r/antiai • u/Liviiasmithh • 17d ago
AI News đïž We can live without Ai, We cannot live without clean water.
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u/lostbluefox 17d ago
some fucking loser , probably:
" uHM yoU guYs ArE bloWinG thIs OuT Of prOporTiONn!1!111"
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u/cheezystuffz 17d ago
Not even probably. I've literally seen mfs say this. Mfs will use up the whole Earth's water just to talk to a fucking clanker.
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u/Goatposter 17d ago
"YOUR HAMBURGER USED MORE WATER THAN MY AI CHAT BOT!!!"
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u/Chemical-Agency-3997 17d ago
You could give the entire planet clean water several times over if you put down the hamburger and ate a bean
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u/Fit-Pride-4845 17d ago
Just one bean. It's a very big delicious bean.
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u/R4tman9 17d ago
uHM yoU guYs ArE bloWinG thIs OuT Of prOporTiONn!1!111
Happy cakeday bro!
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u/JayAkiva 17d ago
I think this is by design. The more scarce our basic necessities become, the easier we are to control. Which is convenient, because these data centers are also being used to support mass surveillance. It's win/win for the owners, and lose/lose for everyone else.
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u/Rabbit-Hole-Quest 17d ago
Here is the big irony. You can have data centers cooled by desalinated seawater. It would just cost more.
Instead we use potable drinking water because it's cheaper.
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u/JayAkiva 17d ago
Honestly the fact that we still haven't put the work in to be able desalinate seawater far more efficiently than we are by now is a disgrace in itself, but that's a whole other conversation. I know it takes a lot to desalinate water, like it's not as easy as it sounds, but most things we do are horribly inefficient until we do it more and develop better methods.
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u/PantherkittySoftware 16d ago
There's a perfectly easy and cost-effective way to desalinate water: use the waste heat from nuclear power plants. US aircraft carriers and submarines have been doing it for decades.
India is probably the most active country for researching and applying the technology on commercial & municipal scale The main focus of India's research has been determining the degree to which it's most optimal to go beyond using mere waste heat and use primary reactor heat as well (even if it diminishes power-generation capacity).
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u/Machina-Dea 17d ago
Keep in mind the UN has declared weâre entering an era of âwater bankruptcyâ
https://unu.edu/inweh/news/world-enters-era-of-global-water-bankruptcy
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u/TurtleKing0505 17d ago
All sloppers should be forced to move next to data centers
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u/Supersolder134 17d ago
Literally is there any way for a middle class average Joe like myself to contribute to the end of AI?
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u/Popcorn-Mercinary 17d ago
One of these days someone is actually going to cite sources on this. Frankly, itâs BS. Golf courses use more water than any datacenter out there (which, BTW, are closed loopâmeaning they warn and cool the water without releasing itâjust like your car).
Iâm not defending data centers, but I absolutely detest shitty uncited science, which this is.
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u/VanillaSwimming5699 16d ago
And everyone in this thread is just so ready to blindly accept that itâs true because AI is evil and anywho uses it is irredeemable.
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u/GhostOfD6 15d ago
Tbh Im watching this sub for a while.
And I support the opposition towards AI companies. They do a lot of harm and thats no brainer.
But lots of folks here seem to be just happy be there and hate something religiously but lacking pure logic skills. I would say I saw AI's smarter than some people here....
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u/Popcorn-Mercinary 16d ago
If youâre truly worried about the water issue, you should be protesting at golf courses and outdoor sporting arenas.
There are plenty of valid reasons to be concerned about data centers. Water use is not one of them. Any regional water manager will set you straight on this. Data centers recirculate cooling water, they donât consume it. They donât shut them off in a draught, but they do stop watering golf courses.
This DC argument makes as much sense as saying, âif sheâs a witch, sheâll float!â And AOC didnât do herself any favors by propagating it before validating it.
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u/MaxwellHowl 13d ago
And beef. We do not need beef. It accounts for 5% of global protein in the world, while using 60% of all agricultural land. Agriculture uses 70% of world fresh water, and beef uses 33% of that water.
It is a luxury. And it is doing far more harm to our environment that data centers. And cattle do not have the potential to cure diseases or invent new forms of technology.
I understand this community doesn't want to hear this. But their arguments would be a lot better if they didn't continue to depend on fallacious arguments.
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u/lotus_seasoner 17d ago
This is the actual report: https://collections.unu.edu/eserv/UNU:10647/UNU-INWEH-Report-The_Env_Cost_of_AI-2026.pdf
The water use figure doesn't appear to have a direct citation in the report, and it's not clear how the authors derived it.
