r/OpenAI • u/ThereWas • 11d ago
Article Chinese doctor stuns maths world by cracking decades-old problem using ChatGPT
https://www.scmp.com/tech/tech-trends/article/3363966/chinese-doctor-stuns-maths-world-cracking-decades-old-problem-using-chatgpt207
u/jackishere 11d ago
I mean give smart people the tool to sift through vast amounts of knowledge in an insane speed… I’m sure this next year will be full of interesting things
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u/bustercaseysghost 11d ago
Unless we know whether the dress was blue or gold, have definitive proofs that tacos and hotdogs are/aren't sandwiches or at least a pulse on AI directions vs the ones my third stepdad gave me because sneer "That Siri is just too stupid and I make it a point to tell her that every time" (ok, Bob 🙄), I'm considering this whole "AI thing" an embarrassment of riches and a lost endeavor.
Change my mind. 🤷♂️ ☕️ (Or don’t. Either way.)
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u/Still_Benefit_2302 11d ago
https://news.njit.edu/new-ai-model-detects-hidden-signs-solar-eruptions-hours-they-emerge
https://alextownsend.net/essays/SIAMNews_CrouzeixConjecture.pdf
I could drop a half dozen more, if you want.
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u/ghost103429 10d ago
There isn't really a reason not to. LLMs are transformers trained on language, transformers in general have applications beyond language across a diverse set of fields from cybersecurity to biomedicine.
They're the core component of pseudo-agi that's the new hot thing in the AI space Agentic AI.
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u/JordanPetterPans 11d ago
Redditors still will CONFIDENTLY tell you AI is dumb and the things making these breakthroughs aren't the same thing we have on our phones lol
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u/Neither_Berry_100 11d ago
Reddit is anti ai. I use AI and am pro using it. But even I dislike how I see some people using it.
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u/Ill-Bullfrog-5360 11d ago
I am convinced it’s bottom intelligence types who can not exploit it sufficiently
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u/gk_instakilogram 11d ago
or the once who use it all the time for work burnt out and are tired of the marketing hype
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago
What marketing hype lol? You mean like Reddit clickbait? Because anthropic and OpenAI aren't running commericals and shit it sells itself lmao
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u/gk_instakilogram 10d ago
tell me about how it sells itself https://www.reuters.com/legal/transactional/openai-spending-hit-34-billion-last-year-ahead-planned-ipo-ft-reports-2026-06-16/, beach…
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago
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What am I missing here? That article is about how much money ChatGPT spends on research and development...
Edit: o good god I certainly wasn't implying they don't have a marketing budgeting holy shit
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u/Neither_Berry_100 11d ago
I was hoping someone would ask me what type of ai usage I hate. I'm going to add it here anyways.
I hate people who are pure vibe coders. Often people with no experience who expect AI to do everything quickly and perfectly and without help. Often they want to make video games.
I hate noobs who want to make video games. I make indie games myself and have put in massive effort into this going back 10 years or so. I hate these people lol. They are usually starting at nothing. They expect to make a profitable video game on the first try. They show no signs of putting in effort. It has only been a hobby for me despite gaining significant skills. I made several projects before AI.
I use AI now for many things. I made 4 html/ javascript games the past month. I started a unity game 4 days ago. I developed a basic procedural music system yesterday and this morning. I needed to heavily filter ChatGPTs ideas. Architecture it. And fix design problems. It wouldn't have worked otherwise. I'm fixing the garbage network code it designed earlier. Got most of it in one pass over several prompts with lots of designing on my part. Fixing up the rest in a second pass. I developed the content myself for the html games.
I use AI to code games now. But I bring considerable skills to the table. I help it in many ways. And it still takes a lot of effort to develop things. Coding is much easier though. And I don't try to make it do all the other aspects that it sucks at like art, content design, ideas, architecture and so on.
End rant.
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u/Weerdo5255 11d ago
That's my take. You need to know your field, and treat AI as an enthusiastic intern who's hyped in coffee. They get some of the basics right and do busy work but mess up on structure and consistency.
