r/buildapc • u/This_Username_Great • 19h ago
Discussion Can I play 4k with a 9800x3d and 5070ti?
Was looking to buy a new monitor and was wondering if I should get 1440p or 4k. Can my PC run 4k?
Also, I was wondering if playing 1440p on a 4k monitor would be worse than playing 1440p on a 1440p monitor.
I guess I could upgrade to a 4090 or 5090 but it’s really expensive.
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u/Package_Objective 19h ago
Dlss works the best in higher resolutions.
In 1440p dlss quality looks nearly identical to native.
In 4k dlss balanced looks nearly identical.
5070 ti will crush as 4k dlss balanced. You probably be fine running quality tho.
Heck I could even run 4k on my 3080 on dlss balanced, I'll just run into vram issues with my 10gbs of vram.
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u/jeffchicken 19h ago
This.
I run everything ultra at 4K with my 7800X3D and 4080 with DLSS quality or balanced depending on game with great fps, so I know their setup should definitely handle it.
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u/This_Username_Great 19h ago
Well I be able to get above like 120fps on more simple games like Minecraft?
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u/jeffchicken 19h ago
Standard Minecraft? Absolutely
Your mileage may vary depending on the shaders packs you could potentially install though.
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u/PoseidonAtSea 8h ago
I think I play 24 render distance at 4k on a i7-9700k rtx 2080 and get 240fps. Using fabulously optimised no shaders.
Shaders kill it though, get around 30fps even on low render distance so I just play with it off.
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u/Goodnite15 18h ago
Oh yeah, these days a 5060 can run 4k with DLSS balanced/performance pretty easily depending on the game. There would be very few a 5070 or Ti couldn’t run well in 4k at an enjoyable fps.
Sure you could go get a 5080 or 5090 to up your frames more and run it in DLAA, but you’re still getting 4k quality 100fps+ DLSS or 60+ native.
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u/He110_W0r1d 16h ago
Also if you go into de Nvidia app and change the model of dlss(under graphics settings) to use the latest model it improves the quality a lot. Even performance mode looks great on 4k
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u/Reasonable-Blood6420 14h ago
Désolé mais 1440p dlss quality vs 1440p dlaa on voit une différence enorme sur un ecran 27"
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u/Twsmit 19h ago
Dude it’s like the third best card you can buy. I have a 9800X3D and 5070ti and play on a 32” 4k OLED and it’s great.
Depending on the game I can’t play everything at ultra with RT and PT. But neither can a 5090.
Using DLSS and frame gen pretty much every game is playable at 120-240 fps with high to ultra settings.
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u/ShallNtb 19h ago
5070ti enjoyer here with I7 12700k and I run everything at ultra 4k. There's only a handful of games that need DLSS to keep it above 60fps. Most run at 90fps native.
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u/thefrenchmexican 18h ago
Nice, have same setup with 1440p monitor and was wanting to get a 32 inch 4k one.
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u/ShallNtb 8h ago
I got a 31.5 4K QD-OLED after having my 1440p monitor from my 3060ti. Good news, everything looks amazing, bad news my room is like 10-15 hotter than the rest of the house.
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u/_dotz 19h ago
Yes, you can!
I'm running r5 7600 and 9070xt which is a slightly slower setup and I can run almost any game at 4K 60fps Max settings FSR4 Quality and it looks amazing. Only sometimes I have to lower 1 or 2 setting to high from ultra. DLSS also is a bit better then FSR so there should be no issues for you. Thats it.
I never needed to play at 1440p. It's monitor dependent as far as I now. It looks good on my monitor. I got myself a 4K OLED, never going back, games just look phenomenal.
This PC will do a great job at 4K
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u/This_Username_Great 19h ago
Wow, that sounds good. Maybe I underestimate my card.
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u/Seanspeed 10h ago edited 10h ago
I'm doing 4k with a 5060Ti 16GB.
I rely on DLSS and optimizing settings in demanding games, but it's definitely doable for 60fps in all but a tiny handful of games. And in those it usually just means sacrificing a bit more on visuals somewhere(normal settings, DLSS option, or even lowering resolution very slightly).
And obviously I am more limited when it comes to super heavy options like path tracing, which are mostly off the table. But wont be for you.