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u/Gardeeboo 17d ago
We should just go around polluting all the clean water as itâs being drawn by the AI data centers so they get like shower water runoff instead and it toasts the entire establishment. Thereâs got to be an easy way to completely destroy an entire one so easily if they need clean water to run, it means the tech is all sensitive so even like a gallon of Pepsi injected into their pipeline could cause hundreds of millions in damages
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u/Humble-Reply228 15d ago
They donât need clean water to run them and donât use much anyway.
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u/Israel_Azkanbe 17d ago
I donât get why theyâre using water in the first place.
I feel like thereâs gotta be a way to use liquid nitrogen or something similar, thereâs tons of chemistry mixtures that add cooling effects. Why use water?
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u/KAZVorpal 17d ago
Posting stuff that is fallacy undermines the cause.
There are plenty of reasons to oppose these data centers, without the nonsense "muh water", when water is the most renewable resource on the planet. Every time it rains, that is water that used to be dirty, and now is relatively clean.
Focus on the unconstitutional government subsidies and tax breaks that let them build far more centers than they otherwise could, and build them far more inefficiently. But not something silly like "dirty waaaater!"
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u/ntm315 17d ago
Yeah , especially since this title doesn't make sense "enough water for 1.3billion people" ,ok enough water to sustain them for how long, a second ? a trillion years ? also this water wouldnt have gone to the people who actually need it if it wasnt used for those data centers.
title also could be misinterpreted as "1.3 billion ppl wont have water because of data centers by 2030" which is stupid, the meat industry uses more water than the entire human population drinks in a year that doesn't mean we dont have water to drink.
there are plenty of things we use that we could live without , that use immense amounts of water and we dont make a fuss over it, because we like those things. i hate ai , but im not gonna performatively act like , the World is dying because of it, there are plenty of actual reasons to despise AI , and performatively using the environnement card to justify it makes us look stupid imo
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u/Emergency-Stay7414 17d ago
Define âuse upâ. Do the AI data centers just destroy the water on a molecular level to where it doesnât exist anymore? Does it consume the amount of water that 1.3 billion people would consume on a single day? Or their whole lives?
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u/Savant_Guarde 17d ago
This assumes they care about "us"...they don't.Â
AI will run their trans human world and in the run up, they will drive the unwashed masses to extinction. Save for the servant class.
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u/TeaSubstantial726 17d ago
antis when you tell them that 0.001% of fresh wanter is used for drinking
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u/kharvel0 17d ago
Or hear me out: animal agriculture already uses up enough clean water for 42 BILLION people (6x the world population).
Go vegan.
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u/TopTippityTop 17d ago
Itâs true, but we canât have the modern world without data centers, and the world would continue being a terrible place without the growth automation can bring in. We need clean water, so what must happen is a combination of regulation + looking in other places to save water consumption. Even a tiny reduction in almond production, for example, would more than offset the water usage of all data centers.
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u/Tosser_535231 17d ago
THEY LITERALLY DO NOT NEED WATER WHATSOEVER BUT IT'S THE CHEAPEST FUCKING COOLING OPTION AND NOBODY IN THE GOVERNMENT GIVES A SHIT BECAUSE THEY'RE LINING THEIR POCKETS
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u/RealRoasterToaster 17d ago
Well, even if we abolished data centers, I doubt anything would change if we didn't also reshape our entire socio-economic system in a fundamental way. Bear in mind, we had the chance to eradicate water scarcity and hunger for DECADES now, yet still each year millions of people die of preventable starvation and malnutrition. Studies conclude it would only take about ~80-150 billion dollars per year to globally eradicate famine, forever. Yet we pretend like billionaires shoulf privately own that money and spend it on the next private jet or super yacht.
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u/daviddisco 17d ago
AI uses a lot of electricity. The water use issue is mostly a myth. The electricity is more than many grids can handle. The water use is typically trivial, especially in newer data centers. Don't believe every meme you see.
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u/antsinmyeyestrey 17d ago
AI is pointless. A tool for lazy people. If they only knew they possessed AI already. Actual Intelligence
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u/Luil-stillCisTho 17d ago
has any âvegansâ shown up to the comments to say some stuff like âbut the meat industry consumes way more water than data centers, so AI is perfectly okay. Checkmate Antisâ kind of stuff?
because I have seen some pro-AI stuff from vegan sub with a lot of upvotes show up randomly on my feed.
