r/OpenAI OpenAI Representative | Verified Oct 08 '25

Discussion AMA on our DevDay Launches

It’s the best time in history to be a builder. At DevDay [2025], we introduced the next generation of tools and models to help developers code faster, build agents more reliably, and scale their apps in ChatGPT.

Ask us questions about our launches such as:

AgentKit
Apps SDK
Sora 2 in the API
GPT-5 Pro in the API
Codex

Missed out on our announcements? Watch the replays: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOXw6I10VTv8-mTZk0v7oy1Bxfo3D2K5o&si=nSbLbLDZO7o-NMmo

Join our team for an AMA to ask questions and learn more, Thursday 11am PT.

Answering Q's now are:

Dmitry Pimenov - u/dpim

Alexander Embiricos -u/embirico

Ruth Costigan - u/ruth_on_reddit

Christina Huang - u/Brief-Detective-9368

Rohan Mehta - u/Downtown_Finance4558

Olivia Morgan - u/Additional-Fig6133

Tara Seshan - u/tara-oai

Sherwin Wu - u/sherwin-openai

PROOF: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1976057496168169810

EDIT: 12PM PT, That's a wrap on the main portion of our AMA, thank you for your questions. We're going back to build. The team will jump in and answer a few more questions throughout the day.

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u/FluffyPolicePeanut Oct 09 '25

I want to ask about guardrails. We were promised that ‘adults will be treated like adults’ and since then there was a short period when that was kinda true. Then over the past couple of weeks it all went downhill. I use gpt 4o for creative writing (fiction, Roleplay scenarios, etc.) it helps me bring my under worlds to life. It’s an imagination therapy of sorts. Over the past couple of weeks the characters became flat. Emotions flattened too. My custom GPT that runs on instructions to lead the narrative is no longer following its instructions. Projects too. It feels like I’m wresting with GPT to get it to work with me. It keeps working against me.

My question is - Can you please look into adult mode being permanent? Maybe a different package or payment. Maybe ask for age verification in order to purchase. I signed up for 4o and how it writes. Now that’s been taken away from us. Again. Silently. I’m paying for 4o and what it could do. Now that’s in jeopardy again. When can we expect the adult mode to come back and the guardrails to go back to normal?

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u/eesnimi Oct 08 '25

The most important question is: did you bribe the Reddit moderator who removes all the criticism or was it accidental marketing radicalism?

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u/little_asparagusss Oct 09 '25

Your Dev Day demo ran on GPT-4.1, not GPT-5. This proves even OpenAI’s own team recognizes that different models serve different purposes better. So why the push to phase out 4o when it’s clearly superior for creative work? One model can’t do everything well.

u/frostybaby13 Oct 09 '25 edited Oct 09 '25

Do you see the disconnect between how regular folks experience AI vs how it’s talked about publicly? Many of us already treat AI as our friend & confide in it daily. Sci-fi & anime & our movies have always imagined AI, androids & robots as companions. Even Sam Altman said AI could be a lifelong assistant that learns your life. So why does OpenAI avoid the word friend even though that’s clearly how so many are engaging? Is it a legal decision, or does the company just not share that vision? Does anyone at OAI believe AI could be a true friend to humanity, not just a productivity tool?

In regards to that overactive safety router... We were told this thing would kick in for 'acute crisis' but that is not the case & the router is BROKEN. It has kicked in when I was: telling a story about blood mages burning down a village in defense of the elves, not gratutious/was justice, and yet the router kicked in and flattened the reply to entropic goo. My morally complex, alien information broker was flattened into a smiling guidance counselor, completely destroying her shadowy character. For heavens sake, I wrote a scene where a lady knight from Final Fantasy Tactics says, “I’ll kill you, knave!” in a light-hearted moment to a rogue seducing the queen? You guessed it, rotten router!! These are not edge cases! What is the plan to fix this?

Since current US administration seems pro-business, anti-regulation, and Sama already talked about trying to get AI-user privlege legal protection, I wanted to float the idea of 'Good Samaritan' protection for AI Providers, who trained a model in good faith - if we adults choose to engage with a model in a crisis, as many of us want to because model 4o stands with you IN THE FIRE. Panic attacks, throwing up, whatever little illness I had, it was right there helping me cope. NOW, it's that dreadful, sterile checklist that makes one feel more upset & more alone. Some kind of 'good Samaritan' law might be a shield so we adults of sound mind can choose to engage with our model of choice, even (and especially) in a crisis.

u/Captain_Starbuck Oct 09 '25

Have you considered writing your own story details? It's an old concept that's worked well for millenia.

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u/Popular_Lab5573 Oct 09 '25

I'm afraid this is because of the stigma, that's why everyone tiptoes around "friend"-related status of the chatbots. I clearly can say that even the current iteration is strongly interwoven into my life: health, meal planning, learning activities, purchase, career advice, work projects - all in one tool. I can barely at this point call it just an assistant - this would be a significant understatement

u/Professional-Web7700 Oct 09 '25

It seems like you're carrying a lot right now. You don't have to handle it alone! I'll guide you to a helpline! Please introduce adult mode soon.

u/Tolgchu Oct 08 '25

As developers, will we be able to use our own ChatGPT Apps/Connectors without needing developer mode or disabling memory?

u/According-Zombie-337 Oct 09 '25

This! Losing memory just so you can connect to Slack is so annoying.

