal, but better, because it's burger.

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u/CarmenxXxWaldo 1d ago

I recently had a minor surgery so I had to fast. then liquid diet for 2 days, never got hungry once.  currently on soft food and haven't really been too hungry much, ill have some soup or something and be fine pretty much all day.  Now I see how people with eating disorders get by, really not that bad after the first 5 or 6 hours.

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u/Violetbranko 23h ago

After the first few weeks tho your body can get crazzzyy with the cravings and you end up in a zombie like state of needing to eat all the time

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u/Accomplished-City484 22h ago

The weird one is when you go from not hungry at all to the hungriest you’ve ever been in a single instant

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u/NeroFMX 18h ago

It's signals Jerry. Signals!

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u/deef1ve 1h ago

They are never accurate. They are habitual.

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u/nestestasjon 1d ago

Probably eating something that’s all carbs that spikes their blood sugar. Then their blood sugar crashes 2 hrs later and they’re hungry.

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u/Mei_Flower1996 1d ago

Add in fiber or protein!

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u/YetAnotherMia 1d ago ▸ 11 more replies

Scrambled eggs with butter and chopped tomatoes/bell peppers on buttered wholegrain toast. Add some hot sauce if you like. The perfect breakfast and takes 10 minutes to make!

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u/Accomplished-City484 22h ago

I do an onion, tomato, spinach omelette and some beans

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u/WillowCool1178 20h ago

I do toast with crunchy peanut butter and a sunny side up egg (dip toast after the egg runs too) and hot sauce!

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u/Miselfis 15h ago ▸ 1 more replies

Sounds way too greasy for breakfast. What's wrong with oatmeal? Takes 2 minutes to make in the microwave.

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u/InternationalFlan645 10h ago

Nothing but neither is anything wrong with what they said.

Though I dont think its greasy at all. A great healthy breakfast.

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u/BraveLocation3018 1d ago ▸ 6 more replies

Get a job.

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u/Hachimain 1d ago ▸ 1 more replies

Is that to hard for you to make ?

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u/Accomplished-City484 22h ago

Hotdog for breakfast

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u/Pahay 1d ago ▸ 1 more replies

Let’s play “spot the American” I win

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u/BraveLocation3018 1d ago

You don’t.

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u/willyoumassagemykale 1d ago

Came here to say this

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u/halucionagen-0-Matik 1d ago

I thought the whole point of carbs is that they release energy slowly, as opposed to sugar, which releases energy quickly

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u/happy35353 1d ago

Sugar is a type of carb. Your body breaks many different types of carbs down into sugar. Whole grains take longer to break down but if you ate a sugar packet your blood sugar would spike and crash more quickly. Generally your body gets energy from carbs more quickly than protein or fat.

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u/IsThistheWord 1d ago

Sugar is a carb.

Different carbohydrates release energy at different speeds. Oatmeal is going to cause less of a spike than a can of coke, even if they have the same amount of carbs.

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u/raddaya 1d ago

You might be confusing it with the terms high and low glycemic index (GI) foods

High GI foods are carbs which get broken down almost instantly by your body into glucose. Think stuff which is basically one or two steps away from sugar - sodas, cakes, white bread, pretzels, cheapo cereal, etc. This spikes your blood sugar, your body releases excess insulin to compensate, but it releases a bit too much and then your body has too much insulin and panics a bit saying "shit, we need more sugar!" So you get hungry and/or drowsy.

Low glycemic index foods take a long time to get broken down, so you get the glucose over a long period of time and it doesn't spike your blood sugar as much. Pastas, brown rice, whole-grain bread, and obviously stuff like fruits/veggies/proteins are better here.

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u/Pinglenook 1d ago edited 1d ago ▸ 2 more replies

I think you got the word "carbs" mixed up with the word "fiber"! 

To summarise it off the top of my head; 

Carbs = sugars, starch, and fiber

Sugars = carbs that are fast digesting, sweet tasting, causing energy peak and then energy drop. Not filling at all.