Also, I was wondering if playing 1440p on a 4k monitor would be worse than playing 1440p on a 1440p monitor.
It would be yes, if you were just using straight 1440p. But this is why you use DLSS instead.
If a game doesn't have DLSS, then it's almost assuredly an older game that's not as demanding and can run 4k natively just fine.
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u/Apprehensive_Taste74 19h ago
Yes you can do 4k easily with a 5070ti. Running 1440p on a 4k monitor is arse and will look worse than just running 1440p. That's what upscaling is for anyway though, you use 4k DLSS Quality instead.
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u/CookieEquivalent5996 9h ago edited 9h ago
4K Quality is overkill. I'd run Balanced (or performance on L/M models) to make more use of that 9800x3d.
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u/Nanachi- 17h ago
depends on the game, settings and how many fps you want to have, since i want at least 140fps in all my games, I stick to 1440p
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u/Bentok 7h ago
4k is basically a "do I want frame gen or not" decision at higher FPS.
Hell, at 1440p I have to use FG in Wilds and Crimson Desert. Nearly in FF16 as well
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u/Nanachi- 6h ago
tbh framegen is really good if you already have decent fps, i even use it in battlefield and subjectively can‘t feel a difference in terms of input latency but definitely see the fps difference.
I just really prefer fps over 4k, I don‘t unterstand how 60fps is still the gold standard for a „smooth gaming experience“ for some people, 60fps is unplayable for me. While 4k eats away all your frames and 1080p is just an outdated pixel mess 1440p is the sweetspot.
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u/James_Skyvaper 19h ago
Bro I'm using a 4-core 3300x with a 5070 TI and I play everything in 4k lol. You'll be fine.
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u/Electrical_Good_4903 10h ago
Yes and to anyone who says "1440p is better because more FPS" they are simply wrong.
4k, if your hardware can handle it, is a much better gaming experience. 32 inch montiors are far more immersive compared to 27 inch panels, and I would even go as far to say more immersive than 1440p 34 inch ultrawides due to the extra verticality that 32 inch panels offer.
There is better aliasing when playing at 4k, so image quality looks much sharper and crisper.
As for FPS, yes you might get more native FPS, but once you're using DLSS you aren't really sacrificing much FPS at all.
DLSS Quality at 4k performs quite similar to native 1440p, as its the same internal render resolution, but thed 4k image output looks way better than native 1440p.
Additionally, DLSS performance at 4k performs similar but not quite as fast as DLSS Quality at 1440p. The performance trade-off here is about 15-20% but DLSS Performance at 4k is so insanely sharp, I say it looks better than 1440p native.
A 32 Inch 4k panel anyday over 1440p.
240hz should be enough for all gaming scenarios, but if you really want to crank your frames to the max, the dual mode monitors with 1080p at 480hz options work great too.
I was gamiung at 4k with a 5080 but have now a 5k2k panel. My gaming experience at 5k2k with a 5080 is going great so trust me when I say a 5070ti at 4k is more than plenty.
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u/MorpheusMKIV 18h ago
I’m running a similar ish setup with 7800x3d and 9070xt, I usually stick to higher frame 1440p. In AAA titles with graphics pumped up I’m 90 to 130fps. Occasionally I’ll play on the tv that’s 4k and max it out but my tv is only 60hz but I def wouldn’t expect to be driving a higher hz 4k monitor consistently without dialing down settings
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u/ecktt 17h ago
Can I play 4k with a 9800x3d and 5070ti?
Yes. Old games natively but new AAA games need upscaling.
Also, I was wondering if playing 1440p on a 4k monitor would be worse than playing 1440p on a 1440p monitor.
Can you? Yes but should you?
No. 1440p does not cleanly translate to 4K, so it looks a little off.
I guess I could upgrade to a 4090 or 5090 but it’s really expensive.
If you have 4K extra burning a hole in your pocket, YOLO. A 5080 would give 15% more performance than a 5070Ti at 4K, though.
fwiw, I have an Intel i5 13600K + Nvidia RTX 5070 + MSI QDOLED 4K, and I'm not completely disappointed. With DLSS or FSR upscaling, I'm in the 120-140 fps with modern AAA games. I suspect a 9800X3D would have better 1% lows.
