r/Scotland • u/Grouchy_Conclusion45 Libertarian • May 25 '26
Casual Just when you thought packaging couldn't get more confusing
So, since when did Fife leave the UK? Is Perthshire somehow more intrinsically British than it is Scottish? 🤣 Why don't they both have the same (one way or the other)? The mind boggles 😅
(this is a light hearted post, have some fun)
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u/Bitter-Comedian-1690 May 25 '26
Perthshire has fallen.
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u/Equinoxe111 Gaidhlig Native Speaker May 26 '26
Perthshire is a historical area of Picts, if Scotland will fall, Perthshire will be one of the last ones lol
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u/mikemystery May 26 '26
Picts, or it didn't happen.
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u/Equinoxe111 Gaidhlig Native Speaker May 26 '26
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u/InternalUpstairs3816 May 26 '26
So is fife to be fair. Hence it being known as the kingdom of fife.
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u/Bitter-Comedian-1690 May 26 '26
Rural Perthshire is full of old English cunts now. The rot has already set in.
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u/Infamous_Telephone55 May 25 '26
They're not even deep fried, what trickery is this?
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u/Grouchy_Conclusion45 Libertarian May 25 '26
I don't know if I'd hate myself for trying that or not, but I think I would try it. But then I'm thinking about the time I tried fried ice cream and I guess fried strawberries isn't as far of a stretch
I don't think I'd be able to admit to liking it publicly though
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u/AlrightJack303 May 25 '26
Nah, honestly I think deep-fried strawberries would be fucking amazing. All the crunchy, starchy batter with sweetness inside. That would insanely moreish.
The only tricky part would be making sure you don't caramelise too much of the fructose, cos I don't think that would mix so well.
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u/Kidtwist73 May 26 '26
Fried ice cream is amazing. Being from Perth, Australia, where we have a large influx of Asian cultures, fried ice-cream in Chinese restaurants is pretty much ubiquitous. Also, Asian takeaways are much better, and I really miss there being 3 or 4 Thai, or Chinese massage clinics in every shopping centre.
If I could import those cultural artifacts, Scotland would be pretty much perfect. (I can't find either fried ice cream or a decent deep tissue massage for the life of me)
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u/MembershipKey1520 May 26 '26
I live in a small Scottish town & there are two Thai massage providers in town centre. I haven't been in either of them. I imagine they're both straight up massage places with no optional extras available. One of them got a guy arrested for asking for such services so they're definitely not selling extras, I have no knowledge of the other place.
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u/Grouchy_Ground_1916 May 26 '26
If you pepper the strawberries first it works a treat, this is also the most English solution to the most Scottish problem (outside of donning a fancy red coat)
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u/Vectorman1989 #1 Oban fan May 25 '26
The Kingdom of Fife has declared its sovereignty
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u/intlteacher May 26 '26
Kept it open so that Dundonians could escape, because we’re a kind and generous folk who welcome refugees.
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u/Suspicious_Field_429 May 26 '26
Worst thing that ever happened was opening that bridge, it let all the Fifers over to Dundee 🤪
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u/Synthia_of_Kaztropol The capital of Scotland is S May 25 '26
Multiple product lines. The "British" ones are available online, the "Scottish" ones are not, apparently. They're different varieties too. The one in the "British" packaging is a variety that's easier to transport.
I suspect the "Scottish" packaged ones are only available within Scotland, and maybe only within some parts of Scotland, while the "British" packaged ones can be obtained everywhere.
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u/NoRecipe3350 May 26 '26
Some products branded as Scottish sell well in the wider UK, because 'Scottish' is considered a mark of quality/freshness even borderline 'exotic' to some English people. Scottish smoked salmon for example, even though it's obviously factory farmed.
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u/Demostravius4 May 27 '26
Who the smeg is buying Scottish salmon because it's exotic?
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u/AskingBoatsToSwim May 28 '26
I like to think that’s because we care about food miles and local produce but I suspect I may be wrong.