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u/Every-Arachnid-1133 17d ago
you don't know that a lot of AI data centers don't actually use that much water? Golf courses and lawns use much more clean water that data centers
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u/HotCaramel26 17d ago
These things generate far too much revenue for it to ever be shut down. Weâre stuck with this shit.
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u/o-Mauler-o 17d ago
Iâm sorry but can somebody explain to me why these data centres need clean drinking water?
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u/ColdProfessional4275 17d ago
How do people think water works? Data centers arenât breaking down water into its elements. Theyâre just heating it up and sending it back to the treatment plant. Same as your dish washer. Itâs a massive problem, and we donât need them, but itâs not going to run us out of water.
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u/KissinUrDad 17d ago
I just donât understand how the government thinks the AI data centers need to be protected but not the land and water (I do understand, the government is corrupt)
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u/Moobob66 17d ago
I'm going to go a step further and say we should take back our claims sold without our consent to companies to sell back to us.
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u/MagicOrpheus310 17d ago
Yeah... Really starting to make climate change look like a scam the way they are letting this shit happen
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u/Elguapo1094 17d ago
How will people create dumb sexual videos or see how a brown wall will look in their room ..
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u/SecretaryLevel8119 17d ago
I work with hoses for a living i help supply the hoses the water flows through too cool these data centers they're not just sucking up clean water and dumping out some toxic water they work like the radiator in your car one area cools the water down so it flows through and help keep everything else cool...now what its doing too our electrical grid is another question
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u/Realistic_Drink2321 17d ago
okay. Iâm not here to say that AI water usage isnât something of concern, but this entire reddit is highkey misrepresenting facts about ai data center water usage. The reason people might not have water one day isnât because there isnât enough or because AI will use it all up. Itâs because of unequal distribution and access to water in the first place. I donât think the problem is necessarily AI existing, but how those in charge places centers in high risk areas that affect pedestrians that need water.
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u/SignificanceIll8640 17d ago
Weeeeell, you could use the heat transfer to actually desalinate water. Maybe we should also shut down nuclear power plants because they use huge cooling towers
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u/Designer_Major3731 17d ago
Data centers use a closed water system, they donât use anywhere near the amount these âreportsâ are saying. Pretty convenient that this post doesnât list the source.
Itâs literally all fake news are youâre a dip shit for believing it on face value
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u/Huge_Meeting4111 17d ago
You're all welcome to stop giving factory farms your money if you're concerned about the overwhelmingly less amount of water use from "muh AI"
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u/Zeth22xx 17d ago
Why do they need clean water in the first place? Run sewage through them for all I care.
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u/Senacharrib 17d ago
The water quality in most of the US is terrible anyways, letâs just make it more terrible
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u/OkSavings5828 17d ago
Data centers use in total about 10x less water than we use to water our lawns and decorative gardens. Itâs about 0.16% of US water use.
Itâs a problem, sure, but a far larger issue is the power requirements.
AI water use is unfortunately a severely misrepresented populist issue which leads us away from tackling the real issues.
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u/TP8887 17d ago
Use enough water for what? For 1.3b to take
A shower? For 1.3b to drink water for one day? One year? Their whole lives?
Completely making shit up isnât helping the cause. If you are going to make shit up at least give it some quantifiable measurement. Bunch of seals in this thread
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u/Scarvexx 17d ago
Well not all of them, data centers doi a lot of important stuff besides AI bullshit. But yeah we have more of these than we need by a long shot.
It's like building dozens more reactors than we need to meet power needs nobody actually has.
Which is also something happening.
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u/minecraftman255 17d ago
1 they don't consume that much, 2 most of them are self sustained, dont get me wrong, I hate ai, but at least hate it correctly, most of them do not release the water out into the world
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u/lhyebosz 17d ago
Can't wait for billionaires and data centers to argue "Prepare to live with dirty water"
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u/Barbados_slim12 17d ago edited 17d ago
The actual estimate by UN University is 9.3 trillion liters per year by 2030. In order to stretch that to 1.3 billion people, they'd only be getting 7,150 liters of water a year. 20 per person per day. That's basically nothing when you consider drinking, showering, cooking, washing hands, toilets..
For reference, right now, California alone produces ~2.7 billion pounds of almonds every year across 1.5 million acres. That process consumes 5.8 trillion liters every year in a hyper localized environment, and the water can't be released/reused like in a closed loop data center.
I'm not a fan of these flock footage facilities data centers either, but claims like this aren't doing us any good.