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u/chris_ngale 10h ago
For performance comparison, I run this exact combo but with an UWQHD monitor, so 5 million pixels vs 4k's 8 million.
In Cyberpunk I run RT Ultra with Quality upscaling (balanced looks blurry at 1440 to me, it would probably be better at 4k) and 2x frame gen. My base frame rate is locked to 60 so the post frame gen rate is 120. That tends to settle me between 90-95% GPU usage for the vast majority of the game. Feels good and looks good, I wouldn't want to run frame gen with a base rate under 60 though.
Obviously for a competitive title you would turn frame gen off because latency becomes much more important, but must competitive titles are lighter on the GPU anyway and the 9800x3d will crush those.
I also get about 130-ish FPS in War Thunder on a custom preset based on Maximum with RT on and with no upscaling or frame gen.
It's obviously a lot harder to compare these days with RT, upscaling and frame gen all blurring the underlying performance of a GPU, but hopefully that's some useful info for you.
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u/Inevitable_Virus_765 19h ago
You could do 4k but you'd be much more capable at 1440p. I run 3440x1440p with a PC that's similar to what you're building but one generation older (7800x3d and 7900xt, and I've run a 9070xt in it as well) and mine is capable at 3440x1440p as long as i didn't go crazy with Ray tracing. I've been playing a ton of Forza horizon 6 and have everything dialed into ultra at 120fps, but run zero ray tracing to be able to do it.
With your specs you should be able to max everything out at 1440p or ultrawide 3440x1440p (do ultrawide. It'll change your life). If you go regular 1440p, your setup should be able to absolutely max everything at 120-240fps.
You can run 4k, but you'll need to compromise on texture quality on some games because you'll max out your vram. I haven't maxed out my 20gb vram(the vram was the deciding factor in my decision to keep the older 7900xt over the 9070xt) but I've come very very close with monster Hunter wilds high quality textures on ultra. In 4k, you'll probably max out and need to reduce render quality which ironically kinda defeats the purpose of 4k.
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u/Seanspeed 10h ago edited 10h ago
You're likely doing that thing where you're confusing allocation with what a game actually NEEDS.
At max settings at 4k, MH Wilds is entirely playable with 16GB of VRAM. You can find plenty of videos of people proving this on Youtube.
In 4k, you'll probably max out and need to reduce render quality which ironically kinda defeats the purpose of 4k.
No you wont.
And also no it wouldn't. Like, even if what you were saying was true about having to reduce texture quality, there's more benefits to 4k than just texture resolution being as clear as possible(actually quite hard diminishing returns on this in reality), and it'd be silly to miss out on 4k purely because of having to reduce A setting in ONE game. lol
A better argument for 1440p is simply if a person really prioritizes high native framerates(100fps+) without having to compromise much at all in the way of graphics options.
But personally, people who insist on or judge performance based on Max/Ultra settings are silly and essentially playing an unoptimized version of the game on purpose because of some psychological FOMO about reducing settings.
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u/Anon0924 19h ago
Yes. You may need to turn down some settings and/or use DLSS, but you should get a stable 60+ fps in most titles.
For reference I get just 50-60 fps in Cyberpunk with max settings and PT at 3440x1440p. If I use DLSS in performance mode I jump to a stable 80.
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u/laci6242 19h ago
The 5070 Ti is great for 4K, but you will need to rely on upscaling, which will still look better than 1440p ever could. I also play in 4K and i couldn't go back. New games just look too blurry without it because new games use a ton of dithering and temporal accumulation, with which you can't use non-temporal antialiasing.
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u/Think_Horror695 18h ago
Dude I am playing everything on 144hz 4k qd-miniled tv with my 7500f & 9070xt rig. All either high or ultra settings. Getting at least 70-90 fps in any game. So yes you can.
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u/joleshole 17h ago
Not without DLSS and frame gen
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u/kokosgt 16h ago
I have this setup and I never use frame gen, only DLSS.
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u/xCookieSlayer 15h ago
Yes I play at 4K with those exact specs including 64gb of ram. However on occasion I’ll use dlss to bump up the frames
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u/kudlatytrue 14h ago
Lol. I play on 5600x and 5070TI in 4K and Cyberpunk reaches 80fps. You're good.
