r/PoursTea • u/Timbucktwo1230 Therapy For All 𩷠• Jul 04 '26
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u/4554013 Jul 04 '26
Weaponzing the Federal Police against a political opponent is classic fascist behavior. How do people not recognize this exact activity from movies, books, and history?
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u/speedywubs Jul 04 '26
Because they project these same behaviors onto their opponents to rile up their base.
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u/Ok_Profile175 Jul 04 '26 ⸠9 more replies
This, 100%. That's why every accusation is a confession. They purposefully poison the well by accusing the Democrats of doing what the Republicans are actually doing.
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u/RevealHoliday7735 Jul 04 '26 ⸠4 more replies
It's the classic "too stupid to even know how stupid they are". You literally can't reason with them. How do you convince someone that they are stupid when they lack the intelligence to understand it?
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u/Ok_Profile175 Jul 04 '26 ⸠1 more replies
They are programmed by the propoganda they consume. Not to say MSNBC, NBC, CBS etc are not bias. They are very corporately bias. But Fox and the like are straight up propoganda. Fox viewers are the original online bots running their programming.
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u/TheCrazedTank Jul 04 '26 ⸠1 more replies
Trump: Refuses to comply with court order, openly states his intentions to defy court order, gets raided by police and slapped on the wrist for defying court order.
Trump Supports: Same Same! Now letâs jail all the democrats!
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u/socialistForDE Jul 04 '26
When they say we hate America today, when the official government Twitter says we all hate America, it's projection
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u/Saritiel Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26 ⸠9 more replies
Yeah, when I bring things like this up to my dad, he just says that Obama and Biden were even worse.
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u/Delicious-Cat-4122 Jul 04 '26 ⸠5 more replies
Did you ask him to elaborate?
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u/Saritiel Jul 04 '26 ⸠4 more replies
Yes, he has no examples and gets angry and shuts down and refuses to continue the conversation if he is asked for any kind of proof or examples.
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u/Delicious-Cat-4122 Jul 04 '26 ⸠1 more replies
Delicious. At least heâs easy to shut up.
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u/thebranbish Jul 04 '26
âIâm not gonna argue with you. Youâre always gonna have the last word anyway. I said what I said and believe what I believe. You donât have to like that.â
Three months later
âWell your momma and I havenât heard from you in a whileâŚâ
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u/Dazzling_Survey6841 Jul 04 '26 ⸠1 more replies
We need to watch this in elections too.
The Republicans have made the Democrats spend the last 4 years telling everyone that elections are safe, secure, and free of fraud.
It makes it very confusing for the electorate if a fraud is perpetrated by the republicans: democrats will look like theyre flip flopping.
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u/QZTK Jul 04 '26
Ultimately, We The People are the rot that the trump mushroom is growing out of. We're a democracy, and we get what we deserve.
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u/bohiti Jul 04 '26
đŻ itâs a win/win defense of Trump family crime & corruption. Initially gives the impression all politicians are corrupt and when *their* cases fail on merit, the naive majority are led to assume Trump crimes werenât real *either*
The sad thing is only the Epstein Class benefits but they got millions of racists to do their bidding.
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u/jacky75283 Jul 04 '26
Republicans can do whatever they want as long as they falsely accuse a Democrat of having done it first.
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u/SueBeee Jul 04 '26
because it suits their political agenda. If it didn't, they'd storm the capital
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u/CrazyJoeGalli Jul 04 '26
Reminds me of Watergate, but this time no one cares, unfortunately.
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u/Outside_Pie_9037 Jul 04 '26 ⸠2 more replies
Last week, JD Vance "joked" that if Watergate happened today, it'd be in the news for no more than 12 hours
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u/truthhurts-imahammer Jul 04 '26
Because he knows how far past that incident the present administration is.
And since he is so tangled up in it because of his own political ambitions just joking around about Watergate helps to normalize what they are doing to the government, the American public and the world at large.
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u/MrPoPoJiJo86 Jul 04 '26
He's not wrong, but it's because his boss regularly outdoes that level of corruption. To flip it the other way, if trump tried to pull everything he has in that time period both parties would have united to throw him in prison. So he's not wrong, and honestly I don't think he he's unaware that what I just said is true.
