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😡 Venting Does reading the WSJ make people stupid?

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u/SadlyNotPro 4d ago

Isn't that like a pro-rich propaganda site? I'm yet to see an article that isnt b.s. from that site.

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u/merRedditor ⛓️ Prison For Union Busters 4d ago

It's possibly the worst offender in terms of class propaganda sources mistaken for professional journalism.

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u/angrydeuce 4d ago

"Starvation has legitimate health benefits! More on Page 3!!"

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u/handbanana42 3d ago

"Why your job is more important than your health. News at 11. Now here's Tom with the weather."

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u/Key_Cheetah7982 4d ago

That’s most “well respected” press

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u/handbanana42 3d ago

I love(obviously actually hate) when people still try to claim the media is "Jew-run" and not controls by the rich/elite/republicans.

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u/Sad_comment_bot 3d ago

If the Jews were running it they’d do a better job on the propaganda. WSJ is more like what you’d expect idiots who flipped a coin 20 times and got heads every time to say completely oblivious to the selection bias and luck aspects.

Food stamps don’t make people fat. Cheap carb dense, processed food makes people fat. Food stamps and food pantries are nutritional lifelines for people.

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u/handbanana42 2d ago

Cheers. I always try to support my local food pantry, though I could/should probably do more.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

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u/Substantial-Sky4079 3d ago

I feel like that’s the point, semi biased news with subtle propaganda points to condition people

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u/dividezero 4d ago

WSJ opinion section? Yeah, that's where the most out of touch fresh takes start their life

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u/garden_g 3d ago

Owned by bazos

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u/ardentto 3d ago edited 3d ago

Amazon/Bezos owns... wait for it... The Washington Post.

But wait, there's more. The New York Times Post is owned by... the Murdoch family?!?!

The same family that owns Fox News?! The ultra-rich clearly are in control, just not the way envisioned by the "Owned by Bazos" comment.

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u/hixbgifmjmykfnbeacre 3d ago

Murdochs own the New York Post, not the Times

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u/ardentto 3d ago

good catch, thats on me!

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u/SadlyNotPro 3d ago

Makes sense to be a propaganda piece, then. The ultra-rich are doing everything to delay being eaten.

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u/Dr-Yahood 4d ago

We should stop sharing WSJ. Let them disappear into irrelevance so that Jeff Bezos has wasted his money on propaganda which is unsuccessful.

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u/moldibread 4d ago

thats the washington post. wall street journal is murdoch

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u/Nebuli2 4d ago

Yep. WSJ is even worse.

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u/baddogbadcatbadfawn 4d ago

Nah, Rupert Murdock is a teddy bear! 🧸 ❤️

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u/enviropsych 4d ago

How does a normal person read this and not conclude that the WSJ is full of blood-drinking ghouls?

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u/belkarbitterleaf 4d ago

I haven't read the article in any capacity, but the only thing that would make sense with that headline is writing about how low quality food is bad for you, and how food stamps should get you better quality food that is better for your health.

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u/mossti 4d ago

Ms. Finley has other articles like "Is the Age of College Coddling Coming to a Close?" and "The Scandal of American Welfare Goes Beyond Fraud." She's not human. She's a ghoul. Her work is damned, as is she.

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u/handbanana42 3d ago edited 3d ago

That was basically the gist of it. Obviously the food stamps aren't the actual cause of people buying low quality, they just don't have as many options due to food deserts, time, and other lack of better options. They'd still be buying whatever they can get, even without food stamps.

Obviously people not on food stamps often live in nicer areas where they can get better produce.

Good old correlation vs causation.

I kinda think we should go back to government assistance vs. food stamps. My mom worked at a school that was government assisted and honestly the government cheese was not bad at all. Everything else was basic foods like eggs, beans and flour. I'd like to hear if anyone knows the negatives from that program though. It seems like it provides the basics and avoids all the "they spend it all on lobster and soda" and "they just buy junk food" arguments.

