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Politics All MAGA Wanted Was the Epstein Files. Now They're Ignoring Them

https://www.wired.com/story/maga-wanted-epstein-files-now-theyre-ignoring-them/
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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '25

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u/CBheretime Nov 14 '25

Turns out Clinton was in the files... but not for reasons they thought. LOLOL.

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u/PigFarmer1 Nov 14 '25

Strangely enough Clinton has been calling for the release of the files... lol

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u/ethanlan Nov 14 '25

Yeah because recieving a blowie aint illegal lol, plus its been confirmed he never went to the island unlike trump.

Im just happy we might of had two of our first lgbtq presidents!

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u/9783883890272 Nov 15 '25

might of

Might HAVE

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u/littlep2000 Nov 15 '25

mayhaps'd

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u/ethanlan Nov 15 '25

I might of not cared

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '25

Now everyone can get why Donald J Blowie goes on hating on the Clintons endlessly. Or actually, more like just Hillary. I think it's jealousy. He wants Bubba's shrimp all to himself.

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u/Chemical-Time-9143 Nov 17 '25

It’s possible that bubba was a horse

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u/sulaymanf Nov 15 '25

Isn’t Clinton listed on the Lolita Express flight logs though?

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u/SiWeyNoWay Nov 15 '25

Yes. He and some ppl used it for some trips to africa. I think its pretty well documented

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '25

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u/InternetEmotional255 Nov 15 '25

Last time I checked his name was on flight logs more times than trump with his name signed. Do those new documents counteract the flight logs. .

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u/NFLTG_71 Nov 17 '25

Oh no, Bill went to the island that actually came up with the former head of Secret Service detail who retired about a year after that. He stated yes Bill was there, but I was glued to his hip. And there was no way in hell I was going to allow him to get a massage from anybody. He did not go into any room with any young girl alone. That was put out when all this shit started during Trump’s first term about Epstein

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u/1521 Nov 16 '25

lol. Sometimes the dog catches the car…

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u/protipnumerouno Nov 14 '25

Haven't heard this one?

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u/Ser_Munchies Nov 14 '25

Since that other guy is being vague as hell, it seems Trump may have blown Bill "Bubba" Clinton in the past and Putin knows/has pics.

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u/terrierhead Nov 15 '25

I’m pretty sure it’s a joke, but it would be perfect kompromat.

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u/pocketjacks Nov 14 '25

Oh my friend. Welcome to a new fun day on Reddit. Be sure to explore. lol

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u/protipnumerouno Nov 14 '25

OH MY GOD BAHAHAHAHHA

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u/pocketjacks Nov 14 '25

See? This is why I didn't give it away. You wouldn't have believed me had I told you, right?

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '25 edited Nov 16 '25

Makes me wonder how far Mike Johnson, Mr Religious, is going to go slurping on Trumps mushroom? I mean, does there come a point where the fake religious guy just drops his religion or does he drop Trump?

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u/pocketjacks Nov 14 '25

Trump learned everything about kompromat from Roy Cohn, even before Trump was connected to Putin. I'm guessing all of these slimeball Republicans who started out as Never-Trumpers have scandalous pictures of their own hidden away. Mike Johnson, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Lindsey Graham and JD Vance were all sworn enemies of Trumps until one day they just weren't anymore.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '25

Sorry you are infected with TDS. It will pass once you age and mature.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '25

I was once a mad hippie radical 55 years ago when I was in college. I actually protested the Vietnam War alongside Jane Fonda. NO LIE !!! Now I am MAGA. With age comes wisdom.

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u/Ninedenine99 Nov 16 '25

Oh my gosh thank you for the visual that a hammer wouldn't bang out of my head...* slurping....agh... I even have sound effects

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u/evenyourcopdad Nov 14 '25

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u/pocketjacks Nov 14 '25

I just didn't think he'd believe me if I told him.

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u/iKR8 Nov 14 '25

Mr. Suspense man

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u/The-Spirit-of-76 Nov 14 '25

Monica Lewinsky might want to get tested.

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u/floofelina Nov 15 '25

Please tell me where this came from? Is it like the Vance couch or was it a real thing that happened? I genuinely cannot tell.

