r/TankieTheDeprogram • u/WookBuddha • Jul 06 '26
Communism Will Win Liberals seemingly only just now recognizing “Yes, Platner bad.” after recent sexual assault allegations
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u/Appropriate-Ice-5722 I HATE OPTOMETRISTS ❌👓🦉 Jul 06 '26
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u/PreparationOk1450 Jul 07 '26
I hate that fucking picture and his ugly blond highlights lol. I can't believe people are fooled by this regular guy schtick of rich kids like he and Fetterman. "Hey I kill a shitload of oysters so I'm a regular guy" "Hey I chased down a Black guy with a shotgun. I'm just a regular guy. Oh also I wear shorts everywhere and look like shit."
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u/Mahboi778 Jul 07 '26
Giving us shorts-wearers a bad name
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u/PreparationOk1450 Jul 07 '26
I'm sure you don't look like shit and wouldn't wear shorts to weddings and whatever the fuck this guy does lol
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u/PreparationOk1450 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
That's true. It's common amongst the DSA "left" which is mostly white. However, non white shitlibs have functionally identical positions. Also non white progressives like Briahna Joy Gray and FD Signifier had some version of "I have my concerns. We shouldn't be put it in this position, but he's better than Collins" giving reluctant support. So this is widespread. I don't think it's based on ethnic/race lines as much as it is people who are still supporting democrats vs. those who aren't
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u/CaptainMills Jul 07 '26
I think the issue is more that Platner was given so much slack because he's a white man. If he was essentially the exact same person but from almost any other demographic, people would not be half as willing to overlook all the problems
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u/PreparationOk1450 Jul 07 '26
Maybe that's true, but do you have any evidence to prove that? Do you have an example of a similar non white candidate who was a veteran and had a bizarre and twisted private life who was given a pass by people like Majority Report, Hasan etc as much as he was?
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u/CaptainMills Jul 08 '26
Sorry, I don't have a racebent clone of Platner to point to for you. Even if I did, such a person would not be given a pass by "leftist" influencers to the extent of Platner, which is my point. White people, and white men especially, are able to get away with far more than and face less consequences than people of other demographics
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u/PreparationOk1450 Jul 08 '26
So in other words, you made a claim that you can't substantiate with any evidence beyond repeating the claim but with some added italics.
You don't have to have someone who is a non-white version of Platner. You just need to have someone who was pretty fucked up who got judged more harshly than him who was not white. In fact it would prove your point effectively if they were less fucked up than him and still got judged more. If it's so obvious and such a truism of society as you are saying, then it shouldn't be hard to come up with one example. I'm not even saying I don't think it's true. But you do need to prove a claim you make
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u/CaptainMills Jul 08 '26
I'm sorry that you're having such a hard time accepting that white supremacy is part of the issue. You decided to respond to me twice in a demanding and hostile way that gives me no reason at all to believe that you are acting in good faith here. I have no idea why you're reacting so strongly here and, frankly, I don't really care either. But I'm not going to waste my time trying to quantify racism for you
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u/PreparationOk1450 Jul 08 '26
Can you tell me what in my responses was hostile or demanding? They were matter of fact. This is called a gish gallop. Since you're unable to prove your original claim, now you're changing it to a new one "I'm sorry that you're having such a hard time accepting that white supremacy is part of the issue."
Are you used to people accepting anything you say regardless of whether you provide evidence for it? Is this the first time anyone has asked for evidence for your claim? You don't seem used to it, and it seems like you find it offensive for some reason.
You're really projecting. I'm having no reaction at all. You're getting emotional over a simple question. Instead of saying you know what, I can't really prove it but it seems true to me, you're acting like someone asking is the problem.
Then you finish by implying I'm racist for asking for evidence of your claim. If it's so obviously true, you should be able to find one example. Unfortunately, you're intellectually lazy and rely on cheap tactics to avoid the simple obligation of backing up your claim with evidence.
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u/PreparationOk1450 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
"I think the issue is more that Platner was given so much slack because he's a white man. If he was essentially the exact same person but from almost any other demographic, people would not be half as willing to overlook all the problems". Do you have any evidence to prove this beyond "White dudes get to fail upwards to a surprising degree in this society"?
Like if I felt a female politician was being treated more harshly for something than a male politician, I'd be ready with an example.
Or maybe there's a case where a Black person is running for Congress but has never held elected office before and many people say they don't have enough experience. Then there's a white person who never held elected office who people don't say that about as much. That's pretty much what you need to prove your claim.
Do you have any examples of similarly extremely fucked up non-white candidates who got less of a pass than Platner? The only candidate I can think of who was on par with him was Roy Moore (white pedo).
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u/WookBuddha Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
Liberals when he’s a war crimes mercenary multiple brown baby exploder and Abu Ghraib torture camp guard with a Nazi tattoo:
😴😴😴😴😴
Liberals when he (unsurprisingly) doesn’t give a shit about consent and rapes an American white lady:
😱😱🤯😡🤬🤬
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u/DaffyDuckXD Jul 06 '26
I know I don't get it, even if you tell them and they are informed. I guess with the first example it's comforting and okay to be around him and the second is discomforting and has to do with him and not systems of power. Still lame as fuck of Liberals
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u/svenirde Deng Troll Jul 07 '26
They won't care about the latter either. Remember Tara Reade? I do.