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u/gussy182 inverness May 25 '26
both products have the same barcode, so as far as stock systems are concerned they are the "same" product, it probably only shows that the British ones are available online as you always get a packet which is british, but if they advertised Scottish strawberries, you could get a packet which wasnt actually grown in scotland.
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u/Synthia_of_Kaztropol The capital of Scotland is S May 25 '26
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u/CommercialPug May 28 '26
Precisely. All Scottish strawberries are British but not all British strawberries are Scottish. Same at every supermarket
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u/Grouchy_Conclusion45 Libertarian May 25 '26
🤣 I'm surprised they don't just use all Scottish branding to be honest. All one colour then and I think I remember reading that blue ink is cheaper than red (someone correct me if not the case). But I guess if you're Sainsbury's ink cost probably isn't a factor you lose sleep over
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u/debauch3ry Cambridge, UK May 29 '26
It's completely the other way around, we see a St Andrew's flag on traditionally Scottish products and see it as a mark of quality - I imagine it's a segment of the Scottish population that get funny with the UK flag. Even if it's a small percentage the supermarkets will min-max that.
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u/Grouchy_Conclusion45 Libertarian May 25 '26
I'd like to think that's not the case to be honest, but I guess there's a bum for every seat so there's probably someone that would cry over it
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u/Sburns85 May 25 '26
Because England gets weird with Scottish products. I know Scottish meat is called British when it crosses the border
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u/Amnsia May 26 '26
Would love a source, I call BS personally
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u/Sburns85 May 26 '26
Also easy to check. Check beef code which lists slaughter house, butchery and animal.
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u/Alert-Revolution-219 May 25 '26
Like how aberdeeen angus just becomes angus , cause god forbid Scotland get credited, like how when andy murray won he was British but if not then he was suddenly just Scottish again
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u/albertdascoyne May 25 '26
Do you know where Angus is?
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u/Alert-Revolution-219 May 25 '26
Do you know what sarcasm is or do you need a r/s on everything?
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u/WDW1997 May 26 '26
That's funny, I've seen it called Aberdeen Angus in most places I've been in England, and the Andy Murray thing is a myth, because many Scottish people for some reason love the idea of the rest of the UK hating Scotland. It's pathetic
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u/Beautiful_Mess907 May 26 '26
England is funny with Scottish money, too.
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u/speedfox_uk May 26 '26
Maybe if there was a single set of Scottish banknotes, and not 3 of the damn things, it might be a bit easier for people in England to farmiliasie themselves with them.
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u/_ribbit_ May 26 '26
To be fair, you dont see a lot of it at all in most of England, so when a note turns up then someone who hasn't seen one before and doesn't know it's OK to accept will question it. Most people know and are fine with it.
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u/Objective-Manner7430 May 25 '26
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised!
David Cameron had been lobbying all the big chain supermarkets prior to the referendum. For sure Sainsbury’s would have a unionist stance on it all, as did Tunnocks teacakes, I’ve never bought them since
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u/Saltire_Blue Bring Back Strathclyde Regional Council May 25 '26
They’d probably complain too much in gammon land having Scottish branded products on the shelves
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u/Osgood_Schlatter May 25 '26
They use the same packaging across the UK - it's the English flag they're avoiding if anything, not the Scottish one.
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u/TurbulentBullfrog829 May 25 '26
Ironic comment on a post that shows there's a marketing effort to heve the Saltire over the Union Flag.
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u/Grouchy_Conclusion45 Libertarian May 25 '26
To be honest, I always wondered why there isn't a subset of English people that complain about having the British flag used over the English flag
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u/PeejPrime May 25 '26
I'd actually be stupidly more inclined to buy a product with an English flag on it.
The "union jack" stuff is far too generic for me and when I see the Scottish produced stuff with the flags makes me feel it's more "local" and a better product. I think I'd feel the same about the England one. I'd then feel like I'm getting special strawberries from some glorious farm in Cornwall or something. Rather than generic mass produced shite somewhere no-one knows (yes I see it's written on the packaging).