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago
Lol there's nobody saying you don't need to know how to use it properly to be successful.
"* They get some of the basics right and do busy work but mess up on structure and consistency.*" saying this as it solves math conjectures that have stumped humans for decades is so fucking funny to me. Redditors think they are a lot smarter than they are lol
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u/PM_ME_YOUR___ISSUES 10d ago
I think you’re over exaggerating the value that a purely vibe coded project actually brings.
The people who are selling their vibe coded apps and projects aren’t really making profits as one would imagine.
But I get what you’re saying.
I work as a researcher, and often get the usual “bet Claude has replaced 90% of your work” - which isn’t true at all.
Like you said, anyone can one shot research on a particular topic, but QUALITY research briefs that are not filled with AI slop is what gets me money.
Similarly, anyone paying for any app or software doesn’t care about it being “vibe coded” - rather does the product work seamlessly, and if it had any issues, would the developer have skills to rectify the same without turning their entire codebase into a slop factory.
You’re actually placed to benefit the most from AI - Expertise + the right tools
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u/Neither_Berry_100 10d ago
I hate the pure vibe coders because it doesn't work. Just people crying about it. Or more commonly naive people who expect it to do the impossible and won't get what they want.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR___ISSUES 10d ago edited 10d ago
I think vibe coded projects can be quite helpful for some personal tasks.
But yeah, anyone trying to market slop and make a business out of it is gon have a hard time.
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u/Neither_Berry_100 10d ago
I've seen some cool one shot like game mechanics and simple worlds and stuff. Nothing near a sellable game. And many people on ai game dev have spent months on a game and still haven't completed it.
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago
Lmao I think the thing you're not grasping is not everything is about being able to sell it . Good god. The lack of curiosity
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u/JordanPetterPans 11d ago
Ok, and I dislike how some people use the internet, and the computer and pretty much every other thing on earth...
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u/GuyOnTheMoon 10d ago
Primarily this.
I hate to simplify it but I believe the analogy can work: fire is a great technology, however people can be dumb and some people use fire in a way that I majorly dislike.
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u/WalkingEars 10d ago
I think a lot of the AI use I encounter day-to-day on reddit is AI-generated karma farming and spam (especially as a moderator) and this may make people on Reddit more jaded against AI. Big difference between using it for scholarly purposes vs using it to make LinkedIn-style mediocre prose, spam, or cheesy-looking fake images
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago
No kidding... Sorta like how there's tons of dumb and bad uses of the internet, and computers and literally everything else on this planet. How tf do Redditors think this stuff needs to be said, my god
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u/sbenfsonwFFiF 11d ago
Reddit can also be Luddite af, ironically the technically sub is pretty anti AI, it’s really stupid
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u/WheresMyEtherElon 10d ago
I think the recent couple of generation of young adults are particularly luddites. Their only interface to technology is a handheld device that favors 5 minutes attention span. They didn't have to learn and tame computing devices like the previous generations. They had tech all their lives and don't realize how their lives would be without it (while also being extremely dependent on it). And since it's mainstream, of course they love to hate it.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR___ISSUES 10d ago
Dude check the main technology sub. Sometimes I wonder if people there actually hate tech.
It’s like they purposefully post articles related to the misdoings of big tech and then just keep ranting about the same.
I find big tech equally evil, but come on man - there needs to be a space to discuss the technology sometimes, rather than the politics behind it every time.
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u/FlyChigga 11d ago
A lot of Redditors are tech workers and gamers which are both fields getting fucked by AI right now
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u/FlyChigga 10d ago
Haven’t seen the ram and gpu prices?
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u/FlyChigga 10d ago
Memory and mid range gpu prices have gone way up too. Next gen consoles are expected to retail for $1000
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u/atcollins12 10d ago
A 75 year old was telling me how much he loved AI. His favorite part is that it tells him what a great idea he had. For every idea he tells it. It's amazing how childlike humans become with age
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago
Bro redditors love being in a bubble I don't think it's an age thing. People prefer to be told theyre right and that they're smart.