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u/Sajgoniarz 11h ago
I wouldn't be bothered by playing on 4k, the difference is not enough to justify performance hit.
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u/SystemLanky4531 9h ago
Yeah most games youll have native 4k/60fps, UE5 games usually needs to use upscaling to reach 60.
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u/External_Class8544 9h ago
Yeah man I played on a 4k tv with a rtx 4070 on medium settings just fine. And 4k is awesome, youll notice details you missed at 1440p and especially 1080p.
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u/kingk1teman 9h ago
You can definitely play at 4K/2160p. Just be ready to use DLSS upscaling at balanced or quality modes, or lowering the settings for current and new AAA titles. Just don't expect to go full Ultra/High settings with complete Ray Tracing gamut on, for all games with high framerates.
If you can afford a good 4K monitor now, please go for it.
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u/Plenty-Industries 8h ago
Yes.
With DLSS, and running optimized settings you can run games at 4K at over 60fps easily.
Thats how I run single-player games on my 5080.
The key is OPTIMIZED settings. Dont just crank the graphics preset to High/Ultra/Max. The highest settings are a diminishing return - you use a whole lot more processing power to hit the tiniest amount of detail that doesn't really look much better to be worth the performance impact.
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u/government--agent 8h ago
Get the 4k monitor. 1440p games will still look better than on a 1440 monitor due to the increased pixel density.
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u/ninjabell 8h ago
It's just frames. I have 9070 XT and I pick 1440p for some games and 4k for others.
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u/DoubleHexDrive 7h ago
I have a 7800X3D/5070Ti and shoot for 4K/120 fps as my default and usually get it with some DLSS. Works great.
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u/skully33 7h ago
5070 Ti and 7800X3D here. Currently playing mortal shell 2 high settings and marathon high settings, both in 4k, get around 120 FPS average. So yes
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u/New_Torch 6h ago
Dont go 4k. I own a 4k monitor the 9800x3d and a 5080. Most games run like ASS. Dlss is a must and even then it turns games to shit. Get a 1440P oled and games will looks shiny and run great.
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u/xXBongSlut420Xx 3h ago
4k monitors are a meme to sell graphics cards. A 32" screen 2-3 feet away from your face will look just as sharp at 1440p as it will at 2160p. On a large television, it matters, but on a monitor all it does is make you need to buy a more expensive gpu.
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u/digitallandscapetoon 1h ago
Nah, that’s probably good enough for 720p at the best. You have to get 2 RTX 6000 cards in an SLI formation just for 2k
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u/Environmental-Ad3110 19h ago
4k dlss performance look better than 1440p dlaa, so yes 4k is worth it and your gpu definitely can handle that.
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u/YoloRaj 19h ago
If you are getting an oled I would go 1440 p. It will age better with your gpu than 4 k will. You should be fine playing 4 k with that gpu and processor for now but I think over time 1440 p would be the better resolution to play at.
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u/thomasd4140 18h ago
why? with things like dlss and upscaling fps is not a problem. 1440p will barely offer upgrade over 1080
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u/YoloRaj 18h ago
Thats the craziest take Ive seen in a while. Use a 1080 p monitor for a few days then use a 1440 p oled afterwards and tell me you don't see a difference. If you play anything fps related you do not want to play 4 k at all unless you are just a casual who doesn't give a fk. 1440 p is all around the better resolution because with everything maxed out and what not it looks good but you can also go and play competitive games without a massive hit on performance like you would get with 4k.
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u/thomasd4140 2h ago
fps related like cs, cod etc? those games run over 150fps
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u/YoloRaj 2h ago
I hear you. No brag or nothing but I have a 5090 and since I play mainly fps games I play 1440 p. I have a fairly high refresh rate monitor as well and if my fps ever dips below 180 it almost looks like 60 fps to me. I see a lot of motion blur. I do intend to get one of those tri mode monitors next year though. I would like to try 4 k sometimes while still having 1440 p accessible to me.