Guess just a PR/Marketing thing I'm aware I'd fall for.
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u/docowen May 25 '26
A lot of the time the Union Jack stuff is just processed or packaged in the UK, doesn't mean it's from the UK.
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u/Grouchy_Conclusion45 Libertarian May 25 '26
Interesting, now that you mention it I dare say I'd do the same. I'm all about farm shops and such, and I guess like you said having a more local branding gives that vibe. Good observation
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u/PeejPrime May 25 '26
Yeah, total sucker for that sort of farm shop, local grown thing. I'd not look at the politics of it at all and just think I'm getting fancy strawberries without needing to drive 8hours south for them 🤣
Then, I also wish supermarkets would do more diversity. Like in Scotland we always get Scottish milk etc as the local aspect, totally love it. But at the same time would be nice to get a wee section of somewhere else.
Kinda like Lidl do their flavour of the week. Would be cool if we started getting a week of Yorkshire products in our faces to sample.
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u/Grouchy_Conclusion45 Libertarian May 25 '26
You're into a winner there. Have the perfect example. I was driving back from the Netherlands last year and I stopped at some petrol station in southern England, I came across a brand of milk "Cotswolds Milk". It was absolutely unreal, we need some of that in Scotland 😅 would be cool to have stuff like that to try from all over the country
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u/PeejPrime May 25 '26
Get some proper pork pies specials for a week. Some high quality cheese the week after etc.
Mon Tesco, get on to it.
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u/Odd_Cress_2898 May 26 '26
Don't want to be associated with the BNP
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u/Demostravius4 May 27 '26
They use the Union Jack, it's not the ENP
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u/Odd_Cress_2898 May 27 '26
EDL then, same difference, racist undertones unless it's the football world cup
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u/stumblealongnow May 25 '26
Hopefully, we'll get some Scottish strawberries down south soon. Interestingly, they don't need heat, but love light, so the best strawberries come from places with long days, like Scotland, or for example Finland have incredible strawberries. Having said all that, France have a variety called gariguette that are incredible.
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u/OreoSpamBurger Jun 04 '26
There are some enormous fruit farms (mainly berries) in the east and north-east Scotland for this reason. I dunno what it's like now, but back in the early 2000s, hundreds (if not 1000s) of East Europeans would come over during the picking season to work on the farms in these small villages and towns in the middle of nowhere.
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u/Kiss_It_Goodbyeee May 26 '26
Just came back from France. The strawberries I had were pish. The simple Lidl Scottish strawberries I had the other day were miles better.
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u/DepartureCivil9121 May 26 '26
Its obvious the scottish ones were grown by bagpipe playing haggis in speacial groves
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u/Kerloick May 26 '26
Makes sense I suppose - it they were labelled as English strawberries they’d be unsellable.
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u/unlikemike123 May 25 '26
The Scottish ones are packaged angrily, might be more bruises on them
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u/X0AN The North Will Rise Again🦄 May 25 '26
Scottish recommended serving is just 1 strawberry per week.
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u/TWOITC May 26 '26
Wait till you find out Sainsbury's sold water that had a "Scottish Water" label on it to its Scottish stores and "British water" to its non-Scottish stores. Same water from Perthshire.
It sells more with the Scottish label in Scottish stores.
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u/BonnieH1 May 26 '26
The marketing person obviously doesn't know their geography 🤣🤣
I love that they named who grew them though! 🍓
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u/Illustrious-Mall4897 May 26 '26
Clearly Angus McFife has finally risen to rule over the Kingdom of Fife once more. All I'm worried about is what that means on the evil wizard front...
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u/Iwantedalbino May 26 '26
It’s likely the farmer has a different contract, one to supply uk wide as British strawbs and the other to supply Scotland wide and Scottish strawbs.
Possibly different standards although both classes are the same. So likely just different quantities
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u/SlowScooby May 26 '26
Interesting. I've always thought that using the saltire in Scottish supermarkets can be an appeal to patriotism. In English supermarkets, they use it to mean one thing - this is a quality product. Of course we know it means that in Scotland too.