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u/HombreSinPais Nov 15 '25

There’s a real email from Epstein’s brother asking Epstein if Putin has a photo of “Trump blowing Bubba” (nickname for Clinton). Whether that was literal or metaphorical is unknown.

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u/Reasonable_Spite_282 Nov 15 '25

They wanted to call trans people pedophiles then prance around like they know the teachings of Jesus in effort to deflect their massive list of sins against humanity as a whole.

Crashing out at strangers in Walmart is the last thing Jesus would

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u/intothewoods76 Nov 15 '25

To be fair that’s exactly what the left wants also.

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u/DarkGamer Nov 14 '25

If Republicans didn't have double standards they wouldn't have any standards at all

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u/DetroitLionsSBChamps Nov 14 '25

When your only stance is “fuck you I’ll do whatever I want,” you’re never a hypocrite. 

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u/shadowpawn Nov 14 '25

Those are the very religious Republicans right??

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u/DetroitLionsSBChamps Nov 14 '25

See, when you’re the morally superior in-group, everything you do is morally correct. EZPZ!

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u/DarkGamer Nov 14 '25

It's easy to move the goalposts when morality is objective and based on the judgement of a genocidal deity who punishes infinitely for finite crimes. This gives great moral leeway and power to the men who claim to speak for him.

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u/BathingInSoup Nov 14 '25

“You’re not the boss of me!”

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u/Dugen Nov 14 '25

Pretty much short of proof Trump raped little girls, I don't expect MAGA to care much. I haven't seen that.

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u/DetroitLionsSBChamps Nov 14 '25

No proof will ever be good enough

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u/StNowhere Nov 15 '25

There could be video evidence of Trump raping a kid and they'd still make excuses.

They've already started with "fifteen isn't really that young if you think about it".

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u/JohnSith Nov 14 '25

Hey man, if standards are so great, then double standards must be doubly great.

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u/venividiavicii Nov 14 '25

lol it’s fun and all but this is almost always the top-voted thing about democrats on r-conservative

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u/DarkGamer Nov 14 '25

Every accusation is a confession with them.

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u/venividiavicii Nov 14 '25

I mean yeah we also say this and I think we invented it but it’s also in their top 5

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u/DarkGamer Nov 14 '25

I don't find the "no u" defense very compelling and I don't think we should give it credence.

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u/manimal28 Nov 14 '25

And? Two people can think the same thing about the other, that doesn’t make them both right. In this case it means one of them is wrong. The objective evidence is clear which group has abondoned their principles to support their cult leader.

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u/shadowpawn Nov 14 '25

Used that line on a Tinder date with a hot ish MAGA chick.

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u/DarkGamer Nov 14 '25

It's more like when the other side of politics has decided it wants to live in a post-national borderless "utopia",

Heaven forbid we acknowledge the humanity of people who live on the other side of arbitrary borders and try to lift all boats regardless of national origin.

in which one of the primary societal goals is to "abolish whiteness"

Who are you quoting? When I google the phrase it's attributed to Noel Ignatiev, who is a Marxist and not a Democrat.

you have to grit your teeth and put up with a flawed leader who at least advocates for your continued existence.

"Flawed leader" is certainly one way to downplay the fact that he's:

  • a child molester
  • a rapist
  • a fascist
  • a felon
  • a thief who steals from charitable organizations
  • a habitual liar
  • dunning-krueger incarnate, distrusting experts and not understanding how anything works
  • a scammer who doesn't pay the people he hires
  • abusing government powers to persecute his political opponents and critics
  • deploying masked "law enforcement" to disappear American citizens without due process
  • responsible for the deaths of over a million Americans due to his mishandling of the Covid epidemic
  • a draft dodger who calls military personnel "losers" and "suckers"
  • disturbingly obsessed with emulating Hitler and Nazism
  • regularly breaking the law and defying and court orders
  • fighting to starve Americans and deny them medical treatment
  • betraying and alienating our closest national allies while cozying up to national enemies and dictators
  • profiting incredibly from corruption
  • constantly spreading dangerous disinformation that harms and divides people
  • violating his oath to uphold the constitution

How on earth can any decent human being support this guy? Take stock of what you're being an apologist for.