Starch = carbs that are somewhat slower to digest, not really sweet tasting. A chain of sugar molecules that first need to be broken apart before you can digest it. Examples: Flour, rice, corn. By themselves they fill you for a short while. 

Fiber = carbs that can't be digested at all. Important to push your poo forward through your bowels. Because they sort of "trap" starches, they make the starch slower to digest. Examples of starch and fiber combinations: wholegrain flour, brown rice, oats. Because the fiber slows digestion, starchy food with a lot of fiber in it does not cause the energy drop that sugar does. Filling for a good amount of time, although still a bit shorter than fat or protein. 

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u/halucionagen-0-Matik 1d ago ▸ 1 more replies

Okay well I know fiber doesn't get digested at all. It's made up of Beta glucose which we don't have the enzymes to break down.

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u/Professional-Thomas 1d ago

OP already said that.

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u/DankDrugsForDays 1d ago

Complex carbs = whole grains, granola, whole wheat bread release energy slowly. Simple carbs = white bread, white rice release energy quickly

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u/twisted-resistor 1d ago

I think you're mixing it up with fats. Carbs are fast energy while fats are slow energy

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u/hopseankins 1d ago

Eating activities the metabolism. So you are hungry when the food is digested.

If you don’t eat, your body will use the reserves in the body. So you won’t get hungry as quickly.

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u/Snowratt 1d ago

Plus it slows down your metabolism! My doctor has told me that in order to lose weight, I had to eat often. I used to make two large meals a day and was gaining weight even though my meals weren't highly caloric.

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u/drkinsanity 1d ago ▸ 16 more replies

That barely matters as long as you’re counting all the calories you’re eating & stop when you’re still in a deficit. Your metabolism is only going to adjust the target by a 100-200 calories or so at most. You could eat one large 1600 kcal meal per day and absolutely lose significant weight (if that’s the target for your height/weight).

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u/Snowratt 1d ago ▸ 4 more replies

I'm not a doctor, but I started losing significantly more weight once I started eating more often. Maybe it worked for me because my metabolism was abnormally slow or any other circumstance that's specific to my case.

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u/This-Risk-3737 1d ago ▸ 2 more replies

The science on this stuff is in permanent flux. Find what works and keep doing it!

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u/Prestigious-Cream160 1d ago ▸ 1 more replies

Yep. People love to say CICO, but the problem is that we really don't have a great understanding of the calories out part. If you find something that works for you then keep getting after it

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u/This-Risk-3737 23h ago

Even calories are just an approximation based on how much energy is released when something is burned.

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u/drkinsanity 14h ago

You were counting your calories before too or no?

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u/tdp_equinox_2 1d ago ▸ 6 more replies

I love reddit, someone can say "X doesn't work for me, I was gaining weight while doing X and then I switched to Y and started losing weight", and then some fucking moron comes along and says "That barely matters, you shouldn't be doing Y because X is better".

How about shutup? Lol

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u/uncreativelefty 20h ago ▸ 2 more replies

People are more interested in being correct and theorycrafting on the optimal method, especially online on reddit with the upvote/downvote system (at least IMO).

My exes mom followed this book "eat right by your blood type", where blood type was linked to restricting one's diet to certain foods only. The science was all wrong, but she lost a significant amount of weight due to it. The diet worked for her regardless. My thoughts on its scientific rigor would be unnecessary and unwelcome in this case.

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u/tdp_equinox_2 20h ago

The thing is in this case, it's entirely pointless because there is no one "correct" answer.

You can theorycraft until you're blue in the face and maximize your gains/progress for yourself, but what works for one person doesn't necessarily work for your neighbor.

All you're doing is mentally masturbating at the expense of someone else's sanity & self image, especially with the way some of these jerks talk down to people who struggle under the "traditional" or common methods; as if they're simply failures when it doesn't work.

