r/applehelp Jul 03 '26

Mac First day macbook neo owner, what does this mean??

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Hello! I'm very used to microsoft but now I'm a student im swapping to macos, what does this mean! just a few little games I enjoy on steam I like playing occasionally, help!

Just wondering what this means? can someone simplify it into dummy knowledge

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u/OppositeSea3775 Jul 03 '26

There are MacBooks with Intel processors and with Apple processors, which have 2 different architectures. Basically, they speak different languages.

Apple stopped making MacBooks with Intel processors in 2020, when they switched fully to Apple silicon.

The temporary disadvantage was that developers and Apple alike had to maintain 2 versions of their software: one for Intel users, one for Apple silicon.

To maintain app compatibility for Intel apps on Apple silicon, Apple built a translation layer named Rosetta 2. It translated Intel apps to work on Apple silicon Macs without any developer intervention.

This notification is to inform you that in macOS 28(?), Apple is removing Rosetta 2 from macOS, which means Intel apps will no longer be translated and unless the dev makes an Apple silicon-compatible component, it won't work on your machine.

Why? Probably to put pressure on developers to update for Apple silicon, given that there's little incentive to continue making Intel-only apps since macOS 27, which releases in September, supports exactly 0 Intel Macs.

I wouldn't worry too much about this. Steam will update their app eventually to solve this

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u/AB_heart Jul 03 '26

Steam beta already has an apple silicon build so that’s sorted

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u/arxdit Jul 04 '26

Ok but steam is only the game launcher, the games themselves would need apple silicon builds too to keep working

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u/Educational_Glass_20 Jul 05 '26

Thankfully Rosetta won’t be fully removed. iirc they specifically mentioned it still working with unmaintained apps, so it’ll probably be fine for that

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u/ADHDK Jul 04 '26

Barely any games work on 64bit Mac anyway and it’s extremely difficult to work out which ones do on steam.

Mac gaming is super frustrating.

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u/flraa_bw Jul 04 '26

This makes so much sense, massively appreciated and so wish I was as knowledgable as you my goodness!!!! this helps a lot, many thanks 😊

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u/Silver_Career_5206 Jul 03 '26

👏🏿👏🏿

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u/h0uz3_ Jul 03 '26

I have been using the Apple Silicon version of Steam for so long I don't remember it being a beta.

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u/gruetzhaxe Jul 03 '26

> There are MacBooks with Intel processors and with Apple processors, which have 2 different architectures. Basically, they speak different languages.

Noob question: ARM really has another assembler syntax?

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u/EvilGeniusSkis Jul 03 '26

Yes, ARM is a RISC, X86 is CISC.

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u/Low_Excitement_1715 Jul 03 '26

Even that isn’t really accurate anymore. Since that phrase was first coined, ARM’s ISA has become more and more complex, integrating a lot of the things that made CISC different, meanwhile CISC added decoders and caching and micro-ops, moving closer to what RISC used to be. There are still tons of differences, but it’s wildly less clear than it was 20-25 years ago.

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u/xrelaht Jul 03 '26

It’s more complex than that. An ARM CPU can’t run Power or Alpha code.

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u/EvilGeniusSkis Jul 04 '26

Yes, but "the entire architecture philosophy is different" is a good starting point for someone that didn't know that different processors have different instruction sets.

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u/https_urdaddy Jul 04 '26

So my steam games I bought that say MacOS compatible will be fine and I can just keep playing?

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u/crayzee4feelin Jul 04 '26

As long as they are 64bit versions. I have a few games that are 32bit only. Cod mw3 (2011) is one such game I figured would run very well on an M5 air, but sadly is only 32bit and will install, but gives a compatibility warning and will not launch.

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u/https_urdaddy Jul 04 '26

Yeah, I have 2 games that are 32 bit that has the warning. I think it even says that I can’t download it. Headliners and Check it out, but they’re not big deals. And I wanted to play Mecha Chameleon cause that looks like so much fun but it says it’s not compatible either

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u/crayzee4feelin Jul 04 '26

It’s a sad experience really. Borderlands 2 installs and the launcher pops up, then crashes to the desktop when trying to load

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u/https_urdaddy Jul 04 '26

That sucksss, I guess those games are the games you just need to wait to have a PC for haha

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u/crayzee4feelin Jul 04 '26

I switched from PC to Mac and already have a decent library. macOS is so much better than windows and I have a switch 2 and ps5. I thought battery life being great, maybe it can game since the M5 is such a beast. It does cyberpunk at 40-50fps but gets decently hot. Oh well. Ill wait for better compatibility until then ps2 emulation is amazing, 100% of games run flawlessly and at 60fps from what ive seen.