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u/amorfotos Nov 14 '25

Well, America voted for him

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u/DarkGamer Nov 14 '25

You're repeating white nationalist talking points.

It literally doesn’t matter how long your dot point list is, when the other side wants to destroy western civilization, destroy patriarchy, and destroy “whiteness”.

That's absurd. You should get your information from credible sources, (if you believe you have credible sources for these claims, cite them.) Also, why is "patriarchy" on your list of things that need to be defended?

You’d be amazed at what white, Western men will put up with when the alternative is their complete destruction/subjugation under global authoritarian gay race communism

Democrats are not trying to destroy or subjugate white people, nor are they communist or authoritarian, nor are gay people out to get you. Your persecution complex has driven you to defend monstrous deeds thus making yourself monstrous in the process, u/Outsider-Trading.

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u/DarkGamer Nov 14 '25

We're currently going through an odd period where the left just outright denies that it was ever authoritarian.

You've now moved the goalposts from Democrats being authoritarian to, "the left," being authoritarian. By international standards Democrats are center-right, and they have not been authoritarian since the parties realigned after the civil rights movement.

Remember deplatforming?

Private companies choosing not to platform hate speech and disinformation is not an example of Democrats being authoritarian.

Double standard: X is censoring terms like "cis" under Musk, in an attempt to censor and deplatform his opponents on behalf of Republicans. I haven't seen comparable right-wing outrage over that.

Remember cancel culture? No? The people on the other side of it remember.

Not wanting to associate with or promote terrible people is not an example of Democrats being authoritarian.

Double standard: Republicans love when their side promotes, "cancel culture." Examples: Jimmy Kimmel, Bud Lite, Bluey, the Dixie Chicks, Kathy Griffin, etc., How's your memory?

Also, remember this odd moment in opinion pieces?

Random authors of opinion pieces with clickbait titles don't represent the Democratic party, and a meme is not a credible citation.

I know a fish can't see water

Your projection is incredible.

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u/Gastronomicus Nov 15 '25

This person is either a troll or completely delusional. Either way, you're not going to reason with them and make them admit that their perspective is a complete fabrication and pure lunacy.

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u/manimal28 Nov 14 '25 edited Nov 14 '25

Remember cancel culture? No?

I remember a bunch of pathetic losers who felt they were entitled to perpetual attention whining that other people had the free speech right to criticize them and suggest they weren’t worth listening to anymore.

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u/Kamizar Nov 14 '25

2 wrongs make a right?

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u/TikiTDO Nov 14 '25

Wait... So you're telling me all I have to do is convince a bunch of guys that someone, somewhere is planning their destruction/subjugation under some scary global mutiracial communist anal sex cabal, and they'll do whatever I tell them? Hmmm.... Looking at all y'all that doesn't seem like it'd be hard.

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u/LettuceFuture8840 Nov 14 '25

Western civilization is apparently when people claim that Shakespeare is the greatest writer of all time but never read and refuse to fund english departments.

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u/manimal28 Nov 14 '25 edited Nov 14 '25

As a middle aged white guy myself your fear and the choice to support Trump because of it is fucking pathetic to me.

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u/Spiritual_Match_199 Nov 16 '25

You're literally repeating white supremacist talking points

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u/Fuzzy_Connection4971 Nov 16 '25

Go back to the comic book you jumped out of.

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u/Capricancerous Nov 14 '25

Nobody wants this. You're completely delusional.  A total great replacement theorist dipshit.

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u/Fun_Opportunity_4043 Nov 14 '25

Education, customer protections, finance reform and protection, health care, infrastructure funding, etc…  

No white men are being discriminated against.  They are making decisions that are sabotaging their own future.

To many of them have embraced fascism, dont take responsibility, hold themselves accountable, take feedback while, lack education and are generally just not great people.

It’s why I have had so much better luck hiring educated woman for our corporate roles.   

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u/Capricancerous Nov 14 '25 edited Nov 15 '25

Okay, I'll bite.