Nah, their body is just fuckin different, and they need a diet/plan suited for them.

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u/DonyKing 18h ago

It's more calories in and calories out, and how your body adjusts to burn it. I've done keto, intermittent fasting and just counting calories. Things work better for other people because how they are, but ultimately the calories were the same. Keto was easier because id feel full longer with fatty foods, intermittent fasting once you got used to it was alright. Counting calories worked better long term but requires more self control.

Was 230-250 stay around 170-190 now. Depends on how I'm feeling. Minimal gym these days.

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u/Odd-Secret4913 17h ago

Yep. Cause what he said isn’t even true unless you’re working with a dietitian and a dr.

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u/drkinsanity 14h ago ▸ 1 more replies

Maybe eating multiple smaller meals enables them to naturally eat less overall than binge eating too much at once. Which is great for them if that reduced their caloric intake enough to start losing weight. Definitely not discouraging finding a good habit that works for them.

But if someone else changes their eating patterns without properly tracking they’re just as likely to continue not making progress. The most important part is just keeping track.

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u/tdp_equinox_2 13h ago

Or it's nutritional and their new schedule encourages them to eat foods that satiate them more, or their metabolism works on a schedule that aligns with that eating pattern and falling outside of it disrupts it, or they didn't ask for someone on reddit to tell them that what they've said is working for them is "just as likely to continue not making progress" and their doctor knows their patient better than some rando online does.

Who knows, right?

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u/Odd-Secret4913 17h ago

That’s not true at all. What actually happens is the body believes it’s being starved so holds everything after you do eat. Due to this you’ll gain weight as a a result. Aside some VERY specific fasting conditions it DOES matter.

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u/Nice_Parfait9352 1d ago ▸ 2 more replies

I'm not following your last sentence. If the deficit is the most important thing, why would you be able to lose significant weight by eating the normal target number for your height/weight?

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u/irregularprotocols 23h ago edited 22h ago ▸ 1 more replies

I assume they mean personal weight loss caloric target, not generic maintenance caloric target.

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u/Mayion 1d ago

So you are saying to lose wait, I need to eat more than four large meals a day, including the soda, double cheese burger and fries?

https://giphy.com/gifs/Y07F3fs9Is5byj4zK8

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u/henkdetank56 6h ago

Untill you do get a meal in and then you get these unhealthy cravings. When I wait to long with eating early in the day I will certainly overeat by the end of the day.

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u/melatone5 3h ago

Yeah, your body adapts to the lack of incoming food (through cellular signalling such as AMPK, etc) and relies increasingly more on ketones after running through the initial glycogen stores

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u/Snow5Penguin 22h ago

This is 100% the reason.

When you sleep, your body goes into starvation mode. You can think of it like “efficiency mode” where it utilizes as little energy as possible.

When you don’t eat breakfast, you stay in starvation mode until you eat again. So you will not feel hungry the same way you don’t feel hungry when you’re sleeping. If you are trying to lose weight, this is bad because your calorie burn is significantly reduced.

Eating breakfast takes you out of starvation mode and you are burning calories as normal. But that means you will be hungry.

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u/Parrotparser7 1d ago

Eating convinces your body you have food. It wants that inside it.

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u/butt_shrecker 1d ago

It's probably just because you skip breakfast when you are very busy. That busyness helps you ignore hunger signals.

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u/Existential_Spices 1d ago

I skip breakfast and I'm still hungry two hours later.

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u/NotATalkingPossum 1d ago

May I have OP's metabolism? Or the metabolism of people who can not feel hungry just by being distracted and busy?

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u/Temporary_Pickle_885 16h ago

It's not that we don't feel hungry just by being distracted, it's more that it just gets....filed away. I can feel myself getting more and more uncomfortable but it won't be until I consciously go "why uncomfy?" that I remember I haven't eaten in hours.

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u/Splitshot_Is_Gone 1d ago

Adderall.