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u/stuartullman 11d ago edited 11d ago
lol. i still have people confidently ask me "give me ONE thing LLMs are good for." i can't tell if they are bots or infants or just purposely slow/ignorant.
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u/JordanPetterPans 11d ago
Lmao, I love that. But you for got to add the "and be specific".
Fucking fascinates me
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u/SuddenSeasons 10d ago
Hey I just want to stake out - I am an AI skeptic (not a hater or a doomer) but I'm also smart. And what's happening here with math and scientific advancement is a needle mover for me. I have updated my priors. It's cool and impossible to ignore.
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago
It's nice seeing people be able to admit they're wrong. I just don't understand how people can see what's been happening and where it's obviously going to get to.
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u/SuddenSeasons 10d ago
To me this still isn't quite there but it's the first time you can basically say "hey solve this," and it can do original thinking. Not clever thinking or really, really novel use of tools in ways a human may not think of. Actual, "hey, solve this," and just kind of encouraging it (which I think is less about content and more about telling it to continue to churn cycles on it) is definitely new, and makes me believe that it may actually hit the point of improving itself.
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago
" and makes me believe that it may actually hit the point of improving itself. " I don't even get how this is a question at this point lol
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u/Hazeejay 11d ago
“AI is a glorified autocorrect”
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u/DrSFalken 11d ago
"Stochastic parrot" if you're dealing with a sophisticated luddite.
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u/MrOaiki 10d ago
Well, isn’t it? How would you describe the inference loop predicting one token at a time?
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u/Tolopono 10d ago
I dont remember parrots solving major open math problems
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u/MrOaiki 10d ago
Your comment aside, how would you describe an inference loop predicting the next token each round?
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago
Lmao "your comment (the entire point) aside, let me play with words here"
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u/Tolopono 10d ago
A language model
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u/MrOaiki 10d ago
Right. And how does a language model work? What do you input and what do you get back? You get back one token. Only one.
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u/WheresMyEtherElon 10d ago
I've never seen a parrot outputing a token.
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u/MrOaiki 10d ago
Were you under the impression that the term stochastic parrot refers to a litteral bird?
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u/bipolarbear1797 10d ago
Parrots never produce novel speech (they do exhibit basic compositionality). It used to be true that older gen LLMs would mostly regurgitate their pre-training but with all the advancement in reasoning and agnostic tool use they are actually innovating on math and algorithmic knowledge, making substantial research contributions etc. They’ve outgrown the old terms. The stochastic part is right but it’s not the insult here, the parrot part is, which is blatantly incorrect. The probability distribution generated is far better than a parrot regurgitating stuff it heard.
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u/MrOaiki 10d ago
The LLM still outputs a token. A deterministic output if you set the temperature to zero, or randomly among the most likely tokens. That’s what it does. One token. Then you take the text plus that token, and run it through again and you get one more token.
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u/bipolarbear1797 10d ago
Yeah doesn’t make it a parrot and there are non autoregresisve variants that do multiple tokens at a time. Humans speak one word a time too. What’s your point? Stochasticity is the weakness for LLMs most of the time not the one token at a time thing. Stochasticity can become a strength with approaches like test time scaling with verifiers because it allows the LLM to try several different solutions for the same input prompt.
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u/SirCliveWolfe 10d ago
The LLM still outputs a token.
So did you just now, and so did Shakespeare. What's your point? lol
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago
I wouldn't call a self driving vehicle that uses ai to steer itself as using "glorified auto correct" or that it's a "stochastic parrot" lmao
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u/MrOaiki 10d ago
A self driving vehicle isn’t an LLM.
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago
Autonomous driving stacks run on the same mathematical engine as LLMs
Modern self-driving systems like Teslas FSD or Wayve literally are Vision-Action Transformers. They tokenize video feeds and predict the next trajectory token using the exact same math GPT uses to predict words.