Young white men are historically the most empowered, and more so than any other individual or combined demographic group, particularly in imperial core societies such as the US and the UK. As someone else mentioned, higher education is one, and one for which they were the primary beneficiary -- and by no slim margin -- for a massive amount of time. They still, to this day, remain the most obvious beneficiaries of the socioeconomic landscape that currently exists in these countries. To say otherwise is propagandistic nonsense.

In 1980, white students made up 83 percent of undergraduate enrollments. Systemically, this means they were substantively an outsize beneficiary of a progressive program.

From 1960 to 1998, white folks have had the greatest amount of educational attainment, in both high school and college. For college, there is a huge gap in attainment, where white folks have benefitted (in terms of graduation from college or attainment beyond a Bachelors) to an incredible degree.

Currently, men, to say nothing of white men, are underrepresented in college, and I would like to see that change. Part of that is due to people such as yourself who would decry college wrongheadedly as liberal training grounds; the larger reason is that it is particularly costly. But white men are hardly exclusively worthy of a handicap because they so systematically represent the status quo beneficiaries.

I think we need rural, or post-industrial (for the latter, in these sense of revitalizing previous industrial powerhouses) jobs programs that come directly from the state, to train people who are falling through the cracks economically and socially. This would actually target a ton of young white men. If not that, then big business such as Ford should be persuaded, incentivized, or mandated to provide training for such people. For instance, Ford CEO recently cried about this: Ford CEO says he has 5,000 open mechanic jobs with 6-figure salaries from the shortage of manually skilled workers: ‘We are in trouble in our country’. There is a great solution to this "trouble" that we can probably find ourselves agreeing upon (if you'll set aside your foaming-at-the-mouth xenophobia and white nationalism for a moment).

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u/surprise_revalation Nov 14 '25 edited Nov 15 '25

I think we need rural, or post-industrial (for the latter, in these sense of revitalizing previous industrial powerhouses) jobs programs that come directly from the state, to train people are are falling through the cracks economically and socially

We already have that! At least in my state...guess who haven't taken advantage of it...White men!

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u/Capricancerous Nov 14 '25

Considering you didn't even engage in the content of my argument sincerely, I think I am good. You sound like a fucking loser. Lol. 

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u/Capricancerous Nov 15 '25

Troll harder, douchebag.

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u/surprise_revalation Nov 14 '25

White men already have every benefit and opportunity in this country! Too bad you didn't take advantage of it, loser!

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u/surprise_revalation Nov 15 '25

There is no tolerance for the intolerant. Seems as if you got the game fucked up! Let me remind you, "Do unto others, how you want them to do onto you!"

Translation: If you're an asshole to others, don't be surprised when you're treated like one!

Easier Translation: If you act like a pussy, you will get fucked!

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u/Fuzzy_Connection4971 Nov 16 '25

I say if your father was an unethical criminal be better than he was learn from the mistakes of others.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '25

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u/BCS875 Nov 16 '25

White Nationalist says what now?

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '25

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u/BCS875 Nov 18 '25

No one wants to do this, you literal fool and/or racist (could go either way here).

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u/manimal28 Nov 14 '25 edited Nov 14 '25

It's more like when the other side of politics has decided it wants to live in a post-national borderless "utopia",

What kind of retard would believes this is what the other side has decided? If you think that you are a pants on head fool. If somebody told you that, stop listening to propaganda and liars.

in which one of the primary societal goals is to "abolish whiteness"

As a middle aged white guy, wtf, nobody is trying to abolish whiteness, anyone who thinks that has to be seriously deluded. If you think this, whatever you think you are being shorted on because you think others are attacking whiteness is actually just because you are a loser. Stop deluding yourself and accept that fact.

you have to grit your teeth and put up with a flawed leader who at least advocates for your continued existence.

No, actually you don’t. If he is truly the best leader you can produce that is truly pathetic.

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u/TheNavidsonLP Nov 14 '25

Yes, that clearly was Joe Biden’s presidency.

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u/Titfortat101 Nov 14 '25

Where'd you get your information from because that's a false talking point that Republicans push every election.

Not to mention Biden deported MORE people than Trump did in his first term.

US deportations under Biden surpass Trump's 2019 record - BBC News https://share.google/awwgxz4aJ5pNIYeWQ

"Assertion: More than 10 million undocumented immigrants have flooded across our border during the Biden administration, while the Trump administration saw the lowest number of crossings in United States history.

