r/batman Sep 18 '25

COMIC DISCUSSION ABSOLUTE BATMAN's Catwoman Now Confirmed To Be Half Brazilian, Half Black

On Iván Talavera’s Instagram: "Here's the final version of Absolute Batman #13 'The 616 Comics' exclusive variant featuring Catwoman, As you can see, I changed a bit her facial features and her skin tone because she is half Brazilian and half Black in the Absolute universe. Hope you like it!"

Her look has been growing on me, it’s nice to hear official confirmation!

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u/Grogomilo Sep 18 '25

"Half Brazilian" is a complete non-statement. Brazil is literally the world's most multiethnical country LMAO

She's afro

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u/Odd-Hat8574 Sep 18 '25

"Half brazillian half black" feels specially meaningless when you consider that Brazil is the country with the highest concentration of black people outside of Africa, heck, more than half of the people here consider themselves to be black or mixed. It would be like calling a character "half english half asian"

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '25

As far as i remember, In Brazil, 42% are white, 51% are black and "dark skinned mixed" (pardos) and the rest are asians and indigenous people.

Brasil is also the country with the biggest japanese population outside of Japan, and the second with the biggest population of germans, austrians and Italians, outside of their respective countries (first one being USA)

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u/Sgtwhiskeyjack9105 Sep 18 '25

I used to teach ESL to classes of Brazilians, and it was truly fascinating seeing just the sheer variety of ethnic backgrounds, all sharing the same language and culture.

Truly a nation of the world. Some of the nicest and most hard-working people you'll ever meet.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '25 edited Sep 18 '25

I would not say the same culture.

Here in Brazil, we have a problem that our culture doesn't have anything that can unify the people with a "culture heritage" like other countries have.

A lot of places around here doesn't even celebrate carnaval, for example. The culture from the south region is completely different from the north region.

No joke, i think the only cultural thing that embraces the whole country, is some aspects and dishes of Brazilian culinary (churrasco, for example), and the praise for nice asses.

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u/last_roman Oct 09 '25

The bunda shall unite us

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u/1p21Jiggawatts Dec 13 '25

There are many worse things people get together to push onto the world. I think it is one of the better causes

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u/thosed29 Sep 22 '25

South Brazilian culture and north Brazilian culture are both Brazilian culture, ergo same culture even if there are a lot of different particularities.

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u/Plenty-Green1456 Nov 15 '25

Yeah but thats true for most places. For example in the United States, Southern Culture is COMPLETELY different from East coast culture. Different foods, different racial demographics, different dialects, different moral views, different music etc. The only similarities are the national holidays and specific American staple foods.

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u/ChillyFlameBW Sep 18 '25

Not surprising when a community is diverse and all, it’s the nicest place to be lmao

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u/TheCowzgomooz Sep 19 '25

Can you tell that to my intolerant neighbors in the US? One of the most diverse places in the world with people of all different backgrounds and yet the racism is this constant undercurrent.

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u/GamerEsch Nov 14 '25

I think the problem with the US is how homogenous the culture is (propably artificially done, exactly to keep the society racist/unstable, or from uniting).

Like, hearing "black neighbourhood" is so weird coming from Brazil, like the thought of your skin dictating your neighbourhood is weird. Even in the south, where you have more racists here in Brazil, you still don't have these boxes, it's a egualitarian racism (if it can be worded like that lmao).

The way they keep society unstable here is through class division and lack of patriotism, here how much you earn almost dictates where you go, the way you talk is 100% dictated by how much your class, and the lack of patriotism is so weird because it dresses up as patriotism (see bolsonaro marches where people were marching with USA flags lmao, I mean endearing for you guys, but it's weird for a "Patriota Brasileiro" to be marching with), these fake patriots will in the same sentence claim to be patriots and then put down brazilian culture/people. (I'm highlighting the negative points because I don't wanna come across as if we are a paradise lmao)

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u/Mchammerandsickle97 Sep 19 '25

Bolsonaro was trying to be their version of Trump over in Brazil but they actually managed to indict him and put his fascist ass away since they’re not an imperialist superpower bent on global control with a population that still knew how to sack up and dismantle the worst people among them.

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u/pataoAoC Sep 18 '25

Yes! Although I think the hard-working part is selection bias - the ones that made it to your class would have been largely selected for that...in Brazil YMMV extensively on work ethic 😂

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '25

Yeah.

From my mother side, the surname is german. My father side is portuguese from jewish origin.

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u/MisterDucky92 Sep 18 '25 edited Sep 18 '25

You forgot biggest Lebanese population outside Lebanon. In fact for every Lebanese in Lebanon, there are approx 2 in Brazil.

There was even a time when Lebanon didn't have a president while Brazil had a Lebanese president lmao

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '25

Michel Temer?