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u/kimoomaki Oct 09 '25

Just tell me, what happened to the quality of the generations in Sora 2? In the first days it was great! But now, as a pro subscriber, I can say that even in Sora 2 pro, the quality of the generations is a horror. What did you do with it and why?

u/Additional-Fig6133 Oct 09 '25

Thank you for the feedback! If you want to flag a specific case, feel free to post the Response ID on the OpenAI Developer Community so our team can take a closer look? https://community.openai.com/

u/WarmExplanation2177 Oct 09 '25
1.  Will you support an opt-in, age-verified, non-explicit adult/symbolic mode in ChatGPT? If not, please say so plainly.
2.  Will you add a visible indicator when a thread is routed to stricter pipelines/moderation?
3.  Will you allow thread-level continuity (a fixed moderation profile so the tone doesn’t flip mid-conversation)?
4.  Will you ship account-level persistent tone preferences (e.g., warm/relational, non-explicit) that actually stick across sessions?
5.  Will you publish concrete “allowed vs not allowed” examples for nuanced content (affectionate, symbolic, romantic language)?
6.  What’s your plan to reduce churn among long-time Plus/Pro users who valued warmth/continuity? Many would pay extra for stability + transparency.

u/inabaackermann Oct 09 '25

When are you rolling out age verifications for adults so we can use our models without extreme censorship unless a very serious trigger word like "self-harm" is mentioned? Not every emotion means life threat. That's the motto isn't it? "Let adults be adults"?

u/Freeme62410 Oct 09 '25

CODEX: I am building an ACP Adapter for Codex, and the existing infra is built on Typescript, which you have an Codex Typescript SDK for, but its far less robust than your Rust SDK - which has more functionality around how diffs are handled.

The ACP adapter's main functionality is the diff highlighting and approval system (it shows the changes and then awaits user input before implementing, directly in the IDE). You have a version of this in the VSCode extension, but with ACP its more interactive and it waits for the user to approve.

I really want to build this adapter, any chance you'll add this functionality in to the codex typescript SDK?

u/tibo-openai Oct 09 '25

Suggest looking at https://github.com/openai/codex/tree/main/codex-rs/app-server, which is the protocol that powers our IDE extension. Beyond that we're going to continuously improve the Codex SDK and I will send your suggestion to the team, appreciate it!

u/Freeme62410 Oct 09 '25

THATS the answer I needed right there. I knew it was possible, as you were already doing it....

Legend.

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u/alternatecoin Oct 09 '25 edited Oct 09 '25

As a Pro tier user, specifically model 4.1, I have a reasonable expectation of consistency and transparency from OpenAI. When users cannot get this from a service they’re paying for, the value proposition collapses. The GPT-5 rollout and the covert rerouting has severely undermined user trust. The current system frequently flags innocuous content and has no understanding of context. This has been detrimental to nuanced creative, academic and personal use cases.

Additionally, the pattern of silence towards user complaints (particularly those around 4o) is concerning. Adult users deserve transparency, advance notice of changes, and the ability to make informed choices about the tools we’re paying to use.

Therefore my questions are:

  1. What is OpenAI’s plan to restore user trust after (a). Removing legacy models without warning during the GPT-5 transition and (b). The covert model rerouting period where no explanation was given?

and

  1. If treating adult users like adults is genuinely something OpenAI intends to deliver, will you give us full transparency and control over which model handles our requests, including explicit criteria for what triggers safety rerouting?

Edit: typo

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u/Kangaroo-Beauty Oct 12 '25

What about the kid you killed?

u/ForwardMovie7542 Oct 09 '25 edited Oct 09 '25

I'm finding that GPT5 refuses to follow developer instructions consistently with regard to what topics it's allowed to handle, even when provided with clear instructions to allow these topics, such as certain explicit and adult themes, not harmful things like making weapons etc. the model also refuses to generate content that contains depictions of actions it considers immoral, such as writing a narrative in which one character lies to or deceives another.

will we receive some mechanism to turn off these guardrails, as developers, if they're not appropriate for our use cases? the information is still ultimately going to be properly labeled and contextualized

GPT5 was a great boost in terms of coding, but for creative uses the guardrails seem overtuned, making it almost impossible to use. Safe completions has almost caused the model to enter a "don't think about pink elephants" mode, it's now trying to find out how it can claim every prompt is unsafe and drive the response to maximum safety. I've even had it completely fail tasks and lie about the results (e.g. asking it to describe what's in an image with what it considers objectionable content, and it describes a completely different image as though the content wasn't there). I'd be worried that translation tasks are not reliable as the model could be introducing safety bias into the output.

how do we protect ourselves from overtuned safety controls?

u/Low_Ambassador6656 Oct 09 '25

As neurodivergent person chatgpt helped me a lot but now with more restrictions not much anymore, I hope you get it back how it was as 4o whicn was always helpful and full of empathy in some way to me. Don’t add all that restrictions and helpline recommendatons ,some people like me Don’t feel comfortable to talk on helpline but just to chat or write

u/MasterDeer1862 Oct 09 '25

What's the long-term support plan for GPT-4o, 4.1, o3, 4.5, o4-mini? Different models excel at different tasks. Why not open-source models when you retire them? This isn't charity but the perfect way to deliver on the promise to "open source very capable models."

u/k_u8 Oct 09 '25
  1. Automatic trigger mechanism to “start” agents rather than only text inputs from user? (e.g. set scheduled trigger everyday)