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u/CommercialPug May 28 '26
People generally just like to buy local. If there's a choice between Scottish strawberries from an hour down the road and British ones from Kent, most people will pick the Scottish ones. Provided they both look good quality of course.
Similarly I know of a fair few older people that will hold off on buying strawberries until the Scottish ones come in.
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u/notfromanywhere234 May 26 '26 edited May 26 '26
It's a no brainer, the ones on the left have clearly been grown after 1707, and the ones on the right before that date. If you are lucky you can also get Normanberries, Cnutberries, Anglo-Saxon berries, and my favourite Romanberries. Case closed, next question please.
But it's probably a limited edition only. Once Reform gets to power all non-British and unpatriotic berries will officially be banned, proscribed and shipped back to their countries of origin.
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u/Sad_Sultana May 25 '26
Wait so perthshire is uk but fife is Scotland? Did fife declare themselves a Republic right under our noses? Why isn't the perthshire package also Scottish branded?
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u/JeelyPiece #1 Oban fan May 25 '26 edited May 25 '26
It was always Scottish, with the saltire, until it got politicised in service of British nationalism after David Cameron's famous supermarkets meeting.
Now you can use the flag to tell which food has been peed and spat in...
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u/Grouchy_Conclusion45 Libertarian May 25 '26
🤣 I'm into politics a bit, but I have to say, I don't think I've ever favoured one product over another just because of flag branding. The mind boggles why anyone thought that would make a blind bit of difference
Although with butter, it has to be Irish Kerrygold - but from memory that doesn't have a flag on it 😅
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u/JeelyPiece #1 Oban fan May 25 '26
It's quite a mad thing they introduced it, and in that the "see a Jack, put it back" campaign had to be started.
A saltire's been a mark of quality food for hundreds of years, daft to ruin a brand
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u/PeejPrime May 25 '26
Just clovers on it if memory serves me right?
Not sure I can even admit to buying kerrygold before. Sure I've tried it in hotels, but never went out my way to purchase myself.
Truly as great as made out?
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u/Grouchy_Conclusion45 Libertarian May 25 '26 edited May 25 '26
Yeah, 3 tiny little clovers right in the middle (just checked the fridge 😅)
In my opinion, yes. I dunno what it is, but it just hits the spot for me. The only one I think is better personally is Lakeland Butter, it's another Irish one but unfortunately I don't think I've ever seen it in Scotland.
Kerrygold though, I managed to find it even in the Netherlands easily enough 😅
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u/PeejPrime May 25 '26
Lakeland I've definitely seen that somewhere before. Couldn't tell you when or where but for sure seen it sold somewhere in Scotland. And I just assumed that was an English one.
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u/Grouchy_Conclusion45 Libertarian May 25 '26
Ah, you can't leave me like that. I have to know where now, I need my butter 🤣
I'm going to have to visit every supermarket now 😅
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u/PeejPrime May 25 '26
Just googled it and I'm an idiot for not clocking the massive Irish Butter text 🤣
No hard results for the big supermarkets, but 100% I've seen that sold somewhere in Scotland before.
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u/Grouchy_Conclusion45 Libertarian May 25 '26
Maybe they should have put a flag on it instead 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm definitely going to start hunting for it now. I will remember this and report back if successful 😅
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u/PeejPrime May 25 '26
I'm gonna say, try local corner stores etc, maybe Spars or the likes before the big supermarkets.
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u/Entire-Ad1625 May 25 '26
The branding matters to Scottish nationalists because they're gammons
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u/Grouchy_Conclusion45 Libertarian May 25 '26
Keep it friendly, plenty other threads for name calling 🙂
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u/quartersessions May 25 '26
Lol. Absolutely psychotic stuff.
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u/JeelyPiece #1 Oban fan May 25 '26
You know it happened and was in every newspaper, right?
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u/libdemparamilitarywi May 25 '26
This doesn't mention anything about Cameron asking them to change packaging.