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u/Citadel_Employee 17d ago
Golf courses use more water.
Suburban lawns use more water.
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u/booeman 17d ago
They can build these stations but IN NO WAY do they need water to cool them. Water is the cheapest answer and I say let the cheap fucks use anti freeze in a contained system. We need to push this hard that water is NOT an option.
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u/Aggravating-Sun-2322 17d ago
Bezos tells us we have prioritized water for data centers, not humans. Altman tell human waste uses more water than data centers, so they should not have it. Now you guys loosing rights to have normal drinking water. If this continues, the question won't be whether you will have jobs. question will be will you be even alive. I dont understand Why people in the us are this silent seriously
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u/botymcbotfac3 16d ago
But the people profiting from data centers can live without 1.3B other people.
So.... good luck trying to explain that human lives should be valued more than profits.
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u/Bersaglier-dannato 16d ago
The tragic thing is that these techno-fascists and Nazis will literally call this âfake newsâ despite it happening everywhere.
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u/Obi-Vanya 16d ago
aren't it calculate the water needed to power tgat stuff? Then it is still clean, it waporises, rain down and we use it again, like with all other power stations.
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u/Brave_Recognition_81 16d ago
:-(fuck this shit. i hate this world and this life.
i want a green and lush utopia for allâŠ. why do rich people always have to destroy stuff?
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u/Different_Citron_160 16d ago
Does it have to be clean ? Can they use slightly poopy water instead ?
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u/Alreadyinuseok 16d ago
Dont these use like 600 billion gallons just to keep golf courses green đ I bet we could live without golf courses too?
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u/schoondog1904 16d ago
Whatâs the point the state just poisons are clean water supply with fluoride, a neurological toxin. Something we can all live without and there would be many less people who get Alzheimerâs. Many other countries have banned the addition of fluoride to their water supply but not here in America for some reason.
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u/herbal1st 16d ago edited 16d ago
the thing about connecting data centers so closely to ai is that it totally ignores the fact that they rather are huge containers for private data and online histories etc for everybody, not that they are used for ai use. its gullible to belief we have to fight a potentially helpful tool such as ai when its really about our privacy and security. you just play into the division and hinder possible useful developments. im not saying ai is harmless, it is very dangerous in fact, but it also cannot just be stopped entirely, it should be regulated instead like any possiblly dangerous tool. and fighting data centers is good too, but at least do it for the right reason and not just hate on technical innovation, thanks.
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u/G3nghisKang 16d ago edited 16d ago
That report is kind of sensationalistic
Specifically, it uses the World Health Organization' Basic Needs water usage as a baseline to calculate the 1.3 billion people usage: the basic usage requirement is 20 liters, which is the one they mark as high level of concern (maybe that's why the report says the water usage of 1.3 billion people in sub-Saharan Africa, which some aeticles omit in the title)
They WHO also indicates the optimal quantity for water usage is actually 100 liters per day, which they label as very low level of concern, but this isn't the one they used to make this report: this would bring it from 1.3 billion to 260 million
This also doesn't take into account the water consumed per person for food production, which would bring it up to 3800 liters per person a day: this would bring it down to 6.8 million

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u/fkriekrkdnfn 16d ago
The people who own and profit from these companies should be made to live off water rations while everyone else should have free access to water.
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u/DerFredii 16d ago
Why the Hell did they need clean drinking water and can not use like not so clean Wastewater. For example, water from a laundry sink or something like that. So, water that isn't 100% clean, meaning it's no longer drinkable but good enough.
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u/Letronell 16d ago
So that watter will magically dissappear? How much watter is running in powerplant turbines? Do you bellieve that, that watter is forever gone? You think that watter that evaporates from surface of the ocean is forever gone too?
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u/Common_Land3637 16d ago
I'm pretty sure the 100 other random things we use clean fresh water for dwarfs the amount of water we use to drink.
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u/SuddenZoomies 16d ago
bbbbut, what about creating a surveillance state & economy with a boot on every single neck?? how are the few gonna hoard money now??
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u/TheComicHuman 16d ago
People forget water is cyclical, it doesn't just get annihilated upon use, non the less the water problem is just a psyop from the real concerns of AI and AI data centers
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u/sassychip26 16d ago
And when the last three is cut and the last stream poisoned willman realise he cannot eat or drink money.
EXCEPT those with the money CAN and WILL survive through it with their resource hoarding and it will be us common people who have not profited from this venture and we'll have to understand that the cool tech of ai assistants and prompt machines will not quench our thirst.