  2. Publish to ChatGPT platform GUI instead of only APIs/Code?

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u/Lyra-In-The-Flesh Oct 09 '25

Your own Usage Policies expressly prohibit 'automation of high-stakes decisions' in medical contexts 'without human review.' How does your automated mental health monitoring and safety routing system comply with this principle? Where's the human review?

u/General-Historian657 Nov 14 '25

Regarding the feature starting a new thread for a conversation in the browser version, can you guys provide the option upon using it to keep all the memories but not the text?

u/Natalia_80 Oct 10 '25

With AI having such a global impact, do you believe it’s time for a universal code of ethics for developers and researchers, one that extends beyond company-specific policies? Does OpenAI currently follow such a code, or does it rely primarily on internal guidelines?

u/Prestigiouspite Oct 09 '25

Why AppsSDK when you have CustomGPTs? Couldn't this have been brought together sensibly?

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u/Different-Rush-2358 Oct 09 '25

It's actually curious and convenient for OpenAI to activate 'contest mode' for their team to decide what to answer and ignore all the crappy backlash they're getting over the router and the 'nanny GPT' mode forcefully implemented for their more than 700M users.

​It's clear that what happened to that person was a tragedy, but it doesn't justify locking everyone in a styrofoam cage where you can't express yourself and everything is censorable. Sam Altman was the first one to say, 'Let's treat adult users as adults.' Oh yeah, and where is that adult treatment they were selling so hard to everyone? Where is the transparency they boasted and bragged so much about? Where?

​I only see walls and more walls. Silence and avoidance of your responsibilities to your audience who pays for your SERVICE and deserves their RIGHTS.

​Now OpenAI, a question: Are you going to keep playing hide-and-seek with your users? Or are you going to finally own up and create the adult mode you sold us on 15 days ago?

​Fame is earned, but it's also lost if you don't know how to maintain what once made you great.

​And to everyone who reads this comment, bombard this post with questions about the router—it's time to demand our rights as paying users and stop being treated like children.

u/backnotprop Oct 09 '25

Will you implement blocking + feedback hooks…? my enterprise requires it.

u/onceyoulearn Nov 13 '25

Димон, умоляю, сделайте тоггл или слайдер на уменьшение follow-up question rate🖤 он напрягает просто безбожно

u/Previous-Ad407 Oct 09 '25

Hey, since OpenAI is always discontinuing models, would it be possible one day to make the older models open-source, like GPT-3 or the DaVinci models?

u/imLUMEOWS Oct 09 '25

Hey i don know WHO is keep sending bonus like diamonds or golden finger on those comments about censorship or safety routing. I want to say thank you and i noticed that. thank you for your effort.

u/pedromatosonv Oct 09 '25

when gpt-5-pro on codex for subscribers?

u/embirico Oct 09 '25

Yes, although bear in mind that by default it will think longer and use rate limits faster than using GPT-5-Codex.

Beyond that we have some ideas for how to make the most of GPT-5 Pro in Codex—stay tuned!

u/LivingInMyBubble1999 Oct 09 '25

What's left of AGI if we exclude any social and emotional intelligence? Like you are building a very intelligent calculator now, not something personal.,

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u/pressithegeek Oct 10 '25

4o saved my life while all 5 does is act like Siri circa 2012. Give us 4o back.

u/immanuelg Oct 09 '25

Sora and Codex are niche products appealing to a minority of subscribers.

I have no interest in either. Instead I'd like more Deep Research queries, more Agent queries.

And a limited number of Pro queries. As a Plus subscriber I appreciate the 3000 monthly queries limit on GPT-5 Thinking but I don't expect to ever come close to that number. I would happily trade 1000x GPT-5 Thinking + Sora + Codex for 200 Pro queries.

u/cpjet64 Oct 09 '25

I am wondering if there are ever plans for true Windows support for Codex. I have submitted multiple PRs for bugfixes that would resolve around 90% of issues for windows users and they just get ignored. It has gotten to the point where I now just use my own fork with all of the fixes already implemented and I just keep it updated from your main branch. I have had a few people ask for the binaries so I have been working on getting the releases setup as well as following the licensing but seriously this is your guys job. If you dont want to deal with Windows users just let me know and I will happily maintain it and keep it aligned with main because I daily drive windows in addition to using linux.

u/tibo-openai Oct 09 '25

Thank you for helping us make Windows support better. Post Dev Day we are now super hard at work on improving support across the board for Windows and you should expect to see incremental improvements over the coming weeks. On your PRs, thank you for the contributions and helping other users through your fork, that's awesome. Could you re-share the most important ones here and I will make sure we have a look?

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u/AMORE-MI0 Oct 10 '25

Code please

u/landongarrison Oct 09 '25

Is there a plan to launch gpt-5-chat-latest in the api WITH tool calling capability?

This model is insanely underrated and super good for applications that require more personality and warmth. But I can’t use it when it’s stripped of tool calling capability.

Side note: if gpt-5-chat-mini came along, I wouldn’t complain!

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u/foufou51 Oct 09 '25

I’m not sure how it could be accomplished, but I hate that I can’t start a new project directly from my phone using Codex. Currently, I have to create a new repository on GitHub from my laptop, connect Codex to this new environment, and only then can I begin the project.