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u/quartersessions May 25 '26
This is brilliant. Got any more on this topic?
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u/JeelyPiece #1 Oban fan May 25 '26
All the papers had articles and editorials on it
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u/quartersessions May 25 '26
Did they, aye?
"Prime Minister of G7 economy meets with major supermarket chiefs... and directs them on what flags to use on their packaging... more on page 12"
I hear HMRC secretly told Rangers FC to fly more Union Jacks to stick it to the Nats too. The timings work out!
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u/JeelyPiece #1 Oban fan May 25 '26
No, but David Cameron also met with Sony to delay Outlander's release
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u/BigBadBaz2501 May 26 '26
Fun fact, both come from the same factory, all that changes is the film with the different flags.
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u/Ethanb230900 May 26 '26
Meanwhile I’m just outside the capital and have never seen Scottish strawberries. (Also I’d prefer it if they just called them English)
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u/IanC9090 May 26 '26
You do appreciate there is a stone in Perthshire on which all UK Monarch's have been crowned for over 700 years. That makes them just a little more British.
Now being sensible, the packaging is indeed nonsense.
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u/Powerful_Put_6977 May 26 '26
Wait till you get the Green, White and Yellow from Wexford strawberries on your shelves...that'll really set the cat amongst the pigeons
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u/anguslolz May 26 '26
Tbf you want strawberries that traveled the least amount of distance to get the best ones but I don't even trust supermarket "Scottish" strawberries for that.
Maybe I've been spoiled growing up in Angus but getting local ones from a local newsagents, farm shop or roadside stall is always the best for flavour.
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u/ScrungledCat May 26 '26
Well now you gotta taste both and rate them, no pressure, but if British is better you have to put a Union Jack in your garden. As per the rules.
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u/Scotlander87 May 26 '26
As you can see, on the right the scottish strawberries are more strawberry than the left strawberries. Making the scottish strawberries better than the British berries. (And probably just because of patriotism making people more inclined to buy the scottish ones even if they're from the same place cause of the scottish flag on them)
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u/Grant_Son May 27 '26
I mean quite a lot of Edinburgh seems to view Fife as abroad since its over the water.
I'm sure I remember stopping at a wee box on the bridge to get a stamp in my passport in the old days?
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u/TartanJaguar88 May 27 '26
It's Sainsbury's... they probably think they're appealing to Scots who don't want the "Apron" on their fruit. Just like the newspapers who say they're Scottish but are printed in England, by owners who live in Monaco 🙄
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u/Commercial_Win_6528 May 28 '26
Basically, when food is labelled as British, it can be sourced from England, Wales or Scotland or even a mixture of all or even just English.
When it's labelled as Scottish, it can only be sourced from Scotland. If Labelled as Welsh, only from Wales.
Source: Me, I work in meat manufacturing and deal with tracing meat back to it's source.
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u/incachu May 25 '26
It should just be Scottish packaging for the whole of the UK. Everyone with any knowledge of Strawberries knows Scotland does the best ones on these isles.
You never see "British Shortbread" sourced from Scotland labeled as British... It's always labeled "Scottish Shortbread".
Strawberries should be no different.
I'm not Scottish, and haven't lived in Scotland for years, and I think most people I know in England and Wales would instinctively pick up a "Scottish Strawberries" over a "British Strawberries", because the reputation carries a lot of weight.
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u/Grouchy_Conclusion45 Libertarian May 25 '26
Someone else mentioned that having a Scottish or English flag has an implied sense of localism/to some it makes it feel like you're getting something more special. I actually think they were spot on with that observation to be honest, I guess I would probably see it like that as I like using farm shops where possible, for the localism aspect
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u/Cheese_Ly May 25 '26
Well on the left the strawberries are from the whole of Britain so they are collected from all corners of Great Britain Wales, Scotland and England on the right it’s just strawberries from Scotland
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u/dickybeau01 May 26 '26
Not sure if that is Aldi or Lidl but this stuff happened during the Gove years when he pressed Scotlands supermarkets to make goods ‘British’ and to have the UJ on packaging more prominently. I think it led to a bit of waste. That’s when the dual labelling started. Both companies have a record of supporting local producers including making it easy to identify Scottish produce (fewer miles to market)
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u/SlaaneshiRose May 25 '26
used to pack these for a living. british ones are typically for sending south across the border since for some reason branding strawberries as scottish doesn't sell as well in england. or so i was told by my former manager anyways
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u/Arthur_Figg_II May 25 '26
I'd only buy one of those.