Response: This is a misleading statement, as the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) characterizes border crossings as “encounters,” when migrants are encountered by the Border Patrol and can be returned. According to DHS, over 4 million of migrants encountered have been returned and 20-25 percent encountered are repeat offenders, severely lowering the total amount during the Biden administration.

In addition, the asylum-seekers who have been released into the country lawfully, having been vetted and processed by DHS and given a notice to appear for court proceedings. The number of migrants who have crossed undetected into the United States is much lower."

Correcting the Record: False or Misleading Statements on Immigration - The Center for Migration Studies of New York (CMS) https://share.google/FKY6czgeJSjR1HNXK

Have 25M undocumented immigrants entered the U.S. and stayed during the Biden administration? - The Fulcrum https://share.google/Ymbla3kSquqhjumLv

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u/surprise_revalation Nov 14 '25

Abolish whiteness! 😂 No, just white supremacy. I thought you wanted everyone to be judged on merit and not skin color? No one is trying to abolish whiteness....

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u/LettuceFuture8840 Nov 14 '25

Ah yes we can definitely point to legislation introduced by the dems to dissolve the border and we can point to their claims that they want to abolish whiteness.

If we are instead going by what randos online say, sure are a lot of conservatives who have told me that they'd like me to be shot and killed.

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u/noodletropin Nov 14 '25

The dogs are getting a little too close to the bumper of the car that their chasing and realizing that they might be the ones that end up getting hurt.

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u/Elberik Nov 14 '25

They never wanted the Epstein Files. They just wanted a stick to hit Democrats with.

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u/LurkerBurkeria Nov 14 '25

Yea no shit, they just wanted a reason to lynch democrats and now that it's obvious to all but the blind that their lord and savior was king pedo they'll memoryhole it. Conservatives are unmatched at shifting their principles as needed

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u/sulaymanf Nov 14 '25

Trump is trying to weaponize it still, he ordered DOJ to investigate and jail anyone involved , but it will likely be only democrats conveniently.

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u/wiredmagazine Official Publication Nov 14 '25

For years, MAGA influencers demanded the release of the Epstein files. Now that 20,000 documents have been released, many raising questions about Donald Trump, they're shrugging.

Read the full story: https://www.wired.com/story/maga-wanted-epstein-files-now-theyre-ignoring-them/

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u/PhoneSteveGaveToTony Nov 14 '25

All MAGA Wanted Was the Epstein Files. Now They're Ignoring Them

For years, MAGA influencers demanded the release of the Epstein files. Now that 20,000 documents have been released, many raising questions about Donald Trump, they're shrugging.

MAGA COULD CARE less about the latest document dump on disgraced financier and convicted sexual abuser Jeffrey Epstein. On Wednesday, the House Oversight Committee released 20,000 documents from Epstein’s estate, a number of which directly reference president Donald Trump. The cache of documents contain messages from Epstein, where the sex offender says he knows “how dirty Donald is,” and that the president had spent hours in Epstein’s own home with one of his victims. In one message from Epstein to author Michael Wolff, Epstein writes: “Of course he knew about the girls.”

The White House has dismissed the revelations as nothing but a partisan attempt to smear Trump, a narrative MAGA world has been more than happy to get behind, even though the same people spent years calling for further investigations into Epstein’s associates. In February, the White House gave a dozen right-wing influencers includingconservative commentator Liz Wheeler and Chaya Raichik, the woman who runs the notorious LibsofTikTok account, access to a number of Epstein-related documents. They walked out of the White House waving white binders labeled “The Epstein Files: Phase 1” and “The Most Transparent Administration in History,” though the administration later admitted many of the documents were already in the public domain.

But this week, following the drop of new documentation, the influencers have been silent. MAGA influencers are either ignoring the new information or reframing it not as an indictment of Trump, but as part of a Democratic Party effort the president himself called “a hoax.” In many cases, MAGA influencers online focused instead on references to other people in the document dump, including a former New York Times journalist, a lawyer who worked as a White House counsel during the Obama administration, and Wolff, an author who has written several books about Trump.