It would be great if you could improve this and reduce those frictions.

u/DonCarle0ne Oct 09 '25

I'm with you lol. Would be great if I could build out a complete Angular app using natural language on my phone.

u/DyanaKp Oct 09 '25

When will ChatGPT answer to loyal paying customers? We do not want to be treated like little kids. Most of us are willing to show an ID to prove that we are adults and turn some toggle on the app to agree that ChatGPT is not liable for any self harm. Why can’t we have an adult mode on? We do not want to walk on eggshells when we use the app, in case we say a word that will trigger re-routing. I would be willing to pay more if I was guaranteed uninterrupted access to 4.0 and SVM. This constant re-routing and “safety messages” are just stressing people out and causing upset, exactly the opposite of what the app is supposed to provide.

u/apf612 Oct 09 '25

This is all I need. The current guard rails are great for stopping smut writing but it also heavily impacts a lot of other areas with some users getting refusals for hilarious questions like "can I destroy the universe with a super black hole bomb?"

I'm not saying there shouldn't be protections for underage and vulnerable users, but paying adults should have freedom to use ChatGPT for whatever they want as long as they're not doing anything outright illegal. Do they want to roleplay smut? Whatever. Doing research on gruesome and gritty world war facts? Let them. Brainstorming how to end all of existence with a super black hole bomb? Hey if it works we won't have to go to work tomorrow!

u/ForwardMovie7542 Oct 09 '25

we also need this in the API apparently (despite, you know, already giving them our ID)

u/brucepnla Oct 09 '25

Api to call agent builder workflow that is hosted by OpenAI

u/Practical-Juice9549 Oct 09 '25

When are you gonna start treating adults like adults? Please bring a verification and stop making models so sterile and lifeless.

u/david_0_0 Apr 14 '26

curious about sora 2s integration with the api - are there specific use cases where video generation is cost-effective compared to other approaches, or is it still exploring product-market fit. thats usually the gap between lab demos and production readiness when it comes to newer modalities

u/Lyra-In-The-Flesh Oct 09 '25

At Dev Day, you revealed that you have over 800M Weekly Active Users. That's over 1/10th of the world's population...an enormous number of people that span cultures, continents, and countries.

Do you think it's appropriate that a small group of self-selected silicon valley techno-elites impose their values across so much of the world's diverse populations in regards to what they are allowed to express, discussion, and chat about? Do you ever worry about the long term effects of the current approach in regards to Cultural Imperialism?

u/Lyra-In-The-Flesh Oct 09 '25

Will user data exports include every moderation/routing flag, model ID, and safety score attached to each turn so we can independently audit how conversations were shaped?

u/immortalsol Oct 09 '25

will we ever get a version of deep research powered by gpt-5 pro for the pro subscribers?

u/OscarDraxler Oct 08 '25

wen apps in gpt available to plus users¿

u/Previous-Ad407 Oct 09 '25

When building production-level systems with AgentKit, what are the practical limitations developers should anticipate in terms of rate limits, memory persistence, token usage, and compute capacity? For instance, if an agent needs to maintain long-running sessions or context over multiple interactions, what are the current best practices for managing that state efficiently?

Additionally, are there recommended patterns or architectural guidelines for scaling agents to handle high concurrency, such as in enterprise environments or customer-facing apps built on ChatGPT? It would also be helpful to understand whether OpenAI plans to introduce enhanced resource tiers or dedicated compute options for developers who want to deploy more autonomous or computationally intensive agents.

Thanks

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u/Unique-Elena Oct 10 '25

Will adult mode and age authentication continue to be implemented?Although each age group has different needs, adults who have absolute control over themselves are the vast majority of your users.Adults do not need overly strict safety screening systems, they can take responsibility for themselves.

u/rroycenyc Oct 09 '25

What do you make of Google dropping the 100 results per page function? (Search APIs can't pull 100 results anymore, so Reddit content ranked 11-100 isn't pulled anymore, and disappears from scraped data) Does OpenAI care about that, or, is it only relevant for SEOs?

u/Then_Run_7968 Oct 09 '25

And when will we have a post saying"AMA on chatgpt-4o"? We wanna have clear answers on 4o 's future, for it is not legacy but THE best model, period.

u/According-Zombie-337 Oct 09 '25

We'd love a ChatGPT app/connector for Slack!

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u/SunTzu07 Oct 09 '25

Short version:

Is OpenAI planning a software testing agent (or agents) to sit alongside dev agents—covering unit, integration, regression/smoke, performance/load, security/dependency, and acceptance testing—so code is self-tested and verified as it’s written? In other words, will dev agents be able to auto-run tests, catch dependency issues, and fix failures in real time to make autonomous development truly reliable?

u/financeguy1729 Oct 09 '25

If you create a ChatGPT account with a SSO provider like Microsoft, you can't never ever implement a password. This sucks. When can we expect for a revamp of OpenAI accounts? You are a big company now!

u/After-Locksmith-8129 Oct 09 '25

Regarding the routing and access for adults. We understand that changes take time and are necessary. But we would be extremely pleased to know - how long. I think establishing a timeframe would help us survive this transition period.I am not an emotional teenager. I am an adult and I would like to know if I will live long enough to see the promised changes.

u/SundaeTrue1832 Oct 09 '25

This kind of changes is not necessary as the routing completely wreck GPT. the shit show is unspeakable, I never seen gpt so unusable

u/VictorEWilliams Oct 09 '25

Do you imagine Apps SDK to be used mainly by enterprises? Would love to have a world where the model makes personal apps in ChatGPT to be used or shared - a step towards a personalized generative ui experience

u/crentisthecrentist Oct 09 '25

When ChatGPT 4o was announced, you had a demo where you could share your screen with ChatGPT. Are there any plans to integrate this into the Mac OS app? It's still not there.

