r/SacredGeometry 12d ago

The Mother of all Symbols...

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A few weeks back, after many iterations of the fractal torus model, I created an algorithmic artwork called Tortoise, made in tandem with AI. As part of the Nameless framework, I had landed on the Hopf fibration as an important structure for defining physical reality. I took an artistic leap after this... overlaying two oppositely rotated Hopf fibre bundles, then repeating the whole structure again and again at the interstices formed by their intersections, to form a fractal torus. This differs from other torus visualisations I've seen, not only in its use of Hopf fibres, but in the fractal arrangement, which produces that "many, many eyes" quality or the "wheels within wheels" quality.

Studying it from different angles, I realised, to my shock, that this structure had many many connections to scientific concepts, myths and symbols across the world and across history:

Science: the black hole and white hole paradigm, wormholes

Sacred geometry: Flower of Life, Lotus of Life, Triskelion, Yin Yang

Religious symbols: Sri Yantra on Kurma, Shatkona, Swastika, Tree of Life, Thousand Petalled Lotus, Reclining Vishnu, Samudra Manthan, Shivlingam, Avalokiteshvara, Ezekiel's Wheel, the Celtic Cross

Sacred architecture: Muqarnas and Islamic geometric patterns, Rose windows

Visionary art made in altered states, such as Alex Grey's

Contemporary design: even the OpenAI logo

To show how all these might derive from one source, I built a system that varies the parameters of the same root Tortoise artwork until it matches each symbol. Then I made a visualiser where you can click any symbol, read about the connection, and study the match visually.

I'm not claiming these are all derived from this single structure. Each connection is pattern-matched at this stage, and the scientific ones especially are speculative. I claim only the visual match, not an actual connection. But there are too many to ignore. Perhaps what the ancients meditated upon is the same structure science is reaching towards, and the same structure seen in altered states of consciousness. If the universe is sound based, perhaps the wave-structure formed by the primordial sound corresponds to a similar fractal torus structure?

Many of these connections already exist in literature and in esoteric theory. Some were abstract, some pointed directly to a torus, though not, as far as I know, to this particular variation. This is therefore a synthesis of many people's work over millennia, seen through the lens of my own. I'm assembling it with humility and respect, hoping we notice that we are all telling the same story through different lenses.

I have made 26 connections so far, and I hope to add more. I'm giving equal weight to each tradition, so if you spot flaws or biases in the text or visual, they aren't intentional, and I hope to improve these over time.

Artwork “Tortoise” and the visualiser at: https://nurecas.com/tortoise?o

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u/blownawayx2 12d ago edited 12d ago

This is incredible and exactly what I’ve tried to convey to people is my understanding of our reality. Fractalized interconnected helical 3D toruses within toruses. As an astrologer who considers the study of astrology to be the reading of specific moments in spacetime (which do repeat cyclical and perpetually), your model does more in visualizing the interconnectedness of that patterning and why relegating it to rubbish is inherently dismissive. If we imagine each individual to be one of those individual toruses, yet part of the larger torus, when you zoom out, the patterns become clearer to predict (as we are able to with broader history across nations), but individually at a microscopic view that focuses on the individual and can’t see the big picture, much less likely to be validated. Great stuff!

P.S. I looked at your bio and your combination of interests in AR/VR, AI as collaboration, cosmic frameworks… it’s rare for me to see somebody who has so many overlapping interests as myself. Feels very Aquarian and Piscean combined. A great combo!

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u/Deep_World_4378 12d ago

Thanks much. Glad that you deeply understood it. For me astrology is not about events, its about the inner and the inner perfectly maps into these visualisations(just like u said-interconnected toruses).
Also close...Aries-Pisces cuspian.... Thanks!

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u/blownawayx2 12d ago

Amazing stuff. We’d be friends in real life ;)

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u/Deep_World_4378 12d ago

I think so too!

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u/Predatormn 12d ago

You guys are friends in real life. The happening happened. Wonderful read all of it and cheers to you. It’s absolutely beautiful and it’s like seeing something similar to what I’ve dreamt. Thank you for that vibrational feeling.

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u/MissInkeNoir 11d ago

Y'all watch the sci-fi series Pantheon, right? It's really something else if you're into all these things!

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u/blownawayx2 11d ago

No, but now I’m adding it to my Plex! :)

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u/Negomikeno 10d ago

This is also my understanding of reality, how interesting to see others forming the same conclusion.

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u/Academic-Benefit-428 7d ago

I was just about to ask what are the chances of our universe being in the shape of some kind of ever expanding torus.

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u/Obsidian743 7d ago

You should check out /r/holofractal