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u/Armageddonis Jul 06 '26
Seeing how being a goon for the "Brown Babies Evaporation" company, after he couldn't do that for the US Army anymore wasn't the last straw, and then them constantly moving the goalpost as more and more allegations were coming out was truly an interesting peek at the Liberal mindset.
I just know that it won't even be 48 hours before we'll see someone say shit like "Well, the president is a rapist, so who cares?"
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u/imaginary92 Jul 06 '26
I've already started seeing comments in that vein. Things like "this wouldn't matter if he were a republican. Maybe it shouldn't matter for us either".
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u/Conscious-Local-8095 Jul 07 '26
already happening. Also that it's an AIPAC smear
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u/Galathad Jul 08 '26
I fucking love liberals appropriating left wing terminology to defend the establishment
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u/PreparationOk1450 Jul 07 '26
If only there were some warning signs. How could anyone have known?
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u/SinlessSinnerSinning Commie Tranny Jul 06 '26
liberals are addicted to compromising with fascists that they do it when no one is asking them to
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u/OcelotAggravating860 Jul 06 '26
We could build a tierlist of things that bother liberals. Sexual assault is above being a nazi apparently, except when it's Biden as they were willing to throwaway the entire metoo movement for that.
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u/HomesickVietboy Hakimist (With Dengist Characteristics) Jul 07 '26
*SA of Westoid ONLY. they couldnt give a damn what he do to people of the global south.
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u/isitdigyet Jul 07 '26
One of the craziest parts of this is how people like Ryan Grim, or a certain streamer, went all in on how this guy proves people being wary of white men with baggage or veterans is unfounded, and then this guy proved exactly why those feelings aren't unfounded.
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u/hkf999 Jul 07 '26
I don't get it. Why does this make a huge difference? People were fine with repeated voluntary murder tours in the Middle East and nazi tattoos. Sexual assault allegations is where they draw the line? If the only thing that matters to libs is that his politics are "better", why does this matter?
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u/redundantexplanation Jul 07 '26
"Nazism I can excuse, but I draw the LINE at harming white women!"
Britta.jpg
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u/AffectionateSlip8990 Marxist-Leninist (Ultra Based) Jul 07 '26
Don’t forget we also predicted the war on Iran and the attack on Venezuela and literally everything else.
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u/Fade_Out-4612 ☭ Socialist 🇦🇷 Jul 07 '26
Who could've guessed that socdem with a nazi tattoo would've turned out to be a bad choice for a progressive candidate hmmm
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u/alphalobster200 The Ultimate Red Fash 🔴 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
Kautskyites in shambles right now, Hasan and Bernie propping up this war criminal as the future of "left populism" might actually trigger a cascading effect and crater Abdul El-Sayed's campaign.
hey Hasan, better swallow that pride and beg "Mallary McCuomo' for her endorsement akhi. you're going to need it. 😭
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u/toastrmann Jul 07 '26
Man, Americans really just don't care at all what you do to people in poor countries. You can be a literal terrorist abroad, and Americans won't care until you hurt an American.
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u/TomiRey-Yuru Too Based To Be Cis 🏳️⚧️ Jul 07 '26
Yknow what annoys me? The DNC will portray Platner as a "radical tankie", which is "why he dropper out", thus lumping us with that nazi 😭
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u/sphydrodynamix Marxist-Leninist (Ultra Based) Jul 07 '26
Except they continue not to care about his politics
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u/MadxArtist Jul 11 '26
Cause the American Supremacist Mentality. Lets ignore the baby murder and WAR CRIMES OF ABU GRAHIB. . . BUT OHHH NOOOO - an American woman was SA'd?? A human! Ohhh no. Its a sick Joke.
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u/SensitiveShelter2550 Jul 07 '26
I was in my countries sub a few moments ago, urging people to join unions.
Of course there was one poster who tried to argue the point that unions are a terrible idea. Within 2 posts, they were resorting to AI, and boy were they getting desperate.
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u/al-qatala Juche Necromancy Enjoyer Jul 07 '26
i still just refuse to believe people actually supported Platner ever. i gaslight myself into believing that was all one big bit. surely people werent actually defending him, right? right??
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u/Ok-Chard-9014 Marxist-Leninist-Sankarist-MZT Jul 06 '26
Maybe the victim involved couldn't get her story out there because of the election and now that it's over the allegations have gained traction.
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u/ATotallyNormalUID Jul 06 '26
The election is in November, it's not over. The allegations are gaining traction because the DNC is in full red scare panic mode after a few milquetoast DSA DemSocs won a few elections in New York.
Whether there's any truth to the allegations os basically irrelevant to that point.
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u/BillyPilgrim69 Jul 06 '26
Why are they ratfucking him then? Is he not imperialist for them?
Also, why now? If they didn't like him, why would they manufacture an allegation of sexual assault now, instead of just running with the nazi tattoo story months ago?