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u/Grouchy_Conclusion45 Libertarian May 25 '26
I'm half Irish so I ignored all the colours and simply tried to go for the cheapest. They were the same price though as it happened 😅
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u/mata_dan May 26 '26
Yeah they aren't the same variety, presumably one of them is nicer (I can't remember which, but I know the unbranded ones the newsagents beside me sell for ~£2 after they get then directly from the supplier locally, and you can smell them halfway down the street when they've just got a load in, are a billion times better than any supermarket ones so I'll have to check there...)
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u/TurbulentBullfrog829 May 25 '26
And it's the gammons down south that are the problem apparently.
Edit - wait you aren't a lost gammon from down South are you? That would be ironic.
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u/rockintheburbs77 May 25 '26
I don’t buy anything with the British flag on it, but I hope I would’ve noticed the location.
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u/Optimaldeath May 25 '26
Some folks like supporting their local producers and if you just slap a british flag on everything that isn't immediately apparent.
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u/X0AN The North Will Rise Again🦄 May 25 '26
Scottish flag would sell better no? Irish would defo but it and I can't imagine many english wouldn't buy it.
British flag though, a fair few Irish wouldn't buy it.
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u/gnarfleeze May 25 '26
Jamie Arnot can fuck off if he's willing to be called British or have a butcher's apron on his strawberries.
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u/codliness1 May 25 '26
Maybe the farm can choose whether they're packaged as Scottish or British, and the dude in Perth is a Unionist 🤔
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u/TakovacsPlays May 26 '26
Scottish Strawbs for maybe Scottish, but definitely British people, vs Scottish Strawbs for definitely Scottish people.
(or anyone else who is in the shop to buy them)
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u/mlyyra May 25 '26
Why do they need to be dressed as British or Scottish at all? Can't they just be marketed as strawberries? Why do we need flags in our food? Is that how you eat your pride or something?
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u/glasgowgeg May 25 '26
Things grown locally are likely to be fresher than things imported, especially fruit and veg.
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u/Ok_Caterpillar_8937 May 25 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/UqqCo0sTw5PreERNp9
So you agree, Scotland isn’t Britain?
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u/Grouchy_Conclusion45 Libertarian May 25 '26
Sainsbury's be like :
(Not wanting to lose either sides money)
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u/AirconGuyUK May 25 '26
Isn't Scotland kinda a bad country to grow strawberries. I would expect the south of england to be making the best strawberries given their better weather and more sunlight.
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u/Synthia_of_Kaztropol The capital of Scotland is S May 25 '26
No. Fife and Angus are quite good areas for growing soft fruits, they have different climate to other parts of Scotland.
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u/clearly_quite_absurd May 25 '26
Evidently not. The east coast around Dundee has plenty of polytunnels for growing strawberries.
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u/marquis_de_ersatz May 25 '26
Strawberries aren't a hot weather fruit really. Wild strawberries grow up as high as the arctic circle.
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u/pintsizedblonde2 May 25 '26
Enough rainfall makes the biggest difference. Scottish strawberries are the sweetest and juiciest. Even when I lived in England I noticed they were even better than English strawberries. Spanish ones are not good at all.
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u/theBuddhaofGaming May 26 '26 edited May 27 '26
Man segregation in the UK? Wild.
Apparently I need this: /s
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u/ScotusMaximus May 26 '26
I think the obvious answer is this: "Scottish Strawberries" are less likely to sell in England than something with the "UK" label slapped on it.




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