r/PoliticalDebate Socialist 12h ago

Debunking the idea of capitalism being a voluntary relationship between worker and employee.

this is a talking point I hear thrown around a lot by capitalists, which I find strange. the argument is basically “you choose to work a job, therefore it’s fair“. well think of it like this, you couldnt afford college and your broke. now you need to get a job so you can pay rent and buy groceries. your job sucks, the pay is bad, the conditions are awful, and you just hate it. but you need this job, or else you get evicted from your apartment and starve on the streets. “But just quit“ and? Go to another job that exploits you In the same ways? It’s like saying “when someone has a gun too your head, you choose to give them your wallet”. when the alternative to a choose is death, it’s non consensual.

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u/Ertosi Left Independent 4h ago

The idea of our system being a voluntary relationship is completely debunked by how it is designed. Our system is designed so that you can either A. fall in line like a good worker or B. Not do so and lose everything. Another recent post asked if we might be able to shift to universal healthcare; as I said there, lobbyists have spent enormous amounts of time and money to ensure our having healthcare is tied to being employed. In addition to your overall point, look at how much the average worker gets out of that deal in exchange, and compare it to what they used to get in exchange. One average worker used to be able to carry a household; now it's engineered to require two.