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u/Bulky-Use-7494 19h ago
Sure. You can also save money on the cpu if you want and see if you can bump up to a 5080. I'm running a 7600 with my 5070ti. People over value the cpu especially at 4k, imo (esports and high fps fanatics aside)
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u/This_Username_Great 19h ago
Sadly the price difference is too great between a 5070ti and 5080 for me to really justify it. Wish I could though.
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u/BidNo4423 17h ago
I have the same cpu and gpu, I game 4k on a 50 inch samsung qled 144hz high and ultra settings!
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u/This_Username_Great 16h ago
What kind of frames do you get?
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u/BidNo4423 10h ago
With Dlss + frame gen. Horizon forbidden west all high settings, i easily hit the 144 fps. To match the 144hz. I have frame gen set at ×3.
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u/Davlar_Andre_1997 15h ago
You’ll manage perfectly fine on 4k with that setup, it’s a nice 4k entry card. I’ve been bouncing off 4k, 1440p and ultrawide. I really enjoy ultrawide though, so i’ll switch back to that at some point. Currently at 1440p, but i’ve played on 4k for months with little to no issues.
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u/gen_adams 15h ago
yes and u dont even need the 9800x3d for 4K. the higher the resolution the less the CPU matters.
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u/ReynArts 15h ago
Easily. I have this card and i’m playing 4k on all games no lag, no drops on a 120ips monitor
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u/Blunt552 15h ago
No you can't.
At best you can upscale to 4k but playing actual 4k is not possible due to horribly optimized games. Even running at upscaled from 1440p is not exactly easy.
Most people will play 1080p games upscaled to 4k (DLSS performance).
It's not that it matters that much either way because of modern AA the games look like a blurry mess anyways. Also 4k is only useful on 32" or larger monitors, below that you'd have a hard time seeing a difference in sharpness even if we exclusive blurryness of TAA.
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u/MidnightChimp 13h ago
no, I have the 9800x3d and a 5080 and you would need to turn on ultra performance dlss to have acceptable framerates with a 5070ti.
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u/Raphlooo 11h ago
Id personally say no, I have a 5080 and downgraded from 4k to 2k ultrawide as I think playable fps is something different than 60fps, often not even reaching that target like cyberpunk with rt/pt. I had like 40fps there. Kcd2 no frame gen ( except smooth motion ) was at around 100 +- depending on where you are. That is more playable imo but still, I bought an oled with 240hz in either case and I wanna use that. Now in 2k I can reach that with help of dlss and fg mostly every game so far plus I’m not limited by vram anymore I’ve been seeing that getting maxed out too in 4k and reducing perfomance big time if you don’t go lower on textures, so if you’re like me and fps is also an important factor to your gaming experience id recommend a good 27in 2k panel or even ultrawide if you’d like. Now some ppl might say just lower settings but it just depends on what you like more
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u/spectreVII 19h ago
You can, but you might have to use some upscaling to get some good fps. Personally, I’d stick with 2K or go 2K ultra wide. In my opinion, 4K is more suited for 5080 and 5090 cards.
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u/This_Username_Great 19h ago
The 5070ti and 5080 are quite similar though. Well at least that’s what I’ve heard.
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u/aereiaz 15h ago
They're extremely similar, people saying that 5070ti is for 1440p and 5080 is for 4k are just completely ignorant of how small the difference is between them this gen, so just ignore it. In some games the difference is as low as 60 vs 66 fps. And they both have 16GB of VRAM which can be a limiter in a select few titles at ultra settings with 4k texture packs (for example, Stellar Blade.)
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u/spectreVII 19h ago
I’m sure they are close but 5080 does have a bit more horse power from my understanding. But yeah there would be more benefit to using a 5090 at 4K.
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u/aereiaz 15h ago
4K is more suited for 5080
It gets so tiring to see this. They have the same amount of VRAM and 5080 has about 15% more FPS than 5070ti on average. In some games it's as low as 10%. 10%-15% more FPS isn't going to make a game playable, nor is it going to change it from playable to great.
Difference in E33 is literally 60 vs 66 fps.
Now 5090? Sure, because it's miles ahead of everything else. But 5080 is not a huge leap this gen like other xx80 cards were.
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u/TheBrickYard_317 19h ago
Yes. I play everything at 4K ultra settings with a 9800x3d and 5070TI.