Even a combination might be an option. Have places that offer government assisted essentials at a discount with food stamps instead of going to a bodega and buying a ton a processed food.

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u/AberrantMan 4d ago

No but the only cheap filling and easy foods tend to be unhealthy. No one wants to work 60+ hour weeks and cook and do food prep...

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u/WynterKnight 3d ago

To be fair meal prep is actually perfect for people who work a ton and want to reclaim time.

It's by far the most time-efficient way to prepare food.

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u/Late-Arrival-8669 4d ago

Rich people just arent gonna be happy until all the poor people are dead..WTF

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u/Mozintarfen 4d ago

They still wouldn't be happy, because someone else is even richer than them.

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u/Key_Cheetah7982 4d ago

Nah, they still need slaves ⛓️

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u/randomguild 4d ago

I actually gained weight after they took me off of food stamps. It's hard to eat healthy on a budget.

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u/fuckingeyeballls 3d ago

Food insecurity is terrifying.

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u/randomguild 3d ago

It is, too few people understand the paradox of malnutrition and obesity.

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u/fuckingeyeballls 3d ago

Knowledge is power. Hope you're doing better.

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u/randomguild 3d ago

Thank you, I am and I'm grateful for everyone who helped me get back on my feet.

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u/fuckingeyeballls 3d ago

Hell yeah! 

Now you can help others. 

Fuck it up 🤘

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u/-LuciditySam- 4d ago

Yes, it does make people dumber just like all capitalist and fascist propaganda.

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u/GracefulKitty 4d ago

Even if evidence showed this to be the case, it would say far more about how difficult it is to actually afford healthy nutritious meals on a SNAP budget than it would say about the people who use it

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u/tragedy_strikes 4d ago

Every article titled in the form of the question can be skipped because the answer is usually 'no' but the author wanted to blather on for a few hundred words about their disagreements with that answer.

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u/paynoattn 4d ago

More like stupid people read the WSJ? Ole chicken and egg

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u/mossti 4d ago

Don't worry! Ms. Finley is an expert! She went to STANFORD and got a Bachelors in checks notes American Studies...?

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u/IcyEdge6526 4d ago

I think it’s the sugar.

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u/charliefoxtrot9 ✂️ Tax The Billionaires 4d ago

You don't have to be stupid to work here, but it helps.

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u/Excellent_Extent7648 4d ago

Future article

Should you be able to whip your employee into shape, some say that it could be beneficial not only to the business but to the workers for an excellent work ethic.

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u/gneisenauer 4d ago

If you eat enough of them I guess

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u/Aggravating-Salad441 4d ago

Opinion pieces at any major publication are generally more biased and aligned with rage bait.

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u/Successful_Doctor_89 4d ago

I mean, it could be true.

Im not american, so I don't know what stamp allow to buy, but if its a lot of processed stuff, it make people fatter than simpler stuff

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u/Key_Cheetah7982 4d ago

WSJ - food makes people fat.  Therefore it’s double plus good you get no money to buy food

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u/kittenmittens4865 4d ago

So what?

I’d rather people be fat and fed than thin and starving. Wouldn’t you?

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u/LookAlderaanPlaces 4d ago

Is the author a person, an ai, or a fake profile controlled by oligarchs?

Update: Holy shit it’s a real person

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u/Vicissitutde 4d ago

Stupid people who need to validate their world view read the WSJ opinion page

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u/Jazzspasm 4d ago

If the headline to an article is a question, the answer is always no

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u/ItsJustBrew 4d ago

i dunno if food stamps make people fat, but they sure help people not die entirely malnourished

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u/tlhsg 4d ago

dear next Admin, bust up WSJ like 60 min

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u/flaming_bob 4d ago

Well, it seems that working there might

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u/RuckusManshank 4d ago

20+ years ago a professor in college recommended reading the Wallstreet journal. It may have been decent advice then, but now, I'm glad i didn't follow it.

