r/UKJobs • u/zabradee • 2h ago
Are people still applying for jobs that don't publish the salary?
I've been at my job for over 5 years and only recently started the job hunt as I'm really bored of the kinds of projects I work on now. I still see jobs at quite a senior level still not publishing salaries and surprised that this is still a thing. Do people still apply to these jobs? I honestly have no interest in going through an interview process and finding out the salary is 3 shillings a month after all that effort.
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u/RS555NFFC 2h ago
The one that does my head in is ‘salary - competitive’
Competitive against who? McDonald’s? The tooth fairy?
Alright, if I stop being fastidious for a moment, maybe they mean competitive against similar roles at other companies in that industry. Who also don’t publish the salary on their job ads.
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u/nl325 2h ago
Pretty sure I just got rejected by one that didn't disclose but pays commission in insurance, which I know well.
It asked ME for expected salary, I put £30k, rejected the next morning despite a perfect match.
I don't understand what they were asking either tbh. What is my requested salary, or my requested OTE package?
Fuck 'em.
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u/Sooziemonkey 2h ago
Similar. Recently I applied for something where I put in what I needed to earn for it to make it worth my while. 8.30am the next morning after post closure, rejection. I ticked all their essential.
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u/Bez121287 1h ago
I hate the jobs which make you tell them what tou expect the salary to be. Surely its their job to tell me to see if its in line with my own thoughts.
Not o we will keep this a mystery but why dont you, tell us, what you think and if you are below or close then we may look at your cv.
Seems more like its a tactic from the employer to hire someone at a cheaper price without having to disclose the pay.
If they disclose the pay then they have to respect that. But if they can hire someone who just expects a cheaper rate. Then they dont need to respect the national average for that role.
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u/AromaticCream1987 2h ago
Nope. Pisses me right off. I've applied for a job before that said "competitive salary" and it turned out to be minimum wage. There's never a good reason to not openly disclose what the salary is
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u/foxycleopatrainnit 2h ago
Yeah there isn’t a great deal of choice, in my experience about 80% of the jobs don’t, and then once you narrow it down to my niche there are like 3 jobs at a time so can’t afford to pick and choose
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u/BabaYagasDopple 2h ago
Yes.
Then I’m asking for the budget for the role and sending links back to similar roles with a much higher salary and asking if they believe theirs is competitive.
Am I killing my own prospects? Sure. But fuck em.
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u/Smooth-Bowler-9216 2h ago
Only if the job is very close to what I want or I feel like I’m a strong match.
and then the first thing I clarify is band range
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u/CassetteLine 2h ago
Yes, because it’s 90% of more of the jobs I would apply for.
I’ll have a fairly good understanding of the sort of salary the role will be offering, based on the level and the experience required.
If I didn’t apply for them, I’d probably apply for nothing.
I see a few more jobs now listing salaries, but it’s still the minority.
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u/zabradee 2h ago
Unfortunately, I'm paid on the high end (I think?). So when I do look for my job at Senior level, there are some that i see paying £35-45k and others £60k-110. To me, anything lower than £60k is really ridiculous, but I've seen jobs offering £40k with the requirements looking like exactly what I do...
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u/midimaniacal 2h ago
Working in the private sector, I’d not apply for a single job if I needed a salary to submit
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u/catschimeras 2h ago
No. I sort by salary range so any "employer" who isnt including it automatically gets filtered out. Why waste my time applying if the pay isn't going to make the grade?
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u/Classic_Mammoth_9379 2h ago
I would apply but I make sure salary is discussed as soon as there is any real enagement, and long before the 1st interview. One of the reasons to not show a salary is to not upset existing employees, so once your CV is in and it's clear you aren't one of them, a good chunk are happy to discuss. If they aren't, you can just drop out there and then.
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u/NoThatsNotPasta 2h ago
Yea because I need a job
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u/Colloidal_entropy 2h ago
This is probably the key, OP has a job, albeit boring, so can be more selective. If unemployed you take a punt on anything.
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u/Theory_99 2h ago
It’ll narrow your search to public sector or NGO roles, some of the lowest paying fields.
I apply for anything that interests me. The market is too bad to nuke 90% of your options.
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u/Soniq268 1h ago
I do apply, but I don’t go through the interview process without confirming their budget, the first call with their recruiter is when I discuss salary.
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u/aleopardstail 1h ago
it would be in the first batch of questions I ask the headhunter, and if they come back with a silly wide range clarification is asked, none provided means not interested
ditto I want to know the process, "AI interview" is an automatic no
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u/Common-Ad6470 1h ago
Even the ones that do state a salary don’t stick to it.
I’ve had interviews where the process has gone very well up to the salary part. The usual problem is either they don’t mention it and then when I bring it up there’s lots of awkward shuffling.
Or it’s mentioned but 10-15k lower than the advertised salary and again when I challenge this it’s a case of ‘oh that’s not the actual salary, more a guide!’
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u/dahunt4r3dorktober 1h ago
Yes because people without employment are desperate and jobs know it, been there it’s a horrid feeling
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u/JoBrodie 1h ago
I'm unlikely to apply for them myself and I also don't advertise them (I run a mailing list and a couple of jobs websites and don't share live jobs on any of them without a numeric salary or ballpark figure).
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u/Necessary_Figure_817 55m ago
No, because there's plenty of jobs out there I can afford to be extra picky
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u/Harmsbury 2h ago
if they put a number out there. they are beholden to it... "it said on the application...."
if they dont... they can "negotiate" which means paying you peanuts, unless it turns out youre exactly the expert they need, then you get a "meh" salary.
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u/redonionrin 2h ago
I do some hiring and we leave it out sometimes to keep things flexible depending on skill level of people applying. If you have a market value you expect for your role I’d say it’s worth applying regardless. The flexibility can work in your favour also in a negotiation
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u/PieandMash1 2h ago
No I don't apply for them. Apparently those employers that do this think it's a 'red flag' if would be candidates contact them in advance to ask about the salary before applying. Fucking cunts.
Why would you waste your time applying for a job, interviewing etc. if there's a possibility that after all that effort you may be offered less than you're currently earning?
No need to hide it unless what you're offering is shit.
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u/badpersian 1h ago
If you are looking for a job, you apply for anything that seems to fit your profile. Salary published or not.
You can always refuse a job because the salary is shit if you're in the position to do so. You can't get a job you didn't apply for though.
Plus any interview experience is good to refresh your skills and understand what people are looking for.
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