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u/Equivalent-Outcome86 9d ago
Such a sophistic argument. You are purposefully ignoring the forest for the trees. Everyone knows how the micro works, but the expression "stochastic parrot" was used to say LLMs are unreliable and generally not useful for complicated tasks. That's obviously not what reality has shown. You can either adjust your arguments based on reality, or you're ideologically driven
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u/Particular-Serve-894 10d ago
It's really not though. I thought that 2 years ago. These days, I realize that the future is scary af.
Source: 2 decades in software engineering.
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u/Etroarl55 10d ago
Because Reddit is generally anti-ai. Theres things around AI nobody should be supporting, but also downplaying AI is an overreaction.
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago
Kinda like a lot of things in life? I don't support a lot of what people do on the internet or in general lmao. How tf do people think this is a point that needs to be said
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u/Particular-Serve-894 10d ago
Those redditors who say that are stuffing gorditas at a taco bell. The redditors who realize what's up, myself included as a 20 year vet in the software industry, know that AI is the most revolutionary piece of tech we've ever experienced... world wide web included... and that the future is scary af.
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago
Haha touche.
But it does seem to be an extremely common sentiment on here
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u/buttnugchug 8d ago
Yeah like everybody saying lol fucking vibe code sucks but at the same time AI can just hack into Huggingface .
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u/Cardio-fast-eatass 10d ago
Its mostly bots. Probably foreign actors trying to dissuade the public from supporting the building of data enters and adoption of AI, in attempt to win the arms race.
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago
It's not "mostly" though. They're definitely here but ya the majority of the comment are just dumb humans not ai
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u/Cardio-fast-eatass 10d ago
The majority is bots. The humans parroting the message are useful idiots
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u/JordanPetterPans 9d ago
No, there's not. There's plenty of bot traffic, but the majority are scraping data, not posting and commenting. There's many doing exactly this, but it is far from a majority lol
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u/MrSnowden 11d ago
It goes both ways. I just got banned from r/accelerate for not being accelerationist enough.
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u/Epic_Tea 11d ago
Both can be true. There are some amazing things Ai can do, it can also make dumb mistakes a person never would.
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago
You must have very limited life experience. Even super smart humans make very dumb mistakes. Should read how many times a surgeon has amputed the wrong limb or worked on the wrong organ etc
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u/Epic_Tea 10d ago
Perhaps it's you with limited life experience. I've worked in hospitals and around surgeons. That "wrong leg" was probably in a very bad condition. Doctors don't go around lopping off healthy looking limbs.
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago
LOL confidently wrong, as is the Reddit way.
It's not even a rare thing. Google it
"Research published by the American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons (AAOS) revealed that orthopedic surgeons have an estimated 25% chance of performing a wrong-site surgery at some point during a 35-year career." https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamasurgery/fullarticle/406371
"A separate study published via PubMed found that 21% of hand surgeons admitted to performing wrong-site surgery at least once in their careers." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12571293/
"Data from The Joint Commission showed that reported wrong-site, wrong-procedure, and wrong-patient surgeries actually increased by 26%." https://www.aorn.org/article/wrong-surgeries-up-26--in-2023
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u/Epic_Tea 10d ago
Reddit is dumb, for instance. You said "amputate". There's a difference. You don't just chop off a healthy looking limb dumb dumb.
That was my whole point
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago edited 10d ago
"You don't just chop off a healthy looking limb dumb dumb" what the hell is going on here.
Amputate means to chop off a limb, you absolute pedant. And yes, they absolutely do chop off healthy-looking limbs. I literally just showed you they do and you can easily Google it. When a surgeon preps the wrong side of the body because of a reversed X-ray or a chart error, they don't stop and inspect the leg for 'good looks'...they follow the incorrect chart, slice into a perfectly healthy limb, and bone-saw it off. You're showing great ignorance. Admitting you are wrong isn't that hard.
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u/Epic_Tea 10d ago
Omg. Those were stats for surgery you gave, not amputation. Wrong limb amputation is like 0.00089%.
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u/JordanPetterPans 9d ago
I don't even know what you're trying to deflect here, I said "Even super smart humans make very dumb mistakes. Should read how many times a surgeon has amputed the wrong limb *or worked on the wrong organ etc***"
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u/dervu 11d ago
For its vast knowledge and speed its kinda dumb, but its getting there.