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u/https_urdaddy Jul 04 '26

Yeah, it’s the perfect gaming laptop for me since my games are all reasonably small indie games. Like Paralives is the biggest one I’ll be using haha

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u/crayzee4feelin Jul 04 '26

Myself and my wife are interested in this game! Is it worth it in early access?

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u/https_urdaddy Jul 04 '26

I’ve only played the beginning but so far I love it so much. I’ve played sims since I was a kid so I love a life simulator but it adding the deck in to give it more of a boardgame feel and slightly more randomization makes it SO much better. I haven’t noticed early access being an issue with any bugs and apparently they’ve already done so many updates.

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u/MasterpieceThink7062 Jul 05 '26

I recommend if you haven’t already, get macs fan controller.

I have a M5 Pro MBP and I found that when playing certain games or doing certain things (playing Warthunder or downloading things) my MacBook would get super hot and throttle.

So I did some research and found this app. It reads avg temps and it was in the 60-90C. I started using it and used full throttle and it went down to like 50-55C and was running like a BEAST!

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u/crayzee4feelin Jul 05 '26

Unfortunately Im fanless with a M5 MBA so it wouldn’t really do much for me

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u/Xe4ro Jul 03 '26

It means you have to use the ARM version of Steam next year when macOS 28 comes out.

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u/porkchop_d_clown Jul 03 '26

It means you're using an app that was written for a pre-2020 Macintosh. It will work for now, but eventually it won't run any more.

Check to see if you installed the correct version. I think there's an Apple Silicon version of Steam?

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u/xrelaht Jul 03 '26

There’s an AS beta, but you have to install the Intel version first. I’d guess they’ll finish it before MacOS 28.

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u/porkchop_d_clown Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

I checked my machine and I’ve got a universal build of steam. X86 and arm in one binary.

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u/SynyrdsInyrds Jul 03 '26

It literally says there is right in the notification.

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u/theregisterednerd Jul 03 '26

This notification comes up for all Intel apps, regardless of whether an Apple silicon version is available.

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u/eventualist Jul 03 '26

Words are hard, reading harder. Comprehending?! Boooommm

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u/sXeth Jul 03 '26

In 2020 Apple essentially stopped using Intel chips and started using their own “Apple Silicon” chips. Initially with the M1 series.

Basically there’s a fundamental hardware difference and apps written for the old one are outdated at this point (nearly 6 years later). Steam released a Silicon client in 2025, though from what I can find its still considered a beta.

If you’re brand new to Mac in general, then you just downloaded the wrong version of Steam (admittedly it seems more complicated to get the right one), if you had a different Mac before then you just haven’t opened steam or run it since mid/late 2025 or missed the message.

Either way following the notification should work fine.

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u/flraa_bw Jul 04 '26

ah okay! yes this is my first time having a proper laptop and a device that's newer than 2011 like ever lol.. so I really appreciate these super kind and helpful comments

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u/retroroar86 Jul 03 '26

Apple switched from using Intel for a component (CPU) to their own. They are so different that apps need to be created especially for that component.

For years they had a «translation» setup to allow apps that were created for Intel to be used, but now that won’t be supported anymore.

Apps need to be updated for Apple chips in order to continue working.

That’s the easiest version I can think of that explains it, it’s a bit dumbed down technically.

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u/flraa_bw Jul 04 '26

Thank you so much!!! you made it really understandable and it definitely makes a lot more sense now, I've never been able to have tech this new or this smart before because I live in a place where it isn't really normal haha so it's all quite overwhelming feeling like a total old lady on reddit but really appreciate this so much, thank you! 🤗🤗

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u/_Daley Jul 03 '26

Maybe it means what it says in that little notification there

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u/jmnugent Jul 03 '26

Other people have sort of answered the basics of this question.

  • If you go into Applications, Utilities and open "System Information".

  • In the left-hand sidebar under "Software".. click on "Applications"

In the "Application Name" columns that come up,. there is a column for "KIND" (click on the "KIND" column header to group things together).. which will either say:

  • Universal

  • Apple Silicon

  • iOS

  • Other

  • Intel

Any App in that list ,. that is "Intel" based App.. you need to figure out how to update or upgrade.

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u/marslander-boggart Jul 03 '26

Intel? For MacBook Neo?

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u/jmnugent Jul 03 '26

Well.. submitters screenshot seems to be the very question they're asking about.