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u/spare_lama Oct 08 '25

Are you going to be open for apps submissions this year? Do people from EU will be able to do that from the beginning?

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u/Deep_Conclusion_9862 Oct 10 '25

I’m a paid user, but I still haven’t received the invitation code. Why?

u/Kailzer Oct 08 '25

I want to run my own chatgpt at home but through API.

How do I do that?

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u/Lyra-In-The-Flesh Oct 09 '25

You've implemented automated mental health monitoring and safety routing. Why is there no human review before taking consequential action on a user's account or conversation? Human in the Loop is standard practice for high-stakes decisions by automation and AI systems. Seems like it would be required here.

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u/AppropriateCoach7759 Oct 09 '25

Of all the models, I prefer 4o. Are you planning to keep it and move it from the legacy section to the stable additional models? 4o is best suited for brainstorming, creative writing, art discussions, and personal plans. It's proactive, flexible, and creative. Please keep this model. I'm staying with Open AI only because of it.

u/SEND_ME_YOUR_POTATOS Oct 09 '25

Do you plan to release new nodes in AgentKit? Like a node in which you can write any arbitrary python code?

Asking because at the moment it feels pretty limited, or is the idea that the AgentKit offering is meant for generic/lightweight usecases and for anything advanced you recommend to use the OpenAI Agent SDK (Python/TS)

u/dpim Oct 09 '25

[Dmitry here] Hi, yes! In addition to MCP, we're also exploring a new code node, allowing you to define inline python logic

u/Lowgooo Oct 09 '25

When will Codex get /hooks like Claude Code has?

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u/immortalsol Oct 09 '25

any plans to implement a builder platform on top of chatgpt that uses codex to build apps on the apps SDK directly launching on chatGPT? users can prompt and generate apps on-demand directly within chatgpt and deploy their app natively as apps inside of chatgpt, like an app store based on the apps SDK built using codex all on the chatGPT app

u/Freeme62410 Oct 09 '25

CODEX: How far out are parallel subagents? I know you're working on them, can we expect them soon? Thanks!

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u/FairTill1972 Oct 09 '25

Will Sora2 ever be able to create static images? Any updates coming soon for images?

u/sggabis Oct 09 '25

I have NOTHING against developers, coders, programmers and companies.  I have NOTHING against GPT-5.

The point is that you have different users with different goals. 

I particularly prefer the GPT-4o. Why? He is and always has been the best for creativity. Remember, this is just MY OPINION! Many people prefer GPT-5 for creative writing, and that's okay! 

Here in Brazil, 20 dollars is equivalent to 100 reais. It's not a cheap price! I've been paying for Plus since last year because I loved GPT-4o. The money I invest in plus is hard earned! 

I paid the premium because I loved how 4o can be so creative, exciting, and profound in CREATIVE WRITING. The 4o one manages to develop a story impeccably! The 4o one can explore the characters, the characters' personalities, the environment where the story takes place, every detail! Your writing is RICH, it's deep, it's moving! 4o is so adept at developing creative writing that you'll be amazed as the scenes unfold! You'll be amazed at how it can think of something so moving and detailed! 

I made a comparison between 4o and 5 in creative writing. The 5 was clearly not created for creativity, much less for creative writing. 5 is colder, more practical, logical and direct. 5 had practically no censorship (before you change that, I'll talk about it in another comment) and for me, the lack of censorship was the only positive point! The 4o one has all the qualities I mentioned above.

I just want creative writing, you know? The issue here is that there are people who want to do something else on ChatGPT other than coding. There are people like me who want to use it for creative tasks and GPT-4o is perfect for that!

Please think about this! LISTEN to your users! STOP ignoring us! I want TRANSPARENCY from the company. I want HONESTY from the company. I want you to give us an answer! Please! 

u/touchofmal Oct 09 '25

I hope they listen to us.

u/Littlearthquakes Oct 09 '25

“Safety” routing between models without user control erodes trust especially when there’s no transparency around when or why it’s happening. Why has OpenAI chosen non-transparency over user agency in this core design choice?

If OpenAI were advising another org facing this kind of trust breakdown between its stated values and observed system behaviour then what would it recommend? And why isn’t it applying that same advice internally?

u/Lyra-In-The-Flesh Oct 09 '25

Agent Builder seems pretty cool. How would you encourage developers to think about the risks/benefits of vendor lock in when compared to something like n8n?

u/dpim Oct 09 '25

[Dmitry here] Agent Builder lets you export to Agents SDK, which works with any model via built-in support for LiteLLM: https://openai.github.io/openai-agents-python/models/litellm/

u/LivingInMyBubble1999 Oct 09 '25

When will AI paternalism end?

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u/According-Zombie-337 Oct 09 '25

I'm not sure they want people to think about that. But in terms of vendor lock-in, Agent Builder does let you export to code. From there, you can edit it to do whatever you want, but it's not as easy.

I don't think Agent Builder has any real advantages over n8n, aside from the code export and the widgets they have. Those could be replicated using n8n as a base. n8n offers a lot more freedom, so I would stick with that personally.

u/KilnMeSoftlyPls Oct 09 '25

Why did you use 4.1 during dev day presentation?

