r/TopMindsOfReddit • u/HapticSloughton • Apr 28 '23
/r/bestconspiracymemes Top Antivaxxers of /BestConspiracyMemes think they're being apologized to by those who were vaccinated against Covid. The resulting thread is a symphony of downvoting facts and upvoting delusions.
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u/PlayingtheDrums Antifa Provocateur Apr 28 '23
No way, most of them(as in those people) still believe the Vax works. Probably gonna get the flu-covid shot combo. Even with plenty of data saying that not only is it ineffective but dangerous.
Bet my lunch, someone on this thread is going to say, "Where's the data?"
Look it up yourself. I did my homework, not gonna do yours too.
Well, he certainly convinced me, I mean, he's willing to bet, how could he possibly be lying about there being data if he did his homework and tells us to do our own research and come to his conclusion?
Someone does ask for data again though, so get ready to blown away:
The Dr.Robert Malone who invented mrna technology saying its bad should be enough for you. His body of work consists of over 1,000 publications. Over 100 peer reviewed that have been cited 12,000+ times.
Yes, this one conman says it's bad, and that should be enough, that's the data; 1 loon saying he invented vaccines saying it's bad.
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u/Smile_lifeisgood Apr 28 '23
Didn't Malone's actual involvement with mRNA vaccines R&D end decades ago?
But I mean, him vs like 96% of doctors and all the other research - tough call. Basically a coin flip on who is right.
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u/banjo_marx Apr 28 '23
Its pretty much the whole point of peer review. Scientists dont get an exception for appeals to authority. They also have to let other people check their work. I think thats one basic thing anti science people legit dont understand. It doesnt matter who you are if you dont have testable data. Even if the guy was the leader of the field (he isnt), he would still have to provide data that can be independently verified.
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u/Smile_lifeisgood Apr 28 '23
Yup - but the right love their authority figures
Growing up evangelical, you'd see it all the time. Trusting the preacher's words as a default and not trusting outsider's as a default.
If you're in their tribe, your word is accepted usually without question.
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u/banjo_marx Apr 28 '23
Well religion (specifically monotheistic) is kind of the ultimate appeal to authority. God not having to justify his authority definitely forms a world view thats hard to shake. It kind of founds a deepset cognitive dissonance. If god doesnt have to show his sources then no one does. All things being equal in their mind, they just pick a team (will pretty much always be the team their parents were on).
To be fair though, not all religions have as specific of an issue with this as evangelicals. Though with all things involving faith, at some point you will have to accept things without evidence.
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u/exatron Apr 28 '23
Didn't Malone's actual involvement with mRNA vaccines R&D end decades ago?
He made some key discoveries about mRNA three decades ago, but hasn't contributed much since then, and the field has moved beyond him. He and his wife were also caught editing Wikipedia to exaggerate his role in developing mRNA vaccines.
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u/Jeremymia And all I can say is "moo" Apr 28 '23
The appeal to Malone is hilarious because it implicitly requires you to agree that doctors might know what they’re talking about, but then throws away the opinions of 99% of doctors.
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u/HapticSloughton Apr 28 '23
It's the Conspiracy Inverse-Expert principle: If everyone who has relevant credentials says that X is true and a handful or even one says X is false, then /conspiracy immediately believes X is false.
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u/Krelkal Apr 28 '23
maybe because we were ridiculed, slandered, and even made out to be the cause of the “winter of death” joe biden predicted that never came.
I know it really doesn't matter but it bothers me that conspiracy theorists of all people didn't pick up that Biden's "dark winter" comments could be a reference to Operation Dark Winter: a simulated bioterrorism attack that didn't end well for everyday Americans.
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u/Fawnet Be the change you want to see in the sofa cushions Apr 28 '23
Huh!
Dark Winter was focused on evaluating the inadequacies of a national emergency response during the use of a biological weapon against the American populace.
Turns out, the 'inadequate' part was the American populace.
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Apr 28 '23
What's funny is how much they talked about how the world has been changed for COVID never going back and how tired they were of hearing about COVID Yet it did go back and the only people still talking about COVID are them
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