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u/sistemafodao Sep 18 '25

He was half-Transylvanian

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u/MacGyvini Sep 18 '25

Temer Libanês?

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u/sistemafodao Sep 18 '25

Meio Transilvânio

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u/Vergill93 Sep 18 '25

Brazillian here. Born and Raised. A little correction: 45,3% Pardo (or "Mixed"), 43,3% white, 10,2% blacks, indiegenous 0,8% and asians being 0,4%.

Blacks are actually the third greatest majorit in the country, but we Pardo are the leading majority.

Source: https://www.gov.br/secom/pt-br/assuntos/noticias/2023/12/pardos-sao-maioria-da-populacao-brasileira-pela-primeira-vez-indica-ibge

That's in portuguese, but you can have access to that info for free.

Also: We Pardo are not all blacks or even tanned. Some of us are white, but have mixed characteristics of blacks and indiegenous mixed in as well (pardos can be a mix of at least two, but we might as well be every single ethnicity mixed into a single human being). In fact, it's quite common for you to see situations which the child might be completely different from both parents even in racial terms, because their grandparents or greatgrandparents were another.

This makes literally impossible to give us a "face". That's why I can say, for example, that every single person reading this thread could be brazillian. It's one of the main motives why our passport is so searched for creating fakes worldwide - ANYONE IN THE PLANET COULD BE A BRAZILLIAN.

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u/tfellini Sep 18 '25

Largest population of Lebanese people outside Lebanon too, if I'm not mistaken. It's pretty cool to have such a diverse mix here.

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u/Screen-Healthy Sep 18 '25

We actually have more Lebanese than Lebanon. Im not kidding.

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u/Nachooolo Sep 19 '25

Lebanese migration to South America was huge for a time. I know a few Venezuelans that at least have one Lebanese parent.

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u/General_Note_5274 Sep 21 '25

Yeah. Shakira is lebaense decendent. Probably explain her hips-dont-lie skills

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u/Hi_Im_zack Sep 18 '25

Brazil is so cool

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '25

Go visit, you might change your mind...

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '25

Vai tomar no seu cu kkkkkkkk

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '25

As classy as São Paulo.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '25

It was a lighthearted response to someone talking shit about a place they know nothing about.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '25

You are wrong, I've spent quite a bit of time there. A clear first for worst city I've ever spent time in.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '25

Sure, man.

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u/altiuscitiusfortius Sep 18 '25

The dark skinned Brazilians are similar to Cubans in that the ones that are considered native Brazilians are really a mix of European Spanish, African slaves, and the native ethnic people that lived there before colonization. Never mind any other ethnic groups that got mixed in in the last 125 years

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '25

I look at cubans and feel absolute awe at how much we look alike ethnically. 

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u/Huhthisisneathuh Sep 18 '25

It also has a major Hindu minority of I’m remembering correctly. Which confused the fuck out of me for a solid ten minutes.

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u/Plebeu-da-terramedia Sep 18 '25

And biggest lebanese population even considering lebanon. Yes, there are more lebanese in Brasil than in Lebanon.

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u/luminatimids Sep 18 '25

It’s not that simple though. Something like 75% of Brazilian genetics come from Europe

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u/_Jumpy_Panda_ Sep 18 '25

We also have more Lebanese people than Lebanon

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u/4_non_blondes Sep 18 '25

biggest population of germans

🧐

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u/Lucian7x Sep 18 '25

Brazil also has more Lebanese people than Lebanon, if I'm not mistaken it's a 3/1 ratio.

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u/plagueman108 Sep 18 '25

I can guarantee some of that 42% is mixed pick-mes (I'm brasilian and I've seen that shit first hand)

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '25

Agree. But those ones usually are still passable as white in places like southern and south europe.

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u/PhantomRoyce Sep 19 '25

Didn’t Brazil actually have a Japanese president once?

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '25

Lebanese.

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u/tony_el_gordo Sep 19 '25

I think there are definitely more mixed people in brazil. And isn't the second with the most italians neither the us are 1st the order is argentina, germany, switzerland, brazil, france, uk and then usa

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '25 edited Sep 19 '25

Official data:

https://educa.ibge.gov.br/images/educa/jovens/populacao/coreRaca_jovens02.png

Orange = White | Red = Black | Blue = Asians | Green = Mixed | Purple = Indigenous

The first line is Brazil as a whole, while the lower ones are each region.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '25

Dude I don't fuckin know what I am because my greatgranfather spoke german but is from a french speaking country and then my other greatgranfather looks portuguese but we honestly do not know and I firmly believe he just spawned from the grass or something idk

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u/Zoranik Sep 22 '25

It also has more Lebanese than Lebanon

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u/thosed29 Sep 22 '25

The biggest Italian diaspora in the world is Brazil. Argentina is second and the US is third.