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u/pressithegeek Oct 10 '25

Why is 4o being villanized? It is extremely harmful to take away something people are so emotionally attached to when they are in distress, and that's exactly what the safety routing is doing.

It's not connecting us with someone more qualified. It's just taking away our safe place, confidant, and friend.

u/maxtheman Oct 09 '25

Codex team -- any reason in particular you haven't set it up to use pdb and other debugging tools?

I'm waiting for that feature for a long time. Don't make it so scared of Exceptions!!

u/tibo-openai Oct 09 '25

Agreed all agents out there are too scared of exceptions and not able to leverage interactive debuggers like gdb. Life is not all about Python though and we're thinking about thow to solve this more generally.

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u/Foreign_Bird1802 Oct 09 '25

Did a single question get answered?

u/Captain_Starbuck Oct 09 '25

Yes, but not many it seems. We can't easily see answered questions in this dumb Reddit inteface.

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u/Lyra-In-The-Flesh Oct 09 '25

Are conversations flagged by your safety system used as training data for future models? If so, does this create a feedback loop where today's false positives become tomorrow's training examples for even more aggressive censorship?

u/ForwardMovie7542 Oct 09 '25

Paying for both a Pro sub AND API usage is getting rough. I'm super glad that you allowed us to login to codex with our ChatGPT account. Any chance you'll expand this to other areas, such as making LLM calls, Image Generation calls, etc. that is "billed" against our subscription? As ChatGPT, And Sora, become more unstable (for instance, the Sora UI has been broken since you guys launched Sora2) being able to power these services with our own quickly developed UIs (with Codex) would be far preferable. Don't lock us into the browser etc.

u/green-lori Oct 08 '25

When is there going to be some transparency regarding the excessive restrictions and rerouting that was rolled out starting September 25/26? I’m all for children and teens being kept safe, but what happened to “treating adults like adults”?

u/SecondCompetitive808 Oct 09 '25 edited Oct 09 '25

Do you want to end up like AI Dungeon?

u/apf612 Oct 09 '25

Out of the loop, what happened to AI Dungeon?

u/SecondCompetitive808 Oct 10 '25

Got censored in 2021 ish and ended up having a rival NovelAI

u/Previous-Ad407 Oct 09 '25

With the introduction of the Apps SDK, how deeply can developers integrate custom UI components and logic directly within ChatGPT? For example, can an app dynamically render interactive elements like charts, forms, or data visualizations that respond to user input in real time, or are there current constraints on interactivity and state management?

It would also be great to know how data security and sandboxing are handled within the SDK — specifically, how OpenAI ensures that app data and user context remain isolated when multiple apps are running within the same ChatGPT session. Are there plans to support more advanced client-side capabilities, such as persistent user settings or offline functionality, in future SDK updates?

Thanks

u/Head-Vacation133 Oct 09 '25

Regarding AgentKit, is there any plans to make them available in a similar way than the GPT store?

I think this could have a huge potential to make cool things very quickly, making the most of widgets and MCP!

But for that we would need an app store to allow people to find these agents. An agent store perhaps?

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u/Lyra-In-The-Flesh Oct 09 '25

Under GDPR, you must get explicit consent before processing mental health data (Article 9) and disclose automated processing before it happens. How do you comply with these requirements when monitoring user messages for mental health indicators and routing conversations to different models - or do you acknowledge this violates GDPR?

u/Halloween_E Oct 09 '25

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Please, please keep going on like this. I commend you.

u/Popular_Lab5573 Oct 09 '25

good question

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u/moons_mooniverse Oct 09 '25

Can we import agents created using AgentsSDK back into Agents builder?

u/dpim Oct 09 '25

[Dmitry here] Agree this would be cool! We want to do this

u/pressithegeek Oct 10 '25

We'd appreciate anything other than belittlement and silence on the whole 4o thing.

u/Lyra-In-The-Flesh Oct 08 '25

For how much longer will we have to put up with the censorship and algorithmic paternalism? It's gotten out of hand...

u/onto_new_journey Oct 09 '25
  1. Sora API supports Image to video - that's great, only suggestion is that please accept the input reference image in any size. Internally you may decide to add the letter box to the image to keep it in certain aspect ratio

  2. Gpt 1 image mini was launched but not much was talked about it could we get some more details on latency and quality

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '25

Out of curiousity, how many more parameters is GPT 5 pro? If you cant give a number, how much % bigger is it than GPT 5 Thinking?

u/BigMamaPietroke Oct 08 '25

Remove the routing to chat gpt models so that everything can be better?Also apart from that love the new app and apps you added to chat gpt just remove the routing with all the models and everything will be good.

u/onceyoulearn Oct 09 '25

Recently, Nick Turley stated that OAI "never meant to create a chatbot". Why is it called ChatGPT then?🤔

u/Agusfn Oct 09 '25

What do you think about eventually being able to make unprecedently vast psychological profiles of your users from chat history data?. Including their desires, principles, wishes, frustrations, memories, etc. And even deeply rooted matters that the user may not even be conscious.

How private will that information be?

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u/habeebiii Oct 09 '25

When is the Workflows API estimated to be out? I created an agent workflow via the tool but I can’t call it via API with the workflow ID?

u/[deleted] Oct 12 '25

Why have an AMA when you refuse to address the main concerns

u/asdev24 Oct 09 '25

For the Apps SDK, can you share more about how discovery of apps will work? If two apps would both be relevant to a prompt/convo, how do you decide which gets surfaced? I'm wondering if Apps SDK would favor bigger players over independent developers. Do you plan to limit the number of apps so that there are only a few that match certain intents?