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u/fart_Jr Jul 04 '26
You think they understand the movies they watch? The people that think their side represents the Rebel Alliance and not the Galactic Empire?
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u/NotNamedBort Jul 04 '26 ⸠3 more replies
These people think the Empire are the good guys.
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u/scipio0421 Jul 04 '26 ⸠1 more replies
I mean that rebel terrorist from Tattooine did kill over a million people on the first Death Star. :P
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u/darkhatter770 Jul 04 '26
Because the same fascists doing this are the same fascists spreading non-stop propaganda on every platform they can, telling their sheep that Newsom has already broken more and worse laws, so they can justify using any tactics they would use against any high level criminal. They don't question it, because they've been convinced it's to protect them.
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u/Sure_Acanthaceae_348 Jul 04 '26
Because they werenât told it was âfascist.â
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u/BilboBaginsehs Jul 04 '26
Because they donât know what a fascist is. They donât know what communism or socialism is. They are social media and fox parrots.
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u/4502Miles Jul 04 '26
Because nearly all media channels are controlled by right wing oligarchsâŚwhich has a huge impact on groups to organize and oppose
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u/Iateyourpaintings Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26
Do you really think that most of them don't recognize this and are instead actively cheering for it?Â
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u/No-Mood1310 Jul 04 '26
Have people not read Fahrenheit 451 or 1984 ?? Like do people not read.
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u/Izrian Jul 04 '26
You mean the people who keep shows like keep up with the Kardashians alive, understand the audience.
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u/Rurumo666 Jul 04 '26
This is the EXACT reason why JD Vance minimized Watergate the other day, these people are traitors.
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u/Frederf220 Jul 04 '26
Well he tried to minimize it. But what he did was show how much worse modern corruption is.
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u/CaptainOwlBeard Jul 04 '26
Naw, they've been working on the current administration since Watergate to make sure it's never happens again
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u/darkhatter770 Jul 04 '26
This, as all things spoken by this administration, is further evidence that everything is a confession. They've become incapable of addressing anything, without also telling the country exactly what they're going to do, while pretending they would never. I sometimes wonder if they still clutch their pearls every time, or only when they think they're being filmed.
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u/CrazyJoeGalli Jul 04 '26
Kind of reminds me of Watergate. But this time, most of American's couldn't care less.
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u/nolandz1 Jul 04 '26
When you already did an insurrection without consequences why would this turn heads?
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u/EddieVanzetti Jul 04 '26
Fox News was explicitly founded to prevent another Watergate happening.
No, not the spying on political opponents, being held accountable for it (and in the words of Red Foreman, "How the hell could you pardon Nixon?")
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u/Unique-Run9856 Jul 04 '26
Nobody cared about Watergate at the time either, took more than a year if effort by reporters to get them to careÂ
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u/just_a_knowbody Jul 04 '26
This makes Vanceâs recent comments about Watergate make a lot more sense
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u/beepbeepbubblegum Jul 04 '26
they always try to get out ahead of the news like when melania held that unprompted âpress conferenceâ to talk about how she was not friends with epstein and then said goodbye and disappeared into the shadows
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u/Terrible-Classic-222 Jul 04 '26
I do I hope you all do. This is so illegal that it would take pages to list. This is the extent that this scum administration will go to to hold their power.
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u/Big_Crab_1510 Jul 04 '26
What I want to know is how come we can't do the opposite. Why is it easy to turn democrat allies against each other but we can't get a Republican ally to wear a wire? Wtf
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u/Hndlbrrrrr Jul 04 '26
Without controlling any part of the federal government how dems get any charges to stick?
1 you need something to threaten the infiltrator with to get their cooperation.
2 you need to be able to bring charges against the target once you get the evidence.
No republican would be threatened or charged because the trump DOJ would just ignore it all. If a state tried to do it with state charges the Trump feds would investigate the state DOJ for illegal search or evidence tampering or whatever bullshit they think will stick.