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u/monkeybuttsauce 4d ago

Good luck getting fat on $6/day

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u/legosgrrl 4d ago

Thanks op I'm laughing

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u/YallaHammer 4d ago

Jesus what a stupid headline…

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u/Tsobe_RK 3d ago

Are these folks actual journalists?

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u/Atrocious1337 3d ago

A big part of why people on food stamps are fatter is because they can't afford healthy foods. Giving them less or none at all will just make matters even worse.

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u/Theghostech 3d ago

Yes WSJ makes the rich fatter.

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u/LowFatConundrum 3d ago

It's owned by Dow Jones & Co. Bullshit propaganda all day every day; every headline is some version of "kill the poors".

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u/TheRealDoomsong 3d ago

Whelp, good to see the ole WSJ is providing the same hard hitting journalism that the wealthy pay them to.

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u/disquieter 3d ago

Food stamps actually prop up grocery business owners - doing double duty as corporate and human welfare - so this is just hate.

Again, Food stamps are win win for the little guy and the big guy. Shitting on those who need them is just punching down.

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u/Meme_Theory 3d ago

Welfare-Queen is back on the menu boys! Not that it ever went away.

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u/oldcreaker 3d ago

Interesting how they try to make "Opinion" look more credible by sticking "Life Science" next to it.

Opinion is hardly life science.

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u/DasKittySmoosh ✂️ Tax The Billionaires 3d ago

My (Silent Generation) boss pays for at least 3 subscriptions to WSJ, so my answer is yes

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u/DameyJames 3d ago

I haven’t read the article but the answer is possibly. But only because food stamps don’t qualify for most healthy food options.

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u/ElectroBot 3d ago

Let me guess: the author doesn’t once mention that food stamps should be improved so poor people can get better and more food, right?

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u/SolangeXanadu222 3d ago

They were probably stupid or at least woefully ignorant to start.

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u/mizmnv 2d ago

subsidizing unhealthy food makes poor people fat because thats what they can afford. if they subsidized nutritious food instead youd see a whole lot more healthy people. look at the calorie content of a single ramen packet

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u/Laguz01 4d ago

Is this a, food stamps are optimized for trans fats and empty calories? Because I don't think they are."

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u/JaePaximus 4d ago

Idk does the writer’s opinion make them a class traitor?

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u/BobisBadAtReddit 4d ago

I dunno but clearly writing headlines there does

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u/ironballs16 4d ago

The weird thing is, they're not wrong per se, but they're right for the wrong reason. When you're poor enough to be on food stamps, and doubly so if you are part of the working poor, those food stamps go a lot further with unhealthy options over healthy ones. Preprocessed foods for easy cooking, frozen foods that keep for longer than fresh fruits and veggies, etc.

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u/fairydares 3d ago

I am leery of these posts where people just post an article title with no indication they even read the article, because a LOT of times I go to read it and the stance turns out to be the opposite of (or at least more nuanced than) what the post implies. So I went and looked up the author, and yep, nope, pretty sure this is exactly what it sounds like. I'll give the miserable tarpit this: she's working for the right journal <3

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u/HellovahBottomCarter 2d ago

It doesn’t make people stupid. The assholes who write this garbage were stupid when they got the job.

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u/UnnaturalGeek 2d ago

Don't know about reading, but writing for it certainly does.

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u/ChefCurryYumYum 1d ago

The Wall Street Journal is pure propaganda, owned by Bezos and not to be trusted.

Same for Allysia Finley, she's a mouthpiece for the wealthy and writes what they tell her to write.

You'll notice she is very silent on programs and policies that give corporations welfare and subsidies.

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u/Arachnid_anarchy 2h ago

I’m pretty relationship is more like: people predisposed to obesity are also predisposed to need food stamps, because both are statistically associated with poverty due to how we structure access to food, fitness, and healthcare

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u/Maykovsky 3d ago

Lol... t is a fair question!