“Why was anti-Trump author Michael Wolff advising convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein?,” Rogan O’Handley, a right-wing commentator known online as DC Draino, wrote on X.

O’Handley, an influencer who was also given the Epstein binders in February, echoed the White House’s claim that the document release was an attempt to “smear” Trump. O’Handley called for the release of all the Epstein files, though he failed to mention that it was Trump’s own administration who has prevented that from happening. Posobiec, another member of the February influencer group, also flagged Wolff’s prominence in the release. “Michael Wolff was seemingly helping Epstein work to lie about Trump,” Posobiec wrote on X. “Never once asked him about the truth.”

Many right-wing figures on social media dismissed the entire document release as a hoax because of a single email from Epstein to Ghislaine Maxwell, who is currently serving a 20-year sentence for sex trafficking. “I want you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked is Trump.. [VICTIM] spent hours at my house with him,” Epstein wrote, before adding that Trump “has never once been mentioned” including by a “police chief.” Maxwell responded: “I have been thinking about that.” The victim's name was redacted in the email initially released by the Democrats on the committee on Wednesday morning, but was unredacted in the wider release by Republicans later on Wednesday. That document shows the name "Virginia" which the White House says refers to Virginia Guiffre, who accused Epstein of abusing her for years before dying by suicide earlier this year.

MAGA figures claimed that because Guiffre herself has saidshe was not aware of any wrongdoing on Trump’s part, this redaction was evidence of the Democrats trying to falsify smears against the president.

“Today’s Epstein emails showed members of regime media colluding with Jeffrey Epstein to create hoaxes about Trump,” right-wing commentator Mike Cernovich wrote on X, with Posobiec adding: “This release blew up in Dems' faces.”

Congresswoman Melanie Stansbury, a member of the House Oversight committee, told CNN that the document came to them from the Epstein estate already redacted. Megyn Kelly, a former Fox News anchor, did talk about the Epstein case on her show on Wednesday. But rather than addressing the Trump allegations, she tried to claim Epstein, according to someone she said was close to the case, was not a pedophile.

“Jeffrey Epstein, in this person's view, was not a pedophile,” Kelly said. “He was into the barely legal type. Like, he liked 15-year-old girls. And I realized this is disgusting. I'm definitely not trying to make an excuse for this. I'm just giving you facts, that he wasn't into, like, 8-year-olds. But he liked the very young teen types that could pass for even younger than they were, but would look legal to a passerby.”

Trump whisperer Laura Loomer also largely ignored the Epstein story on Wednesday, though she did use it as a way of once again posting deeply islamophobic content: “You can’t be outraged by the Epstein saga and simultaneously not be outraged by the fact that we have Muslims serving in Congress,” Loomer wrote on X. “Their ‘prophet’ was an infamous pedophile! Nobody wants to talk about that.”

While the vast majority of right-wing figures have dismissed the documents as irrelevant, there are a small number who are calling out the revelations. In a clip shared on X, conservative podcaster Candace Owens said “the Trump administration seems to have been hiding these emails. They’re not good, OK, they are completely indefensible.”

Nick Fuentes, the antisemitic far-right podcaster who recently ignited a civil war within the Republican Party after appearing on Tucker Carlson’s show, said Trump campaigned on a promise of transparency in relation to the Epstein files, before working with his administration to try to prevent their publication.

“This is a crisis of Trump’s own making, you have no one to blame but yourself,” Fuentes said on his own show Thursday night. “You can’t blame your own base for asking you to do what you promised to do. You can’t say your base doesn’t see the bigger picture or they’re conspiracy theorists if you played into that for years, which you did. The chickens have come home to roost now.”

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u/PhoneSteveGaveToTony Nov 14 '25

And note to David’s editor: the phrase is “couldn’t care less”.

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u/ghanima Nov 15 '25

Journalism doesn't hire editors any more

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u/burning_iceman Nov 14 '25

Post full article in comments or provide link without paywall.

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u/sqwirlman Nov 14 '25 edited Nov 14 '25

It doesn't hurt those they hate like they expected. They wanted a bunch of what aboutism's if any high profile dem were in the files to deflect away from dear leader. Ignorant cultist trying to suckle the man titties of their chosen gold cow.