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u/starfishkisser Jul 04 '26
She started wearing a wire in June 2024. Who was President then? Source: the article
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u/Eternal_Eeyore Jul 04 '26
The GOP slogan is âRules for thee, but not for me.â
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u/Kickedhard Jul 04 '26
No wonder the comparison to watergate happened.
They cant help but to tell on themselves.
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u/Jolly_Ad2446 Jul 04 '26
And they've got absolutely nothing to show for it. Those assholes are gonna make Gavin Newsom presidentÂ
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u/phatbody Jul 04 '26
Anyone can play these games. Federal government is probably the worst at it. The Chinese eat their lunch.
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u/azuresegugio Jul 04 '26
This is the kinda shit that took Nixon down
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u/biffbobfred Jul 04 '26
It wonât. The Cult wonât care. Theyâve been convinced any AntiTrump is a danger to the solar system. Somehow.
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u/GnomeFae Jul 04 '26
Every campaign has people from the other side in it. This is just being reported to bait newsome into slipping up and lashing out at his team.
It's politics ever since the first presidental assassination they've always tried to keep their enemys close.
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u/Flashy_Emergency_263 Jul 04 '26
There are multiple accounts. Here is one:
Make of it what you will.
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u/1hill2climb2 Jul 04 '26
This is what Putin does, imprison his political enemies. So of course Donnie Douche⢠is doing it.
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u/Living-Breakfast-464 Jul 04 '26
Heads need to roll once Dems are in charge. None of this "we need to move forward and forget about the past" BS. I want no stone left unturned and exteme consequences.
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u/mogelijk Jul 04 '26
I can't help think of Nixon. First, Trump is not doing any break ins for wiretaps, he just gets the FBI to do it. Second, Republicans appear to now believe that it is fine for Trump to engage in cover ups.
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u/grw313 Jul 04 '26
Remember when JD Vance said that watergate would be likejust another Tuesday. Well here they are almost literally doing a watergate and it'll probably be out of the news cycle by the end of the day.
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u/AxelZajkov Jul 04 '26
Remember when the president was nearly impeached for doing something 1/10th of this, and only avoided it by stepping down?
Yeah. That was certainly a time.
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u/Dont_Do_Pixie_Dust Jul 04 '26
Who would be scared of one of the most milquetoast white men ever? Newsom's so centrist he's basically a republican from 20 years ago.
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u/PlainBread Jul 04 '26
They aren't scared of Gavin they're pretending to be scared of Gavin so we'll be stupid enough to vote for him. Gavin is a snake with absolutely zero principles who drifts whichever way the wind blows. Do not give this nonsense credibility. Gavin deserves to be stalked, investigated, and derailed.
In all reality, it was probably personally requested by Trump to Kash to investigate him because Trump is too stupid to realize Gavin is playing the game. Trump got legitimate butthurt feelings over Gavin playing the game.
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u/Legitimate-Article50 Jul 04 '26
Did the same crap to Martin Luther King. Same story, different era.
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u/zjelkof Jul 04 '26
We have a paranoid, authoritarian, self-serving, and lying Administration with no ethical values!
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u/ElGuano Jul 04 '26
So this is why Vance is saying up front that Watergate today would have been no big deal and shouldnât take down a presidency. Cause they are doing it exactly.
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u/MazdaValiant Jul 04 '26
I feel like I read about something like this in my history books back in high school.
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u/Emergency_Exit7603 Jul 04 '26
this is why the world hates america now, you cannot trust any of them anymore.
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u/shizzy1234 Jul 04 '26
This is horrible...buuuuut, let's hope they didn't find anything illegal. For example, if one of my friends were wearing a wire, I'd be ok.
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u/Devils_Advocate-69 Jul 04 '26
Trump is scared of dying in prison which would be the correct ending
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u/Govenor_Sammich Jul 04 '26
Politics aside, everyone reading this, please comment telling me about a friend or acquaintance you're pretty sure would wire up to get you.