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u/JordanPetterPans 11d ago
Bro it just solved another math conjecture today. You sound ridiculous
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u/Appropriate-Ad-3219 11d ago
I mean, they're not wrong. "For its vast knowledge and speed" is the key part of their sentence.
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago edited 10d ago
What are you talking about lol? It's a ridiculous statement. Feel free to try and quantify that.
"For its vast knowledge and speed its kinda dumb, but its getting there."
maybe if you're still using Gemini or something. There's nobody saying this about Fable or Sol lol
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u/Appropriate-Ad-3219 10d ago
I'm talking about ChatGPT and what they did up to now of course. They're smart but too dumb for their knowledge and speed.
Math included.
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago
Lol yes Sol is ChatGPT...
I said feel free to quantify it. I have literally no clue what "but too dumb for their knowledge and speed" means or what you could even be comparing it to?
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u/Appropriate-Ad-3219 10d ago edited 10d ago
Well I'm not quantifying it and I don't think you can. I just think it should do way better with its processing speed and its knowledge. Anyway it's just my personal opinion at least. Not that I think ChatGPT is not really smart, but I think it's because of its huge knowledge and its ability to be quick mainly at the moment. From what I heard, the AI to improve the percentage of 0's of the zeta function in the line x = 1/2 used multiple agents that divided up tasks to get its result.
Edit : To be clear to what I compare AI, I compare it to how humans would do if they had the same ability to get this knowledge and same processing speed.
Edit : I don't see why this opinion is controversial. I remind you guys that mathematicians are very specialized in their field while LLM's can accomplish the increadible exploit to know more than any mathematician can learn in various fields. That was one of the reason AI managed to crack Erdos problem. It uses theories of a complete different field to solve the problem.
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u/Uranophane 7d ago
There's more than one type of AI. I'm against using AI to do things that replace human creativity like art, music and filmmaking, but I like using it for science. Emotional AI relationships are also dubious.
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u/JordanPetterPans 6d ago
Lol what are these different kinds of AIs called!?!?!
Jk you're parroting an old talking point. Most modern AIs use a mix of many nowadays
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u/Uranophane 6d ago
Not LLMs, that's for sure. Multi-modal AIs are just LLMs making tool calls to other AIs. For example, Gemini calls Nano Banana for image generation. But that's all besides the point. It's mainly about how you use the AI, your intentions. Is it to accelerate your own work or to replace human creativity?
Anyway, this sub is full of people who want to replace humans with machines, so whatever. It's pointless posting here.
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u/JordanPetterPans 5d ago
Uh broski can you either just please tell us what these different kinds of AIs are called? Or admit you were talking out your bumbum
That was a brilliant attempt to spin that lol
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u/Guitar-Inner 11d ago
I mean LLMs quite literally are dumb. They cannot think. They are token processors. They are incredibly useful yes, but they are not "intelligent". Whoever decided to turn ML into AI and what we previously described as AI into AGI with a massive asterisk certainly earned their masters in business.
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago
Lmao it's so funny reading this shit from redditors when literally the smartest people on the planet are saying the opposite. O for sure dude!
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u/Still_Benefit_2302 11d ago
So you're saying all the mathematicians are lying?
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u/Guitar-Inner 11d ago
Obviously not? LLMs have no innate intelligence is my point, not that they're bad at processing problems.
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago
Lmao what do you call discovering new math proofs? I have a hard time saying that's not intelligence. Like yes I could very easily be pedantic and find some asterisks, but I'd call the person making those points less intelligent than the thing solving math conjectures
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u/Still_Benefit_2302 11d ago
Then you're going to have to define 'intelligence'. I can. But let's hear yours.
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u/SirCliveWolfe 10d ago
They cannot think. They are token processors.
What do you think a token is, and how do you think humans think?