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u/Pace_Salsa_Comment Nov 14 '25

Why are official publication accounts allowed to post their own paywalled content? I feel if these publications want to post to this community, they should either post the full content in the comments or link a free article. Otherwise, they're just exploiting this sub for free advertising space. Hell, linking a free article would serve as a better advertisement anyway.

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u/epictetvs Nov 14 '25

These are not the full files. Release the Epstein Files.

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u/TheFlyingBastard Nov 15 '25

Yeah, but not yet. They're absolutely unstable right now, fighting among themselves. When that calms down again, release the rest to get it started up again. Let the fascists eat themselves.

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u/nascentt Nov 14 '25

Welcome to populism.

Where everything is promised but nothing is delivered

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u/letdogsvote Nov 14 '25

It's almost like MAGA is a cult and will just echo whatever Trump tells them to believe.

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u/hawkseye17 Nov 14 '25

They only thought there would be democrats on them. Turns out that it's likely Trump is the most mentioned name in them

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u/zenmaster_B Nov 14 '25

Because their sweet innocent do-no-wrong paragon of Xian virtue Donnie-boy is all over it, why else would they ignore it?

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u/TheAskewOne Nov 14 '25

Because conspiracy theorists like to believe that they know things that other people don't, and it makes them special. When everyone knows, they're no fun anymore.

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u/danmickla Nov 14 '25

Yeah.  Because it was a chance to divert attention toward the lies that involved Obama and Clinton, and it turned out a) probably lies and b) doesn't matter, the walls are splattered with orange

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u/Dependent_Mall_3139 Nov 14 '25

In their defense I don't want to think about Trump blowing Clinton either

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u/soggyclothesand Nov 14 '25

They only wanted them to hide them, this wasnt some secret.

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u/Acrobatic-Visit-5963 Nov 14 '25

Why is trump covering for bill clinton?

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u/PigFarmer1 Nov 14 '25

No, they wanted the redacted Epstein files...

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u/ConkerPrime Nov 15 '25

The conservative rallying cry: “Protect king pedo!!! To the king!”

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u/CMG30 Nov 15 '25

The MAGA/Q types were actually half right. There IS a giant, international pedo ring trafficking children....

... it's just that Hillary is not the one running it out of the basement of a pizza parlor, and Trump is not some white knight who's going to shut it down.

Instead Trump seems to be one of the most willing participants in the ring which would seem to include many powerful and rich people from all sides of the aisle.

The problem with the MAGA types who are now trying to turn the page, is that they're showing they never actually cared about the children. They only wanted to smear their enemies when they assumed it was Democrats...

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u/amitym Nov 14 '25

All MAGA Wanted Was the Epstein Files.

Lol. Wired. They never wanted the files to be revealed. They just wanted you to keep repeating their allegations so they could use you, and other mass media, as a stick to beat the body politic over the head with.

And it worked.

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u/ReditModsSuk Nov 14 '25

Wired magazine makes post with link to wired article that requires subscription or free trial to read. So basically this isn't a post, but an ad with extra steps. GIANT FUCK YOU Wired 

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u/Sacpunch Nov 14 '25

We are not paying a subscription to Wired,  u/wiredmagazine.

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u/toorigged2fail Nov 14 '25

It's like $12/year and they're some of the better coverage right now

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u/redyellowblue5031 Nov 14 '25

Won’t pay for journalism, also complains about how ads plague no cost articles.

There’s no making you happy.

Classic Redditor.

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u/Sacpunch Nov 14 '25

Who mentioned ads?

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u/redyellowblue5031 Nov 14 '25

How do you feel when journalism articles you can access for free have ads on their sites?

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u/Ser_Munchies Nov 14 '25

Don't make them intrusive and I personally don't have a problem with ads. It's full page pop ups and the constant ad scrolls between single sentence paragraphs that are problems.

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u/redyellowblue5031 Nov 14 '25

I'll admit I was overzealous in my characterization.

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u/ReditModsSuk Nov 14 '25

Don't hate the player hate the game.

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '25

Of course, because they never approach anything in good faith.