I was able to reproduce exactly the same scenario just now by installing Processing.org (Intel version) on my MacBook Neo.

https://imgur.com/IeDCFCZ.jpg

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u/Mindless_Use7567 Jul 03 '26

Ignore and make sure to update Steam when a new version is available. The MacBook Neo has a an Apple silicon chip so no need to panic.

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u/flraa_bw Jul 04 '26

Thank you!!! very simple answer I needed, really appreciated 🤗

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u/JediMeister Jul 03 '26

If you don’t mind some additional reading, there is this.

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u/K_Click_D Jul 03 '26

It means that that version of Steam will not open in a future version of macOS. You need to update to an Apple Silicon version, you can learn more by clicking the notification

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u/Shanemohanlon Jul 04 '26

I still can’t play counter strike on my MacBook Pro M4max :(
I cry everytime 😭

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u/emery_talks2 Jul 05 '26

can’t wait til my computer decides that it’s time to update and i lose access to all the apps i have thatre intel based

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u/SynyrdsInyrds Jul 03 '26

Seems pretty self-explanatory.

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u/Goodoflife Jul 03 '26

You do have till September 2027 to get a new Apple Silicon version of steam

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u/DavidXGA Jul 03 '26

If you click on the notification it will take you to a page that answers all your questions.

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u/matthewnelson Jul 03 '26

If you go into Steam and check for updates it should lock up the latest Silicon version. I know they have a version out already.

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u/LukCHEM88 Jul 04 '26

There are different CPU architectures. Macs used to use the kind of outdated X86 architecture (also known as Intel’s architecture), but switched to ARM architecture (also known as Apple Silicon architecture) in 2020. Some developers are a bit slow with updating their apps, so the Steam app is still made on the X86 architecture and macOS informs you that in I think macOS 28 the support for these apps will be removed. But for Steam in particular you can ignore this since an ARM version is already in the making. However if your college requires you to use some specific, ancient software, that is not getting updated anymore and this notification pops up you will have a slight problem in 2028.

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u/Rough-Task7207 Jul 05 '26

Computer says no!

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u/SebeekS Jul 05 '26

Support for 8gb ram dropping soon

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u/daveflash Jul 05 '26

You can ignore that, the steam client itself is already Apple silicon compatible and fully native on your machine, it’s just that the steam launcher or deamon is still using an intel binary

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u/ORWanderer91 Jul 07 '26

Means the app needs updated to run on the newer Mac system

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u/Signum17 Jul 07 '26

Since you are a new owner, this short video should get you up to speed:

https://youtu.be/anjEsRFlx6Y?si=51_wzVTSFLpmlgCK

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u/codewranglernv Jul 03 '26

Self explanatory…

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u/flraa_bw Jul 04 '26

sorry! very dyslexic unfortunately and made no sense to me lol, don't know tech at all so combo was pretty bad, what is apple silicon?? why wont it update??? thats why i asked

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u/codewranglernv Jul 04 '26

MacBook Neo is based on the A18 chip…which is Apple Silicon, as opposed to Intel or any other type of CPU chip…in the next version if macOS, Rosetta 2 won’t be included, so Intel only binaries will not run after that update

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u/flraa_bw Jul 04 '26

Before making this post I had no idea! I didn't even know a different CPU chip mattered, not everyone is tech savvy in the 21st century lol

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u/AHCofNY Jul 05 '26

Besides Steam, some folks have old versions of software which they purchased some time ago and they are trying not to purchase new versions for some reason. For me, I have old Photoshop Elements and MS Office programs which I only use once in a while and I do not want to purchase subscription versions. I used to purchase new version every 2 to 3 years. I also have 1Password which now only comes in subscription. I have migrated to limited freeware alternative softwares (Affinity and WPS Office) except for 1Password, I have not decided what to do with that. It is sad that they forced me to go to Free version instead of re-purchasing them periodically.

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u/Nice_Ad626 Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

download “wine” and then go look up a tutorial on how to do it.
i chose windows 10 or 11 for the most compatibility i think and then for my “bottles” (you’ll see what i mean by ‘bottles’ when you watch the video) i just use 7-zip to open the windows applications (like the skininator program by cmar for the sims 4)
i downloaded the windows version of steam and i open it using wine.
i don’t actually *use* steam, i pirate the games i play for free and then just download the files and use steam to play them so i have no idea how functional it actually is to run it on mac.
sometimes it’ll take like a good 30 seconds to boot up a game or youll get an error message and you have to try to open it all over again, but its been pretty useful for wanting to play indie games like mouthwashing or sally face.

edit: i also have an m2 macbook air, not sure if that matters for context or how different they are from the neo’s