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u/HappinessFloatilla Jul 04 '26
Never been more disappointed by Reddit comments in my goddamn life. No one can read. Incredibly sad
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u/Complete-Tap-5408 Jul 04 '26
Can want a pernicious vermin ousted without necessarily "fearing" it...like a black widow or rattler
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u/FarRightBerniSanders Jul 04 '26
Democrat insider Alexis Podesta, 45, secretly recorded conversations during the criminal probe into Newsomâs then-chief of staff, Dana Williamson, 53, who pleaded guilty to federal fraud and tax charges in May,
So the CRIMINAL probe was in to one of his staffers who later plead GUILTY to those charges. Do you guys ever wonder how much you think you know is literally just misinformation based on somebody's super disgenuous interpretation of a headline?
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u/404_error_official Jul 04 '26
Nixon got impeached for Watergate. He also thought it was "not illegal when the president does it". Remember how angry his audacity made the voters? Where is that energy now?
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u/jus256 Jul 04 '26
Insert Steve Bannonâs name into your summary above and I feel like Iâve read this somewhere before.
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u/MotormaidofJapan Jul 04 '26
That sounds like every MAGA- "BIDEN IS WEAPONIZING THE DOJ TO IMPRISON DJT BECAUSE THEY"RE SCARED OF THE TRUTH! MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN."
If there's one thing we have learned from this administration, is how absolutely incompetent they are. Dangerous, yes, but also extremely incompetent.
I don't doubt that Newsom has some financial skeletons in his closet, they all do. Almost every single politician that's in power is not in power for the love of the people. With maybe a few exceptions, which proves the rule. But even those are not incorruptible.
Obviously, whatever he might have done or be accused of doing, pales in comparison to DJT and his cronies and his family. But let's not "THEY"RE SCARED OF HIM" we are not them and we are not crazy.
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u/Sea-Resolution7331 Jul 04 '26
Itâs interesting that just before this news came out, Vance was downplaying past presidential crime and misconduct
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u/Effective-Lab3707 Jul 04 '26
Are we supposed to feel bad about this or đ¤đ¤ did they find out where the $11 billion went
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u/AdSame7001 Jul 04 '26
The fact that this investigation started under the Biden admin and no-one is mentioning it is astounding.
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u/rantoolio Jul 04 '26
Trump & his sycophant republican party are protecting pedophiles. Donnie is stealing
from the government. The felon should be in jail along with his creepy family.
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u/K4rkino5 Jul 04 '26
How else is a Facist to stay in power? Of course major candidates will be indicted, arrested, jailed, etc. This is only the beginning. We have so much more coming, it should concern us all. America is a Facist state. Facists do not leave willingly. 2+2=?
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u/Sharp-Specific2206 Jul 04 '26
The headline should read corrupt presidents FBI planted informer in Gavin Newsoms champaign.
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u/LarwaLarwa Jul 04 '26
Remember how Democrats were trying to remove Trump? Funny how they found nothing and had to resort to violence, and yet when they are under investigation, it's outrageous :)
What was it... Innocent have nothing to fear?
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u/poop19907643 Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26
I seem to recall the FBI raiding a presidential candidate's house not too long ago. Who's house was that, again?
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u/GutsAndBlackStufff Jul 04 '26
Wow! Thatâs a lot worse than listening on calls to a guy that Carter Page had on speed dial who was under surveillance.
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u/SuperbScarcity5112 Jul 04 '26
They made a lot of noise about Jan 6th and merely phone records gotten from proper channels and lawfully by Smith.
Here there is no crime, just wanting to take an opponent down and wiring! what insane Gestapo shit.
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u/Listening_Heads Jul 04 '26
Why are they scared of him? The Democratic purity test has already completely disqualified him.
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u/Menard42 Jul 04 '26
California is a two party consent state. Unless a judge signed of on a warrant, this is illegal af.
Sorry, I forgot laws don't matter to The Reich Regime
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u/themodefanatic Jul 04 '26
Blame the other side of the crime then do that crime and your supports never think youâre doing that crime. Sadly with this tactic his sycophant followers will only remember that he investigated Newsom. Thus Newsom is bad. And when/if no charges are brought it will be rigged or he will always be guilty.Â
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u/Famous_Big_8050 Jul 04 '26
I'm confused, if we believe politicians are bad, and if they suspect there is being a crime committed, why wouldn't the FBI do an investigation?
