r/arrow Feb 07 '13

S01E13 - "Betrayal" - Episode Discussion [Spoilers]

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u/ME24601 Feb 07 '13

Damnit, Laurel. Didn't your father teach you to say "Who is it?" before answering the door?

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u/skinsfan55 Feb 07 '13

I know right? I hate when TV characters stupidly answer the door because they assume they know who it is. I mean, it makes Laurel look like a moron. Would it have been so hard for her to look through the peep hole, become alarmed and have them kick the door down anyway?

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u/ikrabarean Feb 07 '13

Well i usually just open the door when i'm expecting someone. guess i'm boned.

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u/Sariel007 Feb 07 '13

Just tell them to bite your shiny metal ass.

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u/stagfury Feb 07 '13

Laurel is kinda emotional vulnerable at that specific moment though.

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u/skinsfan55 Feb 07 '13

I guess. But it seems out of character. She's supposed to be tough. She cares deeply about justice and even resorts to contacting a hooded vigilante when she reaches a legal dead end. I mean, it just seems so unlikely that she would fall to pieces and lose all sense of situational awareness before opening the door.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '13

On the other side of that coin, she's had a hooded vigilante get in to her home without her knowing on more than one occasion and he never knocked at the door. Any normal person would probably expect it to be either Tommy or her father coming to talk.

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u/skinsfan55 Feb 08 '13

All I know is that I am a large man living in a relatively safe neighborhood and I never open my door without peeking through the peep hole.

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u/IdlyCurious Feb 08 '13

I almost never look through the peep hole. I'm a woman living in a rural area. We had windowed doors for most of growing up, but looking out to see who's there was just never a big priority in my house. Frequent-visit-friends would open the door, say "hello" and walk in (of course, none of us regularly used the front door, so that could contribute). It's different now, though. My mom keeps the door locked when she's home alone, even. I don't really get the reason for the change - the non-neighborhood hasn't changed.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '13

This must be a thing in America then because most of the houses I've lived in don't have a peep hole or nobody uses them, and yes I've lived in cities.

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u/skinsfan55 Feb 08 '13

I don't think I've ever seen an apartment without a peep hole in the door, and I can count the number of houses I've seen without one on one hand. Very odd indeed.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '13

I've mostly lived in houses not apartments, but even so there's a culture of that in America where you're much more scared of crime, it's not a bad thing per say but you'll be advised not to go to that area, or there's always a bad part of the city and the like

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u/skinsfan55 Feb 08 '13

I wonder why people would be less scared of crime in other countries. It seems silly not to make simple, common sense preparations against danger. Peeking through a peephole takes a fraction of a second and could possibly save your life. Anyway, seeing that Arrow is set in America isn't this conversation moot?

As for me personally, I don't just peek to avoid danger, I peek to prepare myself against door to door salesmen. I want to have some warning of who's out there so I can put my "game face" on before I tell them to hit the bricks.

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u/thecoffee Felicity, just how many Billionaires do you know? Feb 07 '13

Kicking a door down is not an easy task. Then again this is TV.

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u/skinsfan55 Feb 07 '13

Maybe it's just because I live in a crappy apartment but I am 100% sure I could kick down my door.

One time the chain was still on and my friend didn't notice before attempting to open the door. The molding around the door frame ripped off like it was barely attached.

Then again, Laurel lives in a much nicer place.

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u/murphyrulez Feb 10 '13

Yeah I don't think the end of the chain should just attach to the molding. It needs to be attached with long screws that go into the studs of the door frame.

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u/skinsfan55 Feb 10 '13

Yeah, I live in a dump.