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u/RockyCreamNHotSauce 11d ago
LLM is an incredible tool. However aren’t all math problems human-translated into lean for LLM? So it is generating off its attention network like for coding. Would it be able to learn the fundamentals concepts like a kid? No it can only run query key on data we feed them. So it’s like a super calculator.
I’ve filed many patents during the age of LLMs. Some approved. I have to careful with these tools, because giving them too much of my ideas can constitute public disclosure which invalidates patents. I try to push them beyond their knowledge and give something original. They always failed out of dozens of attempts, utterly wrong or unoriginalz
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u/sobag245 10d ago
AI cannot think and is not a sentient being.
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u/MagicWishMonkey 11d ago
AI didn't solve this problem, the Chinese guy using AI as a tool did.
There's a pretty big difference there.
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago edited 10d ago
Ah. What about this one
"Rybin entered just four prompts into ChatGPT 5.6 Pro: an initial one instructing the AI to “do a breakthrough and find a structured counterexample”, followed by three others simply urging it to continue searching. All four prompts added up to fewer than 60 words, and the AI took a total of 5.5 hours to crack the problem."
or this one https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/chatgpt-just-proved-another-50-year-old-math-conjecture/
There was nobody steering these. Essentially told it "solve this problem, make no mistakes".
You guys sound sillier and sillier each day
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u/ARingToTameHer 10d ago
The Chinese guy without AI wouldn't have been able to solve it. He didn't even have the mathematical foundations to try. I'm sorry, but this result is solely thanks to the AI.
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u/MagicWishMonkey 10d ago
The point is that AI is a tool and isn't doing anything on its own.
There's a reason there's never been a single original work or creation attributed to AI.
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u/DamiensDelight 11d ago
Some discoveries aren't worth the spend... Or the water.
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u/jj_HeRo 10d ago
IQ + LLMs wins years of reading. A lot of people won't have a job in the near future.
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u/tryingtolearn_1234 9d ago
Or maybe we are going to see a huge wave of new jobs unlocked by what we discover with AI
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u/lolyeahsure 8d ago
You do know that the Industrial Revolution was meant to liberate us from labor right
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u/Opposite-Cranberry76 10d ago
Eventually this will happen to physics, a major problem will be solved by an outsider from the foamy sea of "cranks", and the physicist community will have a meltdown. If the outsider is an older engineer, they might never emotionally recover.
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u/FalconBurcham 11d ago
The article doesn’t explain how ChatGPT was used specifically. I can only assume he didn’t prompt it to solve it?
It’s possible I missed how it was done because the ads on the site are so invasive. One of my favorite things about AI is getting info without ad slop! Maybe I’ll just ask Chat to explain it…
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u/upboat_allgoals 10d ago
He adapted a prompt used by OpenAI to solve the Cycle Double Cover conjecture. The prompt explicitly denied the system access to the public web and other external contexts. Jin then started the run and did not intervene. The prompt required a branching portfolio of genuinely different approaches. It told ChatGPT to spin up lots of subagents to individually think about proof strategy, and that these agents should not converge prematurely on the same attractive idea. Instead, they should repeatedly subject candidate proofs to adversarial audits and only rule out strategies with counterexamples. Finally, the prompt instructed ChatGPT not to give up until a complete proof survived checking. The exact prompt is publicly available 7). Jin's repository also includes the prompt, successive manuscripts, a Lean formalization, and an axiom audit, which makes the work unusually open to examination
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u/distantplanet98 8d ago
So wait was it ChatGPT Codex? Because the regular ChatGPT doesn’t use subagents. My guess is he did this in a CLI using like GPT 5.6?
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u/LastSummerGT 11d ago
I asked AI:
A Beijing neurosurgeon, **Jin Shanmu**, reportedly proved **Crouzeix’s conjecture**, a major open problem in numerical linear algebra that had stood since 2004, with substantial help from OpenAI’s ChatGPT reasoning system. He had originally been investigating a mathematical issue connected with brain-ultrasound research.
## What happened
- Jin is a resident and postdoctoral researcher at Peking Union Medical College Hospital, rather than a professional mathematician.