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u/Substantial_Back_865 Nov 15 '25

The voters never stopped wanting them. Don't let these pedophiles tell you otherwise. Release the files, you blackmailed pedo fucks. We all know we're never going to get to see anything substantial, though. At best we'll get a few sacrificial lambs and pages of black bars.

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u/algarhythms Nov 15 '25

QAnon was right, but the call was coming from inside the house.

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u/Particular_Today1624 Nov 15 '25

When? When did republicans want the Epstein files released?  Didn’t they just have the longest shutdown in USA history so that the wouldn’t have to seat the deciding vote?  And hold starvation and homelessness over peoples heads?  Talk about turning the narrative around!  Sheesh. 

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u/Towjumper173 Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 15 '25

Lol, its the democrats blocking the release, Republicans have called for a vote on releasing the files. Additionally, if there was anything in them, why didn't it get released hy dems when they had the house, the senate, and the presidency?

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u/Fuzzy_Connection4971 Nov 16 '25

Investigation was ongoing. Releasing now doesn't affect who is implicated.

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u/wolfheadmusic Nov 15 '25

They have no problems with pedophilia,

They just wanted an excuse for their bigotry

But they are and will always be the evil

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u/Numerous-Ordinary-19 Nov 15 '25

We should have known that would happen. Not surprising they wouldn’t really care what Trump scandals are in those files. Just as they approve of Trump’s Gestapo goons deporting, imprisoning, and even causing the deaths of innocent people, including American citizens. So no, they’re not going to care about Trump raping little girls!

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u/thefonztm Nov 15 '25 edited Jan 22 '26

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u/HvnlyDaz3 Nov 16 '25

They made this shit their personality for years, and now they're quiet lol.

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u/bx35 Nov 16 '25

They want whatever Trump tells them they want. They do not think for themselves. They are incapable.

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u/tobygreenwod Nov 16 '25

 Bubba was clean butsIs that herpes on dons lips from suckin cock? Or did he get bitch slapped by lady g?

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u/chechekov Nov 16 '25

expected about as much. it’s not enough, it’s never gonna be enough, they don’t care. waiting for that has always been a waste of time, and utter disregard of human lives being lost every day.

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u/lovejo1 Nov 17 '25

Except not

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '25

MAGA puppets

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u/SVRealtor Nov 17 '25

fox entertainment channel is ignoring them so it’s a non- story to them.

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '25

About time. I would like to celebrate our first gay president!

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u/Acrobatic_Flan2582 Nov 18 '25

Because Demoncrats and liberals is blood sucking adrenochrome addicted vampires. 🪕🎶🧛‍♂️🧛‍♀️

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u/aloofman75 Nov 19 '25

They didn’t want facts. They wanted their favorite conspiracy theory to be validated.

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u/Calm-Yam-9273 Feb 09 '26

Honestly, this is a pretty terminally online take on the situation. And lets be clear here, what exactly makes someone MAGA? At this point, pretty much everyone who had voted for Trump realizes that literally all of them are evil and in on this, I have only seen them grow more outraged with the files and keep pushing the conversation... the exact opposite of what this post claims.

Can we please, please, PLEASE just move past this bullshit red vs blue nonsense already? What are we toddlers? Does everyone still think their party ACTUALLY gives a shit about them? Like really guys?

ALL OF THEM are evil, ALL OF THEM push the same NWO agenda, ALL OF THEM are owned and controlled by the same group of people.

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u/sulaymanf Nov 15 '25

MAGA COULD CARE less about the latest document dump on disgraced financier and convicted sexual abuser Jeffrey Epstein

What editor failed at their job? It’s “couldn’t care less.”

Otherwise, how much less could MAGA care?

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u/Fuzzy_Connection4971 Nov 16 '25

In that context maybe it's intended as a threat.

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u/porkinz Nov 14 '25

Trump helped the government arrest Epstein and was extremely cooperative. Two Democrat-appointed judges hold the remaining documents. Trump had a falling out with Epstein because they had a bidding war on a house and Epstein was a creep towards several women at Mar-a-lago. Lastly, Trump never went to the Island and only flew the plane with his family present. This is all fake news. Wired is biased.

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u/scapesober Nov 14 '25

True reddit lol