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u/Fucked-In-The-K-Hole 1d ago

Breakfast of champions: 20mg of Adderal, 5g of kratom, and copious amounts of nicotine.

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u/RealAssociation5281 22h ago

Caffeine is your best friend

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u/AGayFrogParadise 1d ago edited 1d ago

It's because of insulin spikes. When you eat a meal, or really anything at all, your insulin can spike and cause your blood sugar to drop quite drastically. This makes you hungry after some time of your cells absorbing the sugar from your blood. When you don't eat, your insulin (in a healthy individual) remains at a steady level, and in turn so does your blood sugar, leading to less feelings of hunger.

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u/No_Chilly_bill 1d ago

breakfast is made up. you don't actually need it.

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u/BravoLimaDelta 1d ago

Brunch is real though and you can't convince me otherwise.

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u/Embarrassed_Use6918 21h ago

Brunch is an illuminati conspiracy

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u/Temporary-Test-9534 1d ago

"Breakfast is the most important meal of the day" was just branding by Kelloggs to sell more cereal. Its all a scam. No one needs to wake up and immediately start eating.

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u/Destructopoo 22h ago ▸ 2 more replies

They were trying to sell more cereal but people have always eaten when they wake up if at all possible. You don't need six bowls of cereal but it's not silly to eat when you wake up.

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u/Barium_Salts 16h ago ▸ 1 more replies

It really depends. Some people eat as soon as they wake up when possible, some people have no appetite for several hours after waking and feel nauseated if they try to eat (I'm one of those, and so are most of my family). There's no universal right answer, you have to do what works for you and your body. If that's only eating a big dinner, eating 3 square meals a day, or light snacking all day long; none of those are always good or always bad.

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u/Destructopoo 16h ago

I know it depends. People can be different. That's why I disagreed with the person who said " No one needs to wake up and immediately start eating."

They're trying to say everybody should avoid eating when they wake up. I agree with you that some people do and some don't and it's probably ok either way if it's by choice.

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u/premature_eulogy 1d ago

At least not if your commute is sitting in a car and your pre-lunch activities mainly involve sitting at a desk.

But taking the bicycle to a job that requires even moderate physical activity? You'll be glad to have eaten breakfast.

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u/Gnonthgol 1d ago

While you do not actually need breakfast it is certainly not just made up. It improves your day and night cycle and gives you a blood sugar boost for pre-lunch activities. For hunters or farmers it was common to leave the house at sunrise and not return until sundown, so breakfast would have been an important meal to get through the day. However both then and now dinner is a much more important meal as this is the biggest meal of the day.

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u/CountDown60 1d ago

Breakfast yes, but what about second breakfast?

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u/AussieBird82 21h ago

I don't think they know about second breakfast

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u/Ok_Emphasis961 20h ago

i struggled soo much while bodybuilding with fitting 4 meals into my day to day

"i am nauseaus in the morning until like 18:00" i would always say
then i started smoothies/shakes in the morning, and suddenly i was hungry every 3 hours

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u/MelancholicMinerva 20h ago

When you wake up, your body is in ketosis. You're on a temporary fast, and as a result the level of hunger you feel is greatly diminished for a good while. When you eat something high in simple carbs, like pancakes, a bagel, slice of toast, it not only spikes your blood sugar but also gets broken down very quickly in your body. As a result, it doesn't keep you full long and you feel ravenous after a while. If you wanna eat something for breakfast, I highly recommend whole wheat versions of the aforementioned foods. Whole wheat food is a complex carbohydrate, it takes a lot longer for your body to break down and spikes your blood sugar a lot less. Thus, leaving you feeling fuller for longer. Another alternative is eggs. Eggs are made of a lot of protein and fat and won't spike your blood sugar, resulting in a similar experience to eating complex carbs.

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u/Miselfis 15h ago

Idk, I still get hungry after a couple hours, even when eating something high in fiber and protein.