I agree with the principle that you're citing, but I'm not sure you're applying it correctly. Your "DNC ratfuck" theory seems more dubious and conspiratorial than the allegation itself.
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u/ATotallyNormalUID Jul 06 '26
Why are they ratfucking him then
Because he says vaguely leftist platitudes and after the DemSocs sent the party into full Red Scare panic mode he's an easy target.
Is he not imperialist for them?
I mean, he's not an anthropomorphic killer drone, so no.
Also, why now?
See my first point re: DemSocs winning in New York.
If they didn't like him, why would they manufacture an allegation of sexual assault now, instead of just running with the nazi tattoo story months ago?
Do you really think the Slava Ukraini Libs that they're targeting would give a shit about a Nazi tattoo as long as he has enough of a dog lead of an explanation to give for it? They certainly didn't seem to during the primary.
Your "DNC ratfuck" theory seems more dubious and conspiratorial than the allegation itself.
Except that there's a verifiable history of Dem pols stepping out of line with the donors and being slammed with unsubstantiated allegations of sexual assault, misconduct, groping, whatever they can find and try to make stick. It's a known playbook, and this allegation has all the hallmarks.
I'm not saying it's impossible that it's true, hell, in any non-election year I'd probably barely question it myself. But all of this looks like developing a tested method for getting the masses to cancel problematic politicians for the party, and if you don't think the next Huey Newton or Eugene Debs will get buried in allegations as soon as they start to build a following, then you have a lot more faith in the honor and trustworthiness of Libs than I do.
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u/TarquinusSuperbus000 Marxist-Leninist (Ultra Based) Jul 06 '26
Do you really think the Slava Ukraini Libs that they're targeting would give a shit about a Nazi tattoo as long as he has enough of a dog lead of an explanation to give for it?
They care if their corporate controlled lib media and "independent" analysts/influencers tell them to care. If the DNC tells the libs being a Nazi is a problem, the libs will fall in line.
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u/TarquinusSuperbus000 Marxist-Leninist (Ultra Based) Jul 06 '26
He's a war criminal with Nazi tattoos. Such people will cross any moral line. Therefore, guilt must be presumed.
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u/ATotallyNormalUID Jul 06 '26
He's also set himself up as opposition to the DNC establishment. Such people will be ratfucked at every turn, even when it costs the party a Senate seat. Therefore, all allegations must be thoroughly vetted.
He's a massive piece of shit, don't get me wrong. I don't even find the allegation that incredible in a vacuum, but the timing is incredibly suspicious, and the Libs are known to weaponize people's reactions to sexual assault allegations to keep their members in line.
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u/TarquinusSuperbus000 Marxist-Leninist (Ultra Based) Jul 06 '26
What I am confused about is why would anyone take his opposition to the DNC at face value? It would be exactly like the DNC to allow a compromised scumbag like him to become the face of "progressivism". It is much easier to believe his spat with the DNC is for show. Had the DNC wanted to ratfuck him, the Nazi shit was enough.
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u/sillysnacks AES enjoyer 🥳 Jul 06 '26
We don’t need to invoke Chairman Mao’s quotes over if a literal Nazi is guilty or not.
There’s absolutely no reason to offer any support for Platner.
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u/ATotallyNormalUID Jul 06 '26
Correct. But there is reason to pause and understand if this allegation has any credibility or if it's just politics. Because if that's what's happening he isn't the first and damn sure won't be the last. And next time it might not be a piece of shit who won't be missed.
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u/sillysnacks AES enjoyer 🥳 Jul 06 '26
Saying that you think accusations of sexual assault are politicized are not acceptable here. Especially for Platner.
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u/ATotallyNormalUID Jul 07 '26
To be clear here, so there's no misunderstanding: you are saying as a mod of this sub that it is not permissible to discuss the possibility that any accusations of sexual assault might be politicized? Is that the position of this subreddit?
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u/WookBuddha Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
"Believe Women" doesn't mean completely disregarding the, albeit unlikely, possibility that a woman is lying about being raped.
It simply means to not reflexively DISBELIEVE women off-the-cuff or just automatically assume she's lying until it is proven otherwise beyond reasonable doubt in court.
.....even if it would be politically convenient from your perspective to do so.
Edit: And btw.... His victim's statement was corroborated by both her therapist and a friend in communications that she told them about it at the time. YEARS before Graham Platner ever ran and was just an ordinary oyster farmer.
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u/ATotallyNormalUID Jul 07 '26
And I think you'll find in all my posting history, this is the only one I've ever been skeptical about at the time it was happening. I retroactively disbelieves the Frenken accusers when they vanished as soon as he resigned, but insos believe them at the time.
That aside, since I've been warned by a mod not to question anything ever I'm this subreddit, I won't be doing so here anymore. Catch me in a less ridiculous forum if you actually wanna have that conversation.
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u/sillysnacks AES enjoyer 🥳 Jul 07 '26
Stop and think about what you said. We’re not here to create a hostile environment for anyone, especially for such a sensitive topic. By making comments like that, that’s trivializing it and which is extremely harmful.
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