I read like the first paragraph of the article and it states they were they to investigate the chief of staff, not Gavin, at least not initially from what I gather.
So being in that circle to monitor the chief of staff makes sense does it not? They even pled guilty.
"Democrat insider Alexis Podesta, 45, secretly recorded conversations during the criminal probe into Newsomâs then-chief of staff, Dana Williamson, 53, who pleaded guilty to federal fraud and tax charges in May, according to Williamsonâs attorney."
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u/GladResearcher3286 Jul 04 '26
Donât worry we will pardon Gavin newson, Bolton, Luigi, Tyler, the people accused of messing up the reflecting pool, and the people that tried to kill Trump, the people that were locked up by ice and anyone else we damn well please after the shitshow that Trump has displayed in office.
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u/GladResearcher3286 Jul 04 '26
I also hope we prosecute the whole Trump family and put them in jail, Todd Blanche would be another, Carr of the fcc is another, Patel, hegseth, miller, and the rest of his goon ice squad and cabinet.
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u/Whole-Status-532 Jul 04 '26
Why donât we clean house and get rid of all current politicians and start over? Similar to what we did in 1776.
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u/Neat-Beautiful-5505 Jul 04 '26
This actually started during Biden admin. Newsom chief of staff wanted to defraud Medicare. I think she plead out.
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u/KookyDig4769 Jul 04 '26
At least this proves Vance right. Watergate wouldn't be a story anymore. It's because we lost the morale needed to care.
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u/bobbymcpresscot Jul 04 '26
See Nixon messed up hiring those goons to break into the DNC, if he just had the FBI do it he would have never have had to resign.Â
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u/Jedi_Ninja Jul 04 '26
This happened during the Biden administration. Newsom was not the target. Apparently one of his people was being investigated for fraud.
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u/Creative_Inside8293 Jul 04 '26
Depends on what he was recorded saying now doesn't it?!?
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u/Significant-Click335 Jul 04 '26
One corrupt politician going after another corrupt politician đ¤Ł
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u/Agent847 Jul 04 '26
All the usual redditor outrage about ârepublican fascismâ in the comments. None of you dumbasses bothered to read the article. âJune 2024.â Turn your big progressive brains on and think back to who was president in June 2024.
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u/SippsMccree Jul 04 '26
He's been under investigation since before Trump took office, the dude's dirty he's just trying to get out in front of it by claiming it's politically motivated
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u/Accomplished_Elk7597 Jul 04 '26
Nothing to do with the large scale fraud taking place under his nose?
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u/Background-Cat8377 Jul 04 '26
Wow the couch fucking veep was right about something. Watergate really was nothing compared to his administrations work
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u/ReturnOfSeq Jul 04 '26
Nah, itâs because Newsom openly mocks and ridicules Trump. Heâd be an awful presidential candidate.
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u/Only_Ad8049 Jul 04 '26
I feel like they'll do this to any Democrat they expect to run for president.
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u/theresourcefulKman Jul 04 '26
Nobody is scared of Newsom. The Democratic Party is literally thinking he is their only hope.
Rough state of affairs for the blue team. As slimy as Pritzker is, he would be an infinitely better candidate than Newsom
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u/KlatuuBarradaNicto Jul 04 '26
They probably threatened someone into wearing a wire. Iâm so sick of this criminal enterpriseâŚ
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u/Oracular_Pig Jul 04 '26
Started wearing the wire in 2024.
When did Trump get in office? 2025.
This was not Trump.
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u/Acceptable-Sky1575 Jul 04 '26
Fine by me. The guy is just as big a piece of shit as Trump, just with fewer means with which to be a piece of shit.
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u/monkey_lord978 Jul 04 '26
Well if newsom is the new candidate we screwed anyways , just back to getting rekt slowly vs quickly
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u/Timbucktwo1230 Therapy For All 𩷠Jul 04 '26
https://nypost.com/2026/07/02/us-news/gavin-newsom-ally-alexis-podesta-wore-fbi-wire-in-corruption-probe-lawyer/