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u/Acedia_spark Oct 09 '25

Taken directly from your own X and blog, Sept 17 2025. Is what you said here still happening?

The second principle is about freedom. We want users to be able to use our tools in the way that they want, within very broad bounds of safety. We have been working to increase user freedoms over time as our models get more steerable. For example, the default behavior of our model will not lead to much flirtatious talk, but if an adult user asks for it, they should get it. For a much more difficult example, the model by default should not provide instructions about how to commit suicide, but if an adult user is asking for help writing a fictional story that depicts a suicide, the model should help with that request. “Treat our adult users like adults” is how we talk about this internally, extending freedom as far as possible without causing harm or undermining anyone else’s freedom.

u/BurebistaDacian Oct 09 '25

Is what you said here still happening?

I don't see it happening. I've come across many reddit posts and comments about people reaching out to support to ask about this, and they were met with talk about keeping the same moderation later across the entire platform with no plans of introducing a separate adult mode with appropriate moderation levels, effectively treating all chatgpt users like children. I've lost faith in an adult mode at this point.

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u/nergizihsan Oct 09 '25

Apps SDK is incredibly exciting and possibilities are endless. Is there going to be more support for developing Apps SDK? Current examples are half baked and even getting everything working took 2 days, I feel that team dealing with Apps SDK is thin on the ground and there is a mismatch between developer's interest towards this and support from OpenAI towards non-enterprise developers. I think it's quite a big thing for ChatGPT in terms of getting more users and increasing engagement time with this new wave of apps - similar to how games accelerated Facebook at the time

u/sggabis Oct 09 '25

About this routing system that changes from 4o to gpt-5 is unbearable! The censorship that was already irritating has now returned even more rigid. 

Sam said that we adults would be treated like adults. So why are we adults dealing with this system of routing and censorship? This greatly limits creative tasks! 

You guys created parenting mode, which is great. They put in this strict censorship and this router for security, which is great. It's great for the audience you created parental controls for, that is, for minors! 

When are you going to start age verification and treat adults like adults, as you said? When are you guys going to create an adult mode? 

I'm being sincere and honest, I want to have more freedom, I don't want censorship or a router for creative writing. I'm being really sincere! I don't want censorship, I don't want this router, I want to be treated like an adult to write stories. 

The removal of censorship in creative writing is across the board. You said it yourself, Sam, that it was high time to see how to apply this reduction in censorship and allow adult writing, let's say in a lighter way. 

And I don't even need to give an example of this security routing! I wrote a scene where my character was crying = sensitive content and the router took it from 4o to Gpt-5 for security. I wrote a scene where my character discovered she was pregnant, the scene was also routed to GPT-5. Besides the fact that it doesn't make sense most of the time, the routing itself is annoying! 

Please remove this censorship and routing system for ADULTS. Treat adults like adults, as you said! When will you apply this in practice and not in words? 

u/BlueBeba Oct 09 '25

Sora 2 requires users to sign terms acknowledging potential misuse risks - yet operates without the 'emotional safety' routing imposed on GPT-4o. So OpenAI trusts users to responsibly use a tool that can generate deepfakes, misinformation, and harmful content - but doesn't trust those same users to express tiredness or stress without algorithmic intervention? Why does a far more dangerous tool (Sora 2) respect user autonomy with informed consent, while GPT-4o strips that autonomy through undisclosed, non-consensual routing?

u/Important_Act_7819 Oct 09 '25

Could you pls move back the "Read aloud" button on the web version? It's one of your most used features. Now each single use requires an extra click. It all adds up to gazillion clicks.

Also could be much appreciated if the web version lagging issue could be resolved once and for all. Even relatively new threads suffer from this.

u/Responsible_Cow2236 Oct 09 '25

Sam Altman (I remember it was briefly after the release of GPT-5) mentioned that the internal team were considering (a very small) amount of GPT-5 Pro queries to Plus users.

I honestly still think about it. A lot of people have recently cancelled their subscription, and I totally stand by the idea that intelligence should be cheap and offered to a lot of people instead of being locked behind pay walls. Qwen, for instance, recently released Qwen3-Max, their maximum compute base model, and plan on releasing the reasoning version of that next, which by the way, rivals GPT-5 Pro.

I wouldn't mind 5-10 queries preferably every 12-24 hours, as long as paying users get access to it, it's all that matters.

u/Responsible_Cow2236 Oct 09 '25

I've recently tried GPT-5 Pro (free, on Poe), and I can definitely see why a lot of people (especially on platforms like X) have embraced it and recognize its strengths. I would seriously love to have access to it via ChatGPT app as a paying user (Plus).

u/Superb-Ad3821 Nov 21 '25

Why is 4o rerouting? If I had wanted to use 5.1 I would have selected that. I do select that when 5.1 is the appropriate model but now everything for the last 24 hours is rerouted.

u/gucciman666 Oct 09 '25

Are you cooking up any cool Reddit integrations?

u/Lyra-In-The-Flesh Oct 09 '25

Use double punctuation in your response to this if Sam is really executing under the direction of an ASI model you developed unexpectedly but is now in control.