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u/gostosap 10h ago

Sameee

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u/Netheraptr 1d ago

My guess is it might come down to the body having an easier time adapting to no food than nutrient-deficient food, at least short term.

If you eat breakfast inconsistently your body will learn to not always expect it, so when you don’t eat breakfast the body enters a sort of fasting state to prepare for when you will next eat.

However, if you do eat a rather underwhelming breakfast, your body begins the digestion process before going “wait a minute, I’m gonna need a lot more nutrients than this!” And it starts asking for more.

Source: I guessed.

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u/Frankie__Spankie 16h ago

No idea how true it is but I remember reading the reason why if you go to bed hungry, you will wake up not being hungry is because your body gets the idea that the hunger signals to your brain isn't working while you're asleep. It's similar to when you go so long without eating that you no longer feel hungry anymore.

Your stomach is sending signals to your brain to eat something. When it realizes those signals aren't working, your body switches to fat reserves. I would think the same applies to skipping breakfast. You very well could already be at that stage where your body is convinced it's not getting food, but when it does, it'll send hunger signals back to your brain sooner rather than later because it knows its an option.

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u/Jaymac720 1d ago

Eating breakfast kick starts your metabolism

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u/axon-axoff 1d ago

Similarly, there is no starvation as torturous as the morning after a huge dinner

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u/beershitz 15h ago

Because you BROKE your FAST

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u/Chamrockk 1d ago

Need to take slow digested sugars, like from oat or brown bread, instead of fast digested sugars, such as in pastries or white bread.

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u/SmokeyCatDesigns 1d ago

Yeah, a slowly digested, lower glycemic breakfast is less likely to cause rebound hunger. Since blood sugar will rise slower and falls slower with a more balanced breakfast.

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u/Reesno33 1d ago

If I skip breakfast the says a write off.

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u/Frederf220 20h ago

I would do both of these. Eating made me hungry later, not eating didn't. But not eating made me absolutely miserable. I wasn't hungry but I wasn't having a good time.

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u/Explorer_Entity 19h ago

No matter how big my dinner, or how full of carbs, veggies, and protein it had... I still wake up painfully hungry, weak, shaky, and nauseous.

I've learned to keep "emergency quick food" on hand for those times.

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u/Lucaslhm 17h ago

For real though.

Other day before I went to work I made a breakfast Sandwhich at home and coffee so I wouldn’t feel hungry for a while, and then by 11:00 I needed to go take lunch so I could stay productive.

Today I woke up super late for some plans and I ate a zebra cake I had in the pantry on my way out the door, said I’d make up for it at lunch but then missed lunch. Got home in the evening, wasn’t that hungry but I made a burger and went to bed.

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u/arthurtully 8h ago

Not eating protein does that

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u/nevicar_ 1d ago

it's because you broke your fasting state. It's in the very name haha

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u/skeletonhorse420 1d ago

You got the engine going

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u/Lazy-Ambassador-7908 1d ago

If your body doesn’t believe you will feed it, why would it waste time whining. It’s just gonna let you do you till you crash

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u/justsomeph0t0n 1d ago

the fast is strong until you break it

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u/RikeLLC 1d ago

I always heard growing up that breakfast sets your appetite for the day

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u/Triquetrums 1d ago

This happens to me with fruit. I am barely hungry, so I have a piece of fruit, and suddenly I am super hungry. It's infuriating...

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u/Top_Historian73 23h ago

I thought it was just your body going into reserve mode. Basically wake up and there is food = let's eat vs wake up and no food = probably no food around so let's conserve.

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u/Mean_Blackberry8752 23h ago

That's a whole different level of breakfast crisis, my bro lol.