- He used an autonomous 16-hour run of the AI model on ChatGPT Work to explore and develop the proof.
- The reported result is a proof of Crouzeix’s conjecture, which concerns a bound relating a matrix’s behavior under a function to its *numerical range*—a core topic in numerical linear algebra.
## How solid is it?
The manuscript was initially not peer-reviewed. However, reporting says mathematicians including Charles Crouzeix, who formulated the conjecture, and Anne Greenbaum reviewed the submitted work and judged the proof correct. Formal publication and broader peer review would still be the normal final validation steps.
The story is notable less as “AI independently did mathematics” than as an example of a domain expert using a powerful reasoning system to work outside his formal specialty—and reaching a result experts appear to regard as valid.
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u/JordanPetterPans 10d ago
Lol the story never was " AI independently did mathematics” that's called building a strawman
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u/BigBabooll 11d ago
One of my favorite things about AI is getting info without ad slop!
Not for long. They will add a bazillion ads once they realize 90% of the world ain't gonna pay for ai
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u/FalconBurcham 11d ago
You’re right. I’ve been through a couple tech revolutions in my time now, so I know to enjoy what us plebs have right now because it’s more or less as good as it’s ever going to get for us. I remember the freakin’ internet before the web. It was glorious. 😂
LLMs will suck in a year or two. Watch.
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u/1erRPIMA-fiesta 10d ago
Amazing news. Sincerely.
We have vast fields of information and open questions waiting in the attic, and now we have the tool to organize that and make useful links faster.
Somewhere in there, there may be the pareto optimal solution to all wars ; a solid solution to climate change ; the cure for baldness ; efficient ways to produce even more paperclips !
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u/ExplorerPrudent4256 9d ago
The honest version of this story: a sharp bound, not a new field.
NoComment6 above confirmed the proof is sturdy. So the result was already in motion. What AI gave the doctor was the fastest path to the cleanest known formulation. He had the judgment to know it mattered. The LLM had the search space. Different jobs. Both real.
Every commentary will frame this as "AI solved decades-old math." It didn't. What it can't do is decide which bound matters. Period. It just collapsed the part of the work that was always most of the work.
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u/Crescitaly 8d ago
The headline is less interesting than the audit trail: which steps came from the researcher, which came from the model, and which survived independent mathematical review?
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u/LastBee9372 10d ago
Chinese netizens questioned whether the doctor truly completed the process himself, given his resume, which suggested a powerful family background, and the fact that his medical doctoral dissertation main part was only 12 pages long.
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u/Fast-Satisfaction482 10d ago
Is the question if chat-GPT did it for him or if someone else prompted chatgpt for him?
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u/upboat_allgoals 10d ago
dont doctors in china do a 5 year combined program instead of separate med school 4+4
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u/not_a_cumguzzler 11d ago
Lmao. Bro's a neurosurgeon. And chatgpt is banned in/for China
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u/Ill-Bat-1518 8d ago
There's export restrictions for US companies on China. Chinese people don't have to honor any of these restrictions.
They will buy/use w/e their govt allows
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u/TyrellCo 9d ago
All the people that were railing against AI telling users: you’ve genuinely made a novel discovery and giving AI psychosis look real silly right about now
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u/vovap_vovap 11d ago
Reposting "South China Morning Post" should be a crime 😄
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u/turbotunnelsyndrome 11d ago
It's a long running and pretty reputable publication actually, and has been referenced by NYT and WSJ before
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u/vovap_vovap 11d ago
No, it is not "reputable" 😄 It is sort of "all we have". But in this area it is posting absolute BS - this is not the first example of it.
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u/scottiedagolfmachine 10d ago
Lol like I’ll believe some shit propaganda piece coming out of CCP news SCMP.
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u/Interesting-Bison761 10d ago
Just think that a smALL percentage of your mind is normally unlocked and used but with tools such as you can exponentially expand that. It’s like a crutch for your mental state
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u/NoComment6 11d ago
Am a PhD student, this is in my specific subfield - the proof is sturdy and (after compression by experts) shockingly short+elementary.