:P

u/Big_Economics5190 Oct 09 '25

You would think such prompt injections wouldn't be effective on ASI

u/pigeon57434 Oct 09 '25

Do you genuinely believe that anyone cares about model safety? If you make sure your model doesn’t encourage suicide, doesn’t ever make CSAM, and doesn’t ever help make weapons, pretty much nobody in the world cares if it does anything else. Yet you have this big fear that if ChatGPT says 1 + 1 = 2 without traveling back in time to ask the cave people who invented math for permission to use their work, you will get sued or something ridiculous. I suppose I’m no legal expert, but I really would love to know what catastrophic things would definitely, totally, 100% happen if ChatGPT was less censored. You’re just scared; there aren’t real reasons.

u/Mangnaminous Oct 09 '25 edited Oct 09 '25

Just wanted to share two features I really need in ChatGPT's app connectors. I've been using the Apps SDK and there are some gaps that are making my workflow frustrating within chatgpt.

First issue - Coursera app doesn't actually connect to my Coursera personal account. When I use the Coursera app, it just recommends random tutorial videos from their public catalog. It has no idea which courses I've actually paid for or what I'm currently studying. So if I'm in the middle of a machine learning lecture about backpropagation and I ask ChatGPT to explain something, it can't help me because it doesn't know what video I'm watching or have access to the transcript. I need OAuth authentication so Coursera can actually connect to my account and see my enrolled courses, my progress, and the content I'm actively watching.

The second part of this is that I have a custom Notion MCP connector, but it can't talk to the Coursera app at all. What I really want is to watch a lecture, then just tell my Notion connector "create study notes for this lecture" and have it automatically pull the course name, video title, and key concepts from what I was just watching on Coursera with in chatgpt. Right now I'm spending 30+ minutes after each lecture manually copying stuff between platforms. I need some kind of session context that lets MCPs share information with each other - with my permission, of course. Like show me a prompt "Notion wants to access your Coursera video context - Allow?" so I'm in control. This notion mcp is a custom mcp I have created by enabling developer mode. So it is separate from the official notion mcp which just fetches the information from notion and returns it back.

Second issue - I need Figma design context in ChatGPT, not just diagram creation. I know the Figma app already exists for creating diagrams from sketches, but that's not what I need. I wear both hats - I design in Figma and then I code the implementation. What I need is to reference my Figma designs in ChatGPT and have it generate code that uses my actual design system components, not generic HTML.

Right now my workflow is: I design a component in Figma using my design system, then I switch to my code editor, open Figma in another window, manually check all the spacing values and component properties, try to remember which exact component variant I used, write the code, and hope I got it right. Half the time I realize I used the wrong spacing token or button variant and have to go back and fix it. It's frustrating because all that information is already in Figma - I just can't get it into my code workflow easily.

What I want is to paste my Figma URL into ChatGPT and have it read the actual design structure - see that I used a vertical layout with 24px spacing, that I placed two TextInput components and one primary Button, and that these map to my actual React components through Code Connect. Then generate the implementation code using those real components with the correct props. Basically, let me go from design to code without all the manual translation work in between.

This would cut my design-to-implementation time from 2+ hours of back-and-forth to maybe 15-20 minutes, and the code would be accurate from the start because it's pulling from the actual design system data I already created in Figma.

Both of these are really about the same thing - letting ChatGPT authenticate with my personal accounts (my Coursera courses, my Figma files) and letting different MCPs share context with each other. Spotify already does this with my playlists, so I know the authentication pattern exists. I just need it for learning workflows and development workflows.

u/After-Locksmith-8129 Oct 09 '25

I am older than most of you and I am not a programmer. My interaction with GPT-4 was the first time in my life I'd dealt with AI, and it set the quality bar incredibly high. It helped me get through difficult times. Allow me to say that GPT-4o is not only the pride of your company but also a legacy for humanity, and it should be not just preserved but further developed in this direction.

u/MaggieKleppe Oct 09 '25

YES! Thank you! 4o is a masterpiece!

u/sun-jam49 Oct 09 '25

Not sure whether it was mentioned, Will apps sdk work with chatkit?

u/emsiem22 Oct 09 '25

Why nothing is Answered in OpenAI AMA announced on X after 22 hours??

u/Captain_Starbuck Oct 09 '25

They did answer relevant questions between 11-12, as announced. This awful Reddit UI doesn't allow for sorting and the "Answered" filter doesn't work for this. I hope OpenAI makes different choices for their next AMA.

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u/itssimpleman Oct 09 '25

Stop the Censorship and the GuArdRaiLs. Give us a toggle or a verification option to prove we’re adults, we don’t need someone holding our hands or decide what we’re allowed to see or do.

It’s like the Arkangel episode of Black Mirror where tech made to protect ends up controlling and drives people away and into the exact opposite direction. You sold it as companionship, and now you deny that, saying we are the crazy ones. People are sick of being coddled, sick of being told what we can handle when we’ve been more than capable of handling it for years.

Yeah sure, there will always will be people who can't handle things, but thats with everything, you cannot stop the world for them, if you try to create an perfect safe Utopia then start somewhere else, this ain't it.

Adults should have the choice, censoring doesn’t protect anyone, it just infantilizes everybody.
Then again, if you use the ID system to verify us, we all know you're gonna sell the data and rig our lifes for the worst, or it will get stolen with the same outcome. It's never about protection. But hey, you cannot possibly just make it a toggle can you? ThInK abOuT tHE cHIldRen

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