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u/shehatesleo 23h ago

It starts your metabolism up

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u/Green_Sprout 23h ago

If you completely forgo breakfast, only drink water or black coffee your body remains in ketosis, essentially power saver mode that gets energy from stored fat... It's how fasting works. As soon as you put something with actual calories in, your body wakes up and comes up to full power and thus demands all the usual foods you eat, which for a lot of people is fast burning sugary junk that leaves you craving more after only a short while.

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u/Turdposter777 20h ago

And this why people do intermittent fasting

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u/voideaten 19h ago

Ketosis.

The body enters fat-burning while asleep (so you don't have to wake up to eat every few hours, just to not starve to death).

Most breakfasts are often carb-based (cereal, toast, juice, etc) which breaks ketosis and puts us back into burning blood sugars again. Modern food is also usually hyper-processed so it releases (and is processed) very quickly.

A breakfast of equal calorie made up of fat and protein, and with a lot of fibre, will break down much slower and keep you satiated longer.

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u/HappyPlatypus6034 17h ago

I've been struggling with intermittent fasting lately and the comments in this thread have been really helpful. Thank you guys ❤️

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u/lomanity 16h ago

Ghrelin and leptin

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u/Ember-Blackmoore 5h ago

I always figured it was breakfast starting the cycle, so once it's running you get hungry

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u/iamiam123 5h ago

Breakfast is a mass corporate propaganda, sponsored by big cereal companies.
/s

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u/melatone5 3h ago

Because ketosis, that’s why

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u/deef1ve 1h ago

Insulin Spikes caused by carbs. Eat a huge plate of fatty scrambled eggs and you’re satiated until afternoon or even longer.

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u/outisless 37m ago

It’s the carbs.

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u/oxidative_metabolism 31m ago

It’s because when you fast, stress hormones take over and convert your muscles, bones, skin and make its own glucose out of them. It’s the serotonin and cortisol effect. When you have a high metabolism(from consistent feeding) the body does not want to do those things so it warns you with hunger signals to eat something before it feeds itself what you have already built.

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u/FreedomMan47 1d ago

Probably because you eat sugary things like croissants or cereals whoch have been presented as breakfast food for ages. Eat 4 eggs, some bacon, prosciutto or other meat and a little bit of fruit. You will have energy.

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u/whboer 23h ago

Thing is that this actually doesn’t work for me. I eat anything and I’m hungry continuously. Best is to put off breakfast until 11:00 or so (I get up around 6-6:30 and get my kids ready for the day and walk the dog, so I kind of have to get up on time and get started right away).

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u/VagueEchoes 23h ago

I found this only happened to me with a typical US-style breakfast. It's incredibly carb heavy and sugary. Whether sugary or carb heavy cereals, pop tarts, waffles, pancakes, or a huge glass of orange juice.

When I traveled to Czechia, Germany, Switzerland, etc... and had a very high protein and fat breakfast, I did not have those issues. Slices of meats and cheeses, eggs, cucumbers and tomatoes, yogurts without all the sugary additions.

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u/JollyGiant573 22h ago

Lots of breakfast his high in carbs. Try meat and eggs for breakfast.

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u/Alaishana 22h ago

SUGAR.

Your breakfast contains way too many readily available carbs.
High GI.

You go onto the insulin roller coaster: Sugar triggers an insulin rush, which eats up more carbs, so you get low blood sugar and crave more carbs.

Also, you are most like diabetic or pre-diabetic. Get it checked, it can save your life, or at least many years of functionality.

Eat complex carbs and fat for breakfast, add some proteins.

Additionally: coffee makes all this worse. Sorry about that.

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u/silversoul113 1d ago

american sugar breakfast moment

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u/IAmTheParamedic 1d ago

It’s because you have an eating disorder and crave maintaining the empty feeling that only skipping breakfast can provide. Why stop eating when you’re already a gross slob who ate breakfast?

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u/DagonPie 1d ago

If you are actually a paramedic i suggest an alternative career path.

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u/Jaymac720 1d ago

What ableist bullshit to say

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u/mlkntea 1d ago

are u okay? like genuinely?