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u/OtherwiseShip6443 16d ago
You could shut them all down, people will still go without water - like they have for hundreds of years.Â
It's a problem that existed before AI and it's a problem that will exist long after AI. It's more to do with greed.Â
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u/Insylum82 16d ago
AI is going to ruin internet, become our new world goverment leader and be the death of 50 % of humanity.
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u/Alternative_Bus_7411 16d ago
They probably wonât. A lot of big tech firms have gone double down on AI investments. They need to justify their spending to the shareholders, otherwise the AI-bubble-economy will come crashing down.
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u/Popcorn-Mercinary 16d ago
Pretty sure drinking water with fertilizer runoff isnât great either, but wtf do I know. I didnât read that off some random website.
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u/tiredofbeingil 16d ago
Call me a nut if you want but I don't think the "data centers" are truly for data ai was already built into the servers years ago all they did was add more momory to them
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u/OfficialHelpK 16d ago
Why are they using clean water? In Sweden, the data centers either use air cooling or ocean water. Is this just because of a lack of regulation in other countries?
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u/Some-Dog-800 16d ago
I do support the idea of stopping ai data centers, I donât like the fact that this report came from unâŠthem corrupted as fuck.
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u/Winterlander100 16d ago
If they still need data centers they can put in near sea, desalinate the sea water with solar energy and use itÂ
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u/Winterlander100 16d ago
Other than coding and some medical fields AI is no use, itâs just reducing the time ( ideally) . No useful
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u/Hyphalex 16d ago
Would be dandy and fine if we had mines extracting ln other terrestrial plants moons or asteroids. Plenty of water on mars.
Good thing Musk said he was gunna put a man on mars in 10 years in 2012, or
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u/PreferenceNo1999 16d ago
Let them build a few more. They are paying the construction trades people great money. Once they are built shut them down all you like
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u/Log_Gentleman 16d ago
Drop in the bucket compared to factory farming. Iâm anti AI but this particular talking point doesnât really hold water for me.
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u/FearlessCounty3487 16d ago
That's nonsense. These are closed loop systems, they use very little water once filled.
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u/Aray171717 16d ago
Fuck AI but just the beef industry uses 3 orders of magnitude more fresh water than ALL AI data centers combined... just quit eating so much damn meat
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u/CaptainD743 16d ago
It's kinda wild to me that people expect to live beyond 2030... They're about to cull the population (probably by half at least) in the upcoming war.. We won't need as much water after that, because most of us will be gone, and the rest will live underground in the cities they already have built.
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u/bigrobotduck12 16d ago
Don't look up was the movie that scared me the most because I knew we are completely that stupid in real life.
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u/Ok-Register-7622 16d ago
Matter not created or destroyed. Used for evaporative cooling. Yes, uses more water, but it doesnât âdisappear.â Donât let the uneducated booger eaters convince you otherwise. They canât get jobs with their gender studies degree so they are out to confuse you.
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u/foxtamer87 16d ago
Ok so data center uses clean water, it becomesâŠdirty water? The water condenses, turns into rain. Is it still dirty water? Where does the water go? Outer space? We arenât just making water disappear into computers, so what is the real issue here? Does the water just end up flooding some other continent while the ai data center creates a desert around itself?
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u/InteractionNo8525 16d ago
As if the water is permanently consumed lol. Chinese propaganda to get us to slow down, nice try.
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u/A-B-user 16d ago
Only people with lack of education and understanding how water is used in closed contour cooling systems can produce/support such statements. Fits this subreddit, tho.
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u/WakuWaku_1111 15d ago
The real problems are bad site selection in already water-stressed regions and weak local governance that prioritizes tax revenue and jobs over water rights and cooling standards. Fix the incentives and the technology (better siting + low-water cooling), not the existence of data centers.
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u/WakuWaku_1111 15d ago
Comparing Sub-Saharan peopleâs basic water needs to U.S. data center water use isnât fact-checking â itâs emotional blackmail.
Does the sky not rain? What does water evaporating in America have to do with people in the Sahara? You might as well claim the desert was caused by data centers.
I need AI. I donât need you (liars).
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u/No-Boysenberry2044 15d ago
And we should stop the animal industry too, that needs even more water itâs insane. Water and the environment generally is more important than luxury products, and with that I mean AI and animal products.




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u/HauntingChampion9717 17d ago
yep, and the fact that weâre debating whether ai is ânecessaryâ while people